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Hopeless After Three Surgeries

First rhinoplasty was to reduce bulbous tip,...

First rhinoplasty was to reduce bulbous tip, shorten the nose and improve my profile which i felt was too pointy. While the cast was on i could tell it was SIGNIFICANTLY crooked. Looked like the doc may have sewed the columella and tip on crooked? There was NO definition at all on one side...it was if it were completely empty of cartilage and was being pulled flat...also one HUGE nostril and one tiny one.

Went back to the same doc for revision he did a closed rhinoplasty and did VERY little..reduced side of the columella that appeared to be potruding in the large nostril and did a placed a tiny graft near the tip TO GIVE THE APPEARANCE OF BEING STRAIGHT. he tried to hide the problem rather than fix it.

3rd revision...different doc...he vastly improved the appearance of the crooked tip but it is still not right but NOW one side is STILL flat and the other now has a dent and ball on the other side...PLUS now when i smile there is pulling inside!

Horrible rhinoplasty experience. Much research has left me hopeless...i have not seen ONE rhinoplasty case that looks like mine...so i am thinking NO ONE is going to be able to fix this..

i think the primary doc sewed my collumella and tip on crooked....now 3 rhinos in...maybe i am beyond help? after last rhino tip is straighter but one side of nose is completely flat and lacking ANY definition ANYWHERE. The other side has a dent and ball on the side. Anyone know a GREAT doc? Is there such a thing??

Went for revision with rib grafts in Dallas, Tx....

went for revision with rib grafts in Dallas, Tx. Now have collapse on one side with worsened breathing

Dr. Gabriel Saab of Cosmesurge, Kuwait

3 out of 5 stars Overall rating
3 out of 5 stars Doctor's bedside manner
3 out of 5 stars Answered my questions
3 out of 5 stars After care follow-up
2 out of 5 stars Time spent with me
5 out of 5 stars Phone or email responsiveness
5 out of 5 stars Staff professionalism & courtesy
5 out of 5 stars Wait tmes
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Please look up Dr.Jack Gunter in Dallas Texas. He fixed my very damages nose and no I do not work for him. Amazing man and artist. Very honest and loving and caring.
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I'm sorry for your story..Was your first or second surgery done with Dr.Gabriel Saab?
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If I ended up needing another revision or had to use rib, I think I would go to Dr. Le. My consult with him was 2.5 hours, asked the most questions, took time with imaging. He seems very precise. I ended up having my revision in L.A. and I am pretty satisfied so far but think I may need to have my one nostril brought down lower. If I ended up with a major collapse or something, I think I would go to Dr. Le. L.A. was more out of the fact that it would be much more of a hassle to go the east coast but if my situation warranted, I wouldn't hesitate.
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hi maribor- just saw this, can I ask who did your revision in LA? I need revision & having a hard time deciding who to go to. I'm in LA and have started to look at other states, but would love to stay close to home. any info is greatly appreciated! thank you!
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So sorry for what you are going through! Try to reach others that are going through the same thing as you.... it sure has helped me to be in correspondence with others that have suffered through a bad rhinoplasty experience. I hope that you can some day soon find a capable doctor and find a peaceful relationship with your nose. Wishing you the best!
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Hello I would like to help you with your rhinoplasty I know you are upset but there is not need to be down on yourself. You could do something proactive and help as a volunteer at a homeless shelter or go somewhere to help sick kids ... that helped me anyway. I can tell you of a fabulous Dr in Australia His name is Dr Tavakoli , he is located in sydney He has fixed my breathing and the appearance of my nose i strongly suggest him You could even skype him Don't give up hope there are other people like u in this world WE are all here to help one another XXX
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Can you please post some pre and post operation photos?
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I just wanted to add one more comment that may help some people here. I was suicidal for several years after my surgery. My self-esteem was zero for at least 10 years after my surgery. I now think a component of that was because I couldn't sleep well because I couldn't breath through my nose. Regardless, my life has turned out so well. At the time, I never could have imagined that a woman as great as my wife would marry me and I have a job most people would love to have. I still think about my nose a lot (here I am posting this!), but sometimes I wonder if I wouldn't have been as successful if it hadn't been for my nose because, at times, I used the depression to drive myself. Remember, your nose isn't as important as you think it is.
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Very powerful and helpful, what you wrote. I am getting more depressed by my nose by the day. A lot of us go into this so we can move on from our noses and focus on more important things, yet those of use with undesirable outcomes become consumed with it even more so. Such a challenge, and a gamble either way when facing the decision of revision. I am so thankful you found the good in life and are still amongst us. I could never dream I would be so crushed by a surgery. Thank you for giving some hope.
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During the few years after my first surgery, I used to look at my nose in the mirror at least 4-5 times per hour. Eventually, I put all that energy into moving my life forward. Obsessive thoughts of my nose persisted, but they were more of a nuisance than overwhelming. I became obsessive about moving my life forward, and it worked.
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I want to let everyone on this page know something. What happened to my nose was devastating at the time and I still suffer because of it 37 years later. I am still occasionally asked about what happened to my nose and as I wrote, I don't sleep well because I can't breath through my nose, even though I use stents in my nose at night, and I need to take naps every day. However, besides my nose, my life has turned out to be one that most people would envy. Try to focus on life away from your nose. It isn't as important as you think.
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It is so hard though. 16 years of this feeling. Bless you for your kind words and gentle advice. I hope you are well.
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How are you now? Thank you for sharing with us your journey. I am also looking for a surgeon to perform my 3rd rhinoplasty. So difficult to choose one. My nose need to be lengthened and projected. I'm from Spain and feel completely devasted adn psycologically exhausted. I understand your feelings so much. If you or anyone in the same situation want to contact me, my e-mail address is: misslila2@gmail.com I believe that sharing information at this point is crucial for a good final outcome. Best wishes! PS: I wish I had my original nose back too. :(
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And by the way your cas is not beyond help iv seen wors with dr sam you can chick his website www.samrizk.com
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please watch out i had rhinoplasty with sam he mess my nose he is not a revision rhinoplasty expert but yes he is very expensive
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Dr Sam rizk but his revisions are extremely expensive
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can I see your latest photos?
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Checking on you? Were you able to fix your nose? I can't believe you had to go through all this. I hope everything turned out okay.
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Thanks for checking on me Kaluagirl.


