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Lifestyle Letdown (W/neck Procedure)

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Spent: $5,600 in Roseville, CA

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Updated 10 Feb 2010

Posted 9 Feb 2010

I too had a Lifestyle Lift with neck procedure in November '09 - 12 weeks ago and still healing.

The results were far less than what I expected. But what was worse was the pain I endured the first night after the procedure and the fact that the 24 Hour Emergency Line was not manned --- no one to talk to to get additional pain meds! The next day when I removed the bandages my neck looked as if someone had tried to strangle me with a wire - more painful than the incisions!

I sent a registered letter to the LSL Headquarters -they claimed they never received it until I told them the name of the person who signed for it. Then low and behold they located it - Some management! They've shown absolutely NO CONCERN for the pain and suffering I went through and further have not addressed their negligence vis-a-vis the 24 hour emergency line. So much for their "The SAFETY of our patients is our No. 1 priority" not to mention that their "caring attitude doesn't end when your procedure does" is their greatest lie!

The LSL is nothing but a Cut and Run Operation. The Hippocratic Oath of Do No Harm is an unknown for their Medical Director, Dr. R. James Koch. I "trusted in the Lifestyle Lift Team" as their advertising hype proports and was obviously duped. They should be sued out of existence. I plan to contact Jeffrey Wahl in Cleveland to join the Class Action Suit. Taking action at least makes one feel less of a victim of their outrageous dishonesty aqnd callousness.

This review is the subjective opinion of a RealSelf member and not of RealSelf, Inc.

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He may be competent but the team he works with negates his competence.

