Love my permalips

I'm still debating what to do. My tunnels were obviously made on my lip liner and not my wet/ dry line. I think he must have had some creative thinking. 2.5 inches does not cover that much area for a full smile. So it covers 2/3rds of both lips off to the left side. I was scheduled to have them redone, but it was cancelled and I'm going in for another visit with him in a few weeks. Be very clear with your doctor where he will cut you. He ended up cutting in the center of my upper lip, so now I have a scar and lump there.

I know :) i never see in all the research and post i do no one is from the area;except one other.... researching and debating another procedure;which is kind of crazy because i know theirs others in the panhandle area who get surgery done...I tell my friends (local/out of state)when they come up and ask me question....depending what they want done who in my opinion to go to since i research like crazy...i become a little to obsess with it, but i want to make sure im very knowledgeable about everything..dr back ground ...reviews procedure...risks etc...my one good friend didn't come to me and told me she regretted because -no name mention, but when a facility does massive advertising and says their the best ...not true...i have 3 friends who had horrific outcomes(one is disfigured as a result) and the other two able to conceal their damage) from this center and from what they have told me the doctor hasn't really helped to much in trying to fix. Knock on wood ive had any bad outcomes.....as far as my lips the top lip didn't start shifting until a couple months ago and doesn't shift all the time just a little and pinch it back....i researched how it can be fixed and what the they do is put a stitch in to try and close the area or remove the implant and put a new one in. If it was constantly shifting through out the day and everyday it would be a bigger deal for me to have it fix....i plan on talking with butler about it ....i see him on the field since hes my sons lacrosse coach usually 3 days a week during practice and at games....He is a great guy and surgeon...He is very compassionate and staff is great too....they check up on you and will answer any questions or concerns.... I know when you read others reviews it makes you anxious and nervous...some girls on her actually hated them and had a horrible time with them, but i think you have to find the right doctor and sometimes it has nothing to do with choice of the doctor but the individual themselves and if they followed post after care to the T....some girls were eating in my opinion foods they probably shouldn't etc...sometimes it just your body is not happy with having a foreign object placed in it...you have to feel comfortable with your decision and take all that you have read and seen into consideration...the reason i decided to go forward even with those that weren't happy and said don't do it.... i knew it was removable and other options with butler like alleroderm...i cant say if my lips would look normal again for sure if they did remove the implant, but the others did not indicate in their reviews that their lips look awful or stretched...but i would have alleroderm put in if the implants didn't work..yes its more money, but i have confidence with Butler to work with me on a resolution because that the type of doctor he is so i felt comfortable (still a little nervous of the unknown happening)..to answer your questions about paying for the fix not sure i think there's a lot of factors that come into play.... i had another procedure done and a redo and wasn't charged for the redo just had to pay hospital and anesthesia....i believe its up to the doctor and your case....keep me posted :)

so sorry to hear your having problems and know that must be frustrating and whats the best possible solution. At this point im not having my upper lip fix because its not that big of deal for me to pinch every once in awhile.....In my first lip augmentation with my own fascia from inside on both sides of the neck my ps did cut the center on top and bottom as well as corners inside my mouth to tread the fascia through and placement...i didn't have any problems with bumps in the middle other during the healing process, but with messaging it breaks up any scar tissue forming and it smoothed out fine...i was very happy with this surgery , but i knew there was a chance that my body could asborb it back or stay completely, but you never know....i wish i did know otherwise i wouldnt have spent the money plus i had to pay for the permalip surgery to refill them vs going back to injections which i did for a long time and wasted tons of money....between all the injection in my lips and two surgeries it cost me little over 10,000.00 (injections every year starting 2007, 1st lip surgery 2010, 2nd Permalip 2012) over the years :(.......Butler doesn't cut in the center of lips for placement just inside corners.....Good luck ... prayers sent your way :)

oops 2013 had permalip surgery(not 2012)....not use to it being 2014 yet and good old brain fart too

Thanks so much. I'll keep you posted!!!

Thank you, that info really helps...... Do you have a before pic? All your pics are after...... Thanks a lot!

I glad to help. That's what we are all here for, right?

No problem ... Wish you luck and butler will do a great job ... He does not cut in the middle so no worries there only inside corners

My main profile pic of me is what my lips look like before the permalips which you can view closet on my profile

Are you getting your lips redone .. How did your consult go .. What did you decide

My consult went wonderful, I thought I put comments on here about it. Anyway, it went great and I love Dr. Butler, perfect mannerism, very knowledgable and seems to care about your needs. Quite honest, which is a very rare commodity in his field. We all like money, but he makes you feel genuinely like he is looking out for you. I paid my deposit and my pre- op is March 13th and my surgery is March 28th, but if anyone cancels they will call me sooner. I can't wait!

