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Getting Fat Transfer to Breasts - after implant removal

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After having implants removed on November the 22nd...

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Lia71
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After having implants removed on November the 22nd 2012, I am going to get fat grafting done to it.
I choose to do so, because I have to go back to surgery, because my muscles do now a very weird shape to my breasts.
The only way to fix that is to cut my muscles apart, so the lower part doesn't lift the upper part up when I move, and there for I need full anesthetic, so I thought I might as well use that, as I did not have full anesthetic done when the implants were removed.
The surgery is on thursday the 10th January 2012

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January 9, 2013
Who is doctor? I'm looking for a doctor who will do fat tranfer to breasrts in Vancouver, but I could find anyone.
January 9, 2013
Sorry, I meant who is your doctor? I could not find anyone who do fat tranfer to breasts in Vancouver.
January 10, 2013
sorry, didn't check the spelling.
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January 11, 2013
Kein Problem Sosi.... to answer your question, I only wrote in my review B.C. they added Vancouver, not me. I live in the Okanagen. Hope that helps.
January 15, 2013
Thank you for the information Lia71! I've seen a doctor in Seattle, but he charges over $10000 to do it. I 'll try to see your doctor, and it is not too bad for me to drive about two hours to Okanagen. Look forward to your updated!
January 15, 2013
Hi Soie S. Do you mind sharing which doctor you see in Seattle? I live in Portland and there don't seem to be any docs that do it here; thus, I was looking at one in the Seattle area... Any thoughts?
January 16, 2013
EnhanceNaturally, his name is Scott Sattler, MD,FACS. He is good and patience. I talked to him about an hour at my consultation.
January 24, 2013
Scot Sattler's price is about $10k for liposuction and fat transplant into the breasts? That is a little steep since I've seen the procedure offered at $5k at offices within a few hour drive. At $10k how many liposuction sites was he going to use? I've heard he's good. If it weren't for higher cost, would you use him as your doctor? Does he do the Brava system? Thanks for all of your help. I'm a small frame, actually trying to gain 10 pounds and looking for a doctor who can work with what I've got! Would you mind sharing you body stats if you think them may be similar?
January 24, 2013
Yes EnhanceNaturally, Dr. Scot is uaing the Brava system, but I don't think I need that because I have loose skin after my implant was removed a year ago. The price is not a big concern for me, my frist concern is what will be used for liposuction. He uses Power-lipo that only 50-60% fat may survive, but I' m looking for Body Jet lipo that keep above 70% fat may survive. Also, Stem cell add with fat cell keep more fat to survive is common in Asia, but it is difficult to find a doctor who has this kind of machine to separate the Stem cell and fat cell in our area.
January 25, 2013
Hi SOS2013, thanks for replying! That's exactly what I've also been looking for, the stem cell process. I first heard about it through Dr. Heinrich, in Vienna, who's been performing these procedures for many years. He's got some very promising information on the internet if you research him. I too have seen that they practice this type of procedure in parts of Asia. Through your research, do you happen to know which, if any U.S. doctors, perform this? Do you mind if ask why you had your implants removed?
January 25, 2013
I found DarryI J. Blinski, MD in Miami who would do this type of procedure, but he is too far away for me. I can drive 3 hours to Seattle, but I'm not able to fly to Miami many times. I think most people who choose to remove implants because of the feeling. They look good, but when touch them will know they're not real. I dislike many doctors who suggest implants because they don't care about feeling, and they don't know how embarrassed if people who touch your breast will know they are implants not real breasts.
January 27, 2013
Hi EnhanceNaturally, Have you found any doctor yet? Gald to know that we are looking for someone who do stem cell add with fat cell, but still some doctors say good, some say bad, they said that it may destroy the fat cells because the machine is too rough. So confused!
January 27, 2013
Oh that's interesting. I hadn't heard about the machine being too rough. It gets so confusing. I think my ultimate criteria is some sort of stem cell therapy and then review the doctor's before and after. I guess the "proof is in the pudding". Let's keep sharing results and research though! Did you have time to check out that doc's website in Vienna? Dr. Heinrich
January 27, 2013
Hi, I just met with my ps that will be doing my fat transfer on March 8th. He told me that they are just studying the stem cells being removed from the fat and purified and then reinjected into the fat. He said that all fat has stem cells in it. The study that is going on is just to see if adding more stem cells makes a difference in how much fat your breasts will retain.
January 27, 2013
I will be a part of the study using the Brava system and the AFT transfer to the breasts.
January 28, 2013
Hi EnhanceNaturally, Please go http://www.leifrogersmd.com/main/2013/01/25/growing-your-own-fat-cells/ And must view the video that at the below. Let me know what do you think about this doctor who used to use this machine but said rough for the fat cells . Thx
January 28, 2013
Hi Beagle Baby, Is "AFT" means "Autologous Fat Transfer"? Would you mind telling me that who is your doctor? Will he/she adds more stem cells on your breasts? If yet, how do they know if more fat survive because of Brave syetem or Adding more stem cell? What kind of lipo will you going to do? Sorry for so many questions want to know!
February 8, 2013
Hi SOS2013, I checked out the website and it looks very interesting. The ability to grow breast tissue outside of the body. I wonder if Dr. Leif is doing regular breast ATF procedures now and utilizing stem cells. I'd be a little hesitant to have an acrylic chamber implanted, but can definitely see the benefit of this if reconstructive surgery is the plan. Have you contacted him yet; at the bottom is states to contact if you're interested in non-implant breast augmentation...
February 8, 2013
Hi BeagleBaby1, That's great news; you're going to be part of the "stem cell" AFT study? What doctor are you seeing?
February 9, 2013
Hi EnhanceNaturally, I may have PRP ATF be done by Gregory Park, M.D on March. Will update my procedures @Realself later. Good luck on your acrylic chamber implants!
February 9, 2013
Hi SOS2013, That's great news that there's someone three hours away from me (and I think you), doing PRP ATF procedures! How did you find him? I have a feeling you and I are in the same locale... No chamber implants for me, but it was an interesting article! When will you start the BRAVA system? Do you mind sharing your height and weight? I'm curious what Dr. Park is able to work with. I'm trying to put on a little more weight before consulting with a doc. I'm so excited for you!
February 9, 2013
Hi EnhanceNaturally, Check my reply at the top, Also, go http://blog.plasticsurgeryinflorida.com/2011/05/live-from-boston-fat-grafting.html Some good information about ATF want to share with you.
February 9, 2013
EnchanceNaturally, mine is Dr Louton. Last night was night 6 with the domes on for 15 hours.
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November 13, 2025
Interesting!
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I had the reconstruction of my breast muscles, on...

