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Very Unhappy W/ Eyelid Surgery - Winter Park, FL

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I would not recommend Dr Rotatori for eye surgery....

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I would not recommend Dr Rotatori for eye surgery. His aggressive and old school techniques show me that he takes the function of the eyes and soft tissue for granted.
About 3 years ago I started noticing my eyebrows and eyelid skin loosening and drooping over my eyelashes. I interviewed a couple of doctors about an eyebrow lift and chickened out because most of the photos I've seen did not look natural and I was afraid of how invasive it sounded. I regret my fear now. I was referred to Dr Rotatori by my fiancé who has several friends that had eyelid surgery, and he also had skin cancer removed by Dr. Rotatori. He told me that Dr Rotatori was known for being conservative, and if anything people would say he is too conservative so that was great with me because I like a very natural look (I believe less is more). During my consultation, I told Dr Rotatori that I had considered doing an eyebrow lift, and my fiancé told me about eyelid surgery, which I didn't know much about. My fiance said it was far less invasive and a quite simple procedure of removing excess skin. I even watched some videos on youtube, and they made it look very simple. I told Dr. Rotatori I wanted to look like myself and not change my look but just not look tired, and the only thing that really bothers me is the slight hooding over my eyelashes. He looked at me, and said that I have a very young look and that he would remove a little amount of fat in the corners of my eye next to my nose. I said why would you do that? Don't we want to preserve our fat and soft tissue to preserve our youth? He pointed it out by pressing with a Q-tip to make it protrude so you could see it. I thought it was volume loss (fat and other soft tissue loss) that makes us look older so why do you want to take it out? He said I have to. Then he drew a diagram for my fiancé to show the skin he would remove and then cauterize the muscle where the skin was removed and stitch me up. He said the scar would be hidden in my crease and eventually practically disappear. He had appointments available in the next couple of days so I was thrilled to get this done and behind me so I scheduled the surgery. I was uncomfortable w/the fat removal because the corners of my eye never did bother me so why not leave it alone and just remove the excess skin?
When I went into surgery, he was very quiet and barely talked so I rambled on to break the ice. The surgery took about 1 hour and 15 minutes according to my fiance. I got one call from the nurse the next day asking how I was feeling, and I said fine. I got my stitches out 6 days after surgery, one day early because one of the stitches was poking my eyeball. By the 10th day, I started panicking a little because my eyes looked so different than ever before in my life. I had huge eyelids(very high crease), deeper creases, and a very small sliver of skin on my upper eyelid/under brow (absolutely reverse of what my eyes were Before surgery and in all of my pictures from 20 - 48 years of age. Before surgery, I had a low crease, not deep-set eyes, and a large amount of skin (full lids) to apply highlighter eye shadow under my brow). I went from small crease to large crease, from full lids to very small/barely there, and from not deep-set eyes to deeper-set. I had no idea any of this was going to be changed. It Was NEVER Discussed. So Now I start researching and educating myself instead of hearing others say what a simple procedure this is, and it only takes 1 hour under local anesthesia. I found a website that Dr. Meronk, who has recently retired, wrote. It's an entire guide that gives full explanation of eye surgeries. It's long but should definitely be read if you are considering eye surgery. I was the perfect candidate for a beautiful outcome. I have good skin, I take care of myself, I exercise, and I don't smoke, etc. What this Dr did to me is heartbreaking because he did things to my eyes that he didn't tell me he was going to do, and I do feel like my eyes are disfigured, and I don't look like myself. I asked him for a copy of his surgery notes so I could take them to another doctor to see if anything could be done. I wanted to look like myself and just remove a small amount of skin. I conceded to the small amount of fat in the corners of my eye. He took every bit of skin he could possibly take under my eyebrow to the point that it took six weeks for me to be able to close my eyes. In his notes, he said that he excised muscle which he Never told me he was going to do. I would have never had the surgery had I known that. I had botox to lift my eyebrows beforehand, and I thank God for that because now that it has worn off and my eyebrows have dropped, I can almost close my eyes w/out squeezing too hard. You also wake up every morning with crusty sleep in your eyes because they don't close all the way. I didn't know this, but we need to close our eyes. The skin on our eyelids is to protect our eyes so you don't want too much skin removed. The sun, the wind, and dust constantly get in my eyes now. I also cannot utilize the benefits of botox to raise the eyebrows anymore because I won't be able to close my eyes because too much skin was removed. When I shower or wash my face, I have to squeeze my eyes really hard not to get soap in them. I have a dark hollow look in the inside corners of my eyes where he removed fat. I have hollow in my crease where he removed muscle that he didn't tell me he was going to remove. He changed my eyelid crease height that he didn't tell me he was going to change. He totally rearranged my eyelid shape. This is the worst thing I've ever been through. I cry everyday when I look in the mirror when I put on makeup and when I take it off at night, I have this empty pit in my stomach. Something I was so excited about because I have seen beautiful, conservative results online has taken away so much of me. My eyes are my best and most expressive facial feature and shouldn't be taken lightly. My fiancé & I texted Dr Rotatori about our concerns after about 4 weeks after surgery. I asked him if he considered this aggressive. Dr Rotatori said to wait 3 months before making any judgments. That's when I asked for the notes to go to another doctor. It's been 3 months, and I feel the same and even worse now that most of the swelling is gone and my eyes look hollow and have a dark circles from the shadows of where fat and muscle was removed. If your fat is not bulging or unattractive leave it intact and leave your muscle so you have fullness in your eyelids that is not only feminine and attractive but it softens the eyes.
The diagram that Dr Rotatori drew looked like he would remove from 2-4 millimeters of skin, and when questioned after surgery, he said he removed 6-8 millimeters in height. I now know this was very aggressive, and just cannot understand why he completely disregarded what I said to him about wanting to look like myself and that I am very conservative. I just wanted to look like I did 3-4 years ago before I ever did botox , and my eyebrows started drooping. I'm so sad that I look so different and my eyes look so aged, hollow, and unhealthy.
By him removing so much skin and muscle, Dr Rotatori forever damaged my muscle and my eyes, and I look 10-15 years older and different.

