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Perlane Never Again-Going to Obliterate This Crap from my Face Using Sauna, Microcurrent, and Lymphstar Pro - Royal Oak, MI

Suffice it to say I no longer look human in...

Suffice it to say I no longer look human in certain lighting. My cheeks were pumped sideways across my face with too much Perlane, exposing old Perlane that was formerly in my NLF. product does not seem to resorb in me. I have read about hyaurolondaise- not doing it. I am posting this to let anyone who is in similar situation that I am going to try testing jump starting my lymphatic system to push/drag this stuff out if my face. I bought a rebounder/trampoline (great for lymphatic system movement), going to hot stones sauna at gym, eating mostly vegetables, will be starting microcurrent and Lymphstar Pro treatments as soon as I can book the appointments.

I literally have piles of flesh on each side of my mouth now (did not prior to treatment) with crap inside that freezes up in the cold, thaws at room temp, and actually becomes soft in the sauna. The board certified dermatologist made injections around each side of my mouth for some reason. The end result is kind if beyond description, other than does not occur in nature. The lines of crap are clearly visible in the mirror. There is no question to anyone looking at me that something is in there. To make things even more fun, I was not injected evenly, so I'm completely asymmetrical now. Loved my symmetry before. My smile is destroyed.

Hopefully I'll be able to add photos to this later.


I'm sorry you are having such a bad experience.  Crazy that it gets cold and melts depending on the temperature!  I can't imagine how frustrated you are.  I hope you keep us posted on your decided route to remove it, we are all interested to see how this works for you.  Good luck!

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Update #1

My dermatologist referred me to another derm who has used hyaurolondaise before. Both recommended I not do it. Also, I'd emailed a highly reputable cosmetic surgeon, with pictures. His response was that he recommends no further procedures at this time. (Which I took to mean that I am such a mess that any attempt to fix will only make it worse.) I have a photo of one portion of the problem that I will add to this update. The photo is coming off an iPad, and may not be viewable on laptops. People can comment and let me know if that's the case.

I've done two days of sauna now and daily rebounding (jumping) for about a week. It's hard to jump for long because after only a couple of minutes, my stomach starts glugging up and down. Probably from being so empty. It's hard to eat anything when I'm this anxious about my face. To that end, my doctor (not my dermatologist) recommended I take Gama Calm, which I started tonight. Still anxious. Will update on that too as modality to get through waiting out the time it takes for Perlane to resorb. When I went back to the injecting dermatologist the second time to show her my face, she told me not to be anxious lest I crease my forehead, and to go to my family doctor for anti-depressants. My family doctor is a naturopath, hence the Gama Calm.

It is so hard waiting.


Update #2 Early December, 2013 Just saw my doctor to discuss anxiety remedies stemming entirely from this face crap. So far, no hard drugs. Just the GAMA Calm tablets and Rescue Remedy homeopathic stuff. It's only been a day, and I keep downing the stuff, but I feel anxious 100% of the time. My fear is this crap will never leave my body, or that I won't be able to wait it out. He did some treatments on each of my cheeks, for twenty minutes each. I have appointments for the next three weeks, two times per week, for the same treatment. It's called a BioModulator, and it treats inflammation with voltage. The idea is to get my skin healing in the areas above my cheeks that are swollen with old product, formerly in my NLFs.
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Update #3 (I accidentally put Update #2 in the comments)

Still first half of December

Had one LymphStar Pro session to get my lymph flowing to drag this stuff out. The woman rested the wand against each cheek for a while to encourage drainage from those areas.

Also had first accupuncture treatment to ensure no energy blockages preventing this stuff from leaving my body.

Went to a doctor that me dermatologist found for me who was ready to out me on Prozac or Zoloft at my dermatologist's suggestion. I said no, that's not me. I was the happiest I've ever been in my life until two months ago (the time of injection). She prescribed me Xanax instead. I plan not to take them. Benadryl is getting me through the really rough patches. I normally don't even take Advil. I considered wine, but then put the bottle back on the shelf when I saw the alcohol content. Alcohol just isn't me.

