My First Time Filler Under Eyes is Artefill - Houston, TX

Don't you have a before and after picture? Maybe you needed more and just not enough product. Most people would think I don't have hardly any naso-labials and marionette lines but I see it and the doctor said I need 6 vials in my whole face and he trains other doctors. I once had a little restalyne and Juvaderm in that area and it was also barely noticable... I think it was 2 and one half vials total and there was a difference but not to my satisfaction and I didn't want to spend more on something that wasn't permanent.

After reading all this, I'm thinking this is the best advice particularly around the eyes as for myself, I've never had anything injected and I want to see what the result would be as I'm really looking for something to affect the folds of undereye wrinkles when I smile.

I had artefill and after 4 months have hard lumps under both eyes and the wrinkles stand out more than before.Also have 2 nodules on left side of mouth and one on right, each are the size of the tip of your index finger.I wish I had never heard of artefill.My Dr. asked if I had trouble with scaring, which I don't so his solution was to add restalyne beside noules under eyes to help even them out.Didn't work.Have had consult with plastic surgeon.

This is a tough one, but I would suggest cortisone injected into that lump. Collagen doesnt dissapate that quickly...it could be there for months. Get rid of it with a steroid. I used to get collagen injections as fillers before HA's came along. Cortisone is cheap & easy for doc to do. Please look into this. Go to another doc if u must, but the person who did this should do it gratis until it is gone!!!

Again, cortisone is the only antidote to get rid of lumps from artefill. I had silicone years ago...I know all too well!

Yes, does sound like you need to see a plastic surgeon who can remove it. Good luck.

I had a tiny amount of silicon 1000 in my lips in 2009 and didn't have any bad reaction other than I felt like there was barely any noticable difference...Maybe over the years collegen has formed as my lips might be a little fuller but not worth the 800.

In Tampa Florida, Dr. Richard Castellenjo has been using it for 8 years and he is the one who is training other doctors so that's who I would go to and he said I need 6 syringes around my face and eyes as well. He did talk about little at a time so not sure if that means not putting it in all at once or what so I'll have to ask him more questions as I really wasn't well enough prepared when I had the consult.

Hi Chellamia. I was really interested in the Artefill. I am in the Tampa area, and I usually research everything to death! lol I see this is an older post, so if you respond, I really appreciate it. I wondered if if you had it done, and how it worked out for you. Also, you said he said he needed 6 syringes, do you know how many were specifically for under your eyes? You may not have had it done, or remember, but if you do, I appreciate any advise you can give!!!!!! Thanks, Lisa

My thoughts as I read what you wrote were first that I could afford 8 syringes of any filler! The second interesting thing you said was that you got your undereyes filled just before your CO2 laser procedure...and this has been something I was toying around with, wanting to do a second Co2 around my eyes, but wondering if I should get a eye filler before or after the CO2 because such a procedure leads to a lot of lymphatic drainage and I'd hate to waste another filler. I'm glad Artefill worked for you. I really don't think I'd ever try it again. Some people just do not react to certain things and it seemed like the biggest waste of my life. I had a full syringe put under each eye and it deflated within 10-12 days and now 3 months later I've seen zero results. I think the only filler I'd ever trust again is Perlane because it's so thick. I only had one inject 3-4 yrs ago and still never needed a touch up around my mouth commas. That's great sustaining power. I'd try the new stuff called Silicon 1000 before I'd try Artefill again. The one and only way I'd try Artefill again is if someone did it for free. I didn't have good results and can't chance losing money again. I won't even consider Sculptra cause I want nothing that I have to wait for results for. I want immediate results.

You must see my immediate results for Juvaderm Ultra and 20 units of Botox Special. No bruising immediate results. Great Spa. Look for my write up.

It sounds like the collagen went away very quickly for you, but you should still be gaining your own tissue building up around the PMMA spheres for 6-12 months out. Artefill takes patience in waiting for your body to respond and I know that is hard for many of us. But you WILL get some lasting results from it. I see that you had some Juvederm placed recently, perhaps that will give you the immediate satisfaction while your Artefill continues to work which in the end should make you happy for several years : ) God Bless!

hi,
can you give me more info on where you work [or had the filler injected ] Dr. etc.
i am a bruiser, used arnica/bromelain before with no results, any ideas to minamize bruising ?
thanks
juki

I am trying to decide b/w artefill or radiesse on tuesday. My filler is very good so whatever I get he does a GREAT job and if anyone needs someone in the central VA area I can suggest several great docs. I know the plastic surgeons and nurses et al keep pushing it, but honestly, it's hard to believe them since I know they make more off of it and who knows what the results will be. And of course they don't need to consider cost like us mere mortals do. I tried sculptra and had NO results from a whole lot of it, so why should I trust artefill? I was promised great results by the doctor who injected my sculptra and even the nurse assisting her said she had it and it worked.....then later I saw the nurse's pics in the office's JUVEDERM portfolio, so I felt really lied to. I cannot completely trust even my favorite doctors -- I hate to say this but when it comes to money I trust real people on here, NEVER THE DOCTORS! Too many people have had negative results or no results from doctors promising the world in a syringe. Plus who knows what could happen years down the line as the face shifts and sags with age, with a bizarre foreign implant in there? For all I know I could end up getting lumpy look in the wrong place. I trust real people like T in Texas, not the RNs and docs who keep pushing this to us poor women who cannot afford eight syringes (that's over 8000 dollars!) but simply want a refreshed look. I do agree that artefill looks more natural and less puffy, but since I want it in the temples I don't care about future results for more money now, I care about real results I can see. So I am heading towards Radiesse. Hmm that's all in the process of writing this.... Thank you T in Texas! (The only bad thing I have seen with temporary fillers is that they don't last, but that's the price we pay for no problems down the line. To paraphrase a doctor from this website, temporary fillers = temporary problems, permanent fillers = permanent problems.)