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Replies (73)

March 22, 2015
Hi. I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I too had fat removed from the inner corners of my eyes. My one eye had a slightly herniated fat pad. Said he was going to remove. What he DID NOT tell me was that he would remove two from my left eye and one from the right. Thought he was only going to remove herniated one. During procedure I thought he was going to pull my eye out. That's how aggressive he was. I didn't even know the inner eye had two! My left eye has never been the same. It hurts me everyday. Even got a MRI.. Currently using Restasis. Has been a living nightmare. So I know how you feel and am very sorry you are dealing with this. I also have asymmetry now. I asked for skin off lashes only.. Told him I don't even wear eyeshadow. Did not listen. Feel like he butchered my eyes. I also have the darkness by the nose where all the fat was removed and feel like my eyes have been skeletonized. Actually have hole indent by nose. Hard to make eye contact with people. I was awake during the procedure and was marked lying down. Never measured, not once. Never sat up. My husband does carpentry work and measures WOOD twice before cutting. Also, no pin hole made and some fat teased out, nope all gone. I am also very depressed about this. Mad at myself too. Currently in therapy. Something you may want to consider to help you. You are so excited to finally do something for yourself. Every morning after surgery you race to the mirror like a kid on Christmas morning to see how you look...Hellish. I went to the gym three times a week and was in great shape. Now exercising makes my eye hurt worse. I am 8 months out. Your eyelid skin will relax. I am thinking about fillers for inner corners. But not sure if I can deal with the stress of it though. Fillers might be good for you. Just need to find someone you feel comfortable with and has plenty of experience. There is help out there just very difficult knowing who to trust. There is a doctor on here in Florida I think his name is Dr. Martin. Not sure how far he is from you. Might want to check him out. I went to a revison specialist and he said to wait until one year out before anymore surgery. Once again so sorry for your pain. There is someone out there to help us! Good luck to you. Keep me posted.
March 22, 2015
Hi Mollygirl, I too am so sorry for what you are going through and fully understand your feelings. Sounds like we had a very similar experience. My ps also had to tug the fat out...I was also awake. He drew on me and never measured anything. I've said to myself that I need therapy because I feel traumatized over this. I get sad, I get mad, I don't like looking at my shadowed eyes. It's good to know that my skin will get looser because it is pretty tight. I'm sorry you are feeling so bad that it hurts to exercise. I'm also going to try to heal for awhile, because I know I have a long way to go. Did your ps remove muscle too? I will look up Dr Martin. Thank you for the feedback and good luck to you.
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April 7, 2015

