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34 Years-old Female, UK, Going to Poland for Rhinoplasty - Wroclaw, Poland

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One of the reasons I want to write about my...

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One of the reasons I want to write about my experience on Real Self is it's another way of pushing myself into actually going through with it! Posting on here makes it a little more real, somehow.

Unlike many people on this site, I haven't always despised my nose - in fact, I don't hate it now, despite the fact that I bet it's 'worse' (wonky, massively long etc) than most people's (like actual fact). I dunno, I kinda had other things on my mind for 34 years! This is despite several people making comments ... ('wow, you have a MASSIVE nose!', 'I've drawn a picture of you with your massive nose,' 'Your nose looks like a ski jump!'- and this, from an ex - 'I wonder if people think I've beaten you up when they see your nose'... oh, more are coming to memory as I write! 'What Happened to your nose?' and 'If it wasn't for nose, you could have been a model.' Yes, the comments have all stung a bit at the time, but I always tried to brushed it off. I mean, it's just a nose, right?

It wasn't until I was about 30 that I started to think about doing something about it. I remember randomly going through a load of digital photos on my computer (I rarely look at photos, and often dodge photos to avoid embarrassing nose shots!) and was just appalled at how I looked. In my head, I think I looked much better than I actually did. So I had an appointment with one of the highstreet plastic surgery clinics in London, and was quoted £5.5K to 'fix' it. But I just thought, realistically, I can't justify spending that kind of money on inflicting pain on myself. I also looked into surgery abroad in Hungary, and was quoted far cheaper (£2.5k), but I wasn't really brave enough to go through with it, so I shelved the idea.

Roll on four years, and I get engaged, and the same thoughts of getting my nose 'done' come to the surface. I just can't bear the idea of people taking pictures of me at my wedding later this year (Nov) when I've got this ugly, massive nose! So I started researching again, and came across a clinic in Poland that seemed to be offering rhinoplasty for 2K GBP. And with a reputable website and good reviews! Too good to be true?

I told my boyfriend (sorry, fiance!) about my thoughts of getting a nose job. I was so nervous - I've never mentioned to anyone about my self-consciousness before (my theory was don't draw attention to things you don't like about yourself) - but he was really supportive and said he loved me how I am but if I wanted to do it, he'd come with me to hold my hand. This gave me a bit of a push into contacting the clinic.

My first email to the clinic was ignored, so I emailed them again a few days later with photos and they came back to me the same day, saying they'd pass them onto the surgeon, Adam Kalecinski, and give me a reply in three working days. True to their word, I got a reply. It was brief, saying something like 'you are suitable for rhinoplasty' and that they could straighten my nose, shorten it, and do minor refinement of my tip - the rest of the email was generic.

Despite the correspondence from the clinic being pretty impersonal - definitely 'to the point' - and there not being many reviews for rhinoplasties by the clinic on this site (not to mention the worries about it being in another country!!!) I decided: what the heck. I'm going to book it.

The way I look at it is this: the surgeon is UK-trained, has done over 1,000 rhinoplasties in his career, and it's something he does week in, week out. I'm not looking for the 'perfect' nose - I haven't got pictures cut out of magazines to show him and say 'I want that one' - I don't think it works like that. This might come back to haunt me, but I think a surgeon can only work with your existing nose and I just want mine to look 'normal' ie straight, and in proportion with my face. I would hope any plastic surgeon would be able to achieve this.

I also have read several reviews on this site of nose jobs gone wrong, irrespective of the money people have spent. I think a lot of it is to do with how your nose is, and how well it can cope with the surgery, rather than who necessarily does it (although I appreciate there are surgeons who specialise in facial surgery, who would probably more experienced etc). But, I'm willing to risk it, although I hope I don't come to regret it. Please don't let me regret it! (Incidentally, I've heard Dr Kalecinski has a Facebook page with thousands of before and afters, which I must check out. This definitely gives me hope that he's legit and above board etc.)