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Gustavo A. Diaz, MD 10 Feb 2010
Hi Ivy. I hope that you are doing well. Pain is very relative to patients. I have had patients that after a facelift they are ready to go out for the night and others that are in agony. I assure you that many other surgeons will agree that the level of pain that is felt after surgery directly correlates to the personal paint tolerance that you are born with. I believe that you had some pain after surgery. Also all surgeons would agree that after the surgery is done and you are back home there is a limited amount of pain medication that can be given orally to minimize pain without monitoring. I am sure that you had pain medication, and I think that you were frustrated that you could not get maybe something stronger that very same night. That is understandable also and you are correct at feeling some anger. The pictures that you show online were taken 1-2 days after surgery because I can see the marker on your neck. I see some swelling that is expected no jowls, and no excess skin. I think that a before and after picture will place more objective visualization on your results.
Ivy1949 11 Feb 2010
Dear Dr. Diaz, I assure you I have a high tolerance for pain; what I do not have is a high tolerance for negligence, i.e., a 24 hour emergency telephone line that was not manned. None of my messages were ever responded to by the "caring team at LSL." I have gone through 14 other surgeries - brain, abdominal, oral, just to name a few - and with proper pain medication had no problem with the first 24 hours after the procedure. What I failed to put in my comments was the fact the bandages that had been applied by a surgical technician [whom I suspect had very little training - perhaps at a meat packing plant?] were applied far too tightly and with no professional oversight. Further my comments about its extreme tightness quickly were dismissed with a chortle! My letter to the Patient Relations Dept. of the LSL Headquarters a.k.a. Scientific Image Center Management, Inc. (I'm sure you're familiar with the entity) described in detail the pain and anguish I felt as well as the photos of my neck and ears 24 hours after surgery and 8 hours after the bandages were removed. The photo you see on the internet does not do it justice - the red gash marks on my neck were far more pronounced on the actual photo. The issue here, Dr. Diaz, is not the "results" but the NEGLIGENCE of LSL for not having a 24 hour a day telephone emergency line manned as the post operative instructions listed. Just imagine if our 911 call was not answered or asked us to leave a voice mail message! Further the poor training and medical oversight of a technician who clearly had no understanding of the pressure needed vis-a-vis the application of the post operative gauze bandages further underscores the fact that LSL in no way lives up to its claim that, "We take very seriously your safety and comfort." LSL's Standard of Care is grossly lacking! My woman's intuition is telling me you are somehow connected to LSL and pose on the website in an attempt to discredit or diminish a patient's claim against a company that clearly places profit far above caring for its customers. Sincerely, Ivy
Ivy1949 11 Feb 2010
Shame on you, Dr. Diaz. It only took a few clicks of the mouse to find that you are indeed a LSL Doc at the Huntersville, NC facility. Perhaps you suffer from a LSL employee Stockholm Syndrome?
Bits 19 Feb 2010
Doc, What would your answer be to someone who has endured pain for over 3 years? What could cause this? I have a very HIGH threshold of pain& I couldn't eat anything or open my mouth for days. I drank soup from a straw. I delivered twins by C-Section & I can say this was as painful. I had a lengthy TMJ surgery that didn't compare to this surgery& it was a small incision,as LSL assured me their incisions would be.Please speculate on this question. Behind my ears, the bones hurt horribly, where my ear was pulled down& sewed to my face hurts badly, weather changes makes it worse.The constant tightness in the lobes and toward the neck that make me feel I have something choking me are frigtening. The numbness in my ears, lobes and outer face never go away. What went wrong? What was done to me? There are no surgical reports what he did.
This case highlights what many patients feel about Lifestyle Lift: oversold and under-delivered. Many patients feel anxiety, some degree of psychological stress, and even a little discomfort after a Facelift procedure. The vast majority of independent Plastic Surgeons and Facial Plastic Surgeons provide for these situations by being accessible. The complaints voiced here are not dissimilar to what other patients have reported: there was either no-one to talk to or someone to talk to, but no-one who would listen. If either a cosmetic surgery company or surgeon are not accessible within a phone call the first 48 hours after a procedure, they just aren't doing their job. Once again, my recommendations to prospective patients: go with reliable word of mouth in your town and don't believe the hype associated with Lifestyle Lift. There is nothing revolutionary about it, it does not offer less down time, and there are legions of disatisfied patients.
