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58 Year Old to Remove Without Replacement, Silicone Breast Implants, After 35 Years of Multiple Revisions - West Hartford, CT

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2 years post

Fat Transfer to Breasts, After Implant Removal, Aged 60

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It's been over two years since my implant removal. And dealing with the damaged remains of my breasts has been somewhat depressing, to say the least. At first I gained weight (too many milkshakes). But then I realized I'd better stop spiraling downward, & prepare my health for surgery, since it only gets riskier, when you're older. So, I went on a low fat vegan diet & lost about 50 pounds in the last year. My self esteem certainly improved from that, but still I couldn't get past the surgical damage, without some surgical intervention. After many months of research into the best way to salvage my breasts after years of implant disasters, I finally decided upon Fat Transfer. To fix my partial symmastia in the usual manner, would have involved tunneling underneath my already healed down breasts, & stitching in strattice. This began to seem seemed excessively costly, invasive, & unrealistic. Especially, when I did not wish to restore implants. I was told by Dr. Cohen's office that strattice is routinely used (which is very expensive), & he felt that combining that with fat transfer, was way too complex. In other words, he predominantly works with implants. I also explored the Diep Flap procedure for refilling tissue loss. But if cancer is not the cause of your tissue loss, insurance will not cover the costs (which are astronomical). And with a hospital stay involved, it can run into the $100,000 range. So it all boiled down to, how could I best improve the shape, & volume of my breasts, in the most cost effective way? Fat transfer seemed the only logical way. Next, was to find the right doctor. I have been reluctant to travel too far away from home for surgery in the past. But this time I researched online, various doctors all over the country who specialize in Fat Transfer. Many of them prefer, &/or require, the use of the BRAVA system. At first it seemed possibly helpful, but when I discovered it costs about $2000. - just for the device! And I would also have to wrestle with it for up to a month before the procedure, as well as for some extended period afterward, it started to seem like overkill. Many doctors also stated that asymmetry would most likely require more than one treatment to fix, so that was also a bit disheartening. Those who don't use BRAVA argued, that it mostly has benefits for women with tight skin, who are seeking to avoid scars. So it seemed that in my case (deflation after implants, & already indented scarring), perhaps BRAVA was not necessary. Then, there was the issue of consults. Would I have to fly somewhere, to merely speak with various doctors? The nearest people to me who performed this procedure, required either a long formidable drive on a major highway (the kind with four lanes, & high speed trucks, that sometimes wind up in long traffic jams that last for hours). Or, I could take a 3 hour bus trip (one way) pay a $100. consult fee, & either endure a 3 hour bus trip home that same day, or a $200. overnight hotel stay, plus dinner. This is where the streamlined preparedness of Dr. Bednar, & his team began to really shine. The only thing a bit formidable about him was the medical questionaire. But that is quite typical with any doctor, & at least I could fill it all out in the comfort & privacy of my home, online. Then, I had to take a few photos to upload up for him, so he could assess my needs. Shortly after that, Sylvia (his patient co-ordinator) arranged for a phone consult where he answered all of my questions. He said he thought that stem cells in transferred fat might perhaps stimulate my cleavage skin to re-grow. (Scar tissue had already done it somewhat). And while he could loosen the tethered scar, & the lower pole somewhat with the injections, it was not completely possible to predict if it might hold open over time. A second procedure could still be necessary to completely repair my asymmetry, & tuberous left breast shape. But he felt that he could at least offer some improvement, to what I was presently dealing with. Since he was the first doctor I could so easily talk to about the whole process, & the others had been so inaccessible, it was beginning to shape up as a no-brainer to work with him. Also, since lots of women on Real Self had documented, & expressed many happy experiences working with him, & this procedure; that added to my confidence, that he was the best choice. A direct flight to Charlotte, NC was actually much easier, & more luxurious, than a bus trip to Boston, or a combo with trains, to New York. And a new hotel with a kitchenette had just opened up near them (with a Whole Foods nearby), so that made the whole recovery experience quite comfortable. He, & his entire staff were all wonderful. While any surgery is difficult, especially away from home, I felt like this was about the easiest option I could have taken. I would have posted about my procedure plans beforehand as is customary, but my computer suddenly put me through a series of long updates, right before I had to leave. So this is being posted shortly after my return home. The After photos were taken 72 hours after surgery, when my breast bandage first came off, along with a quick peek under the lower body garment. I still have a long way to heal.

