How many Botox units for 11's or frown lines?

I received 20 units of Botox yesterday. Now I think I may have been cheated, he just wanted to get his $256 and the 20 units he injected were not nearly enough to get "rid" of the moderate/severe "11's" on my forehead. What is the average amount of units needed for this?

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A: Botox units injected for "11"

By Steven Hacker, MD - Delray Beach Dermatologist

Every person, male and female, may require a slightly different amount of Botox to their glabella ("11 sign"). In general, however, I use 20-24 units, and we get consistently excellent results. My fees are higher than what you paid so I think if you received 20 units for... more

A: Botox Expectations

By Harold J. Kaplan, MD - Los Angeles Facial Plastic Surgeon

Generally, most patients benefit from a standard dose of 20 units of Botox to treat frown lines. The reason being, to create the frown, there are several muscles involved that need to be dosed. To use less than ideal will result in little or no effect which would definitely be wasted time and money combined... more

A: Generally 20 units is a standard amount that works well for most people.

By Don Mehrabi, MD - Beverly Hills Dermatologist

Thank you for your question. For the 11 lines (glabellar area), 20 units is a pretty standard dose. For those with stronger muscles, it can go up to 25 units, and the reverse would apply for those with weaker movement or with history of multiple botox procedures. I have seen individual cases where one... more

A: Recommended Units of Botox for the Glabella

By Raffy Karamanoukian, MD - Los Angeles Plastic Surgeon

Botox injection should be performed by an experienced practioner in an ethical and professional manner. A frank discussion regarding risks, benefits, and intended number of units should be discussed between patient and physician. In general, twenty to thirty units should be injected into the glabella,... more

A: Botox for Glabella

By Farbod Esmailian, MD - Orange County Plastic Surgeon

The full effects of Botox can take as long as 2 weeks time. In general, it takes about 5-7 days before you see the effect of the paralysis. Even then, the lines dont go away that fast. Depending on how deep the lines are, it may take months and several treatments before the lines show improvements. I... more

A: Botox treatment for horizontal forehead wrinkles and frown lines

By Otto Joseph Placik, MD - Chicago Plastic Surgeon

Forehead treatment: Horizontal "worry" lines Usually requires 8-16 units of Botox Blended w/ glabella lines below Glabella treatment: Vertical "11" or frown lines Usually requires 16-24 units of Botox Blended w/ forehead above &... more

A: Botox today gone tomorrow.

By Kenneth R. Francis, MD - Manhattan Plastic Surgeon

Angy, You seem to have a real distrust for your injecting physician. There is no reason for a practitioner to "cheat" you. The effects of Botox are temporary, lasting only 3 or 4 months, so you will undoubtedly need future treatments. Your injector certainly wants you to be a... more

A: One day after injection is not enough time to see Botox results.

By Daniel C. Mills, MD - Orange County Plastic Surgeon

If you just received your Botox injection yesterday, you would not expect to see any results yet as it has only been one day since your treatment. To see the effects of the Botox it takes on average 3-5 days from the injection day. The complete results are usually noted at about 7 days. The average amount... more

A: It takes 2 weeks to see the maximum benefit from Botox.

By George J. Beraka, MD - Manhattan Plastic Surgeon

I assume you are talking about the vertical lines between your eyebrows. We call this the glabella. I personally use 25 units for women in this area and more for men. But many doctors use 20 units, so this is perfectly proper. Of course, exactly where along the muscles the Botox... more

A: The amount is correct, but it doesn't work until 4-7 days.

By David A. Dreyfuss, MD - Chicago Plastic Surgeon

The amount of Botox injected in that area is normally around 20 units. I would hope the doctor explained to you that the affect doesn't occur for at least 4 days and even sometimes 7 days. Botox works by blocking the receptors in the muscle, so it doesn't respond or contract. These receptors... more

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Comments

quinnmd
38 posts
17 Nov 2008

I agree with the above responses. However, I just wanted to let you know that I typically use 25 units for that area, but sometimes as low as 15 or as high as 40. So don't feel cheated. I tell my patients to wait at least a week to two weeks before considering a "touch up".

DrFardad
12 posts
17 Nov 2008

The average units injected into the Glabella, frown lines or "11s" is about 20 units. There are some clients that may require more due to larger amount of muscle present. i have injected as much as 40 units. The effects of Botox are not noted overnight or even over a two day period. You need at least 3-4 days and in some cases up to seven days for the muscle fibers become paralyzed which results in disappearance of the lines. Just give it a little more time. if still there after a week, just ask for touch.

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