No. I'm not getting lips redone. I was getting the juvderm filler about every six months, very costly. Dr. Welch did my lips and I got a co2 fractional done on my face. Dr. Welch is a great dermatologist as well. I went to Dr. Butler due to reviews and his website, and of course his proximity. anyway , I really wanted a bigger mouth but just couldn't keep up with the price not to mention those shots he gives you, they hurt more than my dentist! But I liked Dr. Welch. Hey, does anyone use Latisse for eyelashes? If so I've got some really good info on that product.

Latisse will grow eyelashes no doubt. It is irritating if it gets in your eyes. Once your lashes grow in you can do it for just maintenance once or twice a week.

I know I was paying $129.00 for Latisse. I found the generic which is called Careprost. I pay $11.00 for it through Allday chemist. I buy it 12 at a time cause shipping is $25.00. It works great! I just feel so fortunate that I found this. My eyelashes are awesome and I use Careprost.

The latest news is I'm going in to see the Flagship doctor, so to speak, in Plano. I called Surgisil and told the agent of my experience. She wants to have this doctor look at my lips and she is going to come over from the Surgisil headquarters in Plano, who knew? Right across the highway. It's the big plastic surgery center in north Dallas. So I'm going to get a real good look in two weeks. From the people who know the most and do the most. I think it's a good product. I love having bigger lips. Can't wait to see what they think.

Wow, that will be awesome! Nice of them to do that!

Yes we all like money lol, but its nice to find a genuine ps who puts you first vs the checkbook .. Wow month out .. Crazy .. Everyone is getting ready for summertime I guess and wants to look nice ;)

I went to welch too for Botox and IPL and lip injection 3 a year ... Yes very costly .. Waste of money .. I go destin plastics only for Botox every four months. Once my eyes are healed dr patrinely runs a special all the time 50 units for 490.00 I pay 525.00 for 42 units at destin ... Not sure if I can use 50 units but it saves me 35.00 and gas do its worth it even if I only use 42 units.... I was using latisse and happy w it ... I just became lazy using it ... I allowed my almost full bottle expire ... Oh well .. Between doing my obagi nuderm regime it was too much and I have eyelashes .. It was important to me to keep my skin up vs the lashes ... My lashes are fine .. It was just a fade for me

That is awesome .. Happy to hear their going to take a look at ya

Yes, I have lashes as well, but for $11.00, can't go wrong, ya know, something to do.........lol obviously I have a lot of time on my hands. Yea, but I'm hoping someone will cancel, that's horrible I know. Who knows, once I go to Dr. Lebeau, he may do my face before I get my lips done. I am going to call Dr. butler about Dr. lebeau, see what he thinks. You know word of mouth is the best advertising you can get. All I think about are those lips. I noticed the corners of my mouth kinda go down at the corners, wonder if Dr. butler could so something about that? I'm afraid maybe the weight of the new lips may make me frown even more, have you ever heard of that happening? My luck, right? Now my big delema is what procedure to get? There's the Phenol with Croton oil, erbium, I already had the co2 flaxel (Dr. welch). I have a few acne scars on the side of my face that I have waited soooo many years to get rid of, I've tried everything, dermebrasion, mini facelift, and flaxel, nothing worked. But there's so many different things out now. dr Butler went over the different procedures with me, I just have to see which one Dr. lebeau does. I don't want just new skin, I want skin with the scars, don't know if I will ever achieve that. I think I'm the only sixty year old that uses proactiv !! Lol

I meant without scars!

I have heard of some girls on here saying the permalips cause them to frown and turn downwards... Not sure why it happens to some vs others ... Maybe it's the placement or the implant flipped inside their lips ? It's just one of those cons you have to consider again.. I didn't have that problem ... As far as the skin I thought the one thing about aging that I was happy about was acne ... I still will get one or two pop up sometimes when Mother Nature comes knocking ... Don't understand that .., it could be certain foods ... Changes in diet .. Hormones ?? That would miff me .. I would personally go to a dermatologist who specializes in that area ... That is crazy being 60 and having that issue :( and sounds like you've tried everything.., maybe a endocrinologist

No, I don't get them now, I just have a few scars from when I was young. I'm trying to get rid of the scars.

Yes. I'm very happy about it.

