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Had IPL for Visible Blood Vessels. Unacceptable Results and Practitioner. - Palm Harbor, FL

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Spent: $300 in Palm Harbor, FL

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Updated 17 May 2012

Posted 25 Dec 2011

I went to an mdspa in the Palm Harbor to receive IPL to get rid of my visible blood vessels on my cheeks in Mid November. I'm 37.

Unfortunately, the PA did the area near my eyes as well though I didn't request it. I had swelling for about 7 days total, mostly around my eyes. I had a few new blood vessels surface that were previously unnoticeable. I now have dime sized areas under my eyes that are noticeably a darker, stranger color, almost like it's black and blue under the eyes with some redness in a part of it. It's 1.5 months since I had the treatment. It is not improving. I also have little bumps on my skin under one eye and the skin is slightly sunken in under my right eye. The texture is bumpy where it used to be smooth.

I've seen two separate dermatologists and both say that it is possible that they may heel over time (not guaranteed) but that the new blood vessels are permanent. I didn't have any burns but you don't need a burn to have this damage. The swelling was really awful.

It was explained by the dermatologist that some of the IPL machines have some RF frequency also in them which can cause the dermis to shrink to become more damaged causing the difference in depth I see on my skin.

I can only hope this will heal. It is a little hard to cover with makeup in that the area is a different texture, depth, and color so it is quite noticeable. The area near the eye is more sensitive and thinner. Why she treated this area I will never know but definitely discuss exactly where you want your IPL so they don't just treat you everywhere.

I would not recommend this procedure. In the future for any procedure, I would only go with a dermatologist who has extensive experience with lasers, not a PA and definitely not an mdspa. I never did see a doctor at that location.

To make matters worse, the PA decided to do an RF skin tightening treatment under my chin (which I didn't request)and did not use any eye shields - which can lead to permanent eye damage. He goal was to sell me on the whole procedure. I've had corneal irritation since the procedure along with annoying vision issues and I have to put in steroid drops daily to reduce this (not to mention they found brand new opacities). Since I didn't bite for the full skin tightening treatment, she then tried to sell me a B-12 shot claiming it would give me energy. All of this was a big learning experience and reminder to only go with professional medical doctors for any procedures in the future.

Definitely go to a competent doctor for any procedure, not a mdspa and skip IPL for broken blood vessels. There are apparently better lasers out there for blood vessel treatments though since this mdspa didn't own that laser, they sold me on this one (and never mentioned there were others). I wish I had done more research.



Updated on 7 Jan 2012:
I should also mention that I have a substantial increase in wrinkles on my cheeks and around the eyes. The machine used also has an RF factor in it. Is it possible the RF was too high and melted the fat under my skin?

Updated on 17 May 2012:
I'm now 6 months out and my skin is considerably worse. I wish I could go back to week 8 - that was just a warning of things to come.

It did not get better as I had hoped.

I consulted a laser expert who told me I have thermal damage. They took picture and said the radiofrequency was too high and went too deep causing fat atrophy (fat loss) and dermal damage. They said it may continue to get worse (and it has).

I have wrinkles all around my eyes, a bumpy texture and the skin is sinking down. I have little brown spots and many more blood vessels as the skin has thinned so much everything shows through. The laser expert said the skin is too thin for fillers as they may show though with a blusih cast. I was told to baby my skin with gentle moisturizers. I was told the indentation under my right eye is permanent as once the facial fat is lost it does not repair.

I look like I'm well over 60 around my eyes.

Here is all the info about my treatment:

The machine used was called the EMAX made by Syneron. The PA who did the treatment was Rosemary Woolfe. Medical director is Lyda Tymiak (an opthalmologist).

The RF setting was 25 using the SRA head. Optical fluence was also 25.

I also continue to have eye pain. Opthalmologist suggested I have nerve damage from the procedure as it was very close to my eyes and my eyes were not protected duing the second procedure.

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The settings for the treatment were too aggressive and I have dermal atrophy, fat loss, excessive wrinkling, and changes to my skin that were not part of the suggested reactions to the treatment. The PA treated an area I never requested and didn't use eye shields for part of the treatment. See the photos and decide for yourself if you want a fotofacial at Timeless Md Spa.

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Megan P (Community Manager) 5 Jan 2012

You certainly make a valuable add to the community by stressing the importance of going to a reputable doctor.

That is unfortunate about the change in color under your eyes. Have you seen any improvement, or has it remained as dark as it was?

Megan P (Community Manager) 10 Jan 2012

Thanks for posting your update. There was a question asked in the Q&A section that might address your question about the possibility of the fat under your eyes being melted.

"Is IPL with RF Powerful Enough to Melt Fat?"