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April 10, 2015
Dreemkid, I am very happy for you, and wish I had similar results to be happy about for myself. I too grew very fond of my eyes over the past 50+ years, and I wanted to look like myself which you would think would be an easier outline to follow than to change a womans eyes. Unfortunately, the less aggressive surgeries of skin removal in eyelid surgery that I saw on the internet (which I know I was a candidate for) is not what Dr Rotatori did w/me, and he didn't inform me that he was going to excise my muscle from my eyelid. I wouldn't have done the surgery if he had told me he was going to remove muscle from my eyelid. I have worked out and been an athlete all my life so I wouldn't do that to my eyes. In addition, I liked my eyes and didn't want to change the shape or depth of my eyes....I just wanted some of the skin removed so the skin wasn't hanging on my eyelashes. I have read Dr Rotatori's reviews on breast reconstruction, augmentation, etc, which were all excellent, and I am so glad to hear that he was able to make you feel like you are a whole woman again. You look beautiful and very natural in your pictures. My eyes look very different, and I look operated on. I have always been told my eyes and smile were my best features. Can you imagine if you needed help w/your eyes (because you were starting to look tired as our skin ages and hangs down) instead of your breast needing the help of a surgeon, and that surgery wasn't successful? So now you no longer feel like you have the softness and femininity that a woman has in her eyes (it's the soft tissue {muscle and fat} around the eye that gives women that softness in their eyes). Forget about feeling you no longer have it, you know you no longer have it because you've seen so many pictures, and you see that that tiny amount of fat and soft muscle and every possible millimeter of excess skin was taken away and gone forever. Well that's what happened to me, and w/your eyes, when too much is taken away, you don't really have the opportunity for reconstructive surgery because there is no tissue left, and skin grafting leaves unsightly webbing that you don't have the means to conceal w/pretty clothing. My only hope is that fat grafting will replace some of the hollowness from the fat and muscle removed. You don't have to hibernate in hopes that someday your skin, muscle, & fat will grow back and you can bear to be seen by people that knew you. Perhaps, because of my misfortune and questions over conservative and aggressive eyelid surgery one month before your procedure, you were more fortunate to receive a much more conservative approach. You and I will never know, but I put up a stand for conservativeness. After 2 months, you look very beautiful and are able to post pictures of yourself on the internet, and after 4 months I am still healing from such an aggressive surgery, and probably not until I have some type of revision surgery will I be posting pictures of myself because, believe me, I'm not as happy w/how my eyes looks as you are w/yours. In fact, I am quite sad. As to your point about small talk, I didn't want small talk. I wanted communication. It's a vital part of the process. I would have liked for my surgeon to have made me "feel safe and trust that my surgeon could perform some sort of 'magic' that would allow me feel whole again" as Dr Rotatori did you. For me, this should have been a simple procedure. I didn't have any unsightly fat bulges or puffiness around my eyes. I had excess skin that was beginning to sag on my eyelashes. He made this complicated beyond skin removal, and he removed fat, muscle, too much skin, and reshaped my eyelids. Post surgery....I don't feel when I look in the mirror that I see me. I am more than disappointed w/the results so for me that is an empty feeling, and I have lost the eyes that I once knew which was a part of me, and that is now gone which is not what I was hoping for when I thought I wanted eyelid surgery. As I've said, I've seen many woman w/eyes w/similar set of circumstances that had incredibly beautiful and very conservative results (meaning that excess skin only was removed), and that is what I was hoping for.,,a minimal enhancement. Maybe because of my concern shown through text messages to Dr Rotatori in early January, you received a more conservative removal of skin during your eyelid surgery in February. I don't think I had unrealistic expectations when I only wanted a conservative amount of skin removed (4 millimeters at the highest point, and he removed 8 millimeters that he recalled). That's double of what he showed us in his sketch. I had a small lid crease all of my life, and now I have a large lid crease and hollowness. That would make anyone look very different, and that is totally unacceptable and unfair to the person this is done to, which in this case is me.
April 10, 2015
Glad you are happy about your results, but it seems rather selfish and self absorbed to be gloating about it to someone who didn't get the outcome they hoped for. This post is about her, not you.
May 24, 2015
I agree Casey655.
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June 23, 2015
I know what u mean realself63. I feel your pain even though I had this botched surgery 13yrs ago, I still regret so much trusting this #%^## dr. do my botched surgery. You can't forgive yourself for allowing that to happen. I hope you find a surgeon that can fix ur eyes.
April 8, 2015
So sorry for your troubles. It's such a hard decision to make, but once you do, you get so excited for the outcome, so I'm sure, not liking the result has to be heartbreaking. If it's been 3 months or more, you can probably get some opinions from other doctors on revisions and what can be done. Don't give up hope! A lot of amazing things can be done if you find the right doctor. Take care.
April 10, 2015
Thank you for the encouragement Casey656. I do plan on seeing other doctors that I have seen excellent results on this site. I'm hoping that getting some fat grafting will help fill in some of the hollowness from where the muscle and fat was removed. I've been told to wait 6 months. I still have numbness in my lids and dryness. Until something like this happens to you, you don't think of how emotionally painful it can feel if the unthinkable happens. Thanks for your understanding and encouraging words.
April 10, 2015
6 months makes sense I guess to ensure full healing. While you're waiting for that, researching revision doctors is an excellent idea. Just trying to think of things that will make the time pass quicker and pull you out of the blues. I'm sure you've seen all over this site that there have been some amazing corrective surgery results posted.. 6 months from now this could just be a bad memory. Hang in there!
April 14, 2015
Thanks again Casey656. I will look for doctors on this site for help. I looked up your doctor and wanted to congratulate you on your results. She doesn't show results of her patients faces, but she as many positive reviews for eye surgery. On 1 review, the patient posted pictures of her eyelid surgery, and it amazing. Do you know if she does eyelid revisions? I'm hanging in there and trying to stay positive :-). Your comments have been very helpful.
April 14, 2015
I don't know if she does revisions, but it's worth a call to her office. As you know if you read my review, I just love her. She showed me before and after pics of face work that she's done in her office. She doesn't put face pictures on her site for privacy reasons
April 14, 2015
I will give her office a call. I saw your review and quite a few others that she did eyelid surgery....all were very pleased. I'm really happy for you. Sounds like you got just what you needed.
April 11, 2015
I feel so bad for you. My gut tells me that this doctor subconsciously resented your questioning his judgment in yr consultation. This was not yr fault, and I hope you will not in any way "beat up on" yrself. Thank you for generously taking yr time to give us these painful details. I hope another surgeon can help you. Please keep us posted if you don't feel it an injury to yr feelings to do so.
April 14, 2015
Thanks Danielle57. It has been an emotionally painful experience. I posted because I don't want anyone to go through what I have. I am getting better about beating up on myself. I'm hoping that fat grafting will soften my eyes because they do look much harder. I will post when I find someone that can help.
April 11, 2015
Mollygirl, I am nauseated to read of yr awful experience. Glad you are in therapy (forgot to suggest that to real self63). If not a problem, would you mind saying the name & location yr ps?
April 17, 2015
Dr John Lee, Bryn Mawr, PA.
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5 months post

