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Very Comfortable Experience, Now Have Permanent Damage.. - New York, NY

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Spent: $1,400 in New York, NY

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Updated 1 May 2012

Posted 15 Apr 2011

Let me put this out there, I made it to 3 out of 4 ipl sessions. It was a very comfortable experience, no stinging, no burns, no rubber band snapping sensations, the office was great. Explained worse case scenario it may not work, best case scenario skin will look great. I browned on my sun spots, flaked, and they fell off just like I was told. My face looked great...due to microswelling.

On my 4th session, I was scheduled after July of 2010. I didn't show up. Reason being, I began to notice drastic changes to my face, cheeks losing plumpness, dry skin, strange scars just showing up, wrinkles developing, orange peel texture skin, odd creasing. I went in for sunspots, I came out with serious damage. I'm a victim and I didn't have any initial reaction.

If you decide that ipl is the best for you, take your own pre ipl pictures, and post ipl pictures once a month for a year. And please keep posting and updating, it will help people make more educated decisions once they have all the knowledge about ipl and lasers.

Updated on 27 Apr 2011:
3 Ipls in 6 weeks. This picture shows what happened to me in less than a two month period. I never made it to the 4th, because I noticed the difference immediately after the swelling went down after my 3rd treatment.

Updated on 10 Jun 2011:
I found a link that I would like to know if I can post here, not only have we seen the positives on laser and ipls, but I don't think there is enough resources showing the negatives other than the our personal experiences. It doesn't highlight any practices, etc, but it is a very useful link so that those considering have as much information upfront as possible. Hope this is okay to post
http://atndesign.com/pdfs/Laser%20Compl ... kl2005.pdf

Updated on 21 Jul 2011:

Interesting study on ipl and oxidative stress:
http://www.hydrafacial.net/Dr_Freedman_Study_-_Topical_polyphenolic_antioxidants_reduce_the_adverse_effects_of_IPL.pdf

Updated on 1 Aug 2011:
Recently, I came across some information that I thought might be helpful. IPL is non-ablative, and reaches the dermis. The dermis, when heated, can retain the heat from ipl and cause 2nd to 3rd degree burns, even if you feel no pain during your session. The dermis can not regenerate itself. Once it is destroyed, the appearence of skin will become lax, leathery, and lose elasticity because the structure holding it up, the dermis, has been compromised. Any swelling that feels hot to the touch, and lasts for more then several hours after the ipl session, has to be immediately looked at by a burn center for evaluation. Often, because the dermis retains heat for hours or days, blistering does not need to be present in order to be indicative of a dermis 2nd degree or 3 degree burn. I wish I had known this, and had more common sense to contact a burn center immediately after my experience. My skin felt hot for 3days, but I was told that was the normal "sunburn" reaction. Any doctors on this forum care to comment?



Updated on 10 Aug 2011:
The more research I do, the more I understand the cosmetic laser industry. To find out more information about the laser you are researching, I would encourage you to look under the laser's annual report filings, known as the 10-K form. "We have modified some of our products without FDA clearance. The FDA could retroactively decide the modifications were improper and require us to cease marketing and/or recall the modified products." That's just a small blurb from one of the annual findings, do all your research and determine whether you trust the laser company you're looking into.

Updated on 29 Oct 2011:
Please check this site out, this isn't just a "lunchtime procedure." This is a forum where opthomologists are discussing patients that have been treated after ipl created damage to their eyes. http://www.dryeyezone.com/talk/showthread.php?13971-The-Dangers-of-IPL-please-read-before-you-get-your-first-treatment

Updated on 8 Mar 2012:
An update: Texture the same, has not improved, skin lax, leathery, jowly, with the same bumps and linear scarring. The hydroquoine was increased to 8% for me, and has done wonders in helping keep my skin uniform in color. I'm still doing my chemical peels every 6 weeks for pigment, and have an appointment to go in for my 3rd visit for tca cross in dented/ice pick scars. So far I haven't seen any noticable change with the latter, but I'm giving it about a year before I stop with the tca cross and give an updated review on my outcome.

Updated on 1 May 2012:
Nearing my 2 year anniversary since my Ipl disasters. Unfortunately, my skin never bounced back and neither did my contours, and now I am looking into fillers and even considering fat grafting at age 35. I have more crepey skin texture and linear scarring than ever. I can only imagine it getting worse with normal aging, never in a million years did I consider light therapy to be so destructive.

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Interesting, the office staff was incredibly lovely, acted as if they were fully knowledgable and advertise on their website that they have the expertise on "ethnic skin." They answered all my questions with absolute confidence. They didn't rush me, spent time with me, and then followed up with me because I didn't show up to the 4th treatment. But here's the kicker, they either are in denial, or know nothing about the real term side affects of ipl. The machine they used was Lumines.

