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PRP with Dermapen. - Vancouver, BC

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I choose this clinic because I wanted this...

karpun
WORTH IT$747
I choose this clinic because I wanted this particular procedure. I wanted the dermapen anyways, so I thought why not combine 2 great procedures in one....my body also has a inappropriate response to most stress, so lasers, and hi frequency were not an option for me. I have consulted for a facelift, but decided to wait until fall, and work on improving my skin as a facelift doesn't address your skin, only laxity. There was lots of clinics offering injections of PRP, but I wanted even distribution of the serum, so I went with this clinic. What I learned is that if I was to repeat this procedure, I would advise the person doing dermapen to do my eyes, nose, and mouth first, then do the rest. My numbing cream wore off in the time, she left my eyes for last, and I couldn't handle any of it, so my eyes didn't get micro needling, which is unfortunate as this was my problem area. Sorry it seams as though all my pictures are upside down? I took pics of 2 products I used to prep my face for weeks before the procedure. The first is the fungasoap, which I LOVE! I have told all my friends about this. I use it from my face to my feet, this stuff will naturally get rid of any organisms not meant to be there. I also used Monistat cream on my face for 3 days and nights, and it made my skin bump free and totally smooth. Use the fungasoap on any breakouts or lesions and you will see them heal overnight. You can Buy these products over the counter in your pharmacy. The funga soap is in the foot section, and the Monistat is in women's care. You don't see results for weeks for this procedure so I will post updated pictures as time goes on. BTW I have been lurking here for a year, I appreciate everyone who posts their experience with pictures, I learned so much.

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March 19, 2016
Thank you for your post and your pics! I'm glad you decided to join us and share your experience! Now others will benefit from your story too!What goals do you want to achieve with the microneedling and dermapen? From what I've read in your post, you want wrinkle reduction and clearer skin, is that right?
March 19, 2016
Yes wrinkle reduction, and I have old scars from picking that are shallow, but can be seen in sunlight. Overall I want to look natural and healthy. Horizontal wrinkles don't bother me, but vertical ones do.
December 30, 2018
It works great. What is the name of the clinic and doctor you went? I live in Edmonton and don’t know if any of doctors do it here.
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March 19, 2016
Did you pay $975 for one treatment or for a series?
March 19, 2016
For 1 treatment. Dermapen is 275.00 in Vancouver so it was 700.00 extra.for PRP.
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May 27, 2016
That's wild. I am paying $400 for the Dermapen and $400 for the PRP. Purchased as a series of six I get 15% off on the Dermapen. This is in pricey Greenwich, CT.
March 22, 2016
Karpun--I am having this done tomorrow. I need to go to work Thursday. After seeing your pics, I don't think that will be possible.
How many days do you need to wait to put on makeup so you don't scare everyone. I am thinking of cancelling tomorrow. BTW, you are very beautiful!
March 23, 2016
Sorry I didn't see this question in time for your appointment? For me my appointment was on a Thursday. So Friday, Saturday and Sunday were out if the question. I went out yesterday after I used some St Ives exfoliant that is pretty gentle, lots of moisturizer and mineral foundation. Within an hour I was flaking everywhere and put on some salve on dry spots. Today, Tuesday I put on liquid foundation and again it looked ok for a few hours then dry spots and flakes appeared. I wore a hat and sunglasses. i really think it depends on the technician using the Dermapen and how aggressive and deep and how much time they spend on one spot. I am actually glad I peeled so much......my forehead is itchy today so I know that is the healing part. Here is what I recommend anyone who goes for dermapen. Make sure they do your trouble areas first and go as deep as setting as possible. On my forehead she did 2ml, my cheeks were 1.5 mm and my chin too, the bony or thin parts had to go as low as .8 mm. The whole procedure took over an hour so didn't do my eyes, and very light on my upper lip and chin, which were all my trouble spots. Do your areas of concern first. I have seen a lot of people wonder why they didn't peel, now I know the answer, not aggressive enough. Good luck, and thank you for your nice comment, I sure have felt unattractive for a few days...
March 23, 2016
Sorry I meant to say the numb agent wore off so I couldn't take anything under my eyes...
March 22, 2016
Thanks for leaving pics and details. Following your results.
April 13, 2016
You came out absolutely gorgeous! Thank you for all the cleaning supply hints, never heard of any of those! Allyson
April 13, 2016
Oh thank you, I just posted pictures of products, including ingredients .
UPDATED FROM karpun
1 day post

Next day, found out I did not get SELPHYL!!!!

