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Botox in Forehead. Too Much or Wrong for Me (Six Days Post) Glendale, CA
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After having about 14 units of Botox in my frown...
TesssaJune 29, 2014
$135
After having about 14 units of Botox in my frown lines a month prior (the 11 lines) and with the result looking very natural (I could still frown, move, etc. it just looked softer and less wrinkly -- perfect), I decided to do my upper forehead. Doctor used only about 8-10 units (not sure but not more than 10). By day three, it looked fine though I was a little worried about slightly swollen eyelids. It's now day six and worse. My head feels too tight, my eyebrow position has dropped enough to lose my nice pretty arch and my eyelids seem hooded. My eyes look smaller. I feel nervous with my head this tight -- I hate how it feels. I regret getting the touch up in my upper forehead and should have just left it at the frown lines which looked great. I've been reading that some people just should not get their upper forehead done at all. Or, they should get maybe a couple shots of Botox and that is it. I have lost the lines, so the forehead looks fine, but it's the lowering of the brow and the change of shape in my eyes that is distressing. I feel really sad and down on myself. I'm only at day six and I am hoping this is pretty much the most change. I know it can peak at two weeks. I just want this to stop. A note -- I did this once before, about five months ago and the same thing happened. I actually went for LESS this time, and it happened again. This is why I KNOW I can't tolerate the stuff in my upper forehead. I feel dumb but I voiced my concern to my doc and I thought he was being extra careful. I will keep you posted.
UPDATED FROM Tesssa
7 days post
One week post -- itchy eyes, tight feeling, eyes look werid
TesssaJune 30, 2014
I wake up and can barely look in the mirror. My eye shape is still weird. I don't think I look any more swollen but when I glance in the mirror I make sure to open my eyes wider so I don't freak out because they're smaller and hooded. I think mornings are not a good time to look anyway and one should wait until their eyes are less swollen in the first place. I have itchy eyes, a leaden feeling and tight feeling in the head and feel anxiety. I'm sure the anxiety is just from me thinking about it, and not from the Botox itself (I know there are people who think it causes it. I don't. I think obsessing on something that is making your face relax is what causes it) but it's hard to not think about when I can feel this stuff. That's a large problem -- the tightness in the forehead (that really makes me anxious) and the itchiness. If I didn't feel it, I might just forget about worrying about what I look like. When will the tight feeling go away? I have read some people totally FREAKED out on here and I wonder if they're nuts. I feel for them because there is another problem -- if you scrutinize every little thing happening in your face, you're going to start seeing more and more and maybe stuff you never noticed before. When you wake up fearing the worst, you start having a warped perception. I know there is change. I didn't just wake up one day with dysmorphia. And this happened before (boy, I should have learned from the first time -- even with this conservative dose). But I also know I'm being way too hard on myself about something no one one the street would notice. If I get a zit or a rash or my eyes are swollen from being tired or too much salt, I laugh it off. I'm not someone who cares about that kind of thing. But that's just natural living. Having something that's you put in yourself that's gonna stick around for so long makes you feel guilty (who, other than those who've gone through this, are going to feel for you? And why should they?), trapped, and just counting the days. It's not like I look freakish. But I don't look like how I want to look and it's really distressing when your EYES change. That's your eyes! Your eyes are who you. I really, really hope this lets up and relaxes in a month. It took me about a month and a half last time but that time it was the reverse. I had touched up my 11 a month after having my forehead and it froze everything and my forehead dropped. This time I did the opposite, to be safe. Did my 11 line and frown lines a month and two weeks prior (as I said before looked great -- lots of movement -- maybe even too much for some people who do this). And then I touched up my forehead with just two units (!), or so he said, a month later, waited two and a half weeks and had about 6-8 more units. So, 10 to 12 total. I am literally counting back to the time I had the 2-4 units. That will be a month ago in a few days. I have no idea if that little amount will dissipate faster than the second injection and create some relief from this sooner, but maybe? Or does it just build from that one? I would think the latter and it's just two weeks. Now I know if I ever do the forehead again, which is highly unlikely, I should stick to 2-4 units total. Or nothing. I hear this peaks at the two week mark. Never sure what that means. Like it's just working all furiously or it's DONE? I have also read full effects usually, in one week, with everything all stabilized by two weeks. I really really hope nothing else changes after today, the first week mark. I'm not sure if I'm going to go to my doctor for follow up. I'm scared he'll want to do some extra touch ups and I do not want a needle near my face. I'm also afraid he'll wave me off like I'm overreacting and that will make me feel lousy. I think they, even the most experienced and nice ones, get so sick and tired of crazy botox ladies flipping about every little thing. I also think that's uncool because their job is to point out every little thing on your face they can fix. Sometimes problems you never even noticed yourself. It's their business to work on vulnerable women, so, surprise, now she's really vulnerable. If something was a big enough deal to spend money on and fix, it's a big enough deal to be upset when the outcome isn't positive, even if it's not a disaster. We don't spend money on this to have someone say "It's not THAT bad" we do so we feel pretty and refreshed and barely noticeable. I'll keep you posted of my progress. Sorry I haven't posted pictures. I can't deal with taking a photo of myself right now. I did take some yesterday, and I will post them when I'm feeling braver.
