How Many Botox Units for 11's or Frown Lines?

I can understand your frustration. However, you state that you just had the Botox yesterday. It will take 3 to 7 stays for it to start working and sometimes up to 2 weeks for the final effect. So, please be patient to see the effect.
However, it does usually take between 20 to 30 units for the glabella (your "11's") area. It takes another 15 to 25 units for your forehead and another 2.5 to 5 units for around each eye (crow's feet).
I hope this is helpful.

The 11’s or glabella lines typically need 20-25 units for full treatment. This will vary from patient to patient, and may need to be adjusted on subsequent treatments. Skilled injectors will customize treatment dose for your specific needs.  Best Regards, Dr. Weiss

The typical dosage for treating moderate to severe "11" lines or frown lines with Botox can range between 15 to 25 units, depending on the individual's muscle mass and the severity of the lines. While 20 units could be effective for some people, others with more pronounced frown lines might require more to achieve optimal results. It's important to discuss your concerns and expectations with your provider to tailor the treatment to your specific needs. If the initial treatment doesn't provide the desired results, a follow-up appointment can help adjust the dosage.

Hi there,Firstly, the severity of the area needs to be considered…How deep are the lines before treatment, your age, your lifestyle factors, muscle strength, desired outcome, type of Botox used, etc. Usually for the 11’s (procerus and corrugator muscles) an average of 15-20 units is a standard amount. The final results of your Botox may take up to 2-4 weeks. Again, the number of units to be injected has to be determined by an experienced physician/ advanced injector. At our clinic we do invite our clients in for a two week follow up to assess the results and determine if any adjustments are necessary at no additional charge. If for some reason you are unsatisfactory with your results, you need to contact your injector to discuss this with them.

Everyone is different as to the amount they need depending on the size of the procerus and corregator muscles in the glabella.  20 can be reasonable for someone.  while others are good with 12 and others need 30 + if total paralysis is desired.  I like some movement myself.  Remember also, the day after injection is too soon to know the full effect of botox.  Wait until a week after to better gauge.  Lastly, completely eliminating lines on first Botox is probably unreasonable.  If the lines aren't "etched" in, called dynamic wrinkles (wrinkles that appear when squinting) then Botox can soften these lines.  If they are "etched" (ie static glabellar wrinkles), Botox will not help those disappear; filler combined with Botox would be most effective for these.  Lastly, unfortunately there are those that give less units then promised.  I encourage injections by experts - Dermatologists or Plastic Surgeons who do injections.  

The most common doseage of Botox to the glabella (the 11's) is 20 units. Patients with stronger muscles, especially men may require more, but in fact many patients use less to keep this area synchronized with the forehead, crow's feet and other areas. Dysport dosing is different. The most common Dysport dose to the glabella is 50 units, which is equivalent to 20 units of Botox in this area for most patients. 

Botox starts to work in 3-5 days (average) and can take up to 2 weeks for the final result, and that is the proper time to re-administer additional Botox if needed.  I think it's always better to start with low doses the first Botox treatment as you can always add more if needed to improve the appearance of visible lines. I usually let patients know the timeline about what to expect at the time of injection.Best of luck,Dr.G

A great injector can do a lot with fewer units. Many medi-spas, etc. will only inject a pre-determined amount which may be more or less than what you actually need.Botox is generally priced by the unit and the price is higher based on the credentials and training of the injector. You should expect a minimum of $400 for those areas but shouldn't expect to pay more than $600. It's good to find a provider that you have trust in to help maintain a Botox regime if you plan on continuing to seek out Botox every couple of months.

Thank you for you question.  20 units is a commonly administered Botox dose for this area.  At this point, wait 10 days and then evaluate results.  It is quite possible that you will need a few units more, but a follow up in 2 weeks would determine that and if so, you would  add them in at that point.   The right amount of Botox will stop the muscle from contracting in that area disallowing the skin from folding along with it, forming the wrinkle.  Those wrinkles are called dynamic lines of expression.  If you have lines are "etched" into the skin, even when the muscle is in a relaxed state, these are static lines.  If the muscle has stopped contracting, the Botox has done its job to best of its ability even if you can see static lines.  If that is the case, Botox is still important for you to reduce the severity of the lines and prevent them from worsening for sure. My suggestion is be patient, and follow up in 2 weeks.  Good luck.

Typically we inject between 15-20 units for treatment of glabella or "frown lines." Botox can take 7-14 days before reaching maximal effect.

Hello, you mentioned you were just injected yesterday. I believe 20 units is an average starting range for this area and find it to be quite effective. The effects of Botox can take up to 2 weeks to fully access. I recommend waiting the full suggested peiod and following up with your provider.BestDr. P