Sorry my bad I miss understood .. Wish you luck and hope the next laser treatment works for you

Yes I have a very talkative green cheek conure named Ollie ... The smallest parrot you can buy without all the dander .. I wanted a Cooktoo the big white one w the Mohawk but they live 65 little to late for us to get one :) Ollie will live up to 25 yrs

That is awesome, I have a baby (8 months) old greenwing macaw that I have hand fed since 3 weeks old. What a trip this bird is. She calls me mommy and talks and wraps her wings around me for a hug, really sweet.

That is too cool ... My uncle has a macaw but wouldn't let me handle him .. Tried to bite me a few times . ... Their beaks are huge and look like they could take a chunk of skin out of your arm .. So I would admire him from a distance lol

Really? I haven't heard of that.

Thank you, that's nice to know, what good are big lips if they are frowning? Hee hee

Dermatologist can do that.

I haven't had any major surgeries yet(on the face, but trust me when the day comes i will) other than doing the normal maintenance as of right now to stay young...as you should know yourself eating right and exercising can shave years off an individual...i agree with you too....a lot of women bake in the sun and don't take care of themselves and it shows as they age ...I have no problem telling my age; Im turning 41 tomorrow..sigh...hate it, but its just a number.....determined to take care of myself

My ps is also Dr Butler in Pensacola. I'm 60 and getting brow lift, facelift, neck and I wanted the permanent lip but sounds like you've had a few issues? I'm so sorry, your absolutely beautiful!

Thank you so much for that.just be very clear with your surgeon where the cuts will be. Some surgeons now are cutting along the hairline on your forehead. Avoiding bald scars in your hair. I was unaware of this. My friend had a good result, but my scar shows. Now I'm stuck wearing bangs.

Please let me know how it goes! Good luck!

Fitmom: Your lips are beautiful but you never had a before pic at least I couldn't find one. Could you post a before? Please?

If I can figure out with my tech genius. Problem is. I've had juviderm in them for many years.

Thank you

Lol no I still come on here from time to time

My post didn't take all the way :( here I go again lol... no worries your still really fresh from the surgery ... I would give it at least 4 wks and than might be concern still depending how much swelling is going on still .. I know it's hard not to pick at ourselves and be critical because we have a certain vision in our head what we're hoping the end result will look like .. I'm glad my experience was able to ease your mind a little :) also another thing I might not have mention the swelling doesn't go down evenly :( either cause I remember worrying about an infection or the implant flipping ..I know for myself depending on how much swelling is a occurring after the 4 weeks I would reach out to my PS just to make sure all was ok, but I didn't have to do that and all was good .. I believe everyone e goes through the duck phase because the lips swell up so bad .. even went through it w the 2 injection but went down faster vs the surgery .. I'm so you will look fab:) happy healing .. reach out to me anytime

sorry has taken so long to respond...my husband says i kiss differently since i've had it done; he says their soft still....i can feel them when i touch my lips but otherwise i can't tell....one thing i have notice... i can no longer eat apples whole...i have to cut them up now...which is a bummer cause i always grab them for on the go with my protein shake...other fruit requires refrigeration...now i grab kiwis whole with skins...just wash than throw in my purse :) If you decide to get it done really research your doctor...watch the surgery on youtube...acknowledge yourself with everything and anything pertaining to your procedure before your consult. Your knowledge is your best weapon to protect yourself and make a sound decision on which PS to choose. I hope i answered your questions and it helps you get closer to whether its for you or not....feel free to ask me anything .... The best of luck to you :)

My permit lips are now 15 days old. I'm on the fence about having them removed. they feel weird and cumbersome. also should I expect them to shrink more as they are a bit too big for my liking. will this be the final shape I should expect? Thank you for your kind response.

if you look at my pics before the last one...there is a big difference in size...they are still swollen....as far as they feel its a little different at first because there are some adjustments you have to make while they are still swollen when it comes to eating and drinking, but once your pass the swollen stage you should feel quite normal again; in my opinion having them removed is premature. I would at least give your lips a chance to heal before making the decision to have them taken out and see how they settle and feel.... :))

Dear creid1, I know how are you feeling now. I had done both lips 25 days ago, on the twelfth day I "lost" my implant from my lower lip, it was really stressful and I found my mouth so constrict /I really coudnt open it properly, I felt it so shrank/ and I asked my doc. to take it out also from my upper lip. He asked me to be patient, that it needs time and he was right. Today I feel good and I am starting to like it. I wish you all the best, just wait 1 - 2 weeks more and when you will see what is the result like. Have a nice weekend, Inga

That's just slightly still noticeable...quack . quack just don't waddle like one..you'll loose the quack by the 3rd or 4th week out from surgery

glad your happy with them....you have to start your own Lip Augmentation story and you will find the upload pics in that area..good luck :))

Please post a pic!