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October 28, 2015
By freezing muscles, that causes muscle loss & that's what makes the face sag & droop. You need to do the opposite; face muscles meed to be worked-out (in a gentle way), to make them stronger & enhance the collagen production naturally (proven). Look into Y.L.L Face Yoga - The Fascia Way
UPDATED FROM Tesssa
7 days post
One week Post -- Looked
TesssaJune 30, 2014
OK. Really looked. Eyes are more hooded today. And more on the right side where he injected a bit more. Very sad:( I hope this doesn't get worse.
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July 1, 2014
I can completely understand what you are going through! All your emotions, stress and obsession is a normal reaction to what just happened to you and your face. I experienced a similar situation, I naturally have big eyes and have always been told so... as we age the skin around our brow area tend to sag so I decided to have browlift to lift and remove my frown, the results were wonderful, my brows were lifted and my eyes were brighter and I looked great on pictures. I recieved a handful of treatments with the same great results from Dr 1, then I made a stupid move, I went to a different Dr for my usual touch up, Instead of the nice lift... my eyes and brows weighed heavily and weighed down, my natural eyes were reduced in size I was so devestated, I should have never strayed away from "Dr1". I must have looked up and googled every botox site online including youtube, I obsessed and inspected every muscle in my upper face and looked at a gazillion selfies. I went back to my original Dr who told me that time was the only option. It took me 9 months to finally get it almost back to how it was, I just recieved a browlift from Dr 1 who used to give me that great botox lift but ut is still not 100% where it was at. It will take one more treatment I think. So long story short; don't ever change a good botox regime... or change a good Dr if you are satisfied with the first outcome. Give it time and you will get your fresh face back! I feel with you because I am still not 100% there yet, I am close but not there. In time it will get to where it is supposed to get to but I know how you feel, it is not fun watching your face the way it is after a botox mistake when you know how good it can be or used to be. Hang in there and you will recover!
July 1, 2014
Thank you! And I'm sorry it took you so long to recover. I bet it looks better than you think because we are so very hard on ourselves. I've been hearing three months or less for this to wear off and I'm hoping that is the case. A note -- I did this once before -- seven months ago and the same thing happened. He used more that time and I thought this small amount would be fine. I don't know WHAT the hell I was thinking. It seems to have dropped more this time too. Why? Just random gravity or did he hit something weird. But that result went away in about two months. THANK GOD. I really really hope this one does too. It was such a small amount that I am in amazement this happened. I don't even have low brows or hooding to begin with and didn't need a brow lift so I seem in the safe zone. It's so distressing and weird. I look older now. My forehead is smooth but who cares? It really makes you understand how FEATURES are more important than a few dumb wrinkles. I'm not doing this again. Not in the forehead. The 11 line? Fine. Great. Nowhere else though. And you hang in there too. Again, it MUST look great now, in your case. I bet you look beautiful. Thanks for the encouragement:)
July 1, 2014
Thank you, the botox will wear off within 3 months, I had gone back after 3 months to try to get it fixed but again to a different Dr, and either the damage was to deep for the Dr to fix OR no one has the artistry and technique as my Dr 1, so a total of 9 months. I think it is the site of injections that need to be precise, and I felt the same way, I had no frown but I looked older and very tired, what's the point? I spent $400 to look tired and obsess everyday? The point of botox is not just to smooth out the wrinkles but to flatter or enhance your best features and to make you look cosmetically better. The Dr has to be super skilled and know exactly what muscles to hit to make the botox flatter your face, a pinprick off... and it does the opposite! In 3 months you will look back at this post and feel much better that you survived this ordeal. Nice talking to you, you are welcome to email me to talk further.
