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“Saggy Loose Lower Eyelids from Juvederm then Hyaluronidase”
Spent: $500 in US
I had too much Juvederm injected into the wrong place. It led to chronic bags, poor contour and a very tired, old look.
A few years ago I had Restylane in the same place with no issues. It looked great and lasted a long time.
Hyaluronidase was recommend to dissolve the Juvederm overfill after waiting several months for the filler to go away on its own (note: it hangs around for up to several years in this area). I had 6 rounds of Hyaluronidase over several months. During that time I witnessed my skin degrade right before my eyes. This was worsened by having my lower lids stretched by too much poorly placed Juvederm for nearly 10 months. The Hyaluronidase immediately made my skin crepey, saggy, loose, with a purple pigmentation line in my tear trough. You literally wake up the next day looking like Charlie Sheen!
It appeared to dissolve my native hyaluronic acid - my plastic surgeon at the time acknowledged he could see the skin losing its elasticity and becoming really thin/wrinkled, so it was recommended I get botox, then look at doing a chemical peel, laser or start using Retin A after treatment with Hyaluronidase was complete. I agreed to the botox, but that did nothing to help with skin quality or the folds/wrinkles below the eye.
For the record, I always used Retin A on my eyelids before all this. My skin was in good condition before Hyaluronidase.
Now I am facing laser or a chemical peel to help address the state of my skin. I plan on travelling to have this sort of treatment done by a top revision eyelid surgeon. It's going to cost a fortune.
Always be careful with any fillers. Even if they can be dissolved, there can be bad results. Many of us on this forum have ended up with terrible complications from Hyaluronidase. Not only has it ruined my eyelids cosmetically, but it also dried out my eyes and left them with a constant tired feel.
It's important to realize that poor results with ANY cosmetic intervention can lead to unexpected expenses, depression, trauma and a prolonged recovery. My life has been a nightmare for the last 12 months. I used to have confidence, but I've become a hermit that hates to go out and no longer likes talking to people. I am sad that I look older than my well-preserved 40 year old sister (I just turned 30). I am sick of being told I look tired, worn out and unwell (I'm super healthy). I am scared that this damage is permanent. I was so much more attractive before. I even want to quit my career because I no longer enjoy interacting with people. It has destroyed my life as I knew it. I now have counselling to assist with the depressed feeling and anxiety caused by this situation.
Do your research. Make sure you are getting the most conservative approach with the best filler for that area. Be careful about having hyaluronidase around the eyes. If you can live with your results, then don't risk it. Dissolving it isn't as simple as it sounds!
Updated on 27 Apr 2011:
I forgot to say please ignore the marks on my nose in the "NOW" pics. It was from pure tea tree oil on a zit that burnt my skin!
Updated on 27 Apr 2011:
Added a whole bunch of photos to show the progressive dissolving process.
Hopefully forum visitors will see my pics and be more cautious about their choices.
These pictures help demonstrate the much talked about potential side effects of Hyaluronidase.
This review is the subjective opinion of a RealSelf member and not of RealSelf, Inc.
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Hi Raleigh,
I'm so glad you wrote a review, this will help out the community so much. And so many pictures, awesome! Oh my I can't believe the Juvederm and Hyaluronidase did that to you. It's probably a good idea to see an expert for the laser. Please keep us updated.
Thanks so much for the review,
-Britt
My case is just unlucky I think. I actually went to the most respected Oculoplastic guy in my area and this still happended.
Although I have since realized that only a few doctors out there truly understand the power of hyaluronidase around eye tissue.
I have been recommended to see a revision eyelid surgeon (very experienced with filler revision/ hyaluronidase) thanks to communicating with another Real Self forum member who went thought the exact same thing.
Thanks for looking after a great online community.
Regards,
Raleigh
Hi Raleigh,
Although not great for you I'm glad the forum was so helpful for you to find a doctor who hopefully will fix this for you. Please keep us updated when you see the other doctor.
Thanks,
-Britt
Is there any way an additional photo can be added to a recently posted question? Just noticed some responses to my question that pretty much point out the obvious - I should have included a non-flash pre-treatment photo (which is featured in my review group of pics). no worries if can't do...
Thanks,
Raleigh
Hi Raleigh,
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner I was out of town. Yes if you just want to PM me your picture or tell me which picture you want I can add it to your question no problem.
-Britt
I am terribly sorry. Your story is so awful and I can completely understand why you have anxiety and depression.
I did some Hyperbaric Oxygen therapy for several months to help calm the inflammation, but I don't think I did enough sessions. I could only afford weekly. I think when things are really inflammaed (or infected) you need a few sessions per week.
It did help me sleep better. However it didn't help the tissue damage.
Some of the purple discoloration clears up after 4 months. sometimes 5FU injections cause the same kind of purple pigmentation, but also tend to clear.
The thin, damaged, saggy, stretched gray skin has not improved though. I am doing all sorts of vitamin therapy, hyaluronic acid serums.....not helping.
The dermatologists I have seen said only fractional CO2 laser can help, plus surgery in the form a small skin pinch will help my lower lids.
Some people see improvements after 9 to 12 months. I am waiting but it has been well over a year of trauma for me.
Also battle ongoing nightmares, social anxiety, etc. I don't have my picture taken anymore (haven't had my photo taken in 18 months thanks to this).
