Face Exercises Work

Hi Saomai, I have been exercising my face since 2010. The right side of my face responded very quickly. The left side of my face is very reluctant and slow. My left side was aging faster than my right side too. I believe if you are white or of Indian heritage and around 40 you have to be quite aggressive with the exercises. If you are black and around 40, very gentle exercises will suffice. I do not know how people from the far east would respond, but generally they age quite slowly. People in their 20s should only do exercises to make them aware of their muscles and not actually try to exercise their faces. This is because their faces are perfectly balanced and exercising will negatively affect the balance. Please note there are always people who are exceptions. You asked me about nasolabial lines in a pm. My nasolabial line exercises have to be demonstrated because they are hard to explain in words. BUT I did find an excellent website which described an exercise which I believe would work well. I need to find it again. And I don't think I am allowed to post external links on this site. If I find it again, I will pm you.

Saomai. You are welcome :) Good luck starting your program. Honey bee is amazing for sharing all of her info and experience with us! Keep coming back here to update us on your journey. Let's keep this thread alive!

Hello Honey Beee!! Thank you so much for taking your time answering me and others as well. I really learn a lot with every single post of yours! I have noticed as well, the different way of aging according to ethnicity. I fully agree with you! I quited face exercising after one month of practice ( exercises found on youtube) because I developped deeper NLF, resulting in a monkey mouth. Now after 2 months of rest, even if my condition has ameliorated, the lines are still there and would like to learn how to target the muscles correctly. I found your pictures which corresponded exactly to my nightmare lines. For fear of developing more severe lines, I have asked you more detailed instructions of the NLF exercise. And I really trust your advice. A few days ago, I have started your exercises, and like a miracle, after doing the lip and the naso labial exercise, i look in the mirror and my lips are full, and the NSF filled in!!! ( though the crease on the corner of my upper lip, on the left side, still very noticeable). But I couldn't believe it!!! The result was dramatic, after no more than 15 min of exercise! But after a while, the effect of plumpness and lifting faded. The day after, I wanted to try again, and I succeded with the lip exercise, but not so with the NL exercise, I couldn't remember how I did succeed so well last night. Do you think this effect will be "permanent", if I work consistently? Because it is a real marvel. And I do have a question: The edge of the face exercise: how to lift each cheek with the muscles that lie along the edge of the face? I can't image how to target these muscles. Well, I'm well aware it is summer,and it is probably time for holidays, spent with the loved ones. Thanks for your generosity and thanks to be here. When you have time, and enjoy to come by to share with us your knowledge, i 'll be happily waiting!!! In the meantime, I'll keep on practicing and will keep you updated!

you look great in the pics, seriously! I could care less about the NL folds at this point since I am practically obsessed with having wider or higher cheeks and that is one of my main wishes. This seems a good way to do that. I would love if I could get my neck and jawline tauter and this is worth trying since it doesn't seem it could make it worse.

Why would someone in their 20s be doing this? Jeez in their 20s? Kinda sad....I was having fun in my 20s not stressing over aging! Guess that's what tv and advertising have done to poor twenty year olds, made them worry like 40 year olds!

prevention is better than cure ;)

That's like saying why would someone in their 20's not do yoga or exercise? smh

Hi Saomai, the plumpness you experienced is a temporary muscle pump. Eventually the temporary muscle pump becomes permanent if you do the exercises regularly. :) The reason you were not able to achieve the same effect the second time round is because you did not do the exercise exactly the same. It is very easy to change the focus of the muscle contraction. Sometimes I forget how I achieved a certain muscle contraction and I have to "play" around with my face a little bit to try to get it right again. You are struggling with the edge of the face exercise because your muscles are weak. Strengthen your scalp muscles and face muscles and especially the ones that lie around your ears and towards your temples. So glad to hear you saw the positive effects after only 15 minutes. This is because you did the exercise correctly. I have read that sometimes face exercises make the face look worse before it looks better. THIS IS NOT TRUE in my experience. The face should look better immediately after the exercises because it is a preview of what your face will look like in a few months.

Hi Nadiahoney, have a look at Tulisa Contostavlos. She's only 26! Google "Daily Mail Tulisa admits to having cosmetic surgery". She seems to be in the process of wrecking her face. Because the pattern of the filler injections is always the same, the women (and men) who get them tend to all start looking the same, as if they are clones of each other. I would say that Tulisa, Kim K and Pete Burns all seem to look alike. In fact Pete Burns is the spitting image of one of my friends who got extensive surgery in her mid twenties (chin reduction, cheek implants, nose job, endotine lift, fillers in lips and fillers in cheeks to hide the edges of the implants).