The other deciding factor of going ahead with the surgery now is that I will have just come to an end of a work contract a few days before I get it done, which means I will have the time to recover without having to go back to work, and all the embarrassment of people noticing etc. It means I can recover in private and when I find a new job, hopefully I'll be new and improved and no-one will know what came before.

So the surgery is 9th March. I fly out from the UK Monday 7th March, will have a day in Wroclaw with my fiance to prepare myself (ie buy food for the apartment we're renting off Airbnb, find out where the clinic is etc) before surgery on the Wednesday. The flights were only £40 return each, and the apartment is £215 for nine nights. The taxi from the airport is included in the surgery cost, but subsequent taxis will be on a meter (but cheap - this is Poland).

The only thing left to do was tell my mom. I was absolutely terrified, but knew I HAD to tell her. I didn't feel like it was really happening before I told her. So I called her last night, so scared, and she was amazing (bear in mind I'd never mentioned feeling self-conscious about my nose to anyone). She said she understood me wanting to get my nose straightened (I didn't really tell her I was getting it made shorter too!) and she supported me. She was a little concerned about me going to Poland, but she said as long as it was above board and my partner was with me, she supported me.

Now it feels real, and I'm much more positive about it, that I will actually go through with it now, rather than it being a fantasy in my head. The more people know, the harder it will be to pull out too, but I'm not planning on telling too many more people (apart from on here, ha!). I am also extremely nervous. I hate pain. I hate needles. I'm also scared of it going wrong, as I've read some have on this site. However, I know the overwhelming response of people having rhinoplasty is 'worth it', so I'm focusing on that rather than what could go wrong.

I will post some before pictures up at some point. Not just yet, though. Baby steps! I'm very shy.

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28 days pre

One month to go!

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So it's exactly a month today until I get my rhinoplasty! I'm finding that I'm getting a bit obsessed with going onto this site and reading endless stories about how good/not so good people's experiences have been, both in terms of rhinoplasties generally as well as Adam Kalecinski's past patients, including those who've had other procedures other than nose jobs.

I have to say, there are a few bad reviews of Adam Kalecinski's, and that has worried me a bit. I also find the contact I've had with the London team on email has been so-so. For example, I've been told to turn up to the clinic at 8am on the day of surgery, so I asked them whether they could give me an idea of when my surgery would be. Most people who have surgery know what time they will be operated on, and no doubt this helps them mentally prepare for what is, for many, a scary procedure. To my question, I got the response: 'after 8am.' I didn't find this satisfactory. I know it'll be after 8am! So I asked again if they could be more specific, and I got the reply that the time of surgery would be determined on the day. Would it really be too much trouble for them to say something like: 'Adam normally does two procedures a day, so you'll likely be either 10:30 or 14:30...' Perhaps Adam does decide on the day, depending on who turns up (maybe they have a high percentage of 'no-shows'?), or how complicated each person's procedure is (I think I read one past patient say her rhino was first of the day because Adam said it was simple), but a little explanation wouldn't go amiss.

I've read a number of people saying this clinic is poor on the communication side of things. I hope it isn't a sign of things to come...

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February 10, 2016
Hi, thanks for sharing your story! I suppose you have researched the doctor very well and checked his Board certification, I am from Slovakia but haven't lived there in 20 the last 20 years.
I am planning my rhinoplasty (plus chin) in March, and have been agonizing over which doctor to go with. After an extensive research and many visits, I have decided to go with one that specializes in faces. I have a day booked (March 23rd), but they said they will know the exact hour closer to the date, they only said sometime in the morning.

However, the office is very responsive and available to answer my questions, which I find important. At the same time, what is most important is how will the job turn out, and despite all the pictures the doctor has and provides (the projections), I think it's hard to predict 100%. Seems like you have a very realistic approach, I agree that every nose and what can be done with it is very unique!

Would love to hear about your progress!
February 11, 2016
Hi Janka003

Yes, the surgeon is board certified and seems to have many satisfied patients. Are you getting your surgery done in Slovakia? I've got to be honest, the price is a major factor for me - hence my decision to travel to Poland.