don't recognize my eyes

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I wanted to look like myself w a small amount skin removed so I looked like I did about 3-4 years earlier. I was afraid to get an eyebrow lift because I thought it was aggressive so this seemed much simpler and a quick fix. Dr Rotatori said he would have to remove a tiny amount of fat near my right eye, and I wouldn't even notice. Other than that he drew a very small amount of skin that he would remove (looked like started at 1 millimeter, tapered up to 3-4 millimeters and back down). Instead after surgery he told me from what he recalled he removed 6-8 millimeters of skin, removed a very noticeable amount of fat, and removed my muscle which is why I have still not fully recovered like most people that elect to have conservative skin-only upper eyelid surgery). I would have never done this if he would have told me he was going to cut out my muscle and change my eyes around. I've seens 100's of eye surgeries w/women that had similar problems as me and they came out beautifully, conservative, very natural looking and just like a younger version of themselves. This was a very aggressive surgery and other doctors agree that it was. I told Dr Rotatori that I was conservative and wanted to look like myself, and my eyes don't look anything like I've ever looked in my life or anyone in my family. I use to have very soft eyes, and now they are hard and aged. Fat and muscle are what keep us young and young looking. I look hollow and operated on w/weird curves and scars that don't look natural at all. I have to wear eye make-up to hide myself. My eye skin looks pulled when I smile. I look like a plastic surgery freak when I wake up in the morning. I don't like being seen, I'm self-conscious, my eyes are dry and now they bother my all the time. I can't imagine what I will look like in 10-15 years when we naturally lose fat and muscle around our eyes. I was such an easy patient. I didn't want to change. I wanted the most conservative approach. I can't believe somebody would do this to me on purpose when they could have done so much less. It should have been a simple surgery. I've found so many conservative surgeons on this site that believe in the latest tissue sparing techniques that produce natural results.

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May 24, 2015
Thank you for your story. You are still beautiful.
May 25, 2015
Thank you :-)
June 22, 2015
I am sorry for what you are going through...I am going through the same ordeal so I know how devastating it is. I am looking into fillers to see if that will help as I have emailed some people through this site and they say it has helped them with the shape change and hollowness. The last thing I want to do at this point is have stuff injected into my eye area, but I am at the point where things have not changed for the better like they were supposed to when the supposed "swelling" subsided and everything settles. My eyes look very similar to yours and I am so sorry for what you are going through. No one should ever have to experience this...no one.
June 26, 2015
Hi newgirl007, Thank you for the recommendation. I've been going back and forth w/do I want to put fillers in my eyes for the rest of my life, or do I want to do something more permanent like fat grafting which seems to be riskier because it is permanent if your not happy w/how it shapes the new area. I just read your review and am so sorry for all that you have gone through. I haven't seen your photos, but I know everything you've said is accurate since the same has happened to me. I don't know how these doctors can think that gutting out a woman's eyes can possibly be attractive or anything she would want. Dr Michael Law in Raleigh, NC has a fantastic eye and does beautiful work on the eyes. Dr thomas Lee in Baltimore, Md has good reviews on noses and revisions. There's also a guy in New Jersey that does only rhinoplasty named Dr Becker. I don't know much about them....just have read their reviews. I will keep you posted on what I decide on my eyes and let you know how it turns out. Take care.
September 16, 2015
Hi realself63, I have read your story and it is very similar to mine. Needless Aggressive bleph surgery, changing my facial structure. so sorry you are going through this, as I know it is a nightmare. Have you had any luck looking into revision surgeons?