Hi nadiahoney, google "daily mail, tulisa admits to having plastic surgery". The article shows pictures of tulisa contostavlos who is only 26. She's gone overboard with the fillers.

I saw a few pics, I had never heard of her. I thought she looked good, to be honest -- not too far gone. I would LOVE to have that pretty look (although in some of the pics it was starting to go overboard a BIT.) 26 is definitely far too young and that's awful for sure. Kim K went way worse than Tulisa imo. Esp. when she is seen live and is overfilled. In the end the worst part of all is that the surgeons are indeed creating these weird looking copies because they have been told or convinced that this is the one way to look good, like those 80s nose jobs that can never be repaired -- look at Kim Kardashian's mom. There are tons of those all over LA (my sis used to live there and I had to learn to stop staring at the bad surgery pretty quickly when I visited her last.) I really didn't think Tulisa looked bad....but I don't know her before look either. Kim K looks bad in some pics and I am not sure what it is, but it looks WRONG is all. Like some kind of animal. Her mouth is all wrong now. Yet there are people on here who currently want her look because they have been told (by media) that it's what looks good! You cannot make a face become another type and have it look real at this point, although I have to wonder how in the world Kate Beckinsale looks so very different today - and how in the world she still doesn't look all fake and yucky. I want what she's having:)

I still think that people are far more obsessed with this at earlier and earlier ages and I haven't noticed it making a positive difference. I mean, they still look exactly their age and it doesn't slow it down. You should see the sad twenty year olds obsessed with how old they think they look with these allegedly deep naso-labial folds they are crying over that I counsel. They look fine and it really is sad. I wish tv weren't allowed to advertise medicine and plastic surgery and that they didn't glorify it so much. It really has messed with the FDA, Big Pharma, etc.

Thanks Florida Girl! If we target the muscles correctly, the results will show. Confidence and consistence is the key.

Thanks Honey Bee for your reply!! It is really true...At the beginning I was not at all aware of my muscles, now I begin to target them a little better, and I guess consciousness is the key to develop the muscles and achieve this plumpness. I'm in the very beginning of this path, but I'm pretty excited by the overcoming results. Your words are really encouraging and reassuring me. Again, thanks very much, you're such a beautiful soul.

I guess these comments are not addressed to me...I haven't uploaded myself any profile picture. You must have mistaken me for someone else. I'm not in my 20's. But, if I were, health and good looks are not at odds! If facial exercises were well known and spread across the globe as is fitness or yoga, this technique would have prevented many girls from fillers and facelifts. But surgeons usually don't advise face exercises and the cosmetic and pharmacologic industry is not interested at promoting them, for evident grounds.

Ok I have to say there is no way facial exercise from a young age is all it takes to prevent a WANT for fillers and facelifts (I hate when doctors and people say someone "needs" a facelift it pisses me off.) Even if facial exercise is performed correctly, and one is at a healthy weight with healthy habits, one STILL will find typical sagging and wrinkles since no one is immune to time, bone loss, collagen and elastin erosion, inflammation, etc. Here are things I would venture to say are far more important, from most to least powerful: GENETICS more than anything -- definitely the number one thing in countless studies! Look at your parents and their parents and so forth SUNSCREEN applied religiously (and I mean a GOOD sunscreen no piddly 20 spf hindered by cosmetics) NOT drinking or drugging (i wish the not drinking part weren't true.) Exercise Facial exercise Love/decent outlook on life Puppies! What say you guys?

I agree with you 100%! Genetics is key as you said. As far as sunscreen I saw Dr. Weil on the Dr. Oz show and he recommends sunscreen with Titanium Oxide and Zinc Oxide. Avoid Oxybenzone and some of those other common chemicals you typically see in the local big box stores. Using facial exercise also brings more blood flow to your skin beside building muscle. And, certainly maintaining a positive outlook on life, hanging with positive people is also important.

I think definitely the lower face and chin area (double chin and jowls) would logically respond to facial exercise, however gravity can pull the fat down and that is another issue. I have exercised my face sporadically (not lately) and have seen some results, unfortunately I have some hereditary issues that I doubt will be fixable without more invasive treatments. Good pic of the facial muscles here http://www.shapeyourface.com/facial_map.htm