Not looking in mirrors or taking photos helps, but it's so hard not to for any stretch of time.


I had been taking the GABA calm, but wasn't feeling much if any relief from it. I did figure out that the Benadryl my dermatologist had recommended I take daily to reduce unexplained puffiness above my NLF injections are CNDs...central nervous depressants!! So I ceased taking them as of yesterday. I actually woke up looking slightly less heinous today than usual. I hope I have the fortitude to wait this out. It seems to get harder every day.
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Are you taking the Gana Calm?  How is it going? 

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Update #4

Still beginning of December.

Read online of two people who said that stevia masks removed their filler! Want to try (as ridiculous as it sounds) but afraid of the taut skin tightening effect everyone seems to have during/from it. Being overfilled has me PLENTY taut enough. I don't know if I've mentioned it on here before, but my face is downright uncomfortable with all this crap in it. I'd had filler before, but had never been overfilled before or had big heavy implants gloving my skin together alongside each side of my mouth. And they ARE implants. I've been reading medical papers on what this stuff really is. I will refrain from saying more about this right now. Back on the topic at hand...my skin is stretched enough by all this overfill that I fear any more tightening of it with a stevia mask, but where there's hope, I gotta try. Maybe this weekend.

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Update #5

I found that there are certain search words that pull up actual scientific papers on the HA fillers rather than all the marketing and cosmetic procedure websites. I found a paper that says excess amounts of riboflavin (vitamin B-2) metabolizes the processes that break down hyaurolonic acid. I'm on it. Taking three B-complex vitamins per day. Also, stopping taking vitamin C, as it fuels collageneses.


Try the hylaronidase. It's a very effective treatment
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Update #6

For the second time, saw the dermatologist that the injector referred me to after things went wrong. She said even if I wanted the hyaurolondaise, she wouldn't use it on me. She said it would wipe everything out, leading to more shots to rebuild, over a long course of time, and for a lot of money. She told me to use an electric toothbrush to try to break this stuff up. She said just wait six months. She said it's not permanent scar tissue because she can clearly feel the implants in there. She gave me revived spirit to keep going.


Ugh, so sorry that you are going through this. My fillers seem to dissappear faster when I do a lot of cardio. But sooner or later the filer will go away...
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Thank you SO MUCH for letting me know this!! I have created a cardio regime that I can do at my home constantly to try to get rid of this heavy, itchy bag of flesh my dermatologist created next to my mouth, as well as the rest of the mess. Why why why??? is all I think about every day. I asked about risks, and was not informed about any of this that has happened to me. I was told if anything went wrong she could nick it out with a razor, but after everything went wrong on me and I reminded her she'd said that, she said, "O, no...I injected it too deep in you to do that." I just got a third opinion this past Friday, and that dermatologist referred me to a plastic surgeon. I'm only 43 and I loved my (formerly) pretty face on the day I went in for a touch up on three faint lines. Why did she do this to me??? I feel slaughtered. I am cardio'ing like a maniac.
You are wasting time and energy and your sanity on all these other options. Just get the Vitrace done. Trust me and electric toothbrush will not work!
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Update #7

Only did two times in the hot stones sauna, back in November time frame, because now I'm too self conscious to go to the gym. I only go to work and one grocery store. There is another grocery store that I'd prefer to go to, but there is one part of the grocery store I do go to where the lighting has me looking normal (ish) so I hang out in that one section and talk to the woman who works there. She said she is an artist. And asked me what my doctor was trying to do when she did this...fill in all the lines?? I said I didn't know (I don't). Beyond the three lines I asked to be filled, I have no idea what the rest of the mess was even for. My favorite part of my face...my cheeks and natural smile...were destroyed. It's an interesting thing to find out afterward that your doctor never cared about your face, your cheeks, or your smile. I had no idea those things could be wrecked by light line correction, and I assumed anyone putting something in my face...particularly a doctor...particularly a dermatologist...would care about me and my skin. A dermatologist can rearrange a face??? Apparently so. I can tell you for sure...YES. Now I know. Has anyone else been told of this risk??