I dont have a personal review but I would appreciateyour opinion on my photos if you dont mind. My email is cbsony@yahoo.com if you are ok emailing me, and I can send you my photos.
Thank you and God Bless.
C
October 13, 2015
Hi smokincb,
Sorry I'm not on RS much, and sorry you have been through what I have. It's a horrifying experience. I will email you tomorrow as it is getting late.
Take care
June 26, 2015
I want to express that I felt exactly the same way as you are describing, but it has been since March 5, 2015 and I have to say I can finally close my eyes at least 98% in my right and 95% in my left, since my left side was so much worse. The corners of my eyes near my nose was very tight and Asian like, not anymore, gets better every day. I too went to Dr. Rotatori and cannot say enough kind things about him and his staff. I had also had a face/neck lift and am still quite numb and most likely will be up to a year from what I have read and others have told me.
I'm sorry you are feeling so disappointed and discouraged.
I also want to add how badly I swelled and had to be put on steroids :-(
I live in St. Louis and came to Florida by recommendation of my best friend of 50 years... And now I cannot be happier. Sometimes I wish he would had been more aggressive in his approach, but I'm quite happy :-)
June 26, 2015
Thank you for your thoughtful post. I'm really glad that things cleared up for you and turned out good. I've seen Dr Rotatori's face/necklifts from new posts since my surgery and they look very good. Dr Rotatori was highly recommended to me by my fiance. I was told if anything, he will be too conservative. My fiance knows a few people that have had this procedure done w/Dr Rotatori where it turned out beautifully. Then there's me, and something like this happens. My fiance thinks my surgery was out of the ordinary and Dr Rotatori took way more than necessary and more than he described to us, and he didn't mention removing my muscle. I really wish that another six months were going to make a difference for me, but I know I can't grow my skin back or put that muscle back that was removed.
Even though I am very scared to have another surgery, I will probably do some conservative fat transfer and then Restalyne if there's still hollowness near my nose. I have gained about 10 pounds in the past month to see what I would look like if I had more fat. The fullness looks better around my eyes, but I feel like a stuffed pig at this weight. I've never in my life thought I'm going to try and gain some weight to look better? I hate the way my eyes look, and I get so upset every time I go to do my eyes when I'm getting ready to go somewhere for a special occasion. I do have a really ugly scar in the corner my right eye, and I hate the way my eyes go into my scull from muscle removal. I can barely curl my eyelashes because the upper half of my eyeball sits deeper in my eye socket. I didn't want to change my eyes....just remove the small amount of skin that started touching my eyelashes. You said that your surgery was March 5, 2015. Mine was December 15, 2014 so maybe he was more conservative w/you after my concerned texts to him in January. I'm truly happy for you, and I don't want anyone to feel the way I do. Be glad he wasn't more aggressive, and you are happy just the way things are :-)
July 8, 2015
Thank you for your response. My heart goes out to you and I will keep you in my prayers :-)
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June 26, 2015
Hi, I am so sorry for your anquish, I had a similar experience with my surgery on May 18th, 2015. When your eyes dont look the same it is very scary. I wanted to suggest that you have a consultation woth Dr. Michael Patipa in West Palm Beach, FL, he is an oculoplastic surgeon who specializes in fixing complications from eyelid surgeries. He ONLY does eyes. I was only 36 days post op but wanted a second opinion since my PS would only tell me that all my issues were due to the mysterious "swelling". I found this doctor, who had been recommended by other PDon real self and his website shows that he specializes in revisions. I saw him this week d feel much better, becasue he explained what was happening structurally, what I could do to help it heal, and what my options were if I was still unhappy after 6 months. This is what I wanted toknow, not a bunch of BS, which made me much more frightened, then if I had just been told the truth.