Hi Nadiahoney, please have a look at the "shape your face" website. The bloke who owns the website, Tom, is about 80 I think. He certainly looks like an older gentleman. But a facelift and fillers would be wasted on him. His face shows no signs of sag and he absolutely does not need fillers because his face is quite full. The aging that has appeared on his face is as a result of skin quality because no matter what you do cell turnover does slow down. Do facelifts and fillers improve actual skin quality? In my opinion, no. Generally people who are over 50 will suffer gradual loss of skin quality. This is why older people who have a face lift or have fillers and botox injected still look like older people albeit with a stretched, inflated and frozen face. Given the choice (and having made the choice) I prefer to not spend thousands having my face injected and inflated every few months. I prefer not to start morphing into another fillered clone. Instead I prefer to keep my own natural features and take the face exercise route. With regards to Tulisa, her skin is very stretched and inflated. I fear that it will become loose in time. She was very pretty before them and had her own unique face. She no longer looks like herself. If she stops now, her skin will bounce back. Unfortunately though fillers seem to be addictive and I doubt she will stop. But you are right, people are concerned about wrinkles and volume loss at a younger and younger age. I never worried about wrinkles in my twenties. In fact not till my late thirties did I begin getting concerned with them and that was because my aging began showing on my face. I do however wish that I had become aware of my facial muscles in my twenties and gained control of them then. That way I would not have witnessed the aging that took place in my late thirties. fortunately much of it has been reversed over the last 4 years.

I have been thinking about this filler-related problem more and more. Botox -- not so sure it's the worst thing in the world (barring those who have awful complications; not everyone has this. I didn't, it merely wore off too fast to be worth the price.) But fillers are indeed a slippery slope, and when you start doing them you have to keep the "fatter" look in those areas and then other areas are messed up in turn. For example, a TWENTY-THREE -- yes 23 year old(!) I know who is in perfect shape and health is obsessed with his naso-labial folds. He obviously has been told that this is an area people tend to fill and has gotten obsessed with this area. He keeps asking and insisting he "needs" filler when in fact, as someone who HAS done filler, and regretted it, he would not benefit and there is no doubt an ethical doctor would advise him to LEAVE IT BE. A very ethical doctor told me over and over not to do anything and that I "was not seeing the forest for the trees," that I would be "chasing my own tail to spite myself" or something like that (I cannot remember his exact words but he meant that I would merely be creating the need to constantly fill in the same areas PLUS other areas that would then need to correspondingly be raised up. It never works. Unfortunately I found less ethical docs and now I regret it. Hopefully my face will recover (I must have faith it will) and I suggested facial exercises to him. I MIGHT direct him over to here but I am worried he would simply get more obsessed with all the reviews of surgeries.

Hi Nadiahoney, here's my take on what causes crows feet. Basically as you age your face muscles become slacker and longer. So if you need to squint, they have to move further to achieve the squint. This means that the skin attached to the muscles also has to move further. The visible creasing (crows feet) is as a result of the skin and slack, long muscles having to move a large distance to achieve the squint. when you tighten the muscles and they become shorter, they no longer have to move a large distance to achieve the expression (the squint). This then means that neither does the skin. You will get less creasing of the skin. Botox causes muscle atrophy in the long term. The muscles becomes weaker and longer at an accelerated rate. When the botox wears off after long term use, the crows feet become very severe due to the skin and muscle having to move a longer distance to achieve the expression (the squint). Compare peoples' faces and you will see this for yourself.

So true. I speak from experience. Botox/dysport cause muscle atrophy. When your muscles atrophy, your skin sags making you look years older. It destroys your face.Facial exercises are the only way to go. The natural way is the better way :)

wow -- good to know. I have wondered about this. Where did you get the botox and where is the correspondent atrophy? I would think getting it around eye muscles could do this, because some of those keep the eye's pretty shape. I know that you have to be careful when injecting to not cause the depressor muscle to fall, or something like that. I did it for the "botox brow lift" since I don't really get that wrinkle above the nose. My mom had that and I always thought she was mad at me, but I am more like my dad with this one long wrinkle across my forehead bc we are worriers not frowners/angriers! I don't care about that one long wrinkle for some weird reason (maybe it reminds me of him) but I wanted to raise the brow at the ends. it worked a TINY bit, not as much as I would have liked, and didn't last. But if you do all the muscles like some women do you get some weird things going on, like too much DROOP, a weird dent at the top middle of the forehead (check out Camille Grammar because I am almost positive that's what was in the middle of her forehead on Bev. Hill Housewives) and different areas wearing off first and there is NOTHING you can do but keep going in to even it out. I know all this how? Because the wonderful RN who did my botox that time told me all the neat things that can happen. It's just too much upkeep with too little results as far as I can see it, unless you are the RN yourself or are married to a surgeon who can do it as needed. Right after she did my brow lift thingee she looked in the mirror at herself and scrunched her face up and said she'd have to do herself again with some more, and that esp. convinced me that in the end, it's too short-lasting and exhausting and I don't even know that I could see a good difference on myself. I don't see why they make such a big deal about how great Botox is because it's so useless for so many things, like loss of fat, keeping the eyes alive looking, etc. If anything filler would be the way to go although I suppose it's got the same kind of problem, for sure. SAG. I suppose if I felt really ugly I would give in a do the botox brow lift again but I really don't think it's all that great and I do want to try a better way -- I hate how "sad' my brows can look when I wake up and there's no happy lift to them.