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October 5, 2017
thanks so much for updating re the fat transfer. Your case was more complicated than many and reminds me of mind. I'm older so am following as many women close in my age. Just in the research phase and not sure what to do. Two implants one breast that of a 65 yo woman ( small implant for symmetry ) right breast is like a 12 yo as the implant has ruptured. also excessive tight scars from subcutan. mastect. when I was 25. I do want both implants out been in since '91. My age and also need to lose weight but not too much since fats transfer interests me. Because of the malignancy at 25 some of my cost may be paid by insurance.
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October 5, 2017
I was once afraid of "loosing too much weight" for a Fat Transfer, but many doctors actually prefer you to loose excess pounds before the procedure, so the fat they utilize is of the type less likely to disappear with any future weight loss. A low fat, whole plant based diet (I believe) will not only help you with that, but will most likely offer you maximum protection from any further cancer, as well (see The China Study, by T. Collin Campbell). I would definitely get rid of the implants first, & see if your asymmetry could be corrected or diminished by some other means, as well. Fat transfer they say, can do it alone. But, it may take more than one procedure to achieve complete symmetry. And while there are no major incisions involved, this still takes a LOT out of you' (literally), going through the lipo. I still have seven cannula slits with stitches, as well as a LOT of bruising, & swelling. And it takes 3 months of protecting (not compressing, or even handling) your breasts, while the fat cells seek out a blood supply to grow in with. I'm very sore all over from this, & it's no doubt even more challenging with my age. I would NOT want to have to repeat this procedure. (I'll have to wait & see what happens.) In my case, I'm being extra tortured by not being able to obtain Chiropractic adjustments for sciatic relief. I'm not sorry I did it, AT ALL! But it's still a LONG journey to full recovery. Hanging around an airport (even without connections) shortly after a major procedure like this, was very challenging. The anti-inflammatory medication made me feel like I might fall asleep, & pass out. Any lines I stood in were certainly not too helpful with all the swelling, & bruising, even though my compression garment, & socks gave good support. I would also investigate the 'certainty' of your insurance coverage. If your cancer occurred "too long ago," they could try to find a way to claim your fat transfer needs are 'not related', & are 'merely cosmetic.' You never know with Insurance. They could have some sort of 'statute of limitations.' Also, some doctors warn that the transferred fat could cause your future mammograms into giving confusing readings, misidentifying the transfer fat cells as micro-calcifications, etc.. Also, the few doctors who actually are experienced in fat transfer to breasts, will often say they can't get more than a half a cup size retained, as the final outcome. That's why many women turn to Doctor Bednar. He's good at finding fat on even thin women, & adding a good quantity of volume. But there are other factors to consider as well, such as your location (there may be someone qualified closer to you), as well as your general, present health.
December 18, 2017
Thank you for sharing your story. I too was left with some significant deformity after 23 years of silicone implants. After a lift post explant I am less deformed but I often wonder if fat could help fill in some remaining dents where tissue was lost. I have spoke with a number of doctors, but after some tissue death associated with my lift I'm super nervous, especially given the cost. How are you healing?
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December 19, 2017
My 2 month post op with pictures, is posted under "Fat Transfer With Dr. Bednar." (So I could rate him.) The nature of the procedure is that you do lose some of what is harvested & injected, because some of the fat cells take root & grow in, while others do not. He estimates on average, women can expect to retain about 65%. Although,
it's really impossible to guarantee anything, since every patient is different, & it all happens on a cellular level. It IS a pricey procedure, but I found Dr. Bednar to be comparatively reasonable. I have retained enough fat to basically fill out the severe dent on my right side, & hold curve at the lower pole line. Although, it still has a slight wrinkle horozontally across the bottom, in the front. Because I was so asymmetrical, he warned me - in advance - that it might take two procedures to fully rebuild my tissue enough to balance. He also was able to whiten out my scars quite a bit, & that's been a really nice bonus! I'd say things are vastly improved from before, & it was worth it to me! The hardest part has really been the lipoed areas, where the numbness & itching have lingered, longer than I expected. But that's slowly improving, & I've been really happy having slimmer thighs, & hips! So, there were multiple benefits. Dr. Bednar & his team are top notch, super competent, & most women have been supremely happy; especially if you're just looking to fill in, & curve out a dent, as opposed to gaining massive volume. In any case, you'll look really augmented, at first! But you have to avoid touching your breasts (too much) or sleeping on them, for 3 months! And that's a bit of a severe prohibition for some people. It's actually almost been 3 months for me, now! So I can soon wear something besides a sports bra! Yay!! I don't think my shape has changed very much, from the 2 month pictures. Although, I may be slightly thinner (due to low my fat vegan diet - unrelated to procedure). He recommends patients eat high protein (as per the general belief these days). I think that perhaps foods high in phytoestrogens might help to retain the cells, but I only recently started researching that. Maybe, that will help with my retention efforts, on my next go round! Age may also affect how well a woman's hormones will co-operate with regrowth as well. It's no doubt, a little more challenging for women past menopause.
December 19, 2017
That's wonderful for you. Thank you for the thoughtful response. I certainly don't want size - maybe a half cup to fill in some dents, but I don't think I have enough healthy base tissue to retain much either with six previous surgeries. I'm at an A cup now. I may just wait it out and see if menopause gives me the half cup instead, thanks again and I hope you continue to do well.
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December 19, 2017
Thank you.
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11 months post