I am also trying to get used to having bigger eyes, deeper eyes, etc, that dont look like "me" but to most people dont look as awful as I think they do. Like you, I only wanted the subtle change that the Dr and everyone else seemed to get. I was very attached to my eyes as well. I hope you see Dr. Patipa, he is very kind and considered the best of the best. At least you will knowyour options.
I wish you all the best
June 28, 2015
Thank you so much ZenBod. I will look him up. I have calmed down. The first couple of months were awful because all you can do is try to get use to the new you, and you don't like what you see in the mirror. It's just so unfair for these doctors that aren't using the latest techniques to not say "you are not going to look the same" when you tell them, "I want to be conservative and I want to look like myself", and they don't tell you everything they are going to do. I realize it's a business, but this can dramatically affect someones life for the worse.

I'm so glad you are feeling better....physically and mentally, and you have found a doctor that you can communicate with and has a great reputation. Keep me updated on your progress. Take care
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July 7, 2015
Thank you too. The arrogance is unbelievable. I Had another follow up with my surgeon, and tried my best to convey to him constructive critism, so that he might understand the anquish and terror he has unduly caused me. He was STILL unable to say that their were complications! Just Incredible. He started out by saying , " The first possible complication of eye surgery is death, then blindness..." I said oh so Im not dead or blind, so I should be happy? Simply deluded. Minthink he really thinks that.
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July 8, 2015

Hi again, I wanted to tell you I went to Dr. Michael Law's website and saw his before and after photos and felt very hopeful that he can help me and you as well. You may have already looked at it, becasue You mentioned him, but his structural fat grafting of the upper lid looked like it had amazing results to get rid of the ridiculous gauging of skin and fat that was done to our upper lids. I didnt realize that could be fixed.