Nadia honey, I did it 4 times. All times , my crowsfeet, forehead and glabella were injected. It was my second treatment of dysport which did me in. Once it wore off about 5 mos later, my face fell. I had absolutely no muscle tone in my face, horrible saggy,baggy eyes, skin texture was awful, dizziness, eye sight problems(still have in one eye),etc... I was severely depressed. It aged me so much. A plastic surgeons suggestion was more botox to try and pull things up and tighten them. It is a vicious cycle once you start. I will never ever have anything injected into my face again. Everything your RN told you can happen, happened to me. If you ever think about getting it, reach out to me and I will show you what dysport did to my face. That will surely stop you dead in your tracks from going to see your RN again. I have battled through tough times going through all of this. If it wasn't for a few women whom I have met on these forums I wouldn't have made it. You can read all the real stories here about women whom have had horrible results/reactions to these toxins. Incorporating facial exercises consistently the beginning of this year has made a drastic ,positive change to the tone and shape of my face. I am getting there slowly but surely. Keep working your brows. they'll lift. I always tell myself to not focus on my flaws because nobody notices them anyways.

No I already have seen this and I have never seen a person look better or younger from botox -- really, have you? It's worse because then a flat unwrinkled top half doesn't match the rest, just look at people who have done this and you'll see and I fail to get why doctors SPECIALIZING in facial aesthetics do not get this. I draw people but I think even if I didn't it doesn't take a genius to see that it's not just about eye wrinkles. For that matter I don't think NL folds are worth worrying about either, but so many seem focused on this. my thing is about the dissolving bone beneath it -- I think people don't realize this happens too as you age. I am taking some great supplements (Bone Restore, and The Skin Pill and a few others.) I did some major checking around for supplement purity and did days of research.... Now I also need to work on tone which is where exercise comes in. I really was never someone who thought wrinkles around the eyes were a bad thing, I just wanted a lifted brow which is really not about wrinkles. In fact this may sound weird to some but I like those long wrinkles that go at the side of the eye, especially on some people. Yet they don't want those! But I also like a wider face which is what I hope to achieve with face exercise -- although I know of course there are limits. I would be too horrified or scared to do cheek implants as that can really go badly. Going to pull out my old anatomy of the face from my old massage class and see how much I remember.

Try Tom Hagerty's brow/scalp exercises. They really work for me. I had to remove a remaining horizontal line with needling, but everything up there is in the right place (age 48). Looking at photos from my 20s, my brow area is now more symmetrical and just as smooth. After about 8 years of facial exercising, I am totally sure that this keeps the face up, naturally filled and, best of all, affordably so. However, in my experience it doesn't really prevent wrinkles (except for sag folds such as nasolabial lines). I have to deal with wrinkles through needling and skin treatments.

Indeed, plus we still want to be able to make all facial expressions :).

Check out Tom Hagerty's scalp exercises for this.

The few Flexeffect programme includes bone-building exercises. I'm starting them now at 48. Also considering whether I'll need HRT over the next few years, sigh...

hmm can an exercise truly build BONE? I can understand muscle being built, as this is done every day, but bone as I learned back in school was difficult to replace. I may be remembering wrong...I thought that if there is bone loss, that's it it's gone. You cannot build bone back up without serious minerals being circulated throughout the body. Please explain?

also just curious does anyone know what has destroyed Lara Flynn Boyle's face and also a few other celebs? I mean is it fat or is it filler, that the inner support of muscle and bone could not support? WHAT IS THAT? Filler goes away, so I was thinking fat?

Flexeffect goes on the knowledge that weight training does indeed build and maintain bone. Bone is a living tissue that slowly turns over. After menopause, there can be more removal than rebuild. By giving the body the right minerals, hormones/medication in some cases, and challenges (ie weight training), bone density can improve. Flexeffect has various pushing exercises to challenge the facial/scull bones to keep up their density. If you're interested you should really buy the programme, because I neither should nor could describe it properly here.

I knew nothing about her but looking at some pictures- yes, she looks awful. The lower face is quite fallen and flabby, like a mixture of botox and fillers/fat in all the wrong places. I also see that she smokes. And I see she was only 42 in some of the 'after' photos - dreadful! I see that before she had the kind of stongish jaw that I have. When there is that much skin to move every time I smile, it definitely forms nasolabial and parenthesis lines. So I'm guessing that she might have been trying to deal with those through too much filler.