Seeking Reconstruction For Multiple, Post Implant Issues

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It's been nearly one year since my silicone breast implant removal. And while I have some relief from their absence, I am still suffering somewhat, both physically & aesthetically, from the damage remaining, after years of multiple surgeries, struggling with trying to align them naturally. I still have partial synmastia damage, on both sides where the skin was torn away from my sternum, leaving painful spots, & an uneven cleavage line. In the two front views, the left side (my right breast), was wrongfully excised in the upper region. And on the right (my left breast), the most painful spot is in the lower front patch, where there should be a clean curve. I'm also in perpetual discomfort from needing the parameter expanded, & loosened, so my breast tissue can have more room for circulation, more normal slopes, & natural feel. I asked for pocket loosening before my last implant exchange, but did not receive that. It's been somewhat 'over lifted' for a while, to the point of excess tightness on both sides, now even more so, after the implant removal. The bottom, lower left picture (my right breast) shows the tuberous shape I now endure, due to both lifting & tissue excision, done at the time of explant. Tissue removal was done because of an infection that occurred, when the incision (from implant exchange surgery) was not properly closed all the way. That left me with an oozing hole for quite a while afterward. When a few rounds of antibiotics did not resolve it, Dr. Schreiber finally resutured it. But afterward, it still felt weird & squishy in that whole region, like it never fully healed properly. That breast also developed capsular contracture, due to the infection & a tight pocket. So it was definitely for the best that I got the implants out! He discovered & removed some questionable tissue during the process. It was sent to a lab, & checked for malignancy. None was found. This was aesthetically unfortunate for me though, since that side was already smaller than the other one. So now, it's even more pronounced, & the shape is completely off from the other side. I've totally had it with implants! And I'm now contemplating the possibility of some kind of, fat transfer repair, or perhaps a diem flap, or something. I don't exactly know what's best for my case or possible, with my particular issues. It's also tough to find someone who has the skill to handle my multiple problems. (And I shutter to imagine the cost.) Since I never had cancer, merely botched implant work, with 'unspecified disease' tissue removal, I don't know that insurance would help cover any of this. So for now, I'm posting this just as an informational reference, to help provide insight to the various doctors I may need to confer with. For pictures & descriptions of what I'm dealing with, & my history.