Ivy1949 11 Feb 2010
Dear Dr. Prendiville, Thank you for your comments. It is clear that your understand my concerns. I truly wish I had found this website before i went through my procedure. It would have been worth the additional money to go to a respected plastic surgeon locally. I fully intend to loadly broadcast my experience with LSL so that other women do not believe and end up victims of the LSL advertising and hype. Again thank you. Ivy
nattyann 10 Sep 2010
Dr. P -Thanks for offering up great advice, I was looking for reviews and figured it seemed to good to be true. I tried doing accent lazer for sagging skin around my neck and had no results after spending $2,500. I now a have an appt to see a plastic surgeon to see about surgery. Any advice on how to seek out the best plastic surgeon? What kinds of questions to ask when interviewing surgeons? How much down time is associated w/ a face lift just around the neck? I also appreciate others that posted their disappointment and bad results.
Bits 12 Feb 2010
Dr P, You are the BEST! All we ever got were excuses. Promises made, never delivered. As we complain more, they change what is said in their website, brochures, etc. I know some women get great results, but the ones that do not, shouldn't be treated as we were! They should follow up on us& really act like they care & try to help us. That's all we ever wanted to begin with. But we are just called 'disgruntled patients' wanting to look 20 yrs younger, they say. We weren't that stupid even when that was advertized. Geez, my Dr's idea of a revision was to sew my right earlobe down& to my face to make it look even with the left one he did. Why can't they just admit that not all Dr's are good there& work with us? I know they have some really good Dr's there. Kent just blows off every complaint like we are insignificant& that hurts. Thanks for being so honest on our behalf.
Trishaasif 15 Feb 2010
HONEST, how in the world can he say he's had people go out the evening of the surgery. I am 56 y.o.a. had 3 major procedures in the past 12 yrs. All fantastic results, and no way, could I go out the evening of the surgery. First of all your eyes are still closed for at least 2 days. The bandages don't even come off for at least 48 hrs. It's just totally rediculous to suggest such a thing. Right there, all credibility lost.
Bits 15 Feb 2010
Three plus years later, it still hurts to have the phone against my ears... I can't imagine upper lid surgery! But, that's what they advertized when I had the procedure done.
Ada 16 Feb 2010
I think Dr (and I use that term loosely)Gustavo must be a life style lift dr they have paid to post such crap!! I couldn't go out for about 2 weeks because of the swelling, brusing, dried blood still in my hair, and the SMELL of the dried blood because I was told to not to wash my hair until I went back and got the stiches out!! GO OUT THE SAME NIGHT, I DON'T THINK SO!!! AND, I too still have pain in my ears and nerve damage to my eyelids and I had the surgery in Sept, 2008. I am happy for anyone that was brave enough to go on to life style lifts and did well, more power to you - but I would venture to bet you are one in a million!!
Gustavo A. Diaz, MD 17 Feb 2010
Hi Ada. I do not know what I have done to deserve the treatment that you just gave me. I am a real Double Board Certified Facial Plastic Surgeon. I have practiced for years. You can see my website www.drgusdiaz.com. I have nothing to hide like many others here. It is too strange to me that somebody told you not to wash for a week after surgery, which goes against logical wound cleaning. I think that you are mad for other reasons and I think that taking it out on me is not a very dignifying way for you to do it. Everything I post here is voluntary and I am free to do it. Notice that I do not only give advice on LifeStyle Lift, I also do it on other subjects of Facial Plastic Surgery. Just follow all my posts.
Eureka 5 Nov 2010
I had lifestyle lift also and am very disappointed and still after over a year I'm still hurting and dealing with an absess that won't go away. I'm tired of being sick. I was also told not to wash my hair. That is not a lie. O believe her not you. Lifestyle sift isa fraud as I had a lifrt when I was 48 by a conventional Dr. Wish I hadn't listened to your stinkin hype on TV and went back to him.
Gustavo A. Diaz, MD 17 Feb 2010
Hi Kid. I have not done anything to you to talk back at me this way. I have done better this year that any year when I was in my private practice, so this tells you that Lifestyle Lift has not been affected by the recession. I thought that this place was to improve patient communication and understanding of procedures. As I have stated before, I talk on this board about all aspects of Facial Plastic Surgery. It is incredible how you people try to insult somebody. I do not have to go back to PR for anything. I was born American as you and can stay wherever I want to work as you. I have helped many of the patients that have complaints here. It is incredible that you treat another human that has not harmed you like you do Kid. This says a lot about you character as a person.