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I feel a bit confused and a bit angry too. There are several brands or types of PRP and the one I chose and researched was SELPHYL. The clinic has this on their website and I confirmed when I booked. However today I looked at videos and my procedure looked drastically different than SELPHYL. So I called the office and asked point blank, and the person who answered the phone said no, it was Harvest! Then the Dr. Came on and explained that Harvest was superior ....I complained that I booked for SELPHYL. i told she needs to change her website and she agreed. But then....I got a follow up email from the clinic that is automatic and not personal and they state SELPHYL twice in the email. Thanks for booking SELPHYL and when you are ready to rebook SELPHYL give us call. That made me upset. The doctor was trying to appease me and made an offer to re do in SELPHYL. I asked the real self doctors what their opinion is and then I will decide what I am going to do about this. Bummer, seems like no matter how much research and questions I always get duped!

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April 28, 2016
What are the other over the counter creams and serums you use for a "face lift in a jar" effect? I was unable to see the names on some of the droppers bottles and creams in her pictures.
June 9, 2016
Having sold a few different PRP systems, the volume of blood taken in the SELPHYL system doesn't seem like it's enough to get a high enough platelet concentration in 5-8ml's of PRP. Quite a few systems out there including harvest are taking about 40cc of blood to get about 5-8ml's of PRP with roughly a 1 million platelet count. I'd side with your doctor's initial statement. And while it's a bummer he hasn't updated his site, he probably made the choice for good reason. Working with quite a few docs, most are of the opinion that patient oriented marketing by these companies is a bad thing as people read, do very minor research and deem themselves experts trying to dictate what the doctor should use. They're doing these procedures day in and day out. They see the results and get better results using products they're comfortable using.

Bottom line is about platelet concentrations. I can't find anywhere where it says what volume of blood they're actually taking from the patient for SELPHYL, but considering the collection tube isn't much bigger than the butterfly needle they use, I would imagine the platelet concentration is quite low in comparison to a system like harvest that's taking more blood. Just my two cents which is about what it's worth.
November 14, 2016
Totally agree. Dual spin systems like harvest or Emcyte are the only ones I would even consider. Ask the dr or nurse at the medical establishment what you are getting. Real PRP is dual spin...and not test tubes!!! Be very aware..so many cheap and worthless machines.
November 14, 2016
Yep. If you're getting 5-7cc's of PRP you should be starting with 50cc of blood, give or take. Some systems might just get rid of the red blood cells and not separate out the remaining plasma. You get systems with a minimal blood draw that do this, and the platelet levels can't begin to compare. Might as well just tape a test tube to the wall and wait for the natural separation to occur. Pretty much the same thing. If you're paying for it, make sure you know what you're paying for.
November 14, 2016
edit....40cc on the amount of blood taken. Usually taking a 50cc syringe with about 10cc of anti coagulant.
November 16, 2016
Harvest is either 30 or 60ML.
May 12, 2017
Do you happen to know any good doctors in Los Angeles that you could recommend?
May 12, 2017
I'm an east coaster, so I don't. But I imagine you can call emcyte or Harvest and they'll have lists of surgeons that use in the LA area. Then you can narrow down by patient reviews on here. Or start with that on here.
September 24, 2016
me too.
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January 20, 2017
So many names for a simple procedure!!! Selphyl...etc... I am 44 years old woman .. just with 1 procedure I saw a hugeeee difference my skin look like a baby skin.. and I just use vitamin c and hyaluronic acid at night....research for some quality real doctor ... because expensive does not mean good...
May 12, 2017
Are you in Los Angeles by any chance? Im looking for simmering in LA
May 12, 2017
Someone in Los Angeles sorry!
August 30, 2020
Are you saying you use the vitamin C and hyaluronic acid after derma pen or just nightly?
August 30, 2020
Omg! I just scrolled down this page and saw that I asked you that exact same question last year. I didn't even remember.
March 12, 2017
Whichever it was, it worked great! You look beautiful!
UPDATED FROM karpun
2 days post

Day 2 peeling

karpun
Here is pictures I am starting to peel quite a bit.

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March 29, 2017
Did you wash your face the next morning and apply hyalauronic acid? I just had my facial yesterday and I have several red patches where she went really deep.
March 29, 2017
I only applied extra virgin olive oil, and used generic Monistat cream, the vials that are meant to go internally in vagina as an anti fungal. But I used as face cream to prevent bumps and yeast....It has no smell, non irritating, and very very hydrating and healing. Those red patches will heal and peel off. Mine peeling always started on day 3 and was finished by day 6 or 7. I am not saying you should do what I did. That is what felt right for my skin. If you want just do olive oil masks, especially when u start to peel, it will hydrate the new fresh skin. I just rinsed my face with water for days after. To get the oil off just use warm washcloth it will dissolve. Do not peel your skin, no matter how tempting, you will get red blotches just like a chemical peel if you peel before it wants to slough off naturally.