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Saggy Loose Lower Eyelids from Juvederm then Hyaluronidase
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I had too much Juvederm injected into the wrong...
$500
I had too much Juvederm injected into the wrong place. It led to chronic bags, poor contour and a very tired, old look.
A few years ago I had Restylane in the same place with no issues. It looked great and lasted a long time.
Hyaluronidase was recommend to dissolve the Juvederm overfill after waiting several months for the filler to go away on its own (note: it hangs around for up to several years in this area). I had 6 rounds of Hyaluronidase over several months. During that time I witnessed my skin degrade right before my eyes. This was worsened by having my lower lids stretched by too much poorly placed Juvederm for nearly 10 months. The Hyaluronidase immediately made my skin crepey, saggy, loose, with a purple pigmentation line in my tear trough. You literally wake up the next day looking like Charlie Sheen!
It appeared to dissolve my native hyaluronic acid - my plastic surgeon at the time acknowledged he could see the skin losing its elasticity and becoming really thin/wrinkled, so it was recommended I get botox, then look at doing a chemical peel, laser or start using Retin A after treatment with Hyaluronidase was complete. I agreed to the botox, but that did nothing to help with skin quality or the folds/wrinkles below the eye.
For the record, I always used Retin A on my eyelids before all this. My skin was in good condition before Hyaluronidase.
Now I am facing laser or a chemical peel to help address the state of my skin. I plan on travelling to have this sort of treatment done by a top revision eyelid surgeon. It's going to cost a fortune.
Always be careful with any fillers. Even if they can be dissolved, there can be bad results. Many of us on this forum have ended up with terrible complications from Hyaluronidase. Not only has it ruined my eyelids cosmetically, but it also dried out my eyes and left them with a constant tired feel.
It's important to realize that poor results with ANY cosmetic intervention can lead to unexpected expenses, depression, trauma and a prolonged recovery. My life has been a nightmare for the last 12 months. I used to have confidence, but I've become a hermit that hates to go out and no longer likes talking to people. I am sad that I look older than my well-preserved 40 year old sister (I just turned 30). I am sick of being told I look tired, worn out and unwell (I'm super healthy). I am scared that this damage is permanent. I was so much more attractive before. I even want to quit my career because I no longer enjoy interacting with people. It has destroyed my life as I knew it. I now have counselling to assist with the depressed feeling and anxiety caused by this situation.
Do your research. Make sure you are getting the most conservative approach with the best filler for that area. Be careful about having hyaluronidase around the eyes. If you can live with your results, then don't risk it. Dissolving it isn't as simple as it sounds!
UPDATED FROM Raleigh4718
I forgot to say please ignore the marks on my nose...
I forgot to say please ignore the marks on my nose in the "NOW" pics. It was from pure tea tree oil on a zit that burnt my skin!
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November 15, 2014
I had juvederm in my lips. she put way too much and I had the look of a duck. I went back for hyuluronidase a few month later. i was so pleased at first. but after a month or so, I began to notice indentations on my top lip. the hyaluronidase took out some of my natural. I am going to ask a board certified plastic surgeon about fat grafting next month.
November 16, 2014
jwil..., I advise getting more than one consult if possible. It's recommended to get at least 3 unless there is one stand alone doctor who is especially renowned about treating your particular issue (indentations on top lip from filler). They could be PS, dermatologists or oculoplastic doctors. If any doctors are in the USA, I would make sure the doctor also has a 5star rating on healthgrades.com
November 16, 2014
Thanks for your reply. I actually have had four so far. I've been told to leave it alone. I've been told to put more juvederm in to even it out. But I am having a tummy tuck and breast augmentation next month. So, I asked that Dr about what I could do for my lips. And he mentioned fat grafting. But we were busy discussing my other procedures we didn't have time to talk about fat grafting. We did schedule another appointment to discuss my lips. I'm anxious to find out more about it because no one else has even mentioned it.
November 18, 2014
jwil, if the 4 doctors were mainly for the body procedures, you may need separate consultations for the lips. I'd make sure whoever you consult about your lips has a good history treating your particular issue. Doing lips opens up also the possibility of dermatologists and oculoplastic specialists along with plastic surgeons. There are a few "head and neck surgeons" but it's a specialty I haven't heard about lately and all my memories about their cosmetic procedures are vague.