July 1, 2014
Aw, you're so nice. It's really an alone feeling, isn't it? And, yeah, the obsessing. Tomorrow will be day 8. I just hope this is the worst of it and my brow and lids won't continue to droop. I'm going for a follow up tomorrow. If he suggests any more for a fix, I am going to say a big fat NO. My doctor is incredibly experienced and I'm sure he thought this would be fine. I don't think he understood just how much my face can't tolerate this product in my forehead. I forgot to also add -- he did two units in my forehead about two weeks prior and it was just FINE. I barely noticed which is why I thought I was going a little nuts with the conservative amount. 2 units? So I waited and then he added more which is why I'm not sure if I've had 8 or 10 total. He probably should have just added 2 more units and that would have been that. Ugh. That remorseful feeling of getting that extra. And I was trying to be so very careful. I didn't even really need it. I remember my friend saying I looked great just two days before (he has no idea I do this). "You've never looked better!" He said. "So vibrant! Did you fall in love or something?" Oh, THAT is what you want to hear! I sure don't look in love now. Thanks again for the encouragement. I've had bad, stressful months where I looked tired, and I didn't lose my mind. I was just tired and looked wiped out. I'm going to try to think of this that way. But, yeah, I didn't spend money so I could tell everyone "Oh, I'm just not sleeping enough these days." Nice talking to you as well. I may hit you up on a private message. Take care:)
July 1, 2014
Hi, the same thing has happened to me except I got a total of 50 units in my 11 lines and forehead - it was my first time too! I have naturally open and pretty eyes and they were the thing I liked the most about my appearance. Now I cry when I look in the mirror :( does anyone have any experience with this and does it take long to wear off?
July 1, 2014
Thank you! Fingers crossed he is straight with me and gives me some good aftercare. Happy 4th to you too:)
July 1, 2014
Bridget. I'm so sorry! We're all going through this together so let's both hang in there and try to remain calm. It WILL go away. It will. This stuff feels like forever but it IS temporary. I know how distressing this is. This happened to me before and it was better before the three month wear off period. I would say it was all better by two and half months. I went to my doctor even earlier (my regular doctor, not my PS so he was being totally honest) by the two month mark and he said it looked absolutely normal. So, trust me, you are going to get better. Everything I've read states that that bad effect goes away anywhere from 5-8 weeks. Sometimes earlier. That range was about what my experience was. I stopped looking at myself for a month and a half. I did not look in the mirror and I wore glasses. I don't recommend that because it made me really withdrawn. Right now, I'm just trying to think, OK, I have a hooded eye look now. It's not what I want but that's what I have to live with for a while. I've looked up celebrities with hooded eyes (Jennifer Lawrence, Kate Moss etc.) and how they do their makeup and I'm just going for that look. I'm at day 8 and I am praying it doesn't get any worse because it's the first thing I think of when I wake up and I feel really depressed about it. Regret, depressed, not like myself. It's so much deeper than people understand. If it was a bad burn or a bruise -- things that sometimes take a month to heal -- I would be upset but I'd accept it and be OK. But this is our EYES. Our eyes set our face, not just in our looks but our personality. I have bright, big eyes with a lot of expression. Now they look tired and sad, and when I cry (which is a lot), my head can't even crinkle up normally because I've lost so much movement in my forehead. Once I reach the two week mark on Monday, I'm going to stop looking at my eyes so much and focus on my forehead movement. Once that starts moving more, that means the eyes will be raised. I have a major public event in two months. I am PRAYING this is better by then. At least some improvement. I don't know what you do for a living, if you're married, have a boyfriend, etc., but it helps to focus on doing something else for yourself while you wait for this to wear off. When this happened before I read a lot, watched entire seasons of TV I'd never seen, emailed friends. I almost treated it like I was under the weather for a while and did things to comfort myself. Like a very long cold where you stay in, eat soup and watch movies. I had strep throat when I was 19 that lasted an entire month and that's what I did. I also lost some weight, ate better, took care of my skin. Try to work on something else while you wait. I wish I hadn't stupidly done this again but I do remember the day I really looked in the mirror, really studied it (by two and a half months) and saw that it was all better. And guess what? I looked GREAT! My skin was flawless, I was thin, and my eyes were all back to normal with some of the Botox smoothness still present. So, again, TRUST ME. It will get better. It will. And I'm going to remind myself the same thing. Sending you warm vibes.