I still have trouble with my nose every day. Trying everything to breath properly at night so I can sleep. I am getting some nasal stents that are only available in Germany. Still, 36 years after my first surery, bothered by the way my nose looks.


I been very lucky in life otherwise. I have a job most people with kill for and last February I married my dream woman.

I hope you are doing ok.
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I hope you're doing okay. I have a similar story. My first rhino was an epic fail. The surgeon who tried to fix it did a horrible job. I kept going back. Now I have a horrible looking tip. You can see grafts, one side is higher then the other, and one has more cartilage. I will not be returning to the previous surgeon. I hated my original nose and I am still miserable. I have no faith in rhinoplasy surgery anymore. I just pray some miracle filler comes out in the next few years.
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I'm also considering a 3rd revision (the second one was more of an in-office rebreak which very little). What kind of prices are you getting quoted?
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Hi q8madam,

Check this out. Hope its useful.

http://www.realself.com/review/revision-rhinoplasty-great-success-after-rhinoplasty-surgeries
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I am 56. I have relived the following story in my mind thousands of times. When I was twenty, I went to an ENT to have a deviated septum corrected to improve my breathing. He asked me if I wanted him to remove the bump from my nose when he fixed my septum. I asked, "What bump?". He said, "you don't see a bump, I don't see a bump." The morning of my surgery, he brought it up again: he drew two profiles of noses, one with a bump and one without. I reluctantly agreed to go ahead with the removal. The result: over the next 8 years, I had about 8 revisions by 4 different surgeons, that included placement of silastic, auricular cartilage, and finally costal cartilage, which now forms the entire dorsum and columella of my nose. My nose is distorted and you can see the cartilage though the skin at the tip. I keep antibiotics on hand, because the tip of my nose frequently becomes infected. After my first surgery, I started waking up a lot at night, and I have actually NEVER slept through the entire night since. I also have suffered from depression most of my adult life. I now know that both of these problems were due to sleep apnea that was likely brought about because I have not been able to breath well through my nose since my first surgery. Using CPAP for my apnea is difficult because my breathing through my nose is terrible and I can't use a mask that rests on my nose because the skin over the costal cartilage becomes irritated within minutes by the mask. Because of these problems, my sleep apnea is only partially treated.
The ENT's office was at as classy an address as one can have. It was right on Central Park, just south of the Dakota (where John Lenin lived with Yoko). He also had an office in Astoria, which has long been a Greek neighborhood. My understanding is that a lot of physicians had their offices there because Greeks always pay with cash so it is easy to hide their payments from the IRS.
With the advent of the internet, I discovered that he lost his license for insurance fraud and incompetence in 2000. There are also stories on the internet that he killed someone in a car accident, that he was sued by a patient that he gave breast injections to (why was an ENT doing that?), and he got a restraining order against his former wife, who was addicted to drugs (did he originally give them to her?). He died several years ago and he was subsequently missed by his bridge club.

This has all been surreal. I always wonder how different my life would have been had I never gone to him.
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Have any of you heard of Dr. David Kim in SF? I was wanting to see him for a revision....
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Yes, I have actually emailed him. I have decided to see an ENT here who has a interest in sleep apnea first. Another surgeon to consider is Steven Park in NYC. I am interested in your story and what your experience is if you go to Dr. Kim.
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