Anyway, my update is I think I've researched dermal filler more than my doctor has at this point, so apparently I care more about what went wrong than she does.

This is the hardest way to wreck your whole life in thirty minutes that I can think of. Please, anyone reading this, stay away from dermal filler if you care about your face, physical comfort, or life.


Update #8

Early February, 2014. The horrible filler, if anything, has gained volume rather than reduced. There are studies online to support this, one in particular actually. (Google "36 months persistance Restylane") In the conclusion, the authors guess at why the "correction" is increasing rather than reducing, and conclude that further study is needed. Anyway, that's what seems to be going on. I have a bolt that looks like something on Frankenstein's neck sticking out on the left side of my face where The Most Ungifted, Unartistic dermatologist in the world apparently crossed squirts of dermal filler lines. I honestly think she must be blind to have done such a horrible job. I looked GREAT when I went in. All she had to do was...almost nothing!! At least follow my God given lines rather than create a bunch of scar-looking formations running perpendicular to the ground. It's like she TRIED to age me by 15-20 years. And then to be so dumbfounded afterward as to why I don't like having my face wrecked? I think she's insane because nothing else could explain it. She tried to convince me I only THINK I had cheeks before. I showed her a picture taken shortly before the injections. She zoomed on it, stared hard for a long time, then declared, "You were wearing makeup!" Yes, I was wearing LIPSTICK, which to my knowledge does not create big apple cheeks. She is insane. Anyway, my follow up is I can't wait to rid my face of all this crap so I can have my authentic face back. She stole me cheeks, then tried to tell me it looked good, probably with the intent of making me a needle junkie, but it did the exact opposite. I'm out of the filler game. I view my face as a wound now (particularly due to the nerve pain, irritation, and drooling her handiwork caused) and I will heal. This wound will heal. And it'll heal even faster and better than it would have if I'd taken the Prozac she kept trying to shove down my throat. That woman might have a "doctor" title, but she is no healer, and in fact promotes and causes unwell being. She is a dangerous zombie in a white lab coat.


How are things now? Was thinking of doing this myself until I saw your post. May I email you with question? I'm a mom w smile lines living in sfo
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Six months in...no improvement

Why a doctor thought I wanted V's next to my mouth I have no idea. I guess it was to announce that I'm from the planet Voltron, as I now look to be. I definitely don't look human anymore. No human has giant V's protruding on her face. I looked so good before all this. I wish my doctor had told me she was a moron ahead of time, instead of letting me find out too late. Shouldn't a board certified dermatologist make it her business to remove unwanted growths from her patients rather than implant them?

I've tried everything, including a departure from veganism, thinking the enzymes in animal meats will help break down this ridiculous insano-glue. So far, no luck, but I have gained ten pounds.

I don't know of too many other women who are dying to be old. I'm thinking by then, this will all be over, and I will have a normal face again. Please, God, let this be over. It's Easter. Do me a solid. Melt this crap like you melted the lakes just this past week.

When you're begging God for facial combustion, you know you're not at the top of the queue. He probably has other stuff going on, like wars.

What else is there to do?? I've got way too many allergies to consider hyaluronidase. My (ex) dermatologist keeps offering me injected steroids to address her overfill. (She doesn't do hyaluronidase.)

I just want to leave it all alone in the belief that nature will run its course in my face as it does in the woods, which, not coincidentally, is where I now spend most of my time when not huddled up at home afraid to go anywhere because of my face. I keep hoping the woods will heal my face, and bring it back to nature.

Garbage in the woods eventually disappears. Maybe this garbage in my face can also be tumbled out by nature.


