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Incognito Braces, Never Again - Kirkland, QC

UPDATED FROM darveau
2 months post

Now have regular braces

darveauJuly 24, 2013
$13,000
Feels great. No problem to swallow, talk or eat.Barely visible.
Completely delighted with results so far. Teeth move fast and no pain.

Should have opted for those in the first place. Incognito was a big mistake.

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Dr george papanastasoulis

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Dr Papanastasoulis is the best. Very professional, kind and taking all the time you need with you. He understands your needs and follows-up with you on a regular basis, even after hours. Staff is great and attentive to your concerns. My negative experience with Incognito has nothing to do with him

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dmstaples81
August 1, 2013
I wore Incognito braces for 2 years and my dentist finally said he though we had to try the regular brackets on the outside. I didn't have the issues with eating and swallowing, but removal was quite painful. If I could do it all over again I would have just went with the clear brackets from the get go. I am currently in regular braces and have about 3 more months to go. Ugh! So over it!!
Mary Jo l
November 13, 2013
I'm in my 15th month of incognito's. It was my 60th birthday present to myself. I never had braces and my orthodontist has be using me as her trial patient( guinie pig)! It's been painful on my tounge mostly but it get better. I think my speech bothers me the most, I have to repeat, a lot. There has been choking and spittle but I think it has all been worth it. The time has gone by fast and I am almost done! You need a positive attitude and live with some pain.
wrivermeer
August 1, 2014
It's a horrible [RS bleep] invention and should be outlawed. You must be one of the few on this planet that has been able to stand them. More power to you. Maybe a skilled and compassionate orthodontist makes a difference.
JonL
March 18, 2014
I was about to go in for Incognito consultation, but I now realize it's not going to work for me. I am a busy physician and cannot have so much impairment in my speech and eating. Glad I found this site because Nobody talks about Incognito's intolerances, limitations, and side effects. It's only here that I learned people with crowns will have big problems with Incognito due to adhesives coming off crowns all the time and Incognito lining up the inside arch, so the thicker crowns protrude forward for crooked lipside arch!
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TwoPlusOne
March 19, 2014
I'm so glad you found it helpful!  I learned the same thing from reading one of the other reviews on here.  It makes so much sense when you think about it, that it straightens the teeth from the back, so different thicknesses of teeth will leave you with a less-than-straight front arch.  But I'd certainly never thought of it!  Are you going to consider a different treatment now?  Like Invisalign or some other clear braces, or ceramic braces?
darveau
March 19, 2014
I now have regular braces for the last 10 months. Comfortable and easy to take care of. Barely visible. Believe it or not, my orthodontist says the treatment is almost finished for the upper teeth! I am extremely happy with the results so far. I might get Invisalign for the lower teeth in the summer. Time went fast and no pain. I do not regret giving up on Incognito.
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TwoPlusOne
March 19, 2014
That's wonderful to hear!  You should review that experience as well!  You stayed with the same doctor, right?
darveau
October 11, 2014
Did you get external braces? I am also a busy physician. Incognito did not work for me. Had them removed after 1month. External braces did a fabulous job after 17 months. Spectacular result. Happy i did get rid of those horrible lingual braces. Pure hell.
wrivermeer
August 1, 2014
My ex-"orthodontist" couldn't have cared less that the lingual braces were making my life a living hell. I stupidly paid up front, and that was another humongous mistake besides letting him pretend to know how to apply these Marat Sade devices. I was teaching English as a second language while I wore those horrible, evil contraptions, and talk about a speech impediment! The only good thing about that prison sentence was losing twenty pounds. When I insisted on having the top removed after a year of being tortured, I still had a speech impediment and the back of the top teeth felt like sandpaper and still do. The roof bordering those teeth also feel like sandpaper. I wore the bottom lingual braces for a year and a half, and they weren't so bad. The upper were entirely nothing short of a Dr. Mengele experiment, and my "orthodontist" in Midlothian, VA, couldn't have cared less. Six years later, my teeth don't look any better, I have to chew gum in order to not have a speech impediment and to maintain saliva flow, I have a deep bite now, and there is no cure to date for the sandpaper sensation behind the teeth. Any orthodontist who suggests lingual or agrees to apply them should lose his/her license. They obviously don't care about their patients if they would agree to implementing this torture. These linguals should be illegal.
jdo416
October 9, 2014
it costed me 10 k to put the lingual brace on, not more than a year, I had to remove it,
darveau
October 10, 2014
You are really amazing if you could tolerate those Incognito braces for 1 year. I had them removed after 1 month, and went for regular braces. Now upper teeth free of braces after 17 months, spectacular result without too much pain and speech impediment. Would not recommend lingual braces if teeth are really crooked. everybody is different. People must know what they are getting into before paying and having them fixed to your mouth. Good luck to you. Darveau
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TwoPlusOne
October 10, 2014
Why did you have to remove them?
darveau
October 11, 2014
They were painful, could not swallow nor speech properly. Would drool at night on my pillow. Once the external braces were put on, no more problems. For cheek irritation, geeshee goo is fabulous. Could not have done without it for 17months. Now gorgous smile, braces off, spectacular result. Good luck with your treatment H
UPDATED FROM darveau
25 days post

24 hours after having my Incognito braces out, I had my first real meal

darveauJune 16, 2013

24 hours after having my Incognito braces out, I had my first real meal in almost a month. No problem to chew nor swallow. The outside braces are easy to care of and barely show when I smile.

Life has gone back to normal. Thank you Dr George, you have a happy patient here.

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Megan P
June 19, 2013

So glad to hear you are feeling better now that you have had your bond style changed. I would love it if you would start a review in our traditional Braces community as well so we can hear how your treatment goes from here on out. :)

UPDATED FROM darveau
24 days post

Had the Incognito braces off yesterday. A lot of pain to have them removed

darveauJune 15, 2013

Had the Incognito braces off yesterday. A lot of pain to have them removed as if each of my teeth was pulled out! Pure hell for an hour, but the good news is I can now speak properly, swallow, and not quite eat but this is a start.

Incognito, never again. The orthodontist was nice enough to open up his clinic just for me as Fridays are his days off. Nevertheless, I think he felt my pain was more than I could tolerate. I will be eternally grateful for his availability and understanding.

Now i can speak like a normal person and stop drooling at night. Swallowing is normal and outside braces are well tolerated. I am looking forward to eating some of the lobster festival food soon.

Adios Ensure, Boost, scrambled eggs and yogourt. Finally I resigned from my vanity and my life with Incognito, outside braces are not bad looking. Furthermore they add volume to your lips, a free cosmetic surgery as far as I am concerned. They make you look younger.

Think twice before having these Incognito braces inside your mouth. They can make your life pure hell. I am a pro outside braces now. Just looking at the Incognito add at the door of my orthodontist's clinic, I see a nice looking woman, smiling with perfect teeth. Who said she is wearing Incognito in the first place?? To me she did not need them anyway. Do not believe what you see, in for big and expensive disappointment.

Take my word for was it is worth of, vanity is useless. Think comfort and 2 years with these in your mouth. the decision will be easy.

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NEON8L
July 30, 2015
Yeah, they are only "incognito" until you have to speak, then people will think you are drunk, on drugs, or have some speech disability.
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