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67 Years Old Going on 36. - Murrieta, CA

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I wanted a fresher look. I did get that, my face...

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Pamela8538
$13,500
I wanted a fresher look. I did get that, my face looks great, however I have been a widow for 6 years, very young both- mind and actions, and wanted to maybe start dating a little, lunch or dinner. Maybe a movie. I went to a board- certified plastic surgeon who seemed well credentialed, educated and nice. We scheduled a hairline brow lift and face and neck lift . The price seemed reasonable for my location, about average. I had the procedures and the pain was almost unbearable. I have a low pain tolerance and was told there would only be discomfort. They were wrong. At three months out, I still suffered severe itching on my scalp and was told up to that point it was "normal healing". At the three month point, swelling was gone, but the itching wasn't, so I went back to see the doctor. It was then I said "I have wrinkles on my forehead, and my brows are in the same place as before the surgery. He then said, "I decided NOT TO DO the brow lift (AFTER making a 10" hairline incision) because I thought your eyes might not close properly when you sleep, causing dry eyes. (He couldn't figure that out during the two pre-op visits or before he sliced me open?) I said "I paid you $3,500. to do the brow lift, and you didn't do the procedure? He then said (this is 3 months after the surgery) "I can give you a refund of the $3,500". I said I wanted the whole amount back ($13,500) and he said he couldn't afford to do that. He also stated he had severed 2 nerves in my scalp, and that hopefully in time they would heal so the itching would stop. I said no, I would see an attorney, and left. The next morning I was told there was a check for $10,000. waiting for me. Because I was on 8-10 Norco per day, I had my girlfriend drive me over and I picked up the check, but not before signing a release form. I now at 6 months out have no recourse for any damages he has caused. Last week I called the office and asked for a copy of my medical records and was told I was not allowed to have them, (that is a lie) except the surgical report. I got into a heated discussion with this woman who I knew to be the Esthetician and Office Manager, and was promptly told the doctor DID do the brow lift. I was stunned! I told her what he had told me, and she said he was mistaken, he did indeed do the lift. Then she told me "It was I who decided to write you the check for the $10K to get you off our backs. STUNNED!!! I said why you, and she said I AM HIS WIFE, and I WROTE THE CHECK--try to find yourself an attorney if you want. I said you saw to it that I can't . I was told never to call the office again and she hung up on me. I am DUMBFOUNDED. 6 attorneys have told me they will NOT take my case, I signed a release and there is nothing that can be done about it.

So when you go into a doctor's office ask who the office manager is, if it's his wife--go somewhere else. I have been told he knows nothing about what she has done to me. The Care Credit fee was charged to me, which is not allowed by the credit card company. That was an extra $650.00.

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My face is great, I love my neck. I have not been able to go out of the house for more than 3 hours in the past 6 months due to severe itching, and open sores from scratching that have not yet healed.

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March 3, 2015
Why is your head shaved? And why is your head so itchy?
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April 14, 2015
I'm confused though... you look great and the brows and eye area does look lifted... as well as the forehead looking smoother. So ,I guess it is the itchiness due to the nerve damage that is the biggest problem? Again, you look fantastic!
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April 15, 2015
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May 11, 2015
Looking at your before and after photos, it looks like you DID receive a forehead lift. I'd say overall your doctor did a very nice job! May I ask what caused the sores on the top of your head and why it is you chose to shave your hair off?
May 11, 2015
And why the demand for a full refund for the entire procedure and not just the $3,500.00 for the forehead lift that you feel was not done? (Your forehead and face look 100% better, and the entire procedure cost you $4,150.00? Amazing!) I'd say you did VERY well!
UPDATED FROM Pamela8538
6 months post