July 7, 2014
I'm so pleased to finally find this site because I am going to the same exact thing as all of you since May 30th. This last post really hit home because I've been doing nothing but hideout from anything fun all I do is go to work and home and wear glasses at work hoping no one will notice my droopy sad eyes. Pretending it was a sinus infection worked for a month... work doesn't believe me anymore. How depressing this is. 5 weeks and I see no change!!
But I have to share a trick ...we gotta stick together: You can scotch tape your forehead lifting your brows. Then wear a cute fedora hat to cover the scotch tape. AWESOME trick.
July 7, 2014
Wow voice text just doesn't express how traumatic this all has been...I just wanted you to know I completely share your pain, remorse, regret, and drama over investing $$$$ in what we expected to make ud look better...but got evil witch Botox eyes!!!
July 7, 2014
Hi Sandra, great trick, thaught about that too but sad I spent $450 to have to tape my forehead! Urg..... Thanks for replying, I'm glad Im not the only one! Bitox used to open my big eyes up more and lift, resulting in a wonderful look! Now, it looks like crap...but only because I know the Dr messed up. I won't give up on it! Yours should be fixed soon if it was done in May.
July 7, 2014
Sandra: I bet you'll be looking good very soon since, as Golden said, you got it done late May. I had my glabella done in Mid May and it's wearing off. I bet in a month this will be pretty much over for you. I'm so sorry though. And if you had less units up there but just can't tolerate it well, maybe sooner. I never understand that though. Doctors have given me different answers. "Oh, you only had 10 units. It will wear off sooner." Or, "It doesn't mater how many units, it only matters how much it froze your forehead." Well, which one? Why don't they know? Anyway, I've thought about the tape too (I think I even mentioned it in one of my updates). I had the luxury of not having to go into an office last time this happened to me, and I totally HID. I stopped looking at myself. And it was really depressing but, as I said, I got up one day and that stuff was gone. So gone that I stupidly did it again. So, I'm telling you, it will be gone. You're going to feel better and you will hopefully laugh about it as that cray-crazy Botox episode. Hang in there. You're getting better every day.
July 7, 2014
The tape works great to go out in public...but I agree. We shouldn't have to use any remedy after investing so much money!!
Sad thing is unless you wear a hat people wonder why you have scotch tape on your forhead. And I cannot wear a hat my desk job! I see absolutely NO improvement after 5 weeks. I'm told it will be gradual, not fast. That is depressing because my birthday was a bust and my summer is ruined!
July 9, 2014
Into my sixth week...not seeing anything in the mirror except a mean looking Hoot Owl. I'm so praying for this to ease up a bit. I am single...I'm depressed...I'm pissed at myself for doing this.
I know time is our friend. But tick-tock tick-tock!
Maybe tomorrow will finally show a glimmer of hope...
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Try not to overwork your active head muscles and they will enlarge. Wait til about 3 months when the Botox poison starts releasing it's grip.
Lymph drainage massage really helped .
B vitamin Coenzymated complex (food based)
Large doses of vitamin C for tissue repair. I'm taking liposomal C.
I started taking pycnogenol. Someone mentioned it in this site for tissue repair and health.
Eat really well. We have been poisoned and need to heal.
Drink lots of filtered water.
Coffee seemed to worsen it. Take out all neurotoxins like aspartame etc.
By I think the 20th day my cheeks finally released. They were locked in position. It was awful. I massaged my face a lot.
By the 10th week the migrating drift eased and seemed to stop. I do think it was due to the vitamins and different health foods I'm eating.
My eyebrows still are droopy in the middle and heightened on the sides but less severely. My smile is altered . I feel there is going to be permanent change. But it has eased.
The doctors are liars that say this is temporary and everything goes back to normal.
Any permanent changes they will say are due to normal aging. Jerks and thieves