Re office responsiveness - I think this is something that's massively important as well. And surely not difficult to get right? I've read several patients of Dr Kalecinski comment that the communication side of things isn't great. At the end of the day, if I feel my questions are not answered then I'm fully prepared to walk away from this - it's so important to not get right.

Best of luck with your surgery too! We should stay in touch!
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February 13, 2016
I would love to stay in touch. I haven't posted my pictures yet because I am nervous about having my insecurities, i.e. my profile, lol online! But I might do it the way you did and cover my eyes. I hear you about the price, I am going to have to make some major sacrifices for the next year, after the surgery, but I am ready to do it. I am having the surgery in California where I now live. I'll write more again soon, but I would love to stay in touch and keep each other posted as we get closer to "the date". :-)
February 13, 2016
Just do what you're comfortable with re: posting pics - I'm quite private (despite this blog!) so I'd rather keep anonymous for now, but if the results are amazing, I may post a picture of my face! I'm pretty sure your nose isn't as bad as mine so don't worry!!! (It's only recently that I've been looking at my profile in pictures - I think I just avoided them before. Yikes! I had no idea my nose was so massive!!!!!) I defo need support going through this so it'd be great if we can cheer each other on!!! :) Feel free to DM me X
UPDATED FROM cazzabella
28 days pre

Adding some pre-rhino pics

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Here are some pre-surgery shots - these are the ones I've sent the clinic.

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February 10, 2016
I've just read your story and I think you're so brave! I'm not going to make you unsure now, BUT I have to mention.. If you feel unsure about your surgeon, and are doubting a few things, then ask questions. A lot. And if you don't get an answer, ask again! "How much will you raise the tip" do you want a straight profile or a slope? "How much of a slope?" Are you doing anything with the nostrils? What will your doctor do to refine and support your tip?

Wishing you good luck, and I will follow your updates!
February 11, 2016
Hi Flowiie

Thanks for your message, which I really appreciate. Following your message I emailed the surgery to ask if I could book a telephone consultation with Dr Kalecinski - I felt speaking to him in person might reduce some of my anxiety. I was first told he was on holiday, so to email my questions and he'd respond when back. I replied that I'd wait, I rather speak to him in person. Then I was told that, actually, he doesn't do telephone consultations anymore and that I would have to email. This is despite the website saying he does! I can understand surgeons not speaking with patients - I'm sure that's not uncommon - but to advertise you do and then not do just seems dishonest. It just adds to my doubts. So I'll email my questions and hope I get a proper reply otherwise I'll walk away, as others have done following unsatisfactory correspondence from the surgery. X
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February 11, 2016
I support you in wanting to speak with him in person. Then you can see if he really do have answers, and not just making up anything, or write things that just "sounds good". I have to say that the service you have got so far is way too bad. They should care a lot more about their patients.. I feel I want to go to them and just; "Are you serious about this??".. But ye.. I wonder what he answers to your questions:)
February 11, 2016
Hello. I have had two botched rhinoplasties. After 20 years I found a surgeon who is a master and corrected it to perfection. It's natural and beautiful but the before was horrible and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Please read the first review at this link about your doctor.

http://m.makemeheal.com/directory/view.php?userentry_id=8072

I would never let him touch my face. My surgeon informed me why many surgeons have good work on the body but when it comes to the nose it is the MOST complicated plastic surgery procedure. This is from a renowned reconstructive surgeon. Take a breath, think about how this doctor mutilated someone else, forfeit your deposit and research the best possible surgeon. This is your face. He will make it worse and you'll wish for the old you.
February 11, 2016
Hi nadine88

I'm so sorry to hear about this. Can I check, these weren't done by Dr Kalecinski were they?

Thanks for the link - I've seen this review on that website and I think she's posted on Real Self too. It's obviously not nice to read such a negative review, but I have seen plenty of good ones too. He also did offer her a revision, but the poster had decided against it (which I can understand) and obviously issues can occur no matter what surgeon. I think when it comes to plastic surgery, you're bound to get some people who are unhappy with their results, too - I just hope not to join that minority. (I'm also trying to remain positive!)