Yes I wish I knew. This woman is 42 -- this horrified me beyond belief since this is not normal, and I have seen this monstrous look on a few others. The face is blown up so very much and I just want to know what could do such a thing. Daryl Hannah, recently Kim Novack, also Priscilla Presley, and a couple of others. Okay yeah she smoked and probably other stuff like drugs and alcohol, but still....my sister has hung out with Daryl Hannah and told me she was into healthy lifestyle (this is before those pics I saw.) There is no way just filler could do this....really? It looks more like they were blown up with cooking oil like that one woman's pic who is circulating the web. That's why I am thinking fat over the entire face, gone horribly overboard, that STAYED, and then of course the bone structure which was beautiful and delicate was unable to support the weight. Filler goes away -- I cannot believe simple filler did this. This is enormous amounts over the whole face (like, getting three syringes vs. the normal one in every single spot. Not really possible with fillers.)

Just one more comment: while weight training can maintain bone, I had always learned that once you finish bone formation (as in, stop growing usually by twenty at the latest) that's it, you can then only maintain what you have. The bone matrix is formed, but then the bone closes, at a younger age typically for women which is why we tend to be smaller and shorter. the idea that you can BUILD bone seems a bit over the top. I would like to see some scientific evidence from the inventors of flex effect for this since if they can claim to build bone they may want to submit this to the medical field, for the help of helping people who are actually bone deficient. Can we in fact increase bone mass past twenty? Is stuff still deposited and not taken away equally from bone? I'm serious since as a thinner white woman who used to exercise too much I worry about my bone density.

Read 'Strong Women, Strong Bones' by Miriam E. Nelson. A well researched book. Quote p 8: "My research and numerous other investigations have shown that with just two or three strength-training sessions per week, women can halt bone loss and even regain bone density." I think you're mixing up height with density - we're not going to get longer vertebrae and get taller, but the bones we have can get stronger through increased density. If you're concerned it's really worth researching in much more detail than I can write in a little comment here.

I agree with you InnerBeauty, bone density can be improved through exercise and diet. A relevant example is that the dentists will tell you that once your teeth begin decaying, that's it, they will get worse and worse. They will need to be drilled, filled, blah, blah, blah. NOT TRUE. Every part of our bodies is self healing unless we have some sort of genetic or underlying medical condition. We have to provide our bodies with the right nutrients which will enable our bodies to repair. Fine lines and wrinkles are caused by thickening of the dermis and inflammation and not getting the right nutrients or inadequate sleep. I don't agree with you with regards derma rolling. I don't believe derma rolling is an effective way of getting rid of fine lines and wrinkles as it stimulates inflammation. With regards to celebrities and their over filled faces, I wish they would contact me before embarking on fillers. I would definitely be able to help these women (or men). I think a one to one face training session would be enough to convince anyone. After only a few minutes you get a wonderful preview of what your face could look like.

All I can say is that single needling lines absolutely has removed them, but perhaps long-term rolling will be shown to be harmful.

Hello InnerBeauty!!! I have really learned a lot of things with your posts. i really thank you for that. How often do you use the single needles to remove the wrinkles? And how many punctures do you do? Would this technique work as well with scars? Because, i've started using a 1 mm dermastamp every two weeks. Where do you buy these single needles? I think face exercises, and derma rolling is a good combo!! Thanks a lot!!!!

I am still not sure where I stand on dermarolling. SOME inflammation is good as it stimulates repair, but how does one know how much one's skin can take? How much is too much? What about bacteria getting in? I have a dermaroller and did get temporary plumping from it but I stopped when I noticed it did not last and that there was really no difference. However, I know that doctors do a deeper version of this, and I have seen good results....any tips from people who dermaroll?

Thanks very much Inner beauty!!!! I've checked Owndoc, and has confirmed exactly my procedure. I'm reasussed now. Owndoc has been a great discovery with lots of interesting info. Thanks again!!!!

Well you are right that you need your diet/hormones to be good for the exercises to work in conjunction but its like when you use weights to do body exercise - we know the stress of the weights and the movement and pressure that's applied to the bone stops the bone diminishing. That for women is the biggest factor as when we hit the dreaded MO and the hormones start playing up often times because of the lack of them our bones start to diminish. So by using weights (as per body exercise) you actually start the body to not waste or lose bone.