Photo of my face and neck with a wig to cover shaved head and incision

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June 27, 2014
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm so sorry this didn't turn out better for you? So, in giving you your refund your doctor is also trying to gag your ability to write a review on him?
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June 27, 2014
Absolutely! To get a partial refund, before they gave me the check, I signed a release. The Wife of the doctor wrote the check, I was told he doesn't even know it was written. The Attorneys have said the release would cost up to $25,000. to "break", and I don't have a guarantee it would work. So Here I sit! But read the comments I just made to 1953 about meds and essential oils. It's working, at least so far! If you have a problem, NEVER sign a release!!!
June 27, 2014
This is horrible! Look up my story. I haven't signed any release forms. Thank goodness . But my life has been changed completely. I'm so sorry he did this to you.
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June 27, 2014
Then sue the SOB and do something about it.
June 27, 2014
I will if I don't heal! Like I said , it's coming up on a year. After that I'm going to start my journey of going to doctors out of my area to find out what I'm in for the rest of my life. I pray they will tell me my nerves are okay and he didn't leave any needles in my head and I will be okay in time. Yes, the nurse couldn't account for all the needles he used. Maybe they were able to figure that out after I went home but while I was recovering I could hear them concerned about the needles that were missing! So I need to get an ex ray to see if they can see any needles in my head. Hopefully NOT! Once again, I am so incredibly sorry this happened to you. Life is hard enough, this is something we should not have to go through so they can make a buck!
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June 28, 2014
Was this a Board Certified Plastic Surgeon? They MUST count all needles, sponges and equipment BEFORE you are out of surgery. RUN, don't walk to an attorney. They need your medical records and by law you are entitled to them. There is a one year time limit from the date you first found that this was a problem, so you had better talk to an attorney next week! These doctors aren't in it for the sake of the patient, cosmetic surgeons are basically greedy and self absorbed. There are some who volunteer to do reconstructive surgeries on kids and such, but they are in the minority, believe me. Go to a neurologist as soon as you can, or a good dermatologist. A Neurologist deals with nerves, they should be able to help you. Believe me, you have a friend that understands just what you are going through, me. I am in it too. Take my advice about the essential oils and Neurontin, the difference is AMAZING in my case.
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June 28, 2014
There is a new show on this week, BOTCHED, I don't remember the channel.
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June 28, 2014
You have 1 year to do anything, hurry up!
June 28, 2014
Yes... The best . Yes, as I remember very clearly the nurse was more worried about the needles then giving me a nice chip!!! One Year?? Uh oh , I better get to a doctor. A neurologist? Ok I got it. Okay I will get on it. I wanted to give it a year. But I didn't know the legal time . I thought 7 years.
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June 28, 2014
Run, don't walk!
June 27, 2014
I can hardly go out.
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June 27, 2014
Post your photos - before and after so I can see what you are talking about.
June 27, 2014
Hi Pam, you can not see my discomfort. I am not sure but I think he did damage to the nerves in my head. I look presentable... I feel horrible. I don't know what I'm going to do legally. I'm hoping I heal. I do blame myself for not understanding the procedure before it had it done. I have known my doctor for over 20 years and he has done excellent work until lately as he became older. I didn't know he was going down hill. Like I said, it's not about the money. I don't understand why the medical field is letting doctors do this surgery when there are so many people like us being harmed. I am so happy you found real self so you could share your story so maybe someone who is thinking about having this Risky surgery done..can read and understand the consequences. Brow lifts are dangerous. I was told it as easy and a fast recovery. As we know...That is not always the case.
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June 28, 2014
They state is it a 1% chance of this happening, I think it's more like at least 10%. You cannot see my discomfort either, except the photo I posted showing the sores on the top of my head from scratching in my sleep for the past 6 months. Like I said I am pleased with my face, it took 10 years off my age, and when I wear a wig, another 10 drops off. However it hasn't don a lot of good, since I have been housebound for 6 months.
June 28, 2014
I understand I have been for almost a year. Can you exercise, work in your garden, go up and downstairs, dance, play with your grand baby, go swimming or hiking, boating , the list goes on how dare they scalp me ! Forever !