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BrittB 19 Apr 2011

Hi cveroleyva, 

Welcome tot he IPL community! Yay, I'm so glad to see you in the review neighborhood, your review will be very useful to the community. I'm sorry your procedure did not go as hoped. Did you go back and ask your doctor what happened? You also might want to check out the answers to our doctor Q&A, IPL Laser Side Effects-When do They go Away? Maybe you will find something helpful. Also thank you so much for the picture. :) Please keep us updated.

Thanks so much for the review,

-Britt

cveroleyva 27 Apr 2011
Hey Britt,
Thanks for allowing us to openly share our experiences and shed some light on the other side of reviews too. I will be going to a derm this Friday, it will be my first time visiting a doctor since my last ipl last year due to the ongoing and evolving damage. Truthfully out of fear I haven't gone, and also I have found it very difficult to find a derm that does not practice laser on patients.
BrittB 27 Apr 2011

Hi cveroleyva,

I'm glad you are going to see someone else. I understand you are scared, but sometimes facing our fears is the best thing for us. I'm sure everything will be just fine. Thank you for posting a pictures. Please keep us updated as to how your appointment goes Friday, I will be thinking of you.

-Britt

ThankfulForyourinfo 8 Sep 2011
Cveroleyva, Thanks for sharing. I've been debating on whether to try ipl. My derm insists it will be fine but I've heard some horror stories about its longer term effects. I was supposed to go last May but got scared. I saw my derm again today & she is very persuasive, so I decided to do more research and found this board. Good luck to you.
cveroleyva 11 Sep 2011
Oh Thank you:).
My personal wish is that you don't go through it, but I know it's not my decision to make. Do as much research as possible before commiting to something like ipl. Are you interested in ipl to maintain your skin health or for something else? sunspots, acne, etc? I've noticed lemon and baking soda work great to lighten spots, inexpensive, and I do alternate between rosehip oil and castor oil at night as a moisturizer now. My doctor put me on bleachease for more severe melasma I developed post ipl, but the scarring that it left me with and the texture is still there. Please please think it through. Many hugs and best wishes-
ThankfulForyourinfo 22 Sep 2011
I have roseacia. My face tends to be ruddy, especially around my nose. She was suggesting a few sessions. I take oral meds to keep it in control. I can live with occasionally too ruddy cheeks. Again thank you for having the courage to post. I have made up my mind never to try ipl.

Best, Linda
My Simple Solution 27 Sep 2011

Hi Linda
I had Roseaca for maybe three years, tried products suggested by my GP but nothing realy worked. I then started to put Savlon on the affected areas...wonderful, it's gone and has never come back. I'm thinking of using Ifl for a couple of brown spots but having read some of this I'm not so sure...good luck try Savlon it can't do any harm.

cveroleyva 28 Sep 2011
Hi,
Thanks for posting on the savlon. What does it do? I know some people go to lasers/ipl for roseaca. It'd be great if its good stuff. :). Results take time?
KikiLisa (RealFriend) 23 Apr 2011
Thanks for putting up a picture Cvero, that is exactly what my skin looks like now. I used to have silky smooth skin, now it's rough looking and full of problems. I just can't believe this keeps happening to people!
cveroleyva 27 Apr 2011
Hey KikiLisa!!!
I'm a little late on reading rs posts. Wow, so this is your skin too. I've read so much, and so many docs say this isn't good for acne patients at all. It's only there for pigmentation, and medispas and docs are getting carried away as if though this is an easy overall quick no downtime treatment but arn't being honest about side affects. I think all the doctors that advocate here, should try it on themselves and give freebies to their families and friends...hmmmm... Yup, I don't think they would either, they know the risks and it's not written on any of their brochures, other than temporary or just beware that you don't get burned. Thanks alots docs. And RS, I hope you keep this post up. Afterall, we want the good, bad, and the ugly to be openly discussed on this forum.
samantha6566 1 Jan 2012
I had Fraxel XL(?) done on my face and neck. My face is now rougher and not as smooth as before. I can't tell if it's any tighter than before, which is what I did it for. Glad I only had it done once!!
cveroleyva 27 Apr 2011
And just to put it out there for anyone reading this review, medispas have access to ipl machines because they do not need to be licensed. They can set up shop and take a weekend training course without practicing on real clientle. The prices for sessions per ipl are much cheaper because these machines are significantly lower in cost to purchase and finance than let's say fraxel, palamor,etc (but Id read up on these laser side affects too if youre considering laser). There is a blog out there which I accidentally stumbled upon by doctors and medispas that help eachother to figure out appropriate settings, acknowledge negative reviews and how to counter balance them, and techniques they share to not produce zebra striped clientle. Scary stuff. Keep searching, reviewers will find it.
BrittB 29 Apr 2011

Hi cveroleyva,

How'd your appointment go today?