Well its not just exercises that help with bone, you are right you need vitamins and minerals to be good, as well as stable hormones. You see when us women hit the big MO - that's when the hormones go out of whack and what tends to happen is that our bones grow weaker and start diminishing simply because they aren't used. This is why its often recommended to us to do weight bearing exercises because you will stop the bone from diminishing and becoming weaker. The actual bone loss starts out because there are various hormones that our bodies stop making (or just doesn't make enough of).

It definitely happened to me, and I've seen other peri-menopausal women go through drastic changes overnight due to those bloody hormones going out of whack, but then the dominio effect starts happening - hot flushes, weaker bones - lovely. Guys are so lucky to not have to go through this stuff.

Nordicnita, Ii like seeing updates from others doing facial exercise,too. Like honey bee said, she believes all programs work providing that the exercises are done properly. Really try and isolate the muscles you are working. I have been doing her program since the beginning of this year, 3-4 times a week. I am 44. My face has definitely firmed up and nasal lines are less. My issue is my eye area that botox/dysport destroyed, but I know that I can get it to look the way it did before I made those mistake. It's just going to take time. Keep on going, you will see positive changes. Reference your CFF CD and manual every now and then for a refresher. Please stay in touch to let us know how you are doing. xo

Thank you for your response and encouragement! It's nice to talk to others who are using facial exercises and finding out they do work. Carolyn, herself, looks wonderful. After reading so many testimonials about other youth enhancing procedures and the negative side effects that do occur, I am fearful about trying those. I also don't have the finances to support the endless efforts one can do. Continued good luck to you! hugs!

I tried 'rubbing out the wrinkles' for several weeks and saw no improvement. I think it will work-I just didn't give it enough time. You may have read where some of her customers said it took 11 months for it to work. It seems to vary with everyone. I believe at your young age, you will so faster results. You have more natural hormones that help your skin. Good Luck!!

Thank you so much, Nordicnita. I'll keep at it. xo

Thanks Nonie.

Sandrota and Soze, It doesn't really matter which position your eyes or lips are in. The focus of the contraction is the cheek. You have to contract the cheeks as hard as you can. This is the only part of your face you should be focusing on. Do not worry about what your eyes and lips are doing. I am currently writing a book on face exercises which will include pictures and hopefully videos. Because I am busy on this project as well as working full time and looking after my family I no longer have the time to spend dealing with people's individual issues because it takes up so much time. I posted the pics because I felt it was important to show that positive results, which are just as good as surgery, are achievable. I hope that my review will help people to pursue a natural way of reversing the signs of aging. Like I said, you don't have to buy a face exercises program. But if you do, I personally believe that it will not matter which one you choose to purchase because as long as you are exercising the face AND CHALLENGING THE MUSCLES then you will get good results. If, however, you are just going through the motions and not feeling the burn, or the fatigue or trembling then you will not see results. You also need to show commitment.

Thanks honeybee

Thanks Honeybee!

HoneyBee, Thank you for the update. I look forward to purchasing your program. Blessings. ,

hi honeybee.... thanks for your update. I can't wait to purchase your book, i too hope you can incorporate videos as that will be awesome and hopefully prevent a lot of question asking! I trust that you will post on here to let us know how to get our hands on it? Also how long till you think approx till you may get it out? You go girl!!

What program have you been using? Is it CFF?

Yes, it is CFF Crossbonnez......why do u ask? Did u have problems with her program as well?

Love CFF

Well, I am 24. I don't need them but I was looking for a good program for my mom. We have purchased CFF. She hasn't started but Carolyn is great at responding to emails. Why don't you post your pics & show her how it went wrong? Sometimes, she'll show exercises that are designed just for you. Also, sometimes giving your face a break helps. On YouTube there is this lady - vitatree, she is a naturopath & she offers a few free facial exercises for NL folds, cheeks & jowls. You might want to check her out as well. Also, the Tanaka self massage on youtube helps.

Also the Jack Lalanne videos on Youtube. Oh man ! Those are fantastic !!!! You *have* to check them out. PLUS it's Jack Lalanne ! No one can go wrong with him.

I would email Carolyn. She will also skype with you.

Jacks exercises are great. The advantage to a "plan" you pay for is that it targets all areas strategically with no error of overworking. I am 57...and until I did Flexaway looked 40...doing Carol Maggio. I am now changing up to Carolyn's and feel a huge difference...looking good!

Are you taking time off in between. The best results are obtained if you do 3-5 days a week. MINIMUM of 2 days off to rest the muscles. If it is due to overwork, it should take about 2 weeks or so.

