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Hoping for "Old Hollywood Glamour Lips" - 4mm Top and Bottom- No More Vanishing Top Lip. - Westerville, Ohio
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Two years ago I went for Juvederm to fill in my...
WORTH IT$1,685
Two years ago I went for Juvederm to fill in my parenthesis lines. The doctor had a little more left (half of one syringe) and suggested a large impact could be made if we put it in my upper lip. I never had obsessed about my small upper lip before that, but once I saw it bigger I realized I LOVED the look. I never wanted a small upper lip again. It made me look so much prettier to have a lip that did not vanish when I smiled, and so the following year I got another half syringe.
Now, it is expensive to maintain my Botox, my Voluma, and my Juvederm upper lip, so when I heard about Permalip as a permanent solution, I researched it for probably 1 and a half years on Real Self, youtube, and elsewhere. Finally this February I went to a consultation with a well-reviewed Plastic Surgeon, Dr. Robert Houser, who performs the Permalip procedure in Ohio. His office is over a 2 hour drive for me, but that is not so bad! I can tell he is highly skilled, confident, and has a great personality. He showed me some other ladies in his office who had the procedure, and it was so nice. I couldn't tell anything had been done to their lips... very natural!
Now it is March, and I just put down my $500 deposit to officially book my date which will be April 18. I am SO excited! I have planned to fly to Florida the day after the procedure, and recover there for 7 days before coming back to Ohio and returning to work and the public. I am a little anxious about how I will look to people at the air port and such the day after my procedure, but I will wear a surgical mask and hopefully people will just assume I'm a germ-phoebe.
The plastic surgeon is going to give me 5mm in the upper lip. The deal is buy one get one free, so even though my lower lip is full, I am going for a 4mm on the bottom. I seriously can't wait!
Now, it is expensive to maintain my Botox, my Voluma, and my Juvederm upper lip, so when I heard about Permalip as a permanent solution, I researched it for probably 1 and a half years on Real Self, youtube, and elsewhere. Finally this February I went to a consultation with a well-reviewed Plastic Surgeon, Dr. Robert Houser, who performs the Permalip procedure in Ohio. His office is over a 2 hour drive for me, but that is not so bad! I can tell he is highly skilled, confident, and has a great personality. He showed me some other ladies in his office who had the procedure, and it was so nice. I couldn't tell anything had been done to their lips... very natural!
Now it is March, and I just put down my $500 deposit to officially book my date which will be April 18. I am SO excited! I have planned to fly to Florida the day after the procedure, and recover there for 7 days before coming back to Ohio and returning to work and the public. I am a little anxious about how I will look to people at the air port and such the day after my procedure, but I will wear a surgical mask and hopefully people will just assume I'm a germ-phoebe.
The plastic surgeon is going to give me 5mm in the upper lip. The deal is buy one get one free, so even though my lower lip is full, I am going for a 4mm on the bottom. I seriously can't wait!
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May 10, 2017
Excited for you! BOGO! That's how I thought it was in the first place... *feel like a fool* I was thinking $1500-2000 total. Then I'm having one heck of a time trying to find a doctor in my state of Nebraska that even does Permalips or even knows what Permalips are. I'm getting discouraged !
UPDATED FROM kittycatz
5 days pre
Less than 1 week, my thoughts in regards to picking size
When I first went to the consultation, I was so excited about the notion of having a bigger top lip that I gravitated to Large (5mm). But as my procedure date approaches in less than a week I am 100% certain that I am going to do a 4mm, as it will be more appropriate for the thin lip I am starting out with. I decided this because
1.) All of the lips on Real Self that are similar to my before, and who's lips I love in the "afters", have gone with 4mm. (For example the permalip reviewers "ega3" and "KateFD", "giada" among others.)
2.) I read a medical evaluation of Permalip called "Five-year Experience with Perma Facial Implant by Peter Raphael, MD, Ryan Harris, BA, and Scott W. Harris, MD" and it states in this review of 832 Permalip patients, 78% chose 4mm (most used!), 13% chose 5mm, and 9% chose 3mm. It said 5mm " were mainly used in removal and replacements when patients requested additional volume", as opposed to being the implant placed initially.
Additionally the medical paper stated "Regarding implant girth (SIZE in mm), overaugmenting is relatively more common and noticeable. It tends to produce a tight appearance, a horizontal shadow, or perivermilion bulging depending on the angle of view. We term this phenomenon “ridging”... In addition to this, the paper goes on to say "We have thus learned to avoid 5-mm implants as primary treatments. Starting with 4 mm ones (3 mm if the lip looks too thin) allows adequate tissue expansion for eventual 5 mm placement."
Reading this paper made me even more sure I want 4mm!
3.) I saw several people on the internet who went with 5mm, when their lip was not very substantial to begin with, and it looked like it distorted the cupids bow, elongated the lips into sausages, and gave a "plastic surgery" look. I think 5mm works best for ladies who already being with full-ish lips. In my before you see just how thin my lip is, and I just KNOW a 5mm would look odd in it.
In conclusion, I am very excited and looking forward to 4mm. I think it will be subtle, it will keep the shape I am used to, and it will still provide an enhancement. In my case, I do not have the goal of large lips, but of a more balanced top lip. I hope if you are in the same boat I am in, this will help you a bit, but of course it is a unique situation for each person based on their lip tissue and goals.
