“Eyeliner Tattoo, Wanted a Natural Look (In Brown) Came out with a Really Harsh Black Eyeliner Tattoo - Sydney, Australia”

Permanent eyeliner is an uncomfortable procedure in the best of cases, but removal, and I do removal in my clinic...is not nice......
We always touch up, even if its black.....its expected to have a touch up or you wont get the longevity, I hope the removal worked and that youre feeling better.
A word to readers Permanent Make is PERMANENT, please, do not compromise on what you want! Do not allow anyone to talk you into anything that youre not 100% on board with. WALK OUT if youre feeling pushed into something you dont want!

Now I'm scared. I'm booked in to this clinic in 2 days to have eyeliner and brows done. Can't cancel either because they charge you the full amount if you don't keep the appointment! Had lips done this week and am pretty happy with them, but after seeing this post I'm terrified of having the eyes done! What should I do???
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Charging you the full amount if you cancel is not on... I'm sure against Consumer Affairs regulations. Just shows how money hungry this woman (Janesse) is. If you do go ahead with it, insist on a brown and make sure that you get to see that it is brown before she starts on you. If she uses black it is a blue black which will turn blue as it ages. She does not use a brown black and doesn't like to use brown as it doesn't "take" on everyone as well as black and she would need to fix this at her expense at the follow up appointement. The follow up appointment is included in the cost but I'll tell you right now they have no problems if you don't turn up to this... they won't even remind you about it.

Thanks for your reply. I do agree that charging the full cost of the procedure even if you cancel is wrong, but she makes you sign to say you understand this - silly me, I signed. The forms also state that any alterations at follow-up, including lightening,darkening, etc. incur a further cost, which also rang alarm bells. Hmm, not sure what to do now. My gut says "run" but my wallet says don't lose your money. Guess I will just have to do it, but I will definitely take your advice and check on the colour first! Keep your fingers crossed for me.

My gut said run too, and I had a really bad feeling the day before! She is very convincing. She got me to sign the forms saying that we'd talked everything through the minute I got in there... she said it was just procedure and that of course we would discuss everything before starting. But we didn't, and next thing I know I'm being tattooed. I know that sounds dumb of me, but she is really good at convincing.

Maybe ring up department of consumer affairs and check to see if she has a right to keep the money. Even though you signed the form she hasn't actually performed any services, I can't imagine she has a legal right to keep ALL the money.

If you do decide to go ahead with it, just be really really strong about you want. Good luck!!!

Thank you so much. I know what you mean, I was also given all the forms to sign without any discussion or explanation at all. In fact, I said to my friend who came with me that I felt I was signing an awful lot of disclaimers. She asked me if I felt confident and I actually said "no, not at all". But you're right, they are very good at whisking you in there and getting started before you have a chance to realise what's happening. Not good practice. Anyway, I will be checking with consumer affairs and if I can stop her debiting my credit card for the balance, I might just cancel the whole thing.
Cheers,
Mary
PS - did you get yours re-done somewhere else after your removal (which looked painful, by the way)?

No I'm not brave enough to go anywhere to get it done again! I was actually supposed to go back and get the laser removal done again as it can take a few goes before it comes off. But one session was enough to soften the line, and I really can't put myself through the pain again. It was easier when I didn't know how painful it would be! If I look under a magnifying mirror I can see some bright blue bits which is scary as I don't know how blue it will get as I get older. I might consider getting something done over the blue if it gets noticeable, but for now I can live with it.

If she only has your credit card and hasn't charged it yet, it might just as easy to cancel the credit card.

Mary, if it doesn't feel right its not! RUN! I can understand charging a consultation fee and taking it off the price of the treatment if you go ahead but charging for the full procedure is not right as the client should be able to walk out right up to the time you put the needle in. This is not something that can be rushed, every milimiter counts an needs to be done according to what the client wants!

Mustik, how long ago did you have your eyeliner done? Has it healed completely? Its always very harsh when its first done, I say to my clients that they will walk out looking like Cleopatra! However, there's a long way between black and brown..... Eyeliners do fade really quickly...so in a couple of months it should look a lot more natural! Best of luck!

Hi Mustik & DermaEraze,
Thought I'd let you know how I got on since I had my eyeliner and brows done today at Skin Medics. I was a little more than apprehensive after all our conversations, so went in there determined to have all my questions answered and get what I wanted done. But I must say, the intern who did the work on me (Camilla Braga) is absolutely fantastic! She reassured me by answering all my concerns, agreed to use colours and styles I wanted and took her time doing it bit by bit, asking my approval every step of the way. She was meticulous, so I ended up with a fantastic result. Of course I won't know exactly how it looks for a few weeks yet, but so far I'm very happy as I think I will end up with a very natural looking result, which is what I wanted. Camilla tends to err on the side of caution and prefers to 'under-do' it so that it can be added to if you want. I am now thinking of going back for designer liner. I'm over the moon that it turned out well as I was soooo scared going in there. But as it turns out, I would have no hesitation in recommending Camilla to do semi-perm makeup. I still disagree with their policies about cancellations etc, but fortunately I now feel more confident about going back there to have more work done. PHEW!!!!!

Hi Mary, thanks for updating us. It sounds like you got a really good technitian! There are two things that spell trouble. 1. techinitians without proper training and 2. technitians that have proper training but become arrogant with their skills and dont listen to their clients.
So glad you got a good result! Well done!

hey, i have to say,I have had multiple procedures by janesse, and I am even on their website!! I had retarded eyebrows which she has done twice... and eyeliner once... she is really great, if it wasnt for her I'd still look completely disfigured from my dig bite which left me scarred eyebrows... Im really sorry your treatment didnt work out... did u discuss it with her? I have found that with regards to eyebrows she will get the match just right, never too dark, with regards to eyeliner obviously the brown fades quicker than black, in fact it would be more economical for her to encourage you to get browns because they require more touch ups and therefore more money... but yeah ive just had really good experiences with her and planning to go back soon to get my eyebrows done again as they are fading out a lil after all these years... thats the downside! really its semi permanent... ...Im also wondering did u get designer liner? i hear the designer liner is meant to be a more natural effect... also whenever she has done my tattooing she stops gives me a mirror n checks im happy with what she was doing... did that happen? it seems like u have had the tattoo lasered off already but just to anyone else out there if you are not happy with your tattoo, i recommend you just wait because at first it is very dark then quickly within a few weeks goes much lighter, if you go out in the sun alot it will cause it to fade too... anyway an interesting conversation, perhaps i should post my photos too... ?