-Britt

cveroleyva 29 Apr 2011
Hey Britt!
Thanks for remembering, that's crazy!?! lol.
The derm acknowledged that she has been experiencing clientele that go through ipl/laser and because a common side affect is meslasma,also increase in acne production, but she can't verify that with studies. she's seeing an increase number of patients coming as a side affect of post treatment. Also, her pa who once practiced ipl/laser on her patients, and was at my visit with her, did acknowledge that technologies are changing so rapidly that she no longer can feel safe providing laser/ipl because it's too confusing. The office does offer laser, but the derm will refer out because she herself does not practice either.
At this time, shes going to help treat my post ipl melasma with topical medication, I'll be back in 8 weeks, and from there we'll start working on the scarring. Oh my, what a mess.... there are two sides to everything, but I feel better, at least I know I'm not crazy and this was more than coincidence.
Thanks for thinking of me:)
BrittB 29 Apr 2011

Of course! Well, I'm glad she is going to help you figure this out. It sucks that you are going through this, but at least it seems there might be a pin hole of light at the end. Try to think positive, I know usually easier said than done and us keep us updated.

Have a great weekend!

-Britt

Lola49 1 May 2011
Hope everything will be okay. Do you have before pictures?
cveroleyva 1 May 2011
Hello Lola,
I wish I did. My skin was smooth. Unfortunately, because I was explained it wasn't laser and this was just an easy process with virutally no side affects (other than being burned or not burned by someone using the wrong settings, or hypopigmentation-that I was told), it never occured to me to take a picture prior. I wish I had.
calvin1 14 Jun 2011
Hi,cveroleyva. In reading your earlier posts, I notice that you had 3 ipls in 6 weeks? I was told by my ipl nurse that I had to wait 6 weeks between each treatment for the collagen to recover. Can any of the Drs. on here comment? I've had 3 so far, and hopefully the improvement I see will last. Anyway, I'm glad you're seeing a Dr. to take care of your skin now. Best of luck.
cveroleyva 20 Jul 2011
Hey lola,
I got lucky and found a before pic. It's posted if it helps you any in making a decision about ipl or lasers. And believe it or not, I didn't wear make up in this pic, nor did I have to ever, until now......
Lake Worth7399 7 Nov 2011
Hi all. I know this is a long time later, but I was just looking at the reviews of IPL and saw that Cveroleyca had three IPL's in six weeks. I want to let you all know that I just had my first IPL and my doctor won't let me come back for six weeks. So that's why you probably had so many problems. I wouldn't go back to that doctor ever again if I was you. Good luck to you.
cveroleyva 7 Nov 2011
Thank you Lakeworth,
I was thinking along the same lines myself. At the time though, it was popular among many locations to see patients once every two weeks, and now I'm seeing that ipl/lasers are being more spread out among practioners.Based on my own, I rather not see anyone take a chance, but I'm hopeful that you will have a positive experience:).
cveroleyva 14 Jun 2011
Hi Calvin,
Yup, they did it in between two week intervals. It seems to be the standard, but if you're having it every six weeks, it may be better. I really don't know, just take pictures of you skin while you're receiving treatment to keep track of progress and baby your skin while you're undergoing treatments. Good luck and hope you have great results:)
georges 20 Jun 2011
excellent review. thank you and good luck to you!
KP81 14 Jul 2011
Wow, I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. I have had IPL with great sucess. I have had it done on my face, my chest, my stomach & my shoulders for sun damage and have great sucess. The doctor I see does a one time session versus 5-8 sessions like a lot of med spa's recommend. What I can tell you though is my doctor made it VERY clear that IPL is not for ethnic skin or malasma. I think the problem that might be happening is these med spa's just arent educated enough about the machines they are using. So very sad. Your skin will get better I'm sure, it'll just take some time. This is just another reminder that WE need to do our research before doing anything to our skin. We just cant trust what we're being told.
cveroleyva 14 Jul 2011
Aboslutely,
Thanks for your response. I went to a medspa that advertised for "ethnic skin care", and unfortunately even doctors that I went to afterwards felt that ipl could be good for me to clear the previous damage. But I'm a firm believer, that this is not good for darker skin despite what many reviews and doctors say. There's such a mix of information out there....sigh. But I just want people to be informed of all the possibilities, and to understand that my skin was not charred or burnt, and I still was damaged. Very tricky stuff. But so glad that you've had great outcomes:).

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