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Hyaluronidase to Reverse Restylane Bags - AU
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I had restalane under my eyes. I had it done...
refresh26August 29, 2014
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I had restalane under my eyes. I had it done previously just in the tear trough and loved it. This time I had a little more injected under the eye which in retrospect I probably did not need. My skin I found was extremely delicate. I swelled and bruised which is common with me and after weeks there was still a I've-been-crying-puffy-eye look it wasn't really bad but made me look like I needed a sleep-something I wasn't exactly going for!
I tried anti allegy medicine etc but i just hold too much water in my eyes and was not really appropriate for me. ( I get puffy eyes in morning etc)
I was a little apprehensive about getting hyluronidase done due to mixed reviews but I felt safe in my injectors hands she is extremely experienced and cares a lot. She followed me up and I came back in and she partially injected the hyaluronidase leaving the tear trough. I bruised of course :( by the end of the day the swelling had significantly gone done. By the morning they looked great and back to normal. Yay!
She recommended I try collagen plasma therapy (aka vampire facelift) for condition of the under eyes instead. '"Vampire Facelift" is a procedure that involves withdrawing a patient's own blood, processing it to create "platelet-rich plasma (PRP)," then re-injecting it to erase wrinkles and create a more youthful look'. And suggested sticking to retylane just in the tear trough area.
I tried anti allegy medicine etc but i just hold too much water in my eyes and was not really appropriate for me. ( I get puffy eyes in morning etc)
I was a little apprehensive about getting hyluronidase done due to mixed reviews but I felt safe in my injectors hands she is extremely experienced and cares a lot. She followed me up and I came back in and she partially injected the hyaluronidase leaving the tear trough. I bruised of course :( by the end of the day the swelling had significantly gone done. By the morning they looked great and back to normal. Yay!
She recommended I try collagen plasma therapy (aka vampire facelift) for condition of the under eyes instead. '"Vampire Facelift" is a procedure that involves withdrawing a patient's own blood, processing it to create "platelet-rich plasma (PRP)," then re-injecting it to erase wrinkles and create a more youthful look'. And suggested sticking to retylane just in the tear trough area.
UPDATED FROM refresh26
29 days post
the healing process
refresh26September 25, 2014
I would like to add incase people are wondering ( an also I was a bit scared about) I had what looked like creepiness under the eyes, a slight sagging a few more wrinkles. lots of bruising-one part under one eye that looked like discolouration and lasted a long time. this all resolved. It took a couple or weeks I would say 4 to come back to completely normal as I had before. it slowly started getting better. I had bright red tiny blood vessels burst this also resolved.
I did not have too much restylane in the first place and I am 28yrs I am not sure if this makes a difference ... I just wanted to post this incase anyone was a bit worried about the condition under the eye post treatment as I admit I was a little bit concerned about it.
I did not have too much restylane in the first place and I am 28yrs I am not sure if this makes a difference ... I just wanted to post this incase anyone was a bit worried about the condition under the eye post treatment as I admit I was a little bit concerned about it.
Replies (48)
September 25, 2014
I am having a similar situation, with Belotero. Last year was beautiful- this time, first under filled ( didn't see any improvement, but rather a lump under 1 eye) and injector added. The volume looked great when I left the office but then proceeded to swell and what I thought was brushing I now think is Tyndall effect. So afraid of the reversal process as my injector said it was all or nothing, like there was no option to inject a small amount. I am going back for evaluation tomorrow (3 woks post 2nd injections). Should I be asking for a small amount, provided free of charge? I am thinking the injector either too superficially placed or overfilled especially since I had a great result the first time. This is very discouraging. Any advice?
September 28, 2014
Hi there. Sorry you are having such a problem with filler under the eyes. I know there are people on this site who have had good results with hyaluronidase but I did not so I am unable to recommend that you use it. Send a private message to PhilaSkeptic or biggyc. Both of them had good results with dissolving filler under the eyes. Perhaps they can ask their doctors which brand was used, the dilution that was used and how much was used. I think a dilution ratio of 100U/10ml is what was used on me. Apparently this is very dilute. One tiny injection - diabolical result. Best of luck to you. Please let us know what you choose to do. K
September 28, 2014
10ml it's a lot ... my PS have use 1ml for both eyes ... !!! and she use hylase ... what's was yours? it is really 10ml for both eyes?