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September 10, 2016
You should contact the TV show "Botched". Those two doctors have performed miracles!!!
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September 10, 2016
I think I may have found someone with the skill I need, & less flight time travel involved. I've seen the show, but I don't know that they deal in DIEP Flap reconstruction, which is a specialty usually reserved for cancer disfigurement. And unfortunately, that may be what I need at this point.
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March 22, 2017
You have been through such a terrible time! My surgeon mentioned the fact that scar revision without something to hold the tissue out while healing would just result in more adhesions. That's why I chose the fat grafting to hold the shape as healing happened, rather than another implant which he offered up as well. It could possibly help you as well with the folds and scarring but you do have way more internal issues with the sternum, etc. I would consult a few docs that specialize in cancer breast reconstruction and they usually are trained in fat grafting as well.
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March 22, 2017
Yeah, I've been thinking about Dr. Michael Cohen, in Baltimore. He's somewhat close to where I live. The pictures of some of his work are promising, because he's done lots of symmastia revisions for women with similar tears from implants. He also does fat grafting for cancer (or other) reconstruction, that involves micro-surgery. That's a specialized skill that's pretty exclusive. However, I'm not sure if he's done it with lipo like Dr. Love did for you. But I understand he's open to learning new techniques from other doctors. I've never flown out of my immediate vicinity to do surgery, & I'm not exactly looking forward to the added stress, while in recovery. Especially with airport security the way it is these days. But obviously, I need someone with way more skill than the local PCs around here.
UPDATED FROM shariecat
3 days post

The First Unveiling

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Well, today I unveiled my wrap for the first time (desperately in need of a shower). The dressing tape had created some bloody wounds of their own. My skin is hyper sensitive to bandage tape, & the stuff he used to secure the gauze was thick, & stuck on hard. There was also a lot of break through bleeding at the incision site, & the gauze had hardened, & stuck on that. Then came the ordeal of unraveling, & re-wrapping the ace bandage. What fun this will be, to wrestle with this thing for three weeks. But there's no other way through this process, than just through it. My selfie pictures oddly, don't seem to capture exactly how dramatically flatter I am. Perhaps since my arms can only stretch back so far. But they are definitely only A cups, & quite shriveled, & worse off (as expected, really) from the implant misadventures. But it still feels tremendously good to lay in bed without baseballs sticking up off my chest, & to be able to get up without that horrible implant drag, tugging across my chest. My doctor also released a dent in the right, cleavage curve, which feels & looks better. It may be too subtle for anyone else to notice but me, but every improvement helps.
I'm dreading facing the neighbors though (I live in a building with nearly 500 people), & the grocery store clerks, where all these people know me..... but not really. This is quite a change, & it's going to take some serious mental adjustment, for me, & everyone who regularly sees me. But somehow, I have to gather the courage to overcome my weak ego, because my poor little boobs just can't haul those plastic, trash bags around anymore. Luckily, I usually wear long sleeved, cotton over shirts, & hats to shroud from the sun. I'm determined not to get wrecked by tanning, loose ALL semblance of beauty, & then become victimized again, by facial plastic surgery! The boob job ordeal has been disaster enough for me, thank you.

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July 20, 2015
Thank you for posting and keeping us updated. At first your breast will appear pretty flat and very soft but it will change, give it a month.. At least that was the case for myself. Yes, it is a mental adjustment at first but in time you will feel better! It takes time, as you know.
Try and stay positive. I totally understand what your feeling. Xo
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July 20, 2015
Thanks. I'm just trying to keep focused on how good the coming back together feels, & how what I got rid of, continuously felt so awful.