Chrystal Eckes (RealFriend) 17 Feb 2010
OK, most of you know me and I will say this about Dr. Diaz. He is the ONLY person from LSL that contacted me privately and offered to help me. Now, every one whose jaw is on the floor, pick them up. I too was shocked when this Dr. who does not know me, contacted me and offered to help after almost 3 years of NO contact with any one from LSL, out of the blue, Dr. Diaz offered to help. Of course I kindly turned him down, I have already had surgery to fix my LSL nightmare with a ABCPS and I didn't tell him but I could never go back to a LSL Center or doctor no matter how good he is. I don't know Dr. Diaz other than from this board and his posts and his patients posts. This being said, we have to remember that we are all human and each and every one of us has the right to post. I know we are all angry at LSL about their procedures and the way they seem to forget about us once they have our money but maybe Diaz is on the up and up and wants to help, maybe he feels badly for those of us who got the shaft. I don't know. Like I said, he is the only person from LSL who contacted me and even offered any kind of help. This does not change my opinion of LSL one bit but maybe it shows that there are one or two doctors that work at LSL that does care. Until LSL Corporate does some major revamping of procedures and stop having sales associates selling plastic surgery like its candy, I am afraid we will continue to see posts from "unhappy patients". Best, Chrystal Eckes
Bits 17 Feb 2010
I agree w/ You Chrystal. Not all Dr's there are bad& I sense Diaz is a good one& very nice of him offereng to help. I wish I got that offer, as this pain everyday is awful& I have a high threshold of pain.3+ yrs of pain is more than I can handle!
7054anon 30 Mar 2010
I just joined this site and it has been very helpful. I am a nurse pracitioner and my husband is a physician. I didn't read the comment that "Kid" made, however I have seen horrible comments on other sites meant to be helpful. Dr. Diaz you are correct in stating these people hide behind an screen name and make slanderous and negative comments. Especialy if they had a bad medical/surgical outcome. They are angry and just surf the web looking to criticize. It's refreshing that this site has someone watching out for people like this. Thank-you for your comments. Jeanine
Gustavo A. Diaz, MD 18 Feb 2010
Hi all. I thank Chrystal for her post. Even on the face that she does not know me she gives me the respect that another person deserves. I offer her to help her at my office without asking her any questions. To all you others that bash me without even knowing my credentials first take a look at yourselves. Most of you hide behind a screen name. This falsely gives you a sense of security and courage to attack indiscriminately. I do not have anything to hide. My name, address, phone number, website is out there. My results speak for themselves. To Kid I only say that the University of Puerto Rico is the most difficult program to enter for med school in the island. It is accredited by the same accrediting institution that sees over the entire medical school programs in the United States. The same goes for my residency program. Only the top of the class will go into surgical residency programs. I attended a highly specialized fellowship in Facial Plastic Surgery here in the US. I took the same board exams as all physicians here in the US take. Why? Because Puerto Rico is also part of the United Stated. We are the only independent state of the United States. Kid, you were not able to find something wrong with my credentials and reputation, so the only thing that you were able to attack me was on my nationality. That is very wrong. That is like you use the "n" word on an African American or the "R" word on a special need kid. What you did has a name "RACISIM". That says a lot about your character and values as a person. This board is so that we can find solutions for your problems and understand each other better, not for personal attacks from the comfort of your anonymous screen name or cyber bulling. I have other physicians here that can be witness of who I am. Sadly because of this Kid I am considering not posting any more comments and only answer questions. It is sad that because of one rotten apple, all of the others loose the opportunity to improve their life, but you have to understand that I will not put up with this type of personal attacks with no foundations and evidence. Chrystal, I have a lot of respect for you. Thanks for your kind words to me even on the face of adversity and all that you have been though these 3 years. The doors of my office are open to anyone that wishes help.
Sharon at RealSelf (Community Manager) 18 Feb 2010

