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Been Waiting over Half my Life - Septorhinoplasty

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Oct. 7, 2012 - It's been almost two months since...

MzA23
WORTH IT$9,000

Oct. 7, 2012 -
It's been almost two months since I scheduled a consultation with Dr. Richard J. Warren in Vancouver, BC for a rhinoplasty. His waitlists are apparently 1 year+ just to get a consultation because he's the best in Vancouver - possibly even Canada. Or so I've heard from online reviews. He doesn't advertise, he relies solely on promotion via word of mouth. A bit about why I'm choosing to go ahead with this:

I'm 22 years old (will probably be 23 by the time the surgery happens) and nearly completed my university degree. I've recently come into some inheritance money, so I can afford the surgery. I'm mature enough to know that this is what I want, and have undergone years of teasing to confirm this. I've told myself that I won't become addicted to plastic surgery and get many subsequent surgeries to correct any and all imperfections. I can get a push up bra to correct sagging boobs, I can wear lipsticks to plump up my lips, I can work out and eat right to prevent having to get liposuction. But I can't cover or self-correct my nose.

My boyfriend of 4 years loves me the way I am and will probably be very angry when he finds out that I went ahead and scheduled this consultation. I'm terrified to tell him. Once, I made a joke to him saying that I'm getting to get liposuction. He told me that if I were being serious, that would be a really stupid decision. I think we can all agree that a rhinoplasty is even more serious than lipo. I'm not sure how to make him see that I'm doing this for me. Not to silence my critics, not to become a cardboard cutout of a Hollywood starlet, but for ME so that I can finally look in the mirror and like myself from all angles. Some people might wonder why I'm bothering to do this since I already have a very serious relationship and have no need to impress other men. If you're doing something strictly to appeal to the opposite [or same] sex then you're in it for the wrong reasons. You need to do what you can to make yourself feel beautiful and hopefully confidence will come with that beauty.

I was teased and bullied throughout school and still, to this day, I get comments on my nose at times. Part of it is probably that I'm half Italian. Every one in my family has a large nose. Whenever people try to guess my ethnicity, they can always see the Italian in me. If they don't guess it right away, I will tell them what I am and they'll say "oh, yeah, I can see that." As much as I'd like to think it's because Italian women are often considered as being exotic and beautiful, my insecurities keep telling me it's because I have a large nose.

I need this surgery to gain confidence and to be able to face the mirror without cringing. I will be looking for a full time job when I graduate within a year, so this is the perfect time for me to make this transition. I will hopefully have my surgery after I graduate and before my new job begins.

I'm tired of facing people straight-on when I talk to them, even if they're sitting beside me. I'm tired of asking my friends to delete photos that they post of me because I hate how my nose looks. I'm tired of being scared whenever someone brings out a camera and having to decide which way to turn my face so that I can minimize how large my nose is.

If anyone could share any advice, reviews about Dr. Richard Warren, or just offer general support it would be much appreciated!

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October 8, 2012
You sound very level-headed and articulate. I'm sure your boyfriend will eventually accept your choice, and understand that as you said, changing the shape of your nose is not something you can do on your own. I understand exactly how you feel when you say you feel nervous when someone pulls out a camera, or how you want to face people head-on. I am forever trying to cover my nostrils! You are very pretty right now, and I think after your surgery you'll look amazing! Best to find the right doctor, even if it means waiting. Good luck to you!
October 9, 2012
Thank you so much for the kind words and compliments :) I hope that he sees it the way we do and realize that this is going to make me happier and in the long run that can only benefit him as well!
October 9, 2012
I'm so excited for you. People might knock you for it saying that you should "accept the way God made you" but honestly, its the best investment I made for myself! Goodluck!!
October 9, 2012
I completely agree, if we were all meant to look exactly how we looked when we were born, God wouldn't have invented plastic surgeons - or even simple things like tweezers or make up for that matter :P So happy to hear that your surgery went well for you!
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October 9, 2012

Thank you so much for starting your story on RealSelf! I hope your boyfriend comes around and realizes that this doesn't have much to do with him and won't affect your feelings for him. Hang in there and please let us know how your consultation goes. Will you be seeking consultations with other doctors as well?

