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Going with Picoway as soon as Dr gets it - Los Angeles, CA

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I have two all black tattoos I want removed. I've...

Freedom1234
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I have two all black tattoos I want removed. I've seen a lot of individuals on this website who have all black tattoos they are removing with the Picosure laser, and I see a lot of doctors saying its the best.

My big problem is that the Picosure laser is does NOT operate at the ideal wavelength for the removal of black colored tattoos. It's an Alexandrite laser that operates at 755nm, and while black ink will absorb this wavelength, the 1064nm is the BEST wavelength for the removal of black tattoos. 1064nm is aborbed the most and also penetrates the skin the deepest.

Now where does Picosure help? Well it appears from all the pictures that shorter pulses (in the picosecond range) do efficiently and more effectively break the tattoo ink particles.

Here is my dilemna, why treat a black tattoo with a picosecond laser at the wrong wavelength? If many of you have tattoos, why not wait until a picosecond ND:YAG q-switched 1064nm laser comes out? And there is good news, because one is looking to come out in Europe soon and waiting FDA approval here in the USA.

I've decided I will wait for the new picosecond laser from Cutera, called Enlighten. Its a ND:Yag q-switched picosecond laser (532nm and 1064nm). That 1064 nm wavelength is absorbed the MOST by black inks and that wavelength penetrates the skin the deepest. Add to it that it is also a picosecond pulse duration, then it will be the best choice for black tattoos.

Anyways, just thought I'd share my thoughts because I can see amazing fading in so many of these photographs, but just based purely on a minimal understanding laser mechanics and wavelengths, I know that these black tattoos were done with picosecond ND:yag q-switcched 1064nm lasers it would have much much much better progress. Food for thought. Best of luck, great progress to everyone.

I'll try to hold out for the Cutera Enlighten (or any other picosecond 1064nm laser) before I get my tattoos removed too!

Freedom1234's provider

Dr. Alex Kaplan

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June 21, 2014
Welcome to the community! Have you heard when the new Picosure comes out?

Here is some information about the current Picosure and Tattoo Removal: 
Tattoo Removal videos : <rs-video-player video='{"id":"1136","external_id":"3582888941001","uri":"video\/chicago-2013-24-anolik-04-tattoo-v2"}'></rs-video-player>
PICOSURE FOR BLACK TATTOOS? (PHOTO)
LASER TATTOO REMOVAL: 10 THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW BEFORE GETTING YOUR TATTOO REMOVED
I have seen some pretty successful black ink removal using the Picosure here on the site:

PICOSURE - THE ONLY WAY TO EFFECTIVELY REMOVE A TATTOO. - MIAMI, FL
WHAT ARE MY CHANCES?!
Keep us posted on your journey :) 


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June 23, 2014
Thanks for these links Eva. The problem which I think is adding to all the stress of the situation for us all is that there are two doctors in that first link contradicting each other. Who do we believe?
June 24, 2014
That was the point of my post. The one doctor recommending ND:YAG is correct in that that particular laser operates at the BEST wavelength for black tattoos. Picosure is an alexandrite laser and does not operate at the ideal wavelength for black tattoos. HOWEVER, because picosure is a picosecond laser, a lot of doctors (and pictures) seem to indicate it works better even though it does not operate at the ideal wavelength for black tattoos. THe shorter picosecond pulses seem to break the tattoo ink up more than the longer nanosecond pulses of the ND:YAG laser.
UPDATED FROM Freedom1234
21 days post

Decided to do Picosure with the BOOST upgrade

Freedom1234
Well, I have been holding out but now I have decided to remove two black tattoos, one on my finger and one on my forearm...both partially involve an ex's name and its time to remove them.

I am going to be one of the first patients to receive the Picosure laser with BOOST upgrade...which reduces the picosecond pulses from 700ps to 500 picoseconds...which apparently increases the photoacoustic effect by 75%.

I will post my before photographs over the weekend, and I will keep you all updated on the progress! BEST :)

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July 10, 2014
Awesome news! Can't wait to see how it works man!
July 10, 2014
Thank you! Will keep everyone updated
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July 11, 2014
That's exciting! I am looking forward to your update. 
August 6, 2014
Can't wait to see! Please show us if there is any luck!
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August 7, 2014
Just wondering how you made out with your treatment. 
UPDATED FROM Freedom1234
5 months post

Long time no talk---but choosing a new path

Freedom1234
Hi everyone-

I've spent most of my time commenting on your posts so now I'll update mine. I decided some time ago to hold off going with the Picosure. Since my tattoo is all black, I wanted to wait for the new picosecond 1064nm q-switched lasers to come out. AND they are finally here....thank god. Once my physician gets the new Picoway laser, I'll be going with that and will update my progress with that new laser with pictures and all. Sorry for the long break, and excited to start removing this tattoo!!

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November 4, 2014
So exciting, I want to see how effective this PicoWay is, sounds like it is going to be incredible! It's supposed to treat all colors and and be very effective on the harder to treat reds, pinks, orange and yellow! Please keep us posted - good luck. And hey, thanks for coming back to update!
November 4, 2014
A GODSEND!!! Thank you Jesus for blessing us with mad scientists, physics, physicians and engineers!!! Kiss your ink goodbye kiddies!
November 4, 2014
Say whaaaaaaaat? WOOP WOOP!
November 5, 2014
wow i'm jsut about to go with picosure. wonder how long before the states (CA) get picoway
December 4, 2014
Are you going to celebrity laser center? I'm in LA too and am curious if they've said when they will get the picoway?