September 28, 2014
No - not 10mls. Please see my previous post. Less than 1 ml was used in total. The dilution ratio is just as important as the amount. A small amount of strong hyalase could be just as bad as a large amount of weak hyalase. Do you know the dilution ratio of your hyalase? Was it strong? Was it weak? All doctors seem to use different strengths of hyalase.
September 30, 2014
I can't emphasize this enough. Never have another procedure from any doctor who gave you a bad result. In fact, never have a procedure from anyone you are not very confident about. The people who always have good results have followed this. Of course there are many other factors in choosing a practitioner.
October 1, 2014
I think the under eye filler problem really is unique because it seems like most under eye filler has turned out bad, which is not the case with any other procedure I know of. I have heard that nowadays noses are usually done at least twice, but sometimes it's just a tweaking of the first procedure. Also, with under eye or lower eye orbit filler, we have what half the people on this thread have -- bad results with correction of the filler. I have followed the cosmetic procedure millieu since the 1960's and steadily since the 1990's. i never followed much about body work, especially tummy tucks because I dont' think I'll ever need that one. Really though I've never seen problems anything like the magnitude of under eye fillers. Do an exhaustive research on every new procedure being considered, even minor ones. Also, it's good to research even previously performed procedures just to make sure there are no newly recognized problems, and to keep pace with newer techniques involved with it. Not good relying 100% on any doctor.
September 27, 2014
Went to dr for follow up. Suggested add more voluma back in to fill out loose skin. lol! Definately hard to do when Iv spent months trying to fix an overfill. Does anyone have any feed back on how to heal mentally after going through this traumatizing experience??? Not sure adding more voluma will do just that......
September 27, 2014
I really don't know if you should do any more Voluma. Loose skin is a problem but Voluma can just cause more problems. I think badly placed Voluma can CAUSE loose skin because it takes all the natural tension out of your skin due to the wrong areas being puffed up etc. I am sure that has happened to me. The Voluma is simply in the wrong place and way too much of it in the wrong place so it has given me a flat round face which should be sharp. When I lift my face to smile it looks ghastly because all the areas of loose skin show up. If my face is completely at rest only the horrible eyebags show from the dissolving disaster. The whole thing is a nightmare and I am as sick of it as you are!! There should be a clinic for people recovering from crap injectables. Somewhere on a remote island so we can all just commiserate together out of the public eye. Ugh! I am just leaving my poor face alone. I see the oculoplastic surgeon on 25 Nov about my eyes so I'll see where it is at then. What are you going to do? More Voluma? Or leave it?
September 27, 2014
Also remember that we develop a bit of an "obsession" with our faces when they go wrong as well as a nostalgia for the old face, because of a heightened consciousness of the new look that we perceive to be unpleasant. Also, other people do not notice it nearly as much as you do AND it is not nearly as bad as you think.
September 28, 2014
yeah that's the main problem that you fix on it and look every second on your eyes and see what's wrong ... !!! and before you done the filler you don't conside so much like now and don't see the problems so much on your old eyes like now because is a obsession ... !!! i know for you and me it doesn't look good and lot's of people don't notice something .... so you develope a
September 28, 2014
It's so true! We are too hard on ourselves and too focused on one thing. I too am obsessed with how my eyes look all the time. I check them constantly. And I am usually upset by what I see. It is very psychologically damaging that's for sure. I wish I could just move on and not care but I really can't. It's a nightmare!
September 28, 2014
I have an appointment with an oculoplastic surgeon on 25 November about a possible lower blepharoplasty. I cannot stand the puffy eye bags and wrinkled, loose skin under my eyes. It looks awful! Are you thinking about having surgery? Have you seen any improvement at all?
September 28, 2014
but i'm 27 years ... so i don't know how about think eye-lower sugery ... !!! i see a little bit improvement but it don't looks like before .... nobody notice just like me .... !!! and that's kill me ... sometimes it looks like before but sometimes not ... ! you write your PS use 10ml hylase for your eyes ??? it is true?
September 28, 2014
My reference is to dilution ratio not amount. A dilution ration of 100 units of hyaluronidase dissolved in 10ml of saline. Only a tiny amount was injected under my eyes. Let me know if you see any improvent!
September 28, 2014
I would get at least one more consultation, preferably at least two. I strongly at least two oculoplastic specialists who have a reputation for successful treatment of unsuccessful/undesirable filler results to the lower eyelids and tear trough. I don't know the level of difficulty finding this in Australia. You want a doctor so good that if you're unhappy with the results, there is no other practitioner who could have done better. It's hard to be that objective but it's essential to be when you're having anything done that has more than a negligible amount of risk.
