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Upper and Lower Blepharoplasty with Endoscopic Brow Lift - Raleigh, NC

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It has been a while since I updated this review. I am still in the "unsure" if this was worth it category. I am not entirely happy with my results. From the results I have seen on this website, I would categorize mine as so-so. While the asymetry is not entirely noticeable, I see it. After paying a so-called "expert" $10k, my expectations were higher than my outcome. I will see Dr. Stein again for his opinion. I have consulted with two occular plastic specialists in the area. One feels Dr. stein took fat out of my upper lid and the other feels he left a bit of skin that needs to be removed. I am still not sure I want to undergo a revision, once was traumatic enough! Thank you all for your comments and notes. Your positive feedback kept me going during these months of uncertainty. I experienced a bout of depression due to this experience. I am heartened by the positive outcomes so many of you have experienced. Keep posting!

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December 21, 2014
I want to start out by saying you look really good. However, I read this post several times through the year, studied your pictures and still can't see how on earth a brow lift was called for. Your brows were fairly high already and, if they had been pulled down a small amount, still would have been high. Can totally see why you wanted the bleph. I'll be having the brow life only. And, trust me, I *do* need it. my brows have slipped under the bony orbital rim making some of the hairs actually point downward. Guess you're lucky that it turned out so well, considering you didn't need it to start. Thank you for so candidly sharing all your thoughts and progress. It's given me pause to even do a surgery I not only need cosmetically but for vision. My insurance has even agreed to pay for it. Now that's bad :-) I think all of us should not be nearly so cavalier about proceeding with cosmetic surgery. Very few women are as brave and unguarded as you are when things don't go well. I applaud you for helping us all out, here.
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December 22, 2014
Thank you for your comments along my journey. I hope your browlift goes well. My brows have indeed gone back to a more normal position. Even though this browlift was probably unnecessary, it did smooth out my forehead wrinkles! I'm glad my posts were helpful to you. Good luck and Happy Holidays!
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December 29, 2014
I noticed your nice forehead. In the long run you'll save a LOT of money on botox if you were concerned about your forehead lines. I pay between $300 and $400 every 3 months to keep mine at bay. I had them for years but once you get rid of them with botox you can't stand seeing them come back in 3 months so you just keep paying. I used to wear bangs to cover my whole forehead before botox, haha. Your forehead is perfect!
December 22, 2014
I think you look beautiful. It looks like your brows have dropped a lot since your surgery. I can imagine how you feel after going to this "expert" and paying 10,000.....I too would expect close to perfection. I think I would even get another opinion especially since two doctors have 2 totally different opinions on your previous surgery outcome. Happy Holidays !!
December 22, 2014
I think u look great.
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December 22, 2014
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words.
December 22, 2014
Hi Net...If a skin only excision of the left eye would even things out...that's a pretty simple procedure in office and under local, isn't it? Do both doctors concur on why the incision placement was different? And did they both concur with the need for a brow lift? And how has Dr Stein felt about the results. I, once upon a time did consult in person with him as I considered several procedures. I think you look great but it is all about how you feel....grace
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December 22, 2014
Thanks Grace. I was told by both occular PS's that the incision placement is dictated by the amount of skin needing removal, the shape of the eyes and that no two eyes are alike. I had more overhang over my right eye than my left. Also, they both told me facial docs approach things differently than occular PS's and each has their own approach regarding the brow lifts. That is evident by the differing responses here on RS. Thank you for the compliments. I feel that with a little tweak, my expectations will hopefully be met. Happy Holidays!
December 23, 2014
Your lower eyes are to die for and they were before the surgery (he thankfully didn't screw them up). They are slanted up so much and that is a big plus in creating a youthful eye. Were the 2 oculos thinking of taking off some skin on each eye or only on the left to even them up? And as for the brow, don't the oculos also DO brow lift? I have talked several months ago and he does eyes and also endo brow. Btw, has all the feeling returned to the scalp? And one more ques..do the 2 docs you talked with do their upper eye work under local and in office? Happy Holidays to you to. This yr should be a lot easier one for you! grace
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December 23, 2014
Removing just a little skin on the left to even them out. Stein said the same thing, but to wait until after the one year mark. Things did settle down more over the last six months. And yes, everyone does uppers under local in the office. And I do have all the feeling back on my scalp. That is all back to normal now. Thanks again for your comments.
December 23, 2014
I think you look great! I had an upper blep 5 months ago and have a what I consider to be a great deal of asymmentry. I also have been dealing with bouts of depression. I also have pain in one eye daily which is a constant reminder. I went for a second opinion but I am afraid of making things worse. My original surgeon offered to lift my brow on one side and lower the other crease. Uh, that would be a NO. I think you look perfect and the asymmentry is so mild that you are probably the only one who notices. Check out pictures of Ashley Judd, that beautiful, beautiful woman. Bet you never noticed the asymmetry in her upper lids! Leave yours alone. Enjoy your new look, you deserve it after all that stress and anxiety. Merry Christmas!
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6 months post

