(At Home) Derma Roller for Acne Scarring, Female, Age 31, Light Olive Skin

I am writing to review my experience with derma...

I am writing to review my experience with derma rolling at home.I have light olive skin, female, age 31.I don't have wrinkles, I have some very faint fine lines but these are not my main concern, I roll for acne scarring improvement. I have some moderate acne scarring that needs attention while I am saving up for a more expensive treatment. I got the dermaroller in 0.5mm first. It's the MT roller. I got it on ebay for around $6. After my first treatment, I ordered a second roller, this time a 1.0 mm roller. The second one was also an MT roller since I liked the first one so much, and the price is the same. I hoped to work to a 2.0, but for now I am going to continue with the 1.0. I have rolled three times now.
The first time I rolled, it wasn't as aggressive because it was a smaller needle. The second time, it was more aggressive, due to the longer needles and also because I wanted to see if the results would be better if i rolled more aggressively.
I will speak about the second and third time, which were similar experiences. The first roll was more of a trial to see if i could tolerate/ to see if it was a waste of time. I want to start out by saying that the results are subtle and gradual. Rolling extremely aggressively or too frequently is going to be conter productive. If you are an impatient person, please restarin yourself from over doing it! It's not going to help. Collagen takes time to develop and bild and rolling too frequently will damage collagen formation. Rolling too aggressively could result in more scarring. I roll once every 5-6 weeks. I keep my roller in a ziploc bag inside the plastic case it came with. I start out by cleaning off my bathroom counter with disinfectant, then I lay out a clean towel. I also have a clean small towel and a clean bowl. I lay my skin creams (will explain later) out on the opposite side of the counter out of the way. i pour some alcohol into the bowl. ( enough to submerge the end of the roller in.) I soak the end of my roller in alcohol, then dry it with the small towel. Then I start to roll on the right side of my face, on my cheeks under my eyes and on the side of my nose, then on the cheeks by my ear and side of my face. I do get some pinpoint bleeding, however not too much, i don't want to over do it. Every now and again I clean the end of the roller with the alcohol, pat it dry, then keep going. Once i have the whole right cheek and side of my face area rolled, I apply a Vitamin C serum, a second serum. a retinol cream, then a Vitamin C cream. I know it's alot but I figure it can't hurt. Then I repeat the same thing on the opposite side of my face, then my forehead. I do my nose and under my eyes as best i can, but I need to order a smaller roller for small areas. I do the sides of my mouth and chin last. I am not as aggressive here because I don't really have issues with this area of my skin.
The second time I rolled, my skin broke out a little on the sides of my mouth a few days after rolling. Because of the pinpoint bleeding, redness and recovery time, I wold advise not to roll if you need to wear a full face of makeup for a couple days ( like if you have an important event, job interview, etc.) The down time isn't major but for a couple days your face is a little red and puffy. It's very normal that your skin will start to peel a bit a few days after.
I know some people have gone on to write reviews immediately after rolling and given impressions that were a favorable due to the swelling and plumping of the skin being mistaken for results that are better than they really are. The plumping will subside. your true results (like I said earlier) are much more subtle and gradual. Your skin will continue to improve slowly throghout the period in between rolling. Don't get discouraged or try to rush it. It won't happen overnight.... be patient and consistent or just don't waste your time. I will post some pictures once there is enough of a difference to see some good noticeable change, which i am guessing won't be for at least 8-10 months. I do see subtle changes in my skin already but i am not sure if it's enough for photos just yet.
Just make sure you keep your tools clean and disinfected, be patient and consistent, that's my advice. It's a lot less expensive and simple to do at home for those of us on a budget. Thanks for reading and best of luck :)

A quick photo of progress after 3 rolls

The yellowing on the first photo is due to an issue with my camera, and the photo isn't optimal but it's the best "before" I have. The second is the progress so far after three rolls. The improvement is very subtle but it has improved a little. Not sure why realself site downsizes the photos almost to the point of having to bust out a pair of glasses. Anyway here is the photo.

fourth roll

I just did my fourth roll which will be the last roll for quite some time as I am having laser done next month. I won't even attempt to roll for at least 4-6 months after that (probably 6.)This was my most agressive roll to date- I had some pipoint bleeding but it's really surface. I am attaching some photos of how it looks after my roll. it doesn't look as red in real life.

Rolling again after laser

Yesterday I rolled again for the first time since my laser treatment. In about a month I will update with a photo, once any results are evident. I rolled a bit more agressively than normal. My face bled a lot. I think the bleeding was a result of taking an OTC pain reliever that is a blood thinner. Today my skin is still swollen and a little red. When it's swollen like it is now, it seems like the results are better than they are. Oh one more thing, after rolling I used some Lancôme collaser 5x stuff for collagen boosting in addition to some strivectin resurfacing serum and some vitamin c cream.
self administered