Following on from your post though, I am going to independently contact a number of his previous patients (he has a group on Facebook) to make sure I'm still happy to go ahead. I'm not afraid to walk away if I don't hear what I need to hear!

It was very kind of you to get in touch. X
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February 28, 2016
Hi!
Thanks for sharing! I am planning an end of March- beg of April surgery too with Adam. Good luck to us!
February 28, 2016
Absolutely! Are you going on your own or with a partner? Can't believe it's only a week and a half away for me. Have you had much contact with the London office at all? Interested to hear your experience.
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February 28, 2016
Well, not really, as I was reading your story I could totally say the same - they tend to answer very rarely and not very politely, I would say. For example, I have written a whole letter to them the other day (it was my first contact with them) and only got "we could fit you into a cancelation slot" in return... No "Good morning", or "Kind regards".. I am not a complicated person but I thought even £2k are a lot of money and when you buy something, you kind of expect this "caring" attitude...
As for the traveling, I have 3 children and my husband can only have a week off (to stay with them) in a certain period, so thats why I am worrying first if I could schedule a surgery in the Easter time or in May. It won't work for me any other time.
I am a Russian and have a Polish aunt & cousins, so I feel that I know Polish culture quite well, so I trust Adam completely. I mean, for me there's no difference between him and any other UK or non-UK surgeon... As long as the reviews are generally positive and patients are happy. I am not worried about the "cheap" price - in Poland it equals to £4-5k in UK... This is how much they get for their work, so it's in no way "cheap" for them (and you could tell everything is much cheaper in Poland compared to UK - taxis, accommodation etc).
I am totally relaxed about my decision as I KNOW that if I don't do it now, I will be regretting until the rest of my life. Even if it turns out bad, it is MY decision and I am responsible for doing it to myself.
Anyway, I will be keeping an eye on your progress and i really hope that you will get some great results!
Anna xx
February 28, 2016
Hi Anna - I REALLY appreciate your comment. I am going to make sure I mention to the surgeon when I meet him how unimpressed I've been with the email correspondence. They must be losing a lot of business because of the poor customer service. I'm looking forward to meeting Dr K though, as all the reviews have been positive about their consultation with him. I think I'll know in my gut the day I meet him whether he's the man for the job. (If my gut says no, I'll walk away.)

I have read lots of good reviews and personally emailed some of his past patients who have nothing but praise for him and his Polish practice so I feel good about my decision to go there. I agree about there being no difference between going to a Polish or UK surgeon. Let's be honest - if you got your nose done at Transform, they'd charge you £5-6K and you'd have been none-the-wiser who your surgeon was pre-internet! I accept that there are risks associated with the procedure, but that is true whether you pay 2K or 12K. I have stopped reading other reviews on this site now, as I was getting a bit obsessed, but people have 'botched' jobs no matter what they pay. I just hope my nose isn't too complicated to sort out, and doesn't lead to complications. I'm not religious, but I'll pray for that before I go under.

So will you be going on your own and staying in the flat? Good for you for going for it. You have to be brave - no point in looking back with regrets.

Thanks for taking the time to comment. X
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February 28, 2016
Yes - I am going on my own and plan to spend there around 5 days.
I had a closed septo- rhinoplasty in 2010, and I was in a LOT of pain afterwards, with horribly bruised black eyes etc, but it was so worth it as it improved my breathing significantly. So I am all ready emotionally. It's always good to remember that we can cancel anytime, so there's no need to be afraid or anxious.
Will you be staying in a Puro hotel, or Airbnb, or somewhere else?
March 5, 2016
So is this a revision on your nose that your having? It's good that you know what to expect.

I'd love to be staying in the Puro as I've read such great things, but I'm going to be in an Airbnb about 2Km from the surgery and 1Km from the town. I am trying to keep costs down so it was the cheapest way. Plus we'll have use of the kitchen, so can make meals and use the freezer for my cold press. I just hope it's comfortable, warm and that the wifi works!