October 9, 2012
Hi Angie I will definitely be keeping you all updated. I've done alot of research on other plastic surgeons in Vancouver and none of them have reviews even remotely near as good as Dr. Warren. I think that for this reason, if I have another consultation, it would have to be with a doctor in Seattle. Seattle is about a 3.5 hour drive from where I live so it won't be easy making that commute, but it would be worth it if I could find an excellent surgeon there as well. Any suggestions?
October 11, 2012
I can relate to a lot of the things you are saying. I am pretty much in the same boat as you age wise and graduation wise... I think it`s the perfect time. Soon our lives will be a lot more serious so taking a break to fix this insecurity might not be possible. You are beautiful already so i`m sure you will look amazing, all the best of luck xo
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October 11, 2012
Hey, just curious, how long have you been waiting to see Dr. Warren.? I called his office over a year ago , I was informed it would be a year before i could book an appointment. Long story short they did call me back a year later, but I already booked with someone in Toronto. I have only heard amazing things about Warren so it's gonna be pretty exciting to see your results!!
October 13, 2012
Hi, I have been waiting for about 2 months so far. I booked my consultation back in August and they replied saying that the wait list is approximately a year and they will let me know when an appointment slot becomes available. Glad to hear that youve also heard positive reviews about him! Were they from friends and family or just general online reviews
UPDATED FROM MzA23
1 year pre

I'm thinking of also booking a consultation with...

MzA23
I'm thinking of also booking a consultation with Dr. Andrew Denton here in Vancouver. A girl I talked to recently about her nose job recommended him. I'm a little worried because his rating on RateMDs is 3.9/5, whereas Dr. Warren is 4.8/5. I guess it would be good to have a second opinion though, and I'm getting impatient with Dr. Warrren's one year wait list. What do you all think?

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October 31, 2012
Well, you have a tough decision to make... and for anyone reading this, please don't take my opinion personally. For myself, I chose my surgeon based on before/after pictures, because I wanted to see what challenges and successes the surgeon had experienced. And I wanted a surgeon who had worked on my type of nose and produced results based on what I hoped for. I find it really odd that Dr. Warren doesn't have any on his website. Between that, and the year-long wait, I would never choose him. I don't find it customer-friendly, and I would not like to 'feel like a number' in his extremely long line of patients. He may be an amazing surgeon, but Canada is a big country with many talented, educated people. I am sure there are other surgeons who are just as good as Dr. Warren.
October 31, 2012
By the way, many people have online/email consultations with doctors in other cities. I don't know how you feel about that. It might be a good way to get doctors opinions without having to travel too far.
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October 31, 2012
It is really good you are considering on doing this for yourself. If its possible to fix something so you are less insecure, more confident with everyday things like mirrors and cameras then that is money well spent. If you explain your history of teasing and how you feel about it Im sure your bf would understand. When I first told my bf he thought it was silly and there was no reason I should do it but after awhile he realized it was more about what I saw in the mirror and started to understand how badly I felt about it. now that he understands how important it is he has been super understanding. Its good you are going on reputation, I definitely recommend going to at least two different surgeon consults and go on your gut feeling :)
October 31, 2012
Hey, thank you for the reassurance! How did you first bring it up to your bf? How did he react at first and how long did it take him to realize this is what you want and he should your decision? I'm wondering if I should tell mine before or after I've had my first consultation
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October 31, 2012
It took a couple of months for him to accept it then a couple more to really understand where I was coming from. I said "how would you feel if I were to get a nose job" and he said "it would be silly cause you don't need it." And I said "but what would you do?" and he said "nothing cause I love you no matter what but its stupid you don't need it etc." I kind of didn't talk about it too much but every so often brought up how much I wanted it so he got more used to the idea. Then there were moments when he saw how upset I was and then I think thats when he actually understood that it was something I was hurting about not being vain and now he is very supportive. He is really worried something will go wrong but by explaining everything makes him less scared for e.g how qualified my surgeon is. My Parents were really against it and I found the best way was to bring it up in small doses being completely mature about it and be assertive saying you have been wanting this for awhile and its not something you are taking lightly. I had to deal with my parents being so upset and angry, like huuuge arguments but I tried to never get defensive and know they are just scared for me and their role is to be protective etc so I would also be open about everything, saying things like I have a consultation and would they like to come. I knew they would say no but felt being open and welcoming about it would be better and it has. They have finally accepted it is going to happen. I took awhile in between consults and my surgery is still 3 months away and I think in a way it is good as I am really getting my head around what is to happen and same with my parents. It sucks waiting because I want it so bad but it has just turned out that way (my surgeon is pretty busy too). My advice is to be assertive, confident in your decision and don't get to upset if your bf gets angry. Its how people deal with shock or something they disagree with and feel they have no control over. Be patient and I am sure he will come around :)
October 31, 2012
Oops, meant to also say, that if you do choose Dr. Warren in the end because you believe he's the best doctor for you, then maybe waiting 1 year is worth it. You want to be as sure as you can that 5, 10, 20, or 30 years from now, you made the best choice for you! Best wishes!
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November 1, 2012
I had a consultation with Dr.Denton and my surgery is 1 week away!! He is very professional and kind man .... I recommend him just from meeting him and reading his reviews. I will update how my surgery goes and everything next week.
November 16, 2012
excellent, let me know how your surgery went!
UPDATED FROM MzA23
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Just had my consultation with Dr. J. A. Barlett in...

