Love my permalips

Really? I haven't heard of that.

Thank you, that's nice to know, what good are big lips if they are frowning? Hee hee

Dermatologist can do that.

Yes I have a very talkative green cheek conure named Ollie ... The smallest parrot you can buy without all the dander .. I wanted a Cooktoo the big white one w the Mohawk but they live 65 little to late for us to get one :) Ollie will live up to 25 yrs

That is awesome, I have a baby (8 months) old greenwing macaw that I have hand fed since 3 weeks old. What a trip this bird is. She calls me mommy and talks and wraps her wings around me for a hug, really sweet.

That is too cool ... My uncle has a macaw but wouldn't let me handle him .. Tried to bite me a few times . ... Their beaks are huge and look like they could take a chunk of skin out of your arm .. So I would admire him from a distance lol

I'm still debating what to do. My tunnels were obviously made on my lip liner and not my wet/ dry line. I think he must have had some creative thinking. 2.5 inches does not cover that much area for a full smile. So it covers 2/3rds of both lips off to the left side. I was scheduled to have them redone, but it was cancelled and I'm going in for another visit with him in a few weeks. Be very clear with your doctor where he will cut you. He ended up cutting in the center of my upper lip, so now I have a scar and lump there.

I know :) i never see in all the research and post i do no one is from the area;except one other.... researching and debating another procedure;which is kind of crazy because i know theirs others in the panhandle area who get surgery done...I tell my friends (local/out of state)when they come up and ask me question....depending what they want done who in my opinion to go to since i research like crazy...i become a little to obsess with it, but i want to make sure im very knowledgeable about everything..dr back ground ...reviews procedure...risks etc...my one good friend didn't come to me and told me she regretted because -no name mention, but when a facility does massive advertising and says their the best ...not true...i have 3 friends who had horrific outcomes(one is disfigured as a result) and the other two able to conceal their damage) from this center and from what they have told me the doctor hasn't really helped to much in trying to fix. Knock on wood ive had any bad outcomes.....as far as my lips the top lip didn't start shifting until a couple months ago and doesn't shift all the time just a little and pinch it back....i researched how it can be fixed and what the they do is put a stitch in to try and close the area or remove the implant and put a new one in. If it was constantly shifting through out the day and everyday it would be a bigger deal for me to have it fix....i plan on talking with butler about it ....i see him on the field since hes my sons lacrosse coach usually 3 days a week during practice and at games....He is a great guy and surgeon...He is very compassionate and staff is great too....they check up on you and will answer any questions or concerns.... I know when you read others reviews it makes you anxious and nervous...some girls on her actually hated them and had a horrible time with them, but i think you have to find the right doctor and sometimes it has nothing to do with choice of the doctor but the individual themselves and if they followed post after care to the T....some girls were eating in my opinion foods they probably shouldn't etc...sometimes it just your body is not happy with having a foreign object placed in it...you have to feel comfortable with your decision and take all that you have read and seen into consideration...the reason i decided to go forward even with those that weren't happy and said don't do it.... i knew it was removable and other options with butler like alleroderm...i cant say if my lips would look normal again for sure if they did remove the implant, but the others did not indicate in their reviews that their lips look awful or stretched...but i would have alleroderm put in if the implants didn't work..yes its more money, but i have confidence with Butler to work with me on a resolution because that the type of doctor he is so i felt comfortable (still a little nervous of the unknown happening)..to answer your questions about paying for the fix not sure i think there's a lot of factors that come into play.... i had another procedure done and a redo and wasn't charged for the redo just had to pay hospital and anesthesia....i believe its up to the doctor and your case....keep me posted :)

so sorry to hear your having problems and know that must be frustrating and whats the best possible solution. At this point im not having my upper lip fix because its not that big of deal for me to pinch every once in awhile.....In my first lip augmentation with my own fascia from inside on both sides of the neck my ps did cut the center on top and bottom as well as corners inside my mouth to tread the fascia through and placement...i didn't have any problems with bumps in the middle other during the healing process, but with messaging it breaks up any scar tissue forming and it smoothed out fine...i was very happy with this surgery , but i knew there was a chance that my body could asborb it back or stay completely, but you never know....i wish i did know otherwise i wouldnt have spent the money plus i had to pay for the permalip surgery to refill them vs going back to injections which i did for a long time and wasted tons of money....between all the injection in my lips and two surgeries it cost me little over 10,000.00 (injections every year starting 2007, 1st lip surgery 2010, 2nd Permalip 2012) over the years :(.......Butler doesn't cut in the center of lips for placement just inside corners.....Good luck ... prayers sent your way :)

oops 2013 had permalip surgery(not 2012)....not use to it being 2014 yet and good old brain fart too

Thanks so much. I'll keep you posted!!!

Thank you, that info really helps...... Do you have a before pic? All your pics are after...... Thanks a lot!

I glad to help. That's what we are all here for, right?

No problem ... Wish you luck and butler will do a great job ... He does not cut in the middle so no worries there only inside corners

My main profile pic of me is what my lips look like before the permalips which you can view closet on my profile

Are you getting your lips redone .. How did your consult go .. What did you decide

My consult went wonderful, I thought I put comments on here about it. Anyway, it went great and I love Dr. Butler, perfect mannerism, very knowledgable and seems to care about your needs. Quite honest, which is a very rare commodity in his field. We all like money, but he makes you feel genuinely like he is looking out for you. I paid my deposit and my pre- op is March 13th and my surgery is March 28th, but if anyone cancels they will call me sooner. I can't wait!

No. I'm not getting lips redone. I was getting the juvderm filler about every six months, very costly. Dr. Welch did my lips and I got a co2 fractional done on my face. Dr. Welch is a great dermatologist as well. I went to Dr. Butler due to reviews and his website, and of course his proximity. anyway , I really wanted a bigger mouth but just couldn't keep up with the price not to mention those shots he gives you, they hurt more than my dentist! But I liked Dr. Welch. Hey, does anyone use Latisse for eyelashes? If so I've got some really good info on that product.

Latisse will grow eyelashes no doubt. It is irritating if it gets in your eyes. Once your lashes grow in you can do it for just maintenance once or twice a week.