So...after our emails, did you go through with it?? My suggestion to everyone is if you're going to do it (I WOULDN'T now that I know what this stuff is!!!) then discuss each injection with the injector to be sure it makes sense to you, make sure they don't use a full syringe on you, and insist on seeing befores and afters of other patients, if they don't have them, run. KNOW THAT WHOEVER IS INJECTING YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HELP YOU IF IT MEESES UP YOUR FACE. All these injectors know is whatever marketing BS is fed to them. The manufacturers are behind that BS. There is no going backwards if forwards doesn't wok out.

April 22, 2013

Six calendar months and two weeks ago today, I woke up with a normal, pretty face. I had no idea my entire life was going to be derailed by a dermatologist before nightfall.

I used to constantly get compliments on my beautiful skin and my youthful looks. People were always looking at me and smiling as I walked downtown. Now people look away when I smile at them.

Today I learned that where I belong now is a run down Dollar General next door to the Salvation Army. Nobody smiled at me, but I felt more on par with these people than I do with the well groomed people with anatomically correct faces that I see downtown.

I used to not understand how anyone could be self-conscious/ have social anxiety, etc. now I literally feel unfit to go to Meijer. The lighting there is hell on my horribly filled face.

Nobody should have to live like this. And by live, I mean "live". God, let this end.


Lady, after reading all your posts, you need serious psychiatric help. Yes, you have had a bad experience with a COSMETIC procedure, but you are by no means disfigured. I have seen the 3 photos you posted and quite frankly, you look normal. You keep talking about how pretty you were and how youthful etc. etc. etc. If you were that great, then why the fillers (more than one time) to begin with? Anybody who quits going to their grocery store because it "has bad light" and only talks to one lady at a different store has bigger issues. I feel for you, but get some non-homeopathic, non acupuncture actual brain help.
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April 23, 2014

I wrote the year wrong on yesterday's entry.

Woke up to birds singing. I love that. Went in the bathroom and saw my face. Had to look away to try to cut off all the negative emotions. I used to love my face, up to October 8, 2013. A doctor who told me there was no risk to this substance completely wrecked my face with it.

I'm just waiting for the big wound that is my face to heal. This just has to go away. I don't even know how I keep going to work. I love my job and my coworkers, but I have thought about quitting every single day since this happened. The stress of going anywhere with this face is overwhelming. I'm a very strong person, but this is just about more than I can take.

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May 17, 2014 New Dermatologist

So I tried to establish a relationship with a new dermatologist. She swears that this mess will be gone at twelve months, which is in less than five months. She kept sating, "It HAS to go away." If only I could believe that. This nightmare feels like forever. Being confident enough to leave my house- which was only seven months, one week, and five days ago- feels like another lifetime. Living life as an outlier of society is horrible. It's so hard to believe this will really end. A lawyer contacted me a couple of weeks ago. Just getting from one minute to the next is hard enough. Will this really ever go away? It's so hard and heavy in my face, and seems to be growing rather than shrinking, particularly on the left side. I didn't want protruding growths added to my face. I can't believe I've managed to keep working through this, but I have. It's so hard to go back on Mondays, even though I love my job. It's the gruesome surreality of having growths all over my face that make it so hard to live now. I'd give everything I have just to have my face back.

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June 12, 2014 - Every day is hell

If anyone is reading this who hasn't already let someone bludgeon their face with filler injections, don't do it. Or, if you do it, be very, very careful. My advice is do NOT let someone just "have at it" on your face. Make sure they explain, prior to each injection, why they are putting it there, and what the effect will be. Make sure it makes sense to you!!!

I have nonsensical pillars of goo that were installed on what used to be flat, unlined skin, and now, as a result, I have skin that pops out, and folds around the pillar. What else was my skin to do? It was fine to begin with, and stuff was put into it, creating bulk in areas where human faces are supposed to be flat (as mine was). It is ridiculous that a doctor would do something so completely unnecessary ("First, do no harm"???) but she did it, and now it is my sentence to live out.