I called his office and then one of his nurses , Debbie, called back to conduct an interview with me about my issues. As I suspected, she said they would want me to wait until 6 moths post op to send them photos and get back in touch, but she was very encouraging.
I have several different issues, and I suppose only time will tell which ones are the highest priority to fix after 6 mos:
lower lid retraction
change in eye shape with "sad eyes",
upper hollow eyes
lower hollowness and dark circles,
non dynamic (frozen) lower lids that dont move up when I smile.

Anyway, just wanted to pass this info along to you. Dr. Patipa in West Palm Beach may also do fat grafting, but I had not addressed my upper eye hollowness with him. Dr. Law seems like he does this. Procedure all the time. I will tell you this though, I am not doing anything to my face without researching several surgeons and meeting them in person and asking them exactly what they would do.

July 8, 2015
Hi ZenBod, Thanks for getting back to me. I commend you on your strength :-) I don't think I could have your composure. I did look at Dr Law's website. That's why I bring him up. When I saw his results I was very encouraged that he could help w/the hollowness. I also have tried to gain weight, and every week my eyes look better (as if I've had fat grafting). This week I've got to try to get a handle on this now because I am getting too heavy, and my eyes are looking very pulled and tight because I don't have enough skin. The over fullness also shows the different shape he cut my eyelids so it looks very unnatural and evil. I'm pointing this out because there is a very fine line of how much fat so I like that Dr Law emphasizes doing a little at a time. I don't like being this heavy so I am still going to do fat grafting. I am going to see Dr Law later this month so I will let you know how that goes. I also saw Dr Jeffrey Hartog in Winter Park, FL that does fat grafting to the face. He also banks your fat so you don't have to have fat taken out every time. He was very thorough and looks at the long term picture of how your face is aging. I believe he would have told me not to do any eye surgery but to get fat grafting along w/botox to lift the eyebrows, or get an eyebrow lift if I don't want to do botox. (Wish I had known about the fat grafting before I did this). Anyhow, I liked this doctor a lot, but I'm like you after this experience (I want to make sure I talk w/a couple of doctors and feel very comfortable w/my next step). I think the 6 month period is very important. My eyes are feeling better w/the muscles starting to heal and relax so hopefully that frozen look you are talking about will fade in the next couple of months. If you had muscle taken out like I did then you have quite a bit of healing to do for the 1st 6 months and then some. Is your lid retraction getting better? There's definitely light at the end of the tunnel. Keep in touch & I will do the same.
June 28, 2015
Hi Realself63, I am so sorry this happened to you. I, too, had this surgery on December 11, 2012. I went to Jack Friedland in Scottsdale, Az. He took out my orbicularis oculi muscles in my upper eyelids. I had no idea he was going to take out muscle. He put my incisions in totally different places...my right upper eyelid incision was in the crease and my left upper eyelid incision was way below the crease. I have lagophthalmos in my left eye (still). My eyelids are still so tight everyday. I hate to look in the mirror
because of the asymmetry and the hollowness in my left eye. I had a year of severe anxiety and depression. I am doing alot better now, but feel the tightness everyday. I have to load my eyes with ointment at night and use drops several times a day. Jack Friedland would not take any responsibility for this. I have considered filler in my upper eyelids but I don't have the courage yet. I saw that you had mentioned Dr. Law. If only we would have went to him. Please take a look at Dr. George Yang's (New York City) website. If I get the courage to try fillers, I think I will go to him. I have talked to others on this website and they say he is very kind and very good. Please keep me posted if you find anyone you trust. Prayers....
June 28, 2015
I forgot to mention that I have a double eyelid fold on my upper left eyelid. He put the incision so low on my lid that skin hangs over it and also hangs over my natural crease. He cut off to much skin below the incision, so I cant shut my eye (see my picture). When I told Jack Friedland that I had this, he leaned back in his chair, crossed his legs, crossed his arms, smirked, and said "That's an oxymoron...saying you have a double skin fold but yet you can't close your eye." He was so rude.
June 28, 2015
Hi Quack Jack, I'm so sorry for all you gone through, what you are still going through 2 1/2 years later, & surely the arrogance of your doctor. I will definitely keep you posted if I find a doctor that I trust and is able to help our situation. Sounds like we had the same old school procedure w/out being told by the surgeon or his videotapes. Thank you so much for your understanding and prayers. Take care