I did email Carolyn and she gave me massage techniques to do and told me to keep on....I was doing her program 3x a week (as she told me to do, when I started.). Im 44 and don't have many wrinkles or sagging skin (yet) just marionette lines on the corners of my mouth to my chin. Which is the main reason I started her program. During the 7 months I was doing the program, I didnt't see any improvement in this area at all! However, since stopping, my cheeks seem to have gone down a bit but the eye hollowness is still there....I'm thinking of starting something back up again. I want to stay ahead of the sag and wrinkles that Im sure will be coming.....not sure what to do.

Email her again & tell her that you're not happy with the results. Show her pictures & ask her what to do.

Email her again & tell her that you're not happy with the results. And that you've exercising regularly for 7 months now. May I ask what did that program do to your face?

You have to keep at it...if you stop, the muscles go back to the point they were at before. Perhaps you should be doing it 5 days per week. With 2 days off...very important with ANY exercise program.

Hi, Riverdance. I have been doing CFF for 5 mos..My under eye are has started looking hollowed and lines, as well? I do the exercises about 3-4 x a week. Have your eyes improved?

Fonda Girl, Sorry, it's taken me so long to get back.....Ive been really busy. .anyway, to answer your question, yes, my eyes aren't looking quite as hollow and my cheeks less defined....I def think I my cheeks were overworked somehow giveing my eyes the hollowed appearance. Another thing Ive noticed is that Ive gained alot more wrinkles under my eyes that show only when I smile. I never had these before and don't know how to get rid of them. Could it be that I got these from doing the exercises ans stopping them? CFF had some pretty intense eye exercises with some scrunching. Whats going on with you? Have you stopped her program?

Why don't you guys try the Jack Lalane videos up on YouTube? They're free AND they're awesome ! Have you seen his face at 96??? He looked amazing. The vitatree lady is good too.

Hi, Riverdance. Glad to hear that things have calmed down for you. I think I was overworking my face,too. I have vowed to just stick w/ CFF here on out. I've been doing it religiously for 3-4 times a w eek since Jan 14. I have time invested in her program and have to trust in it that it will eventually help me to get my "old" face back. I am dealing w/ botox droop. I am wondering if any women on this thread are also in the same boat? I'd love to hear feedback from you, if so. :) I got eager to add Honeybees exercises into my program after seeing her results.Now I realize that more is not better and am just doing CFF. I do worry about all the rubbing on the face, but Carolyn claims it won't cause wrinkles. Maybe email her about your concerns about your eyes? She's great at getting back to you right away. Good luck and stay in touch.xo

Hi, Riverdance! I am curious to know if you are still doing CFF? If so, how's your eye area looking? I am experiencing the same thing again...hollowed out undereye area and permanent crowsfeet now! I didn;t have these before starting her program. I did email her about my concern. She told me to start the rubbing out technique for my crowfeet and the bonus exercise for long crows feet. I have been doing so for two weeks now and each day I see things getting worse? She does claim that things may looks worse before they get better, but I don't know. I want to trust in her , but seeing what is going on is scaring me!!! I didn;t have these lines before! Not sure what to do...Let me know how you are.

Hi everyone, I think no matter what exercise program, we are still going to age. I do sometimes feel discouraged. Under eye hollows are due to fat loss from the cheek, that's why people turn to fillers. Truth is we all : AGE DIFFERENTLY, RESPOND TO EXERCISES DIFFERENTLY, HAVE DIFFERENT FACIAL N BONE STRUCTURES...so...sigh!

Hi Florida girl, I'm not still doing CFF. I stopped a few months ago bc I was afraid to start back up again. My eyes are still hollowed but aren't as bad as before. I know this program gave me these hollows as I never had them prior to starting. My cheeks were definitely overbuilt and made my eyes look worse. Those have come down considerably and look more normal. I just hope my eyes go back to the way they were before starting....but something tells me this is permanent! How long have you been doing her program and how many times a week? May I ask how old you are?

Hi Florida girl, No, I haven't started CFF again! I stopped a few months ago and haven't gone back for fear things would get worse again! My cheeks have gone down and look normal now but my hollows are still there. They look a bit better but not like before I started CFF! I'm sure her program gave me these hollows! I just hope that my eyes go back to normal as they were prior to starting her program. I emailed Carolyn about it a few times and she gave me some eye massaging technique (that made my eyes look worse) and told me to keep going! I just decided, I had enough. I'd like to try another program bc I don't want my face to start drooping...lol. Maybe I'll try honeybee's exercises. If you feel like CFF's not working for you, trust what you're feeling and seeing. You know your own face. Don't let anyone tell you differently and that things may get worse before getting better....that's BS! Are you taking pics of yourself every couple of months and comparing them to before you started? That's what I did and that's what got me to stop. At first I thought it was me and that I was just being critical of myself. Until I compared the pics and pics don't lie! Maybe you should stop for a while and see how you feel. Do you mind if I ask how old you are?