Every day is utter hell. The filler is the first and only thing I think about from the moment I wake up until I go to sleep each night. I let someone wreck my face because I trusted her. Learn from me. Don't let this happen to you. Trust nobody. It is your face for you to live with, and whatever happens, you'll be in it alone. It's horrifying. Save yourself. Stay away from filler, OR, if you feel you must do it, supervise every single injection prior to it being placed in your face, injection by injection. Don't worry about being That Patient. I was worried about being That Patient, so I kept my mouth shut when things didn't feel right...what she was doing didn't make sense. And now the doctor has zero remorse, and I'm the one who has to figure out how to get through each day with a face that looks deformed, more so in certain lighting than others, fearing my own reflection and ending my social life as a result.

Also, don't believe the "it's only a few months" hype/ lie. I've had this in my face for eight months, and at my most recent ultrasound, learned that there has been no change since baseline. There are no signs of it breaking down whatsoever.

Save yourself.


BSW - there is a man writing on RS whose wife recently had a biofilm infection caused by Volbella. It was in the background but became active from trauma - the removal of a sunspot. His username is IvanB. Search for him on this site and chat with him. He is lovely and very informative. It is worth a shot. You have nothing to lose!
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BSW- IvanB has posted a very comprehensive report of his wife's biofilm infection from Volbella. Please search him out on this site. The very experienced plastic surgeon they went to has been practising for 20 years and said they were now her second case of biofilm infection from HA filler. He said she prescribed a month course of an antibiotic called Ciprobay. Apparently it took some time for the antibiotic to kick in but it eventually resolved all issues completely. Please look into this. IvanB and his wife are in Sth Africa. I looked up Ciprobay and it is available in the US. It looks fierce! One of the things it treats is Anthrax. Good grief it must be potent. Maybe you should find a plastic surgeon or other doctor who knows about it? See whether they think it's worth trying a course of Ciprobay?
I just wonder since her dilemma came up months after, if I read correctly. My symptoms started immediately after. I will check it out though. I did read his story of his wife. Thank you for trying to help me. It's nice to know there are caring people out there.

Don't Believe the "12 months" Lie

This garbage does not go away by 12 months. Mine hasn't even begin to break down, and I passed the 12 month mark this week. Don't let anybody tell you this is temporary as a way of telling you you have nothing to lose. So far I've lost my pretty face, my happiness, and a year of my life. The side effects include letting myself get treated disrespectfully by people in a way I would not have tolerated over a year ago. I never thought a dermatologist could zap away self-esteem in a single appointment, with no consent form. Actually, I never even knew dermatologists used consent forms for anything, since mine didn't. I wonder what hers would have said if she'd bothered to have one.


How r u? I am so sorry this happened to u. I have also had horrible experiences with fillers. I really hope you r back to being vegan. I couldn't imagine that being taken from me. I'd love to hear your update.
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How are you doing BSW?
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I'm still not good. May have told you I had fluid on my knees from the inflammation. Now my wrists are hurting but I still feel like I have the flu all over. I talked to someone with Botox reaction that also had fluid that collects in joints. It is painful along with the flu feeling and immobility of body. I have no strength. My granddaughter is stronger than me and she is 6. Now that's pitiful. I may be going to the Cleveland clinic for a real diagnosis, nothing to lose. Can't decide whether to try holistic again or not. I really hate strong drugs. I'm supposed to have a colonoscopy and had to stop taking the 800 mgs of Ibuprophen due to bleeding problems for the colonscopy. The rheumatologist put me on Celebrex. Not too excited but it replaces the Ibuprophen to get me through the procedure. Been on Celebrex for 2 days, too early to say if it helps. I feel paralyzed most of time. I can move but the pain is awful. After 3 yrs I guess I don't know what a good day is. It's a a big nightmare and I pray that one day it will be gone and I can look back and be very thankful. Otherwise, life will be difficult because I was so active before and could do almost anything. Thanks for asking. How about you? Alot of people I read about have issues in their faces but mine all in body. It's all bad.
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