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I'm new to the rolling and I don't exactly know where to start. Groupon is now offering a micro needle for $24 that I may purchase. I dont have bad acne on my face, but I am getting wrinkles so I am looking for any anti aging procedure that I can do at home! What creams or serums should you use afterwards? Are you only suppose to roll once a month? Any help would be much appreciated! Thank you!!
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Oops sorry I am just now seeing this. I would recommend anything that boosts collagen, vitamin C is very good for collagen boosting. If you are already using something that boosts collagen it will absorb much better right after rolling. I use like 6 different ones afterward, it might be excessive but I figure it can't hurt. One of them is the ole henriksen brand, and the Lancôme brand too. I do feel like once a month is a good amount of time, I wouldn't do the treatments any closer together.
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Conservativefry, I just got my dermaroller 1.5mm but haven't used it yet. Can you tell me if you have seen a big difference in your cheek areas? That is my troubled area.
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Not a huge difference, it takes at least 10 rolls spaced 30 days apart minimum to see noticeable results. It's going to take some patience on your part. If you take good before and after photos you will be able to see a good improvement, but if you just look in the mirror it won't be as easy to see the progress. It's little by little. I do see some improvement but then I went and did laser.
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Ok. Thank you!! I am excited and scared all at the same time to do this. My scars are pretty deep so I am willing to do anything to get rid of them. I can't afford the C02 or Fraxel like my derm recommended. So dermaroller it is! I will be in contact with you as I start to use my dermaroller!
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Ok sure! I got the laser and wasn't all that impressed with it for my scars but it improved the rest of my skin. You can try icing your face first if you don't have a high pain tolerance. I do have a fairly high tolerance. I am really starting to think punch excision is the only way to get rid of deep scars. I have a few myself. I'd like to get excision and subcision but I'm not sure how much it is or who does it around here.
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Can I ask how long after rolling did u take the after picture u posted? I am wondering if the results look that good because of inflammation in the skin? I had a pixel laser done and was thrilled with the results until about a month after....I ended up scarring really badly from the laser and didn't even realize it happened until about a month and now 6 months out. Most of the micros welling has gone down and all of the scars were revealed. It's been devastating.
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Wow sorry to hear that! The photos are abt a month post, and I have been disappointed with my results as well. I do have some improvement but not at the level I was told I would have. I don't think my doctor went deep enough with the laser I had. All the swelling has subsided at this point and my scars are still evident but not as bad as they were. Still frustrating to see them!!
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Yes
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Do you consider use of Calendula Ointment or serum afterwards with sterile or distilled water? How did your Laser therapy go?
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Hi there. To be honest, i am already putting like 5 different serums and creams on after, at least one of them has to do something, right. Thanks for asking about my laser- I did a review on it here: http://www.realself.com/review/lafayette-la-31-year-acne-scars-laser-co2-total-fx But to give you the short version, I do see some improvement bt nowhere near what I had hoped for and was told I would see. I am beginning to think that subcision/excision might be the way to go. I don't think my doctor cranked it up enough either time but he actually lasered me twice on two seperate occasions. I am going to start rolling again very soon, it has been more than 30 days since my laser treatment and my skin is healed all the way. i am having trouble finding someone to perform the excision (specifically on the cheek by my nose, the larger deeper scar)
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I see. i wonder if a 2.0 mm roller with dermatological grade products would help. I've seen wonderful healing happen with the derma roller.
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Maybe going up to a 2 might help.
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There's a pretty cool video I saw online that showed how the derma roller actually performed on deep acid burns on the face with pretty nice results. It showed removal of the scar tissue in the skin and brung it back to a natural color.
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It really does work. It just takes patience.
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I use microneedling, but you need to boost your Vitamin C to enhance the new Collagen production. Purchase Solaray 1000mg time release Vitamin C from Whole Foods and Ultraceuticals Vitamin C10 Firming Serum from your local Doctor. It will greatly enhance the results from micro needling.
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I do microneedling as well but you have to make sure that your body can produce the new collagen from the microneedling effect. Vitamin C is required for increased Collagen production. Purchase the Solaray 1000mg time release Vitamin C capsules from Whole Foods and also purchase the Ultraceuticals Vitamin C10 Firming Serum from your local Doctor. It will greatly enhance the effect of the micro needling.
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do you put the vit c and serums such as retinol and hyalauranic acid on before derma rolling or does your skin have to be free of stuff on face
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I put it on afterward, I don't think it's a good idea to do it before hand
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thank you for your detailed review. i'm thinking of purchasing the dermapen personal (at home use) for lots of icepick acne scarring and hyperpigmentation. my entire face is orange peel. i watched the dermapen advertisement on youtube and it said that it's better than a roller because they can cause wide trenches due to the pressure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WczUjxn6x4&feature=player_embedded notice the part where it shows a simulation of a roller creating triangular trenches. what do you think? the dermapen is almost $400 and the disposable needles are expensive too. i'm desperate because i have sensitive skin and can't use makeup to cover.
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Whew $400 is a lot! if you have the money to spare, but it seems like wayyyy too much in my opinion for an at home procedure. Too bad you can't wear makeup. Not even powder? Sometimes if I have to just wear powder it's not too bad because the powder deflects the light and makes the pores look less visible. Have you tried the Neutrogena Skin Clearing powder? that's what kind I use. I wold look on ebay for a cheaper pen or a derma stamp if you don't want the roller.
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*would (sticky keys sorry)
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i'm thinking about getting a dermastamp but i wonder if it would help the shallow icepick scarring that covers my nose, cheeks and forehead. i've heard that it's hard to fix this kind of scarring. it looks like hundreds of huge pores.
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I don't know to be honest. I doubt it could hurt. You could give it a try but it would take at least 6 treatments spaced at least a month apart before you would be able to see any significant changes. At least that's what I have read online... I haven't tried the derma stamp or pen, just the roller but it's basically the same principle. Laser might be more effective but would be more expensive. I have heard that subscision for icepick scars is really good but if it's a whole bunch of pores that might be impractical. Are you sure they are ice pick?
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i think they are because i had pretty bad acne as a teen. dermatologists have told me it's just "how my skin is" and that i can't do anything about it. i don't wear foundation because it looks terrible after an hour. i guess i'll try it out at home.
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