Hi, Riverdance!I am the same age as you,44. Everything you just said is hitting home! . I have been doing her program since Jan 2014, about 3-4 times a week. I do take pics of my progress and was just looking back on them. In May I was looking normal. Now, 2 mos later, under my eyes is extremely hollowed out and overly tight. I,too, have been emailing Carolyn alot(lol) about my eye issues. I have to say that she has been great in replying back to me right away. A month ago I started getting lines popping out all around my eyes, at rest..not just when I smile. I was horrified, so I emailed her. She told me to do the long crowsfeet bonus exercise and to try the rubbing out of wrinkle technique to my crowsfeet. I had been doing so for two weeks and it made things so much worse! I just emailed her yesterday and she said to stop the bonus eye exercise for two weeks and things should go back to normal. I,of course, am doing so! I may just take the two weeks off all together and let my face rest. I think you are right..The main thing which I have noticed from her program is the lifting of my cheeks. I think they're interferring with my undereye area now when I smile. All the squinting may be making the eye area worse,too, even though I try to not make any lines on my face when I do her program. I want to stick with her program because I know a girl who has been doing her program for a year,if not longer , and has had amazing results. I have seen her progress pictures and they are dramatic! My undereye area looks like I need filler. Is this how yours looks? I am opposed to any injections after my horrific botox/dysport treatments. That's the reason why I turned to her program to try and age gracefully. I can't believe that after three mos your eyes are still hollowed. I hope they go back to normal. I will keep in touch . please do the same. xo

I couldn't look at the link you posted. I hope my undereye area is not premanently ruined! I followed her instructions. I am hoping that if I give my face a rest, it will start to go back to normal.

Hi Jennifer. My facial exercises work for me. They have reduced the sag in my face, reduced the folds at my nasolabial lines, arrested and reversed the wrinkles around my eyes, added volume to my temples and cheeks, made my lips fuller, tightened up my forehead, reduced the jowling on my left side although not yet completely eliminated it. They work for me. I will continue with them as I have found a method to slow down my facial aging. It costs me about 1 hour per week of my time although when I first started it took significantly longer. It costs me zero dollars/pounds/yen/rupees/dinar/etc. For this reason I thought I should share my experience. If I wanted to make money from face exercises I would have already written a book, got a website up, etc a couple of years ago. Like I said I found free exercises on the internet which made me aware of my face muscles. From there I was able to develop my own exercises. Sometimes the formation of wrinkles is due to inflammation within the body and/or thickening of the epidermis. A close relative of mine had severe eczema and he developed wrinkles where ever his skin had become very thickened (eg wrists) He suffered with eczema from 9months old to 8 years old. He has grown out of the eczema and he no longer has wrinkles on his wrists. His skin is baby soft. If you get rid of the inflammation that is causing some of your wrinkles you will also get rid of the wrinkles. When you are young your dermis is quite thick and your epidermis is relatively thinner. As you age your dermis becomes thinner and the epidermis becomes thicker. Using Vitamin C serum will reverse this to an extent and your wrinkles due to a thickening epidermis will reduce. In the end Jennifer, you need to do whatever works for you.

Florida Girl, Yes, my tear troughs look like they need filler too! I don't want to do any injections either after reading all the bad things that happened to people on here!! I hope my eyes go back to the way they were too! I feel so old!! I really wanted her program to work for me as it looked like it helped so many others. Maybe I'll give Honeybee's exercises a try. Have you heard or has anyone found that Honeybee's exercises have worked for you? I'd love to hear about your results! Keep me posted about your progress too Florida girl!

Hi Riverdance, I think ALL face exercising programs will work. Meaning that they will all lift and tone the muscles that they are targeting. The issue is that some of the programs may not exercise all of the muscles to the degree that they need it. Also, the person who is exercising their face has to do it properly. I have found that the biggest setback in achieving progress seems to be that lack of concentration on individual muscles, and thus developing a strong contraction in those muscles is not being achieved. You have to feel that the muscle has fatigued for good results. If you work on your cheek muscles excessively you will get what will look like a hollowing of the eye or the boundary line between the cheek and the lips (the nasolabial area) will look as if it is becoming more pronounced.

I would like see them,too.

I found the written description In one of these threads there's a place you can sort the replies. Sort them from oldest to newest and she (honey bee) has written the instructions in one of her replies in sep 2012. I'll try to find it again and I'll copy paste it.

It's in the replies (the one that has over 150 replies) You have to sort them and find the one in sep 2012.

Dated sep 20,2012 I couldn't copy n paste