22 weeks, I think

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Things are still changing, but I guess that is true even if you have not had surgery. My left eye is still giving me some dry eye problems. It is not terrible, but still a bit worrisome. I have made an appointment with the eye doc to check it out. I have to wait a month for the appointment! I still feel a little right is one spot over my right eyebrow, if I rub it, it feels better. I saw an 86 year old lady yesterday and we compared our blephs! She thought mine looked good, her's was fabulous! We agreed the process was more traumatic than we thought it was going to be. But one does heal eventually.

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May 3, 2014
You look fantastic. Now wish I would have had the brow lift as well. Quick question, I am trying to write review and it has still not uploaded after three days, wtf? LOL Did it take you awhile for your first review to post? I love the pics, you really do look bright eyed and bushy tailed :)
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May 4, 2014
I think my first review posted right away. I was pretty loopy for several weeks after surgery, so I could be dreaming that up. I used this site as a daily blog for the first month. I cannot believe it's been almost 6 months. Whew! And thank you for your encouragement.
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May 4, 2014
Hi Jen, I was going to post some words of encouragement on your review, but I guess it hasn't posted yet. Hang in there! Rest and take care of yourself so you will heal.
May 3, 2014
Was just looking at your before pic, and WOW what a difference. You look bright and sunny :) I am three days after surgery and I am wondering if I did the right thing only because I have a little bump on side of crows feet where PS went all the way with the stiches. My eyes feel so tight, I cannot wait to get these stiches out Monday morning.
May 4, 2014
Hi! I have a question. Did your PS use stiches on upper eyelids and tie them together ..or how was your stiching done? Thanks...
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May 4, 2014
Hi Jen, I had regular stitches that were removed after a week. I'm not sure I understand your question about having them ties together. I had separate stitches on each upper eyelid. I had transconjunctive lowers, so no stitches there. I hope that answers your question. I hope you are coming along with your healing process!
May 4, 2014
That answers my question. I have stiches that are tied together as they go along my upper lid. I may not sound too factual as I just took a pain med and had a glass of wine, HA. I am still feeling loopy as I am only four days post surgery. I just am concerned about scarring along incision line, as the stiching is tied together, will that leave a starburst affect? Anyway, I am not too worried yet. Was getting depressed earlier so my husband poured me a glass of wine and told me to relax, lol. I have a small bump near my crows feet area, which I actually did not want them to go so far out into the crows feet area as I like my little laugh lines. Trying to post a picture to show you but realself has not uploaded that yet. Thank you for your feedback! I really appreciate it.....
May 4, 2014
Thanks for the reminder that healing will eventually occur. This waiting process is difficult though! Looks like one of my eyes is healing at a completing different rate than the other -- it's either that or my PS forgot to take part of the bag out! Arrgh! Again, many thanks for your updates!
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May 4, 2014
You are welcome. I hope you are doing well.
May 12, 2014
You LOOK FABULOUS! One of the best I've seen so far. I'm researching having this done. Just the eyelid part. Looks great, I'm in NC also. Thank you so much for sharing.
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May 13, 2014
Thank you for the positive comments. It has been quite an experience. Good luck to you!
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I am now past the 5 month mark. I am still unsure if this was worth the trouble. I am glad to have this forum to vent. Thanks for reading my rants. I saw some friends that I haven't seen in 6 months and they asked me if I changed my hair, which Inhave. Lesson learned, if you do a cosmetic procedure, change your hair. That is what people notice! I still have a small bump at the end of one scar, but for the most part, the scars have faded. I don't have to put cover up on them any more. My forehead still feels like I have tape on it at the end of the day.