September 29, 2014
WAIT!!! I had voluma injected on May 12th, and five months later I look like I could be in a horror movie.........when I told my surgeon I was disgusted and horrified from the results he told me he was sorry but the only thing he could offer was possibly more voluma! I left y he office determined to get my money back. I would never use this product for anything except the bump in my nose. It fixed that fine.
September 29, 2014
I am praying someone finds a cure for the Voluma disasters! I hate how I look now. I only come out with layers of dermablend on. I have decided to wait it out. But I amtired aafter five months of the nightmare...
September 29, 2014
I am a patient person and I am happy to travel so I will take your good advice.
September 29, 2014
Hi Darkeyecircles - I am probably the last person you would expect to suggest it, but you really might want to consider the Vitrase. Honestly, the ordinary Juvederm Ultra I had under my eyes lasted 5 years and would have kept going except it got dissolved. Voluma is much thicker and differently cross linked than Juverderm Ultra so it will last even longer than that. You are seriously looking at many, many years of those black lines.
September 29, 2014
I second what KP72 said. I don't know of anyone who was successful with any hyaluronic acid filler to bring up loose skin. Perhaps fat would be better. I think the fillers normally fill in shallow depressions (for example nasiolabial folds) and puff up and lift sagging tissue. Skin alone may need some type of lasering or surgery as a last resort. Get multiple consults with the best doctors who have the greatest experience and success with your type of problem in your area of the face, in this case the under eye area. I suggest at least one oculoplastic consult for any problem on the face.
KP, good luck with the oculo surgeon. I always feel better when I merely am taking a step to try to help myself. Doing nothing and wondering how long to wait is really horrible (but we need to do it sometimes for a while, as you know.)
September 29, 2014
KP, that's right. If we can get to the point once in a while where we get dressed up a little, do something a little fancier with our hair and last but not least -- smile, some people may think we look pretty good. :)
September 29, 2014
It's natural to some to look to the same doctor for the fix as the one who disfigured, but if a doctor does one bad procedure, best to avoid that doctor from now on. A really good doctor may do a procedure that's not as complete as you like or not quite as nice as you like, but will never disfigure or do anything improperly. The only way a really good doctor has a bad result is when the patients body reacts negatively to some aspect of the procedure and that is rare.
September 29, 2014
darkeye, my only regret getting my filler dissolved is that I waited longer than I needed to. If voluma is said to last two years max, I would not wait much longer than that. I don't know of anyone whose filler dissolved on it's own after the max time it's supposed to last.
September 30, 2014
It was done in 2009 and five years later it was still there. It looked good. I did not want it dissolved. The doctor dissolved it without my consent. I have made a complaint.
September 30, 2014
Watching a bad filler result wear off is like watching paint dry or the kettle boil. I am absolutely hating it. Honestly hating it. And the permanent damage from the hyaluronidase is not helping. It makes me massively depressed. I am so worried about making everything worse.
September 30, 2014
I have had many problems in life, serious ones. I have had very little money in my life until the last 20 years and felt I had a relatively normal life only because I lived with other people almost all that time and I paid no rent and very little for food. I have not even worked enough to get my own social security benefits. I have lived and in fact now live like a semi-shut in, due to lack of transportation. Also I've had my appearance issues which started to become signtificant at about age 32. Through all this, plus what i'm going through currently, I realized that my problems are temporary. The only problems I have now are relatively new ones, except for the transportation and leftover appearance issues. Even problems I thought I may be stuck with are gone, such as having 0 confidence. That resolved on it's own. I even have plans to get out of my hermit-like lifestyle. I hope everyone on here can believe they are going through a bad phase. If there is a realistic option, even if there is only one, probably eventually that will work out for everyone on here. Hope that helps.
October 1, 2014
Thanks for the good advice. You are right. This horrible time is a phase and it will pass. I am surprised that you are a bit of a hermit. You are so smart and insightful and you read as very confident. You should get out and about to share those insights with the world! Let me know if you are ever heading towards Australia...