oh btw someone was asking about what to do to prevent bruising. Arnica before, and sinecch (every good injector carries this) which is an herbal pill that lessens bruising after. Now it doesn't work to completely eradicate bruises -- that's time plus icing, icing, icing -- but it does help. They give it with every fill at the place I go to. I think it's just extra super-duper arnica but I cannot remember for sure. And NO ASPIRIN (thins the blood) beforehand!

Val...u r the 1st person to mention microdroplet. I had silicone & its still in my lips 25 years later. Love it, but did have many lumps in forehead & actually had to have one surgically removed. I would love to have this under my eyes but too afraid from previous silicone. Anything else u have to reassure me? Thank u!!!!

Hi, lazyee, I have Silicon 1000 in my lips as well and love it - however I would not place it elsewhere in the face. In the lips it feels completely natural when placed with micro droplet technique over 3-5 treatments ( no more that 0.25cc per treatment). As with Artefill-any long term filler needs to be addressed over several treatments-shooting for near perfection not one & done speed. The only filler I am comfortable placing in the under eye area is Artefill. 1/2 syringe paced under each eye per treatment can work wonders. With that said, I will also tell you that I have treated many women that came in complaining of under eye deficit and dark circles with just Fractional laser and have achieved great results without filler. Each clients' needs are unique but if your under eye deficit is light to moderate you might try a fractional laser treatment or a series of peels to both tighten the skin and build collagen ( our body's own natural filler). Also-do not confuse fractional laser with fraxil! A good Fractional laser treatment is going to give you about 4-5 days downtime and is SO worth it! At some point in time as we age, we all need to address the need for skin tightening - NEVER overfill loose skin-it will make you look puffy and odd! To turn back time and look natural it has to be a combination of all over skin tightening-resurfacing and replacing lost volume. Fractional laser from your hairline to your décolletage and touching up volume with filler can take 10-15 years off any woman without surgery while addressing the hardest to correct areas such as around the lips & eyes! As far as reassurance with any of this-it's provider dependent on what your outcome is. Take the time to pick a provider you feel good about and stick with them. Someone that has great before and after pictures of similar results that you are looking for-that commits to making a long-term plan with you and working with you/and your feedback to achieve your desired results. People that Groupon and price shop for everything are rarely ever satisfied. Groupons/coupons and price shopping are for shoes and groceries NOT your face : ) Note-you said you had lumps in your forehead-before ever getting filler in your forehead your provider should do a good botox treatment 2 weeks previous. There is so much dynamic muscle movement in the brow/forehead area that if you do not relax these muscles before placing filler it is very possible for you to bunch it up. Where you have lines/deficits in your forehead is where you have had two muscles coming together that over time has created those craters-those muscles will do the same to eve the best placed filler. BTW- Fractional laser will tighten your forehead, smooth lines and give a great brow lift! ~Val

ValRN....I'm sooooooooooooooo glad I kept reading and got to see your very helpful comments and I wish you would repost this with a heading about how satisfied you are with before and after pictures as all these horror stories are just confusing the heck out of everyone and when people don't post pictures...I tend to start questioning it although what do you think happened with the woman whose eyes look the same three months after she had the injections? 62percent are happy SO WHERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE? Clearly, the people getting these nodules weren't tested for an allergy and/or they are in the minority of those who can have a bad reaction and do you think the doctor should be responsible to take it out if a nodule forms? It seems like they must be getting the artefill put in by under experienced therapists and this is not something I would want to be a guini pig for. I am so glad to hear you say how it works well around the eyes as Dr. Richard Castellenjo who I just had a consult with said I need six and he said it would help around my eyes ideally along with carbon dioxide laser tx. I had one fractional laser with IPL and my face looks refreshed but it didn't do anything as far as tightening under my eyes. I don't show any wrinkles around my eyes except a whole bunch when I smile! and I've been told there is not enough skin to cut it so have to find another way to make that look more natural. Thank you again and I really hope you have advice for me as well as Tin Texas

I'm going to ask my doctor who teaches other doctors the artfill if that's normal to have nothing noticable after three months. Val RN seems to believe that collegen will form but what did the doctor say and why didn't he at least inject more or something else at cost at the very least? Now that you published his name, he probably won't and did you give him the option to help you? Did he say the same thing as Val RN? I am so curious why you had no response and what was his explanation and how could you just let him get away with that if you have clear before and after pictures? I had a problem with my ears and the doctor fixed it for free but that was in Costa Rica. Also, if you look on my pictures, somewhere I think I posted the before/after of the silicon 1000 in my lips and I was very disappointed as like you , I didn't notice any difference but years later...it looks like something has changed so maybe the collegen did grow like Val RD was talking about? If you want to see them, send a private message. How do I see your Juvaderm pics?

Hey Val since oh posted this so long ago, I am curious if you are experiencing any lumpy nodules?