1.) All of the lips on Real Self that are similar to my before, and who's lips I love in the "afters", have gone with 4mm. (For example the permalip reviewers "ega3" and "KateFD", "giada" among others.)
2.) I read a medical evaluation of Permalip called "Five-year Experience with Perma Facial Implant by Peter Raphael, MD, Ryan Harris, BA, and Scott W. Harris, MD" and it states in this review of 832 Permalip patients, 78% chose 4mm (most used!), 13% chose 5mm, and 9% chose 3mm. It said 5mm " were mainly used in removal and replacements when patients requested additional volume", as opposed to being the implant placed initially.
Additionally the medical paper stated "Regarding implant girth (SIZE in mm), overaugmenting is relatively more common and noticeable. It tends to produce a tight appearance, a horizontal shadow, or perivermilion bulging depending on the angle of view. We term this phenomenon “ridging”... In addition to this, the paper goes on to say "We have thus learned to avoid 5-mm implants as primary treatments. Starting with 4 mm ones (3 mm if the lip looks too thin) allows adequate tissue expansion for eventual 5 mm placement."
Reading this paper made me even more sure I want 4mm!
3.) I saw several people on the internet who went with 5mm, when their lip was not very substantial to begin with, and it looked like it distorted the cupids bow, elongated the lips into sausages, and gave a "plastic surgery" look. I think 5mm works best for ladies who already being with full-ish lips. In my before you see just how thin my lip is, and I just KNOW a 5mm would look odd in it.
In conclusion, I am very excited and looking forward to 4mm. I think it will be subtle, it will keep the shape I am used to, and it will still provide an enhancement. In my case, I do not have the goal of large lips, but of a more balanced top lip. I hope if you are in the same boat I am in, this will help you a bit, but of course it is a unique situation for each person based on their lip tissue and goals.
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May 15, 2016
I went to athens greece for a vacation we never go anywhere. the night i was to come home i called a plastic surgeon and had my lips filler done he did something so amazing his procedure was totally different than in US He made my lips full, but not overboard, just great. For dirt cheap. It is very expensive to travel their and real far
but I am old now and wanted to go prior to any events. I have had plastic surgery for many years and never had a problem with results.
I hhad no sosrnesss and went home on the plane a 18 hour ride and 3 planes later. the ps over there open from a6pm to 1j0 pm and I was doing this at 9pm prior to leaving at 3am. incredible results. I can't go back there if these lips go down. The doctor their in athens was worn and tired but he did a fantastic job, he did my hands to a 60 tiny shots in each hand. It hurt sooo much In the hands tiny little shots. He said for this he should have sedated me. My hands look 10 years younger, fuller and no skinny veins showing. Now back here,
I am going to my regular PS and have a few BOTOX over each eyebrow I have tiny lines. HE will fix me up. BOtox is not expensive.
It's the fillers that take a lot of money. Anyhow, I can't beleive I did that. I was with my best friend, my grown daughter. Read about athens greece, plastic surgery and you will find out that Greece is the
most well know PS countries for quality. I am very happy and just wanted to share it with everyone. It's a shame how it does not last more than 6 months.
but I am old now and wanted to go prior to any events. I have had plastic surgery for many years and never had a problem with results.
I hhad no sosrnesss and went home on the plane a 18 hour ride and 3 planes later. the ps over there open from a6pm to 1j0 pm and I was doing this at 9pm prior to leaving at 3am. incredible results. I can't go back there if these lips go down. The doctor their in athens was worn and tired but he did a fantastic job, he did my hands to a 60 tiny shots in each hand. It hurt sooo much In the hands tiny little shots. He said for this he should have sedated me. My hands look 10 years younger, fuller and no skinny veins showing. Now back here,
I am going to my regular PS and have a few BOTOX over each eyebrow I have tiny lines. HE will fix me up. BOtox is not expensive.
It's the fillers that take a lot of money. Anyhow, I can't beleive I did that. I was with my best friend, my grown daughter. Read about athens greece, plastic surgery and you will find out that Greece is the
most well know PS countries for quality. I am very happy and just wanted to share it with everyone. It's a shame how it does not last more than 6 months.

June 13, 2018
Enjoyed your story about your adventure! Helped me make my decision to go for it. :)

UPDATED FROM kittycatz
1 day pre
Tomorrow is the Procedure day
Here are some photos of me today, with half a syringe Juvederm still in my UPPER LIP ONLY, last injected October 26 2015 (ten months ago). It is clear to see that my juvederm does in fact still give the upper lip some boost, as opposed to the photos I posted of when I had NO juvederm. I will use these as kind of my true before photos, so after tomorrow's procedure I can compare.
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April 17, 2016
Good luck tomorrow!! I read everything you wrote and I believe you are going to look fantastic & love them! I am just in the research phase myself so thank your for the mini education too!

May 20, 2016
Yes, thank-you for sharing. My lips are as thin as yours were before the 1/2 syringe of Juvaderm, and my bottom lip much thinner than your were. Now I have a gauge if I ever get up the nerve to try it (which I hope I do, because yours look fantastic!!)!
January 24, 2017
I know you had your implants done a while ago and they look great! What Dr. did you go to? I'm from Chicago and noticed your page said Ohio
This is so exciting! Thank you for starting your story and please keep us updated as you get closer. Exactly one month from today!
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