Hello everybody,

I have removed inappropriate comments from this thread that were racist and xenophobic towards certain members of the RealSelf community. I understand that Lifestyle Lift is a volatile topic for many RealSelfers, but racist comments are NOT tolerated under any circumstances - whether directed at patients, doctors or the LSL company itself.

Obviously this message is directed at a minority of users who have made inappropriate comments, but it nonetheless needs to be said.

Dr. Diaz, I hope you will continue to post here, as your insights have been extremely helpful for our community. As Chrystal said, you are one of the few (the only?) Lifestyle Lift doctors who is willing to answer questions from some very upset patients. Thank you for this; it takes guts.

For everyone's benefit, here is a link to our Community Guidelines. If anyone has questions, you can also contact a member of the RealSelf team using the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the page, or via private message (click on my username to send me a message).

Thanks,
--Sharon

Gustavo A. Diaz, MD 18 Feb 2010
Thanks Sharon for beein impartial and monitoring this. It is sad that some persons use this media for those types of insults. I did not know that you guys monitor this as strict as you do. That is very good. Thanks again.
It is unfortunate that this forum was used for personal attacks on anybody, including Dr. Diaz. However, I would like to reiterate the point that anger and distrust on this forum are really more channeled toward the marketing practices, patient care, and postoperative management of the company that is Lifestyle Lift; a company that has been the subject of multiple investigative TV series, news articles, class action lawsuits, and better business bureau complaints. This is an entity which is much bigger and leaves a much greater footprint than Dr. Diaz and the origin of this complaint was not about Dr. Diaz. To step in and defend an entity that has had the record Lifestyle Lift has had is simply asking for trouble. I think that if Lifestyle Lift would change their marketing practices, run the business whereby evaluations and decisions were made only by Doctors (not sales consultants), gain accreditation for their facilities (just like any honorable and ethical Facial Plastic Surgeon would do), fully inform patients of the nature of the procedure, the postoperative care, they would have far fewer complaints. However, Lifestyle Lift has only gained a foothold in the United Sates with its sensational marketing. Dr. Diaz knows this is not a revolutionary procedure, he knows that performing a proper facelift takes longer than an hour, he knows that IV sedation is frequently beneficial for patient anxiety, he knows that downtime associated with any procedure can be unpredictable and patients should not be oversold on lack of downtime for any procedure. Unfortunately Lifestyle Lift has in the past and currently makes promises in their advertising which are not realistic. The basis of many patients decision to go with Lifestyle Lift were based on what they believed their experience would be. I encourage Dr. Diaz to take the high road (as would Dr. McCullough) and help change the practices of his company.
Bits 18 Feb 2010
very Well said, Dr. P... You are one of the stand up doctors that tell it like it is! I sincerely thank you for this. As for Dr. Diaz, I didn't see the post from "KID", but know calling you a racist or anyother name is totally wrong & as a realself member& former LSL mishap that was decieved, I know there are some good docs at that center& believe you to be one, mainly for trying to help Chrystal. My wish would be for you to get LSL to change their websites to include the actual incisions, the pain associated with that procedure, the extended downtime and change the scam that it is a revolutionary new procedure, which is highly deceptive. I know several former LSL dr's that left for that very reason. I know you are probably very talented, but we , as former patients, also know we got Dr's that a 5yr old could've done a better job on us, than they did. I haven't seen one surgical report on me, the Dr never called me-EVER- the day after my procedure when I called crying when I saw that my incisions were not tiny incisions, as promised.And he sewed my ear to my face & misplaced it.His idea of a revision was to do the same thing to my other ear, to make them look alike.. I won't go into it all here, but feel free to personally email me& I will prove to you the deception I was subjected to. An intelligent man/doctor as you, will see that. Again, I am sorry you were subjected to that here, as we do come here to share& not rip people apart.. Even as a patient who has been in pain for 3+ years, you are as welcome here as anyone else. There are good and bad in all walks of life, please disregard the ignorant posts.
Bits 19 Feb 2010
Dr P, If you find the time, could you click on my link so that I can ask some questions i consider private? Thanks
truecolors 10 Mar 2010
Dear Dr. Prendiville, Thank you for your well-worded posting about LSL. It frightens me to think that I almost fell for LSL's TV ads while I was visiting family in big-city Austin TX (LSL doesn't broadcast ads where I live, in little-town USA--LSL only goes for the big markets. It's all about marketing and profits). But what frightens me most about LSL is that the LSL surgeons KNOW that LSL employs unethical marketing techniques, AND these surgeons KNOW that LSL hires SALESpeople upfront, on a commission basis, to get patients to sign on for LSL surgery in the first place. This really frightens me! I've had well-reputed plastic surgeons tell me that certain procedures aren't appropriate for me even though it cost them consultation time with no $ return. BUT GOOD SURGEONS DO THIS--THEY CARE ABOUT DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PATIENT. The idea that LSL surgeons would even tolerate LSL's practice whereby SALESPEOPLE are paid a commission to get patients to sign on for COSMETIC procedures? That is frighteningly unethical! So, although I respect Dr. Diaz for coming on to this forum to share his opinions, I cannot reconcile in my mind Dr. Diaz's willingness to work for a company--LSL--where marketing practices mislead unsuspecting people into surgeries which don't deliver what they promise, and worse.
ElleJey 21 Feb 2010
Wow. Interesting comments from everyone, and I suppose I am glad to read this after some of the comments were removed. Having been through a few cosmetic surgery procedures, I can say from experience - that no matter where you go for your surgery, whether it is in-patient, out-patient (aren't they all these days? Don't you either have to go home or to a separate after-care facility after an elective procedure? I don't know of any cosmetic surgeons that use hospitals for elective procedures or admission for recovery - as it is too cost prohibitive for the patient).. Regardless - no matter what you have done - a minor repair to a gash on the face, an eyelid lift, lower face lift - whatever. Regardless of the procedure, it is still SURGERY. What else do you expect but to have to recover. And did any of you actually read the consents prior to your procedure? I haven't been to a LSL facility, but for them to be in business, they most definitely covered their bases with those consents. So things like numbness near and around the incision, tightness in the skin... those are NORMAL. Hell, I basically had a tummy tuck almost ten years ago and the area around the incision is STILL numb. But my abs look FABULOUS. And I got what I asked for. I had a breast augmentation and lift (after nursing virtually ruined my breasts), and believe me - I would LOVE to get them fixed... but I'm not bashing the doctor who did it. I went in, I looked at his before and afters, I made my choice. He did an OKAY job, but over all, I got what I asked for. And, let's face it. We are vain creatures. And we don't like to be uncomfortable. But in the end, we have to take some of the responsibility here. Where any of you told you would NOT have scars or recovery? Sheesh... I wrapped my boobs for 6 months and wore silicone strips on my tummy scars just as long... even though the docs said 1 month was fine. I had lipo once too, and the body stocking they give you - I wore that under my clothes for three months - even though six weeks was the minimum. They all agreed that more would only help - so I did my part. Surgery of ANY KIND is basically trauma to the body. You will have to recover. And everyone's body does so at its own pace, and in its own way. And, I'm sorry, but I'd be leary of ANY doctor on here that jumps on the band wagon against another practitioner or facility. I know many surgeons, and if they are not being ethical at all times and refraining from blanket comments against another, I HIGHLY suspect they are sharks and want to gain patients of their own. Anyway - good discussion here... and very interesting. I just couldn't stay quiet because I have had long recovery - and not known the full benefits of the results for a almost five years afterward... that's just how my body chose to process everything...

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