November 18, 2014
It's actually the opposite. I have been seeing doctors about my lips. And by doing this I just happen to run into a doctor I am very comfortable with doing my other procedures. I have seen dermatologists and plastic surgeons. But the one Drs who even seem confident in fixing my lips have been board certified plastic surgeons. The other doctors are telling me to either leave it alone or add more juvederm, which i think is just insane. I don't have an appointment set up to have anything done to my lips. Just an appointment to discuss fat grafting. I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you.
November 22, 2014
Jwil, It's very possible to have a P.S. do a good facial procedure. Most of the posts on this thread are about the lower eyelid and upper cheek area so some are leaning to oculo and derma because the tissue is thinner in these areas. Also stuff near the eyes gives me the willies and I'm sure I have some company there. :) Your post makes me think now that lips requires a different type of thinking than the eye and cheek areas. Maybe it's because many people who want breast work (especially enhancement) also are into lip enhancement. Adding more juvederm does sound crazy. Leaving them alone you could do but many people cannot wait years for the material to go away. I'm sure many are having diverse areas worked on at the same time they have the lips done or at least with the same doc. I know some have had face and body work during the same surgery with great results. You really need to know what you are doing though to choose someone for such diverse places. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
September 2, 2015
I have been doing lymphatic massage on my face using a gentle almond oil, also was told to try acupuncture.....on my puffed up face to move the filler, your shin can regenerate with some care after you get it out , and I read that our hyrolonic acid builds on it's own constantly so you should do alittle to start. Pumping up more collagen , like my friend who does light dermabrasion , and vitamin c, also just try and see yourself as more than a face ,you are really beautiful and natural and believe me I know how you feel ,I'm a mess, your younger and can blend this mistake I feel so puffed up , I look like I'm on prednisone
September 2, 2015
This is the work of the freakin dark angels , I too have these weird experiences on top of the new blowfish look I'm wearing , I can't believe the tea tree thing I did it too, and the smell is just horrible.
March 10, 2017
you are your worst critic, seeing your pics you look really good. The same thing happened to me so know your agony. Everyone aid they didn't see anything wrong with me but to me I felt hideous. so i know what you are going through, I wasted a lot of money and time on this as well. Life does get better and be confident in who you are as a person.
November 7, 2018
The girl who didn’t said she will remove it for free but I don’t want her to incorrectly use the product and make it worse but everyone else that I’ve called to fix it for me wants to charge and upwards of $500
UPDATED FROM Raleigh4718
Added a whole bunch of photos to show the...
Added a whole bunch of photos to show the progressive dissolving process.
Hopefully forum visitors will see my pics and be more cautious about their choices.
These pictures help demonstrate the much talked about potential side effects of Hyaluronidase.
Hopefully forum visitors will see my pics and be more cautious about their choices.
These pictures help demonstrate the much talked about potential side effects of Hyaluronidase.
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April 28, 2011
Hi Raleigh,
I'm so glad you wrote a review, this will help out the community so much. And so many pictures, awesome! Oh my I can't believe the Juvederm and Hyaluronidase did that to you. It's probably a good idea to see an expert for the laser. Please keep us updated.
Thanks so much for the review,
-Britt
April 28, 2011
Thanks Britt. Yes, I hope it can prevent others from experiencing this, or at least provide comfort for those who are going through the same thing.
My case is just unlucky I think. I actually went to the most respected Oculoplastic guy in my area and this still happended.
Although I have since realized that only a few doctors out there truly understand the power of hyaluronidase around eye tissue.
I have been recommended to see a revision eyelid surgeon (very experienced with filler revision/ hyaluronidase) thanks to communicating with another Real Self forum member who went thought the exact same thing.
Thanks for looking after a great online community.
Regards,
Raleigh
My case is just unlucky I think. I actually went to the most respected Oculoplastic guy in my area and this still happended.
Although I have since realized that only a few doctors out there truly understand the power of hyaluronidase around eye tissue.
I have been recommended to see a revision eyelid surgeon (very experienced with filler revision/ hyaluronidase) thanks to communicating with another Real Self forum member who went thought the exact same thing.
Thanks for looking after a great online community.
Regards,
Raleigh
April 28, 2011
Hi Raleigh,
Although not great for you I'm glad the forum was so helpful for you to find a doctor who hopefully will fix this for you. Please keep us updated when you see the other doctor.
Thanks,
-Britt
April 30, 2011
Hi Britt,
Is there any way an additional photo can be added to a recently posted question? Just noticed some responses to my question that pretty much point out the obvious - I should have included a non-flash pre-treatment photo (which is featured in my review group of pics). no worries if can't do...