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June 28, 2014
Not Forever! , try the medication and oils, they might help. As for me, sadly, due to post-polio syndrome I have not been able to get on my knees to garden, cannot clime or descend stairs, my daughter took my 8,9, and 1 year old grandsons away from me 17 years ago, and I have only seen them in pics on Facebook. She hasn't talked to me in all that time either, so I don't know why she did this. My heart has been broken too many times by that girl over the years, and my son has no kids. He did tell me, tho, that the eldest is in and out of jail and prison, and just totaled his dad's 1 day old $40,000. truck while on drugs and alcohol. He was a sweet kid, I blame the upbringing by two abusive parents. Long story about our past, but truly, aside from the broken heart, I am better off with her out of my life. She is very close to my sister, and that explains a big chunk of why all this has happened. But my sister is out of my life, too. I lost my husband to cancer 6 years ago, we were married for over 29 years. Big time loss. I had a best friend of 43 years, Bill, and I just buried him 2 months ago. I had talked to him at 2:30, even talked about seeing the new Celine Dion show upcoming in Vegas (he knew her personally) and at 3:30 he was dead. I guess that's the way life goes. He and I talked every day for hours. Now--nothing. It's just me and my little Yorkie Dillon now and when I can get back to church (I used to go every week, since the surgery I have gone 4 times in 6 months) things will be a lot better. I have started, slowly, at a gym and have gotten on the treadmill Wed and today, Friday. Just 1/2 hour is all I can do for now, but I'll just keep on truckin' til I get to 2.5 miles or more. Probably take 6 months or so to get there. I have done NO exercise in 10 years due to surgeries and pain. Slow and steady is all I can do. You know, that's all any of us can do come to think of it. We need to do what we are able to do, and thank Heavenly Father we aren't worse off than we are. Please send me your name and where you live, you can call me if you wish. My name is Pam and it's (951) 672-1939.
June 28, 2014
I'm so sorry about your daughter, grand children and Sister. Can you contact them and tell them you need them? I understand why you wanted the surgery. It sounds like you're doing well with you're exercising. I wear a thing called the Fitbit to keep me moving. I try to walk in the early morning because the sun on my head is bad. The exercise helps me sleep soundly. Treadmill or walking.. I have to get in my 10,000 steps a day. By the end of the day I'm DONE! My friends think I dropped off the face of the earth. No one knows I made this huge mistake. I'm ashamed of myself. Now I'm stuck. Plus now I'm fat. I use to put in 20 or 30,000 steps a day. I'm sorry your life has been so hard. I will pray for you. I'm not much for talking on the phone but I appreciate you giving me your phone phone number. I will keep you posted on my progress and you do to me too. I will get to my lawyer soon and get the ball rolling. You look beautiful. I wish we both felt better. Prayers
June 27, 2014
I feel very uncomfortable when I leave the house. I can't go in the sun. My hair feels heavy and oily on the top of my head. The days I wash my hair I can't do anything but sit because of the tightest on my forehead. I use to be a very active person. I have gained weight. I do not look as good before the brow lift. My eyes feel heavy. When I brush my hair I have to be very very gentle. I feel like my life is ruined. It's been almost 1 year a go since my surgery. I pray everyday tomorrow I will be better. There's still hope...I pray. My doctor and staff encouraged my surgery! They didn't tell me any of the risks!
June 27, 2014
No amount of money can replace your health!
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June 27, 2014
Honey, I had Polio as an infant and have had 33 surgeries. You've got that right!
UPDATED FROM Pamela8538
6 months post

Not bad for a 67 year old, huh?

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I will try to post a before, it is very different!

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June 28, 2014
That's good to know... Let me know if you find out what channel
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June 28, 2014
It's on E! HD
June 28, 2014
Thank you
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July 1, 2014
Watched "Botched" and we are not alone! So many mistakes, instead of the 1% they tell you of things that can go wrong its between 10-15%. That sounds more like it.
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July 1, 2014
Please post some pictures! I hope you are finding an attorney and he can ask for the medical records. I think I am going to start taping my office visits. I'm caught in a he said she said with the doctor and his wife.
July 1, 2014
Wow, that's a big difference. Thank you
March 6, 2015
I feel sad for you hope everything will settle down eventually and life will get better
March 24, 2016
I'm so freaked out on your transformation! your beautiful and very lucky as well!