However, there are others who have talked about fat loss after IPL. Here are links to  a couple of their reviews.

“Extreme Fat Loss After IPL”

“Fat Loss/sagging/permanent Puffiness from IPL”

cveroleyva 13 Jan 2012
Hey Ajapel,
Thanks for posting a pict so that people understand exactly what we are talking about. Those are the same lines, bumps, etc I have all over from my ipl treatments. This wasn't on the consent form by any means. ugh.
ajapel 13 Jan 2012
I wonder if it is a settings issue. As in maybe they just turned the RF setting or flurence up too much for the thickness of the skin in that area. I mostly have it where the PA turned up the machine. Unbeliveably she told me she was turning it up right under my eyes and on the tops of my cheeks. This area looks far worse than the rest of my face. The skin is thinner in this area so should receive less energy, not more.
imsorrynow2 13 Jan 2012
I want to let you know I went to a doctor here in Tampa and all she does is laser, injections, etc. I had IPL and on the third session set it up one notch higher and caused the same damage. When I smile I have very deep lines that cave-in on my face. Orange peel, pitting all the same that others have had. I have stayed out of the sun for years, never smoked or had acne and now it looks like I have done all three. It is disgusting case of greed. Everyone in the medical field want to say this is impossible but we are all proof it can and does.
KikiLisa (RealFriend) 13 Jan 2012
I had a plastic surgeon tell me that basically what these machines are capable of doing is "frying" your fat, similar to the way fat shrinks when it's in a frying pan. The dermis has been cooked, melted and zapped away. IN addition to the devastation one endures with all the ongoing changes to the face and skin, the cascade of ensuing health problems post damage is also life altering.
ajapel 16 Jan 2012
I'm quite upset that there seem to be limited studies done on this type of reaction. Plenty of literature on burns but obviously orange peel texture and wrinkling happens since there are numerous stories of it. They need to do a study on it, pronto, but there proably isn't any money is a study that demonstrate damage versus a study that demonstrates beneficial results so they just are not done. Very sad.
cveroleyva 16 Jan 2012
maybe you're on to something, but i keep thinking because these lasers go upwards to 200,000 to purchase, once the provider has it there pretty much is no turning back. and if one provider acknowledges that this type of damage can happen, they'll sink their collegues. my two cents anyway. scar tissue also can take up to two years to develop, and i highly doubt providers keep tabs on past patients unless the patients come back on their own because they believe their scarring is linked to the lasers/ipl machines.
imsorrynow2 19 Jan 2012
You know I am still waiting to hear if anyone has had a doctor admit they were aware of any of these bad reactions/results. Also if any doctor tried to help their patient with the bad results. Doctors are scientist they have to had read something on the internet that would make them maybe question what the makers and seller of all of lasers used for this purpose. There is another website called (IPLANDLASERDAMAGESUPPORT.COM). You can go and read accounts from as far back as 2007 to present. This includes men and women from all over the world that have had horrible results. The biggest issue is never once did I get told that this could happen. Only redness, peeling, some pain, and on in some cases hypopigmention. Really how are we suppose to weigh the risk if the professional are not telling us the truth?
ajapel 14 Feb 2012
I have had no improvements but continue to get worse. To make matters worse, I have pain with the eye that has the indendation. Why she treated my eye area is beyond me! You are not supposed to treate above the orbital bone. The machine was maxed out on the radio frequency so I have no idea what this could have done to my eye. The opthalmologist suspects nerve and vessel damage - it targets blood vessel so targeted one on my eye! Lucky me.
Megan P (Community Manager) 18 May 2012

Thank you so much for continuing to keep us updated and posting pictures so we can all learn from this. I'm so sorry for what you are having to go through. Please continue to keep us posted on how you are.

A.B. Normal 25 May 2012
I had IPL as well last year. I only did it for some brown spots from the sun. He was a board certified plastic surgeon, but that doesnt mean ANYTHING! After the treatment my skin felt smooth to the touch and all the brown spots flaked off. I was happy,.... AT FIRST...He must have had the machine at maximum setting because afterwards my face felt like it was frying. He also got too close to the corner of my eye and caused a nasty burn under my eye that bruised, I looked like I had a shiner. There was a also a small red blood vessel that I never had before surface on my nose, that was bleeding for weeks. Now my skin looks different, I am confident he liquified the fat under my skin and it's permanent damage.
ajapel 25 May 2012
I'm sorry to hear about yoru skin A.B. If you have atrophy, you will have sunken skin either generalized, or in spots and you may have wrinkling as what is under the skin is no longer there. It isn't fun. I have textural changes from this was well where my skin is very bumpy and orange-peel textured (gritty). It used to be smooth. I think IPL is a complete chance - with too many people having skin damage afterwards.

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