Thanks,
Raleigh
Is there any way an additional photo can be added to a recently posted question? Just noticed some responses to my question that pretty much point out the obvious - I should have included a non-flash pre-treatment photo (which is featured in my review group of pics). no worries if can't do...
Thanks,
Raleigh
May 3, 2011
Hi Raleigh,
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner I was out of town. Yes if you just want to PM me your picture or tell me which picture you want I can add it to your question no problem.
-Britt
July 1, 2011
Hi Raleigh
Thanks for your post. I agree with your comments regarding the effects of hyalufronidase. Unfortunately my eyes look similar to yours but the circumstances were different as the doctor was forced to inject 1800 units of hyaluronidase to save my skin fromnecrosisas the juvaderm caused an artery blockage. Because of the amount injected it migrated throughout my face and pockets of this ended up in the tear trough area which caused purple discoloration as well as bumps underneath my eyes. This happened in Jan 2011 and hope to hear if you have had any gradual improvement with time. Also I am looking to se whether hyperbaric oxygen therapy may help and wondered if u had looked into this for your situation. It has been very difficult to find anyone who has experienced this so seeing your post has been helpful. I also have been suffering from anxiety and depression due to this. Hope to hear from you soon.
July 4, 2011
Hi Torontodisaster,
I am terribly sorry. Your story is so awful and I can completely understand why you have anxiety and depression.
I did some Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy for several months to help calm the inflammation, but I don't think I did enough sessions. I could only afford weekly. I think when things are really inflammaed (or infected) you need a few sessions per week.
It did help me sleep better. However it didn't help the tissue damage.
Some of the purple discoloration clears up after 4 months. sometimes 5FU injections cause the same kind of purple pigmentation, but also tend to clear.
The thin, damaged, saggy, stretched gray skin has not improved though. I am doing all sorts of vitamin therapy, hyaluronic acid serums.....not helping.
The dermatologists I have seen said only fractional CO2 laser can help, plus surgery in the form a small skin pinch will help my lower lids.
Some people see improvements after 9 to 12 months. I am waiting but it has been well over a year of trauma for me.
Also battle ongoing nightmares, social anxiety, etc. I don't have my picture taken anymore (haven't had my photo taken in 18 months thanks to this).
If you are in Toronto, it might be worth seeing an eyelid & midface specialist in Los Angeles at some point. Oculoplastic & reconstructive doctors are the sort that specialises in this region.
I am saving to see a good one over there. Live miles away from LA but several people who have experienced Hyaluronidase and filler issues end up going there for help.
I hope things improve for you.
I am terribly sorry. Your story is so awful and I can completely understand why you have anxiety and depression.
I did some Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy for several months to help calm the inflammation, but I don't think I did enough sessions. I could only afford weekly. I think when things are really inflammaed (or infected) you need a few sessions per week.
It did help me sleep better. However it didn't help the tissue damage.
Some of the purple discoloration clears up after 4 months. sometimes 5FU injections cause the same kind of purple pigmentation, but also tend to clear.
The thin, damaged, saggy, stretched gray skin has not improved though. I am doing all sorts of vitamin therapy, hyaluronic acid serums.....not helping.
The dermatologists I have seen said only fractional CO2 laser can help, plus surgery in the form a small skin pinch will help my lower lids.
Some people see improvements after 9 to 12 months. I am waiting but it has been well over a year of trauma for me.
Also battle ongoing nightmares, social anxiety, etc. I don't have my picture taken anymore (haven't had my photo taken in 18 months thanks to this).
If you are in Toronto, it might be worth seeing an eyelid & midface specialist in Los Angeles at some point. Oculoplastic & reconstructive doctors are the sort that specialises in this region.
I am saving to see a good one over there. Live miles away from LA but several people who have experienced Hyaluronidase and filler issues end up going there for help.
I hope things improve for you.
July 4, 2011
Hi Raleigh4718
Thanks for the response..It sounds like we are both trying to exhaust every possible treatment to help us and like you I avoid social situations and as well haven't had my picture taken since this happened. I have bumps or what looks like herniated fat pads underneath my eyes. The doctor keeps telling me its my own fat pads and it well may be however they were not noticeable before I had these injections and I believe have protruded due to damage to tissue which is making them more noticeable. I see from your pictures that you had similar bumps or "fat pads" undereath your eyes. Was that the filler and are they now gone or do you still have them?