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Just had my consultation with Dr. J. A. Barlett in Richmond yesterday. I got a really nice first impression from him. He didn't rush me at all and didn't try to sell me on anything I was uncomfortable with. He actually thought I had a "nice nose" and it didn't need as much work done on it as I thought.
I told him that I wanted it deprojected (brought in closer to my face) and the bulbous cartilage on the tip to be narrowed. He agreed about the tip needing to be narrowed, but said that it doesn't project as far out from my face and I think it does, and it had a nice obtuse angle. That made should have made me feel better but it also kind of made me feel crazy. Like, maybe there wasn't anything wrong with my nose this whole time. But that can't be, because I've had an issue with it since I was a child and the fact that so many people who don't even know each other have said mean things about it reaffirms that yes, it's larger than a normal person's.
He said that if I deproject my nose I will also have to shave off a tiny bump that I have at the top of the bridge of my nose. I guess this will prevent it from looking "hooked" when I deproject it. So basically, if I do all 3 of these things it will cost me $9000 + tax. And he said that I might benefit in the future from bringing my nostrils in closer because they should align with the corners of my eyes, and mine go out slightly more. If I add this to my procedure, it will bring the total to 10,500 + tax.
A lot to think about. I could either go the cheaper route and do what he thinks is the only necessary change - removing cartilage from the tip to make it less bulbous and wide. Or I could splurge and get the whole thing done. I'm less concerned about the money factor with going with the 3-in-1 deal than I am about the greater chances of something look wrong if I get that much done to it. But then again, I don't want to just get the one procedure done, the narrowing of the tip, and then realize after that the change wasn't great enough and go through this all over again. Not sure which I'm going to choose. Still on the waitlist for my consultation with Dr. Warren and still haven't told my parents yet. Maybe my mom can help me out with this.

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November 22, 2012
Your story reminds me of when I first went for a consultation (30 years ago). I went to discuss a nose job, and the surgeon told me what I really needed was reconstructive jaw surgery. Maybe I needed both... I don't know! But it confused me. I'm sure your mom will have thoughts to help you out.
November 22, 2012
To help me out this time (because I don't have Photoshop), I took pics of my face, enlarged them, and printed them on 8 1/2 x 11 paper. I used tracing paper to redraw my face. Then I made subtle changes to the nose on my drawing. I did it with a front-view and a profile picture. It helped clarify for me in my mind what I should change. (I had to outline the printed pics with marker to be able to see them through the tracing paper, but another option would be to tape the printed pics to a window cause the light shining through makes it easy to trace.) Anyway, long story short (I know, too late - lol), I recently read that in the old days - before computer imaging, that was a common practice amongst rhinoplasty surgeons! Alternatively, you could just keep it simple, and ask your mom! :-D
November 22, 2012
Wow that's pretty creative! Very impressive. Apparently the surgeon I'm on the waitlist for, Dr. Warren, prefers to do things the old fashioned way and draws on a photo of you rather than using computer imaging software. He's the best at what he does so I guess he's doing something right. Working up the courage right now to tell my mom. Not that I need her approval, I'm in my 20s, but I don't want to disappoint her