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April 23, 2014
The comment about changing your hair literally made me laugh so hard. I had eyelid surgery two months ago, and I have had the exact same comment made to me. I think you look really good. And it IS hard, because going into surgery, I don't think we were expecting the changes to keep changing. I thought once I felt normal (and I actually feel great) I would be back to normal. But my eyes really do have subtle changes everyday. So, like you, I am so thankful for this forum, to know this is normal.
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April 24, 2014
I am so glad I made you laugh. Got keep a sense of humor about this stuff. Maybe I'll get a tattoo next;)
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April 24, 2014
Great idea, NC! I was thinking of getting my nose pierced to take the attention off my asymmetrical eyes.
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April 24, 2014
Bahahahahahahahah! That was on my list too. And maybe a brow ring or tongue piercing? That would go over very well in banking!
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April 24, 2014
That's it! Maybe a brow ring over my sagging left eye to draw the eye upward.
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April 24, 2014
i found that a lot of bling jewelry has the same effect. i made swarovski crystal matching earrings and necklaces in every color. takes the eyes right off your eyes, hahahaha.
April 23, 2014
You look great. I am surprised you are unsure if it was worth the trouble? I go in for to have my upper eyelids done on Wednesday. I am so nervous I am wondering if I am doing the right thing? No backing out now as I have already committed. Feeling unsure in Indiana....
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April 24, 2014
If you are committed and there's no backing out then there's no sense being nervous anymore. I liken it to giving birth. When the time comes to go into labor there's no backing out so why be nervous about it. It just puts more stress on your body. I was extremely nervous up until about a week before when I knew I was committed at that point and I was not backing out. Keep yourself busy getting everything ready and get your house clean so you can rest a lot afterward. It all went fine for me and it will for you too.
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April 24, 2014
Eyedidit gives excellent advice. You cannot help but be nervous. Stay busy with preparations. If you are just having an upper Bleph under local, you will be up and at 'em quickly. Eat well, rest well and take care of yourself and you will be just fine:)
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April 24, 2014
I think if you didn't have the brow lift you wouldn't feel that it was so much trouble. Your eyes look great and the feeling of all the trouble will probably fade and you'll just enjoy your results. Like I said before - the brow lift will more than likely be worth it in the long run too because looking at my brow it looks like I could use one. I'm just too chicken to go that far. I know it took a long time for them to settle but they look like they're in a perfect position now. Sorry it feels like tape. I know how aggravating something like that can be. I cut a nerve in my finger and I hate that it has no feeling. My finger feels weird. Hopefully that weird feeling on your forehead goes away.
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April 24, 2014
You have it the nail on the head, or brow... The browlift was more traumatic than I imagined. And all the docs and a few commenters doubting the need for it really cast doubt upon the credibility of my PS. Even though everything he has told me would happen has happened. It is amazing how one can just seize on negativity! Thank you Eyedidit, you are good and bringing me back to reality! Mostly, my frustration at this point is with the eyelid that will need a revision. This is nerve wracking business, and I am not looking forward to having my eyelid sliced up again!
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April 24, 2014
are you talking about the extra wrinkle? i seem to have a row of extra skin/wrinkling towards the inside of both my lids. hopefully mine doesn't need a revision. i haven't figured out if that's how it was intended or he didn't take enough. the outer edges of my lids don't have that. i know it's only been 3 weeks but it doesn't appear to be shrinking. i think you can see what i mean on my close up pics.
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April 24, 2014
i just went to look at my recent pics and it looks like the extra skin i'm talking about goes across the whole lid but in the mirror it looks to me like there's more towards the center, the outers have less of a fold .
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April 27, 2014
your crows feet before were not as long as mine. mine are like 3 inches, lol. i don't think the brow lift would work on mine. i think i'll stick with botox for the forehead and forget about my crows feet.
December 20, 2014
Just read thru your entire post and was wondering if you ever went back and tweaked the eye that had the extra fold in it. I also had an upper bleph an both eyes are doing this. I am post op of approximately 9 weeks. Just wondering if it ever resolved on its own or if you got it fixed or if you just left it alone. Thank you!! I see so much of myself in your chronicles.