Thanks for the response..It sounds like we are both trying to exhaust every possible treatment to help us and like you I avoid social situations and as well haven't had my picture taken since this happened. I have bumps or what looks like herniated fat pads underneath my eyes. The doctor keeps telling me its my own fat pads and it well may be however they were not noticeable before I had these injections and I believe have protruded due to damage to tissue which is making them more noticeable. I see from your pictures that you had similar bumps or "fat pads" undereath your eyes. Was that the filler and are they now gone or do you still have them?
July 4, 2011
I have some herniation left, which gets worse after sleeping or salty foods. An MRI scan shows there is still some Juvederm deep in the socket. It is enough to draw plenty of fluid to the area unfortunately.
But now, after so much Hyaluronidase, I have excess skin which has been properly diagnosed by an eyelid surgeon and dermatologist. This is combined with poor quality skin from losing all my natural hyaluronic acid.
like you, my before photos show no herniated fat pad.
Maybe it is a weak orbital septum from all the stretching of JUvederm?..........With me, everything seems thin, saggy and weak, like it can't hold the contents of the socket back anymore.
THis is why i am going to LA to get it properly diagnosed. i can't afford to muck around with treatments that won't address this.
Your doc may be right, however he sounds like he is trying to put the onus back on you and make your current appearance seem like your own body generated it.
If it wasn't like that before Juvederm, then the filler and/or dissolving enzyme caused it for sure.
I have also had my original doctor tell me if must be my own body's fluid retention. he acknowledged the thin skin and stretched skin and new wrinkles but doesn't want to help fix it (even though i have been so nice about the whole mess - too nice really considering the damage and expense - I was even paying for the Hylauronidase to dissolve this crap). hence i have been forced to go elsewhere for treatment.
But now, after so much Hyaluronidase, I have excess skin which has been properly diagnosed by an eyelid surgeon and dermatologist. This is combined with poor quality skin from losing all my natural hyaluronic acid.
like you, my before photos show no herniated fat pad.
Maybe it is a weak orbital septum from all the stretching of JUvederm?..........With me, everything seems thin, saggy and weak, like it can't hold the contents of the socket back anymore.
THis is why i am going to LA to get it properly diagnosed. i can't afford to muck around with treatments that won't address this.
Your doc may be right, however he sounds like he is trying to put the onus back on you and make your current appearance seem like your own body generated it.
If it wasn't like that before Juvederm, then the filler and/or dissolving enzyme caused it for sure.
I have also had my original doctor tell me if must be my own body's fluid retention. he acknowledged the thin skin and stretched skin and new wrinkles but doesn't want to help fix it (even though i have been so nice about the whole mess - too nice really considering the damage and expense - I was even paying for the Hylauronidase to dissolve this crap). hence i have been forced to go elsewhere for treatment.
June 22, 2011
I had filler just over 2 years ago (juvaderm) and although there is no filler left I have a puffiness under my left eye and it makes me look odd, I put massagers on it and have facials to drain the toxins but nothing will budge it, and I really dont want to have anything else injected in my eye lids ever again is there anything else I could use, would a hyaluronidase cream help.
Please help
Amber
June 23, 2011
sorry candyfloss. no such thing as hyluronidase cream.
be careful with any injections to dissolve juvederm.
go to someone who knows what they are doing.
my eyelid tissue is damaged big time. confirmed by a dermtologist. need laser and skin pinch now. still young but my eyelids are like that of a smoker or sun lover post-menopause age.
good luck :)
be careful with any injections to dissolve juvederm.
go to someone who knows what they are doing.
my eyelid tissue is damaged big time. confirmed by a dermtologist. need laser and skin pinch now. still young but my eyelids are like that of a smoker or sun lover post-menopause age.
good luck :)
June 23, 2011
Thanks very much, I may do some research on laser maybe that will tighten it up. Good luck with your journey and God Bless
June 23, 2011
Very sorry that this has happened to you. It is so difficult to treat.
I hope you have some luck with laser and that is gets much better for you.
Take care & feel free to contact me anytime!
I hope you have some luck with laser and that is gets much better for you.
Take care & feel free to contact me anytime!
November 20, 2011
Hi Raleigh4718, Just following up to see how you are doing? Do you still have the purple //blue colour that showed up after the hyaluronidase treatments or just the saggy skin left? Its now been 10 months and I still have the purple/blue colour...
Thanks
June 23, 2011
Hi Raleigh Iv come accross a treatment called Pelleve its Radiofrequency that boosts collagen, its £100 for an eye treatment Im hoping it will tighten the bag up a bit. I will let you know if it does.
Speak soon!
Speak soon!
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