October 3, 2014
KP...I too was worried that Vitrase would make mine worse. I kept telling myself "It's only cosmetic and if it doesn't work out just keep looking for a solution" in so many words. If I had gotten a bad result from the Vitrase, I would still keep searching. As time goes on, many more people are going to come forth with this problem. My doctor had done a piece on a tv show about correcting bad fillers. I have yet to see anything in the media about bad hyaluronidase, but maybe there will be something. Have you had any luck with google searches on your issue?
October 3, 2014
Yes - lots of people get the same horrible result as me unfortunately. I also think the amount of time the filler had been in place makes a big difference because it never fully goes away unless dissolved. I think it completely integrates with tissue over time but it leaves a scaffolding and the body knows it's not real tissue. So much of my lower eyelids dissolved with the hyaluronidase that I was unrecognisable. It also did not help that my face was so swollen and altered at the time by the cheek Voluma. It all just caved inwards from the massive volume in my cheeks. The refill is now also swollen and honestly I look sick. My step-daughter says I look like I have been wearing sunglasses too much because my face is red and swollen (like sunburn) but around my eyes are white, puffy bags. Ugh! Will this never go away?! I am just waiting it out at the moment because everything I try just seems to create more and more problems. These cosmetic procedures are sold as safe, easy and effective and, in the case of HA filler, reversible with no issue. That's totally untrue. Look at all if us with problems. It can't all be injector error. Some if it has to be the products!
September 29, 2014
newyearnewnoze suze what do you mean when you said she partially injected? my injector said this is an all or nothing process, which is why I just might, after reading many scary stories, opt to leave as is and wear my glasses in public until the puffiness subsides. Incidentally, I found that I had a sinus infection that was contributing to the bad outcome and once I started antibiotics and nasal sprays to decongest the mucus from my sinuses, the swelling went down quite a bit. I am holding out hope that this will solve my issues, but still considering the option of dissolving if needed.
October 21, 2014
well it is kind of all or nothing to a certain extent. meaning I had to at least get from the middle to outwards dissolved and not really targeting an area. she just didn't inject around the trough. it is unpredictable how much will dissolve but your injector is right it is all or nothing. most of mine disappeared even though she stayed away from the tear trough, there was some but not like it was before. Hope that helps :)
October 26, 2019
I have spent years dealing with this & finally found a dr who knows exactly what it is. It's an allergic reaction & once you have it you need to have it all removed soon. Find a dr who clearly understands this allergy, can slowly remove all traces. I'm in the midst & interestingly with each injection will get swelling as the filler dissolved it causes reactions. Use laser around your eyes after to help shape them & fix skin issues. many drs tried the ' use allergy meds', or "it's your sinuses" ect but when you find a dr who admits that filler causes horrible reactions in many women ( worse if you've used filler 4 yrs or more) you'll finally get relief.
UPDATED FROM refresh26
4 months post
Second time using hyalurondaise...
refresh26December 14, 2014
You think I would learn after the first lot of restylane but thought for some reason if I just did the tear trough and half the amount I would be fine..not so much. I did get really concerned about getting it dissolved and I was so confused as to what was causing this dark line..its looked like a dark line but may have been swelling, it wasn't blue more brown or grey..anyhow I was so self conscious I decided to get it dissolved once again. The Dr used the tiniest amount and said she would uses a very small dose not to dissolve my own HA and we would go from there, I think it has mostly dissolved and even if it hasn't I am waiting to out for anything else as it is a LOT better than it was. it at least looks normal now.. whats 6 months to dissolve a smidge :) I also took a supplement Hyaluronidase Acid (oral pill) to help any loss of HA..thought it might help anyway. I also stocked up on silica, vit a and all the skin supplements in case. Another thing to add is she suggested I check my iron because i bruise so easily I took an iron supplement and interestingly I did not bruise this time around.
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January 4, 2015
I am surprised I did not briuse with my hyaluronidase because I briuse easily but maybe not as much as you. Let us know in 6 mos. please if the entire issue resolved.
May 19, 2018
The "dark line" you're referring to is exactly what I got. I've had it for 2 and a half years now after Restylane. It's not blue, but more gray in appearance, and it's not gone away. I did microneedling at home 2 months ago and it has helped a bit, but I think there's still filler. How are your eyes now? Did the dark line go away? Did the hyaluronidase remove it? I'm so desperate..
February 29, 2020
I am weary to any filler under my eyes again for he same reason but I had Juvaderm dissolved. Restylane worked well but I used Restylane first and tried Juvaderm the second time. It has been a while and I can see mine, still. My skin tone is olive so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it.
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