If you are in Toronto, it might be worth seeing an eyelid & midface specialist in Los Angeles at some point. Oculoplastic & reconstructive doctors are the sort that specialises in this region.
I am saving to see a good one over there. Live miles away from LA but several people who have experienced Hyaluronidase and filler issues end up going there for help.
I hope things improve for you.
Thanks for the response..It sounds like we are both trying to exhaust every possible treatment to help us and like you I avoid social situations and as well haven't had my picture taken since this happened. I have bumps or what looks like herniated fat pads underneath my eyes. The doctor keeps telling me its my own fat pads and it well may be however they were not noticeable before I had these injections and I believe have protruded due to damage to tissue which is making them more noticeable. I see from your pictures that you had similar bumps or "fat pads" undereath your eyes. Was that the filler and are they now gone or do you still have them?
But now, after so much Hyaluronidase, I have excess skin which has been properly diagnosed by an eyelid surgeon and dermatologist. This is combined with poor quality skin from losing all my natural hyaluronic acid.
like you, my before photos show no herniated fat pad.
Maybe it is a weak orbital septum from all the stretching of JUvederm?..........With me, everything seems thin, saggy and weak, like it can't hold the contents of the socket back anymore.
THis is why i am going to LA to get it properly diagnosed. i can't afford to muck around with treatments that won't address this.
Your doc may be right, however he sounds like he is trying to put the onus back on you and make your current appearance seem like your own body generated it.
If it wasn't like that before Juvederm, then the filler and/or dissolving enzyme caused it for sure.
I have also had my original doctor tell me if must be my own body's fluid retention. he acknowledged the thin skin and stretched skin and new wrinkles but doesn't want to help fix it (even though i have been so nice about the whole mess - too nice really considering the damage and expense - I was even paying for the Hylauronidase to dissolve this crap). hence i have been forced to go elsewhere for treatment.
be careful with any injections to dissolve juvederm.
go to someone who knows what they are doing.
my eyelid tissue is damaged big time. confirmed by a dermtologist. need laser and skin pinch now. still young but my eyelids are like that of a smoker or sun lover post-menopause age.
good luck :)
I hope you have some luck with laser and that is gets much better for you.
Take care & feel free to contact me anytime!
Hi Raleigh4718, Just following up to see how you are doing? Do you still have the purple //blue colour that showed up after the hyaluronidase treatments or just the saggy skin left? Its now been 10 months and I still have the purple/blue colour...
Thanks
Speak soon!
If anyone has tried CO2 laser can you please let me know if it works.
Thanks very much
Is your pool of product or fluid below the eye (like the description of a malar bag or festoon)?
If so, have a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjqkZJ9Ettc
The other lady on this forum who had bags well below the eye is having some success with Steroid shots, which is what doctors also use to treat Malar Bags (festoons). CO2 laser is the new and more effective way of treating festoons. In particular there is a eyelid guy in Florida doing a lot of festoons this way. He was shown on the Dr Oz show. the results are good but there is downtime.
If the watery bag is higher up above the orbital rim, then REST is the only other treatment available for eyelid fluid - or steroid shots.
REST stands for Radiofrequency Eyelid Sponge Thermoplasty. Different from Pelleve. It is more like a targeted injection apparently using Radiofrequency to shrink the fluid sponge. Not always succesfull and my doctor advised only brings the fluid bag down by 50%. Only a handful of Oculoplastic Surgeons utilize this therapy.
Another girl on this site had her fluid bag treated in a similar way, with a hot injection (not sure if the REST method or not) to dry up all the bag and then fat transfer into hollows. She is now fixed.
It is such a crappy problem. My fluid is deeper in the socket behind the Orbital septum according to an MRI scan that was done, not down towards my cheek like a typical festoon so to speak. Mine gets worse during my cycle fluctuations and after any salt, MSG, hot weather, exercise, sleeping, etc.
Unfortunately it was the dissolving enzyme that degraded my skin quality big time. The wrinkles came about from the overfill being deflated after many months, combined with a major loss of natural hyaluronic acid volume.
I feel for you. I would be rich if not for all this. It has cost me so much in treatments/time/travel and stress. The stress affects your health eventually...
I'm happy to hear you're doing well now.
Others have said the same thing. They're doing much better after having the right sort of treatment for this, with a specialist who knows how to handle it.
you're right though. doesn't come cheap.
I am saving to have this revised in LA. I'm expecting it to cost thousands.
Thanks again Lorri! Take care :)
It's up to you - but my experience has been that Hyaluronidase trashed my skin. Still 18 months on my skin is see through, saggy, wrinkled and completely damaged. I had 7 rounds of Hyaluronidase mind you (as my Juvederm was EVERYWHERE, deep and superficial, in different parts of the eye socket and lids).
I wasn't really able to wait it out though, because there was so much Juvederm under eyes, it was making one of my eyes high in the socket. it looked eneven and also caused strange eye pressure.
I also have the same problem and even when all the Restylane goes you may still have bumps under your eye as I have. I live in the UK and there is nothing to correct it for me here, I just try to massage it away and had Pelleve treatments on it but nothing works.
Good luck with all you try I hope you have more sucess than me and Raliegh have had.
now, 2 side at my cheek have blue bruise , seem it will never fade away . i'm so nervous ! how about your situation ? Do you have any sign better ?
sorry about your problems too :(