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I had the reconstruction of my breast muscles, on both sides, done yesterday, the surgery was almost 3 hours, but that included the fat transfer from my upper legs to my breasts. All together there are about 10 small cuts where the fat was harvest from, and that is where the most pain also comes from.

My breasts are swollen and have a funny colour, my legs are covered in dark purple.

I am in a lot of pain, and have to take meds, where I didn't have to take any after my BA removal, over all it looks good, but big after being so small again. But they will get smaller , its the swelling right now.


I will try and post pictures tomorrow.

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January 13, 2013
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January 13, 2013
Sorry for the double post! Lia71, thanks for sharing! I've been looking for a good doctor to do breast fat transfer and I'm willing to travel. A few questions: Who is your doctor? Are both of the photos you posted post implant removal and pre fat transfer? Do you know what method your doctor used for harvesting (liposuction) the fat? Thanks and speedy healing to you!
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January 13, 2013
Hi, Yes both of those pictures are 6 weeks after my explant, I had 425cc under the muscle. I am very pleased with Dr. Stan Valnicek, he is an awesome surgeon, he had also lipo done on my chin, and my tummy, a couple years ago, very good work. I do not know what the method he used, but I will ask him as I have an follow up on tuesday. But when we talked about it, he expained it to me that it is different then the one used to just lipo, because otherwise the fat cells would be dead while removing. I will let you know....and thank you
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January 16, 2013
Hi, so Dr. Stanley Valnicek is using the "autologous fat graft breast augment" hope that helps....good luck to you
January 27, 2013
Hi Lia71, I tried to contact Dr. Stanley Valnicek, but still haven't heard from him yet. Do you know if he would ues Bady Jet lipo? Is "autologous fat graft" means 'autologous fat stem cells( stem cells add with stem cells)? Many thanks!
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January 27, 2013
Hi, I am not sure about that, I would have to ask him, I do have an appointment to see him on friday, but I am not sure yet because I might have to work, if not i will ask him and let you know.
January 27, 2013
Thousand thanks Lia71!
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Today is sunday, day 3 after the fat transfer, I...

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Today is sunday, day 3 after the fat transfer, I don't take any pain meds since yesterday, only the antibiotics.
I was able to shower full today, which is nice after "cat washing" for the past 2 days.
The donar sides are still hurting a lot, which is mostly my inner thighs, but also around it. That makes walking painful.

I am very pelase with the way it turned out, its much better then its int he pictures, but here they are.

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January 14, 2013

Lia71 thanks for posting...women everywhere are learning about this procedure and wanting to know more about it...really appreciate you sharing! My concerns are long term in the injection site (breasts) you or anyone else might have issues when you get your future mammograms. I had my implants removed 1 year ago after having them in for 17 years. No they did not last that long, I should have had them removed after 10 to 12 years and didn't realize it. One of them had deflated completely slowly over time (I heard that is not common) because it happened so slow I didn't really notice. The other one had gotten bacteria in it and was black saline inside when they removed it and had developed capsular contraption around it slowly as well that I didn't not notice because I had a lot of natural breast tissue over the scar tissue. It was just starting to turn painful when I had them removed. The Doc had to remove the scar tissue too so that breast is now smaller than the other because he had to remove more than just the implant. Just wanted others to know this so you don't wait past the 10 year mark to have your implants replaced even if you think they are still good. Well anyway the Doc that removed my implants said he would NOT do a fat transfer because it was his beliefs that the new fat introduced could crystallize and become hard in SOME spots because it didn't get accepted by the body and in a mammogram would appear to be a lump or possible breast cancer and would have to be removed for biopsy. He said I may spend a lot of time and money and trauma to my breast chasing hardened fat cells making sure it's not cancer in the future. I have read that some Docs prevent a lot of this (not all) by mixing the new fat cells with the patients own blood before they inject it back into another location so that the blood nourishes the fat cells and gives it a much better chance of survival in their new home. Lia did your Doc do that? Mix the fat in your blood before he re injected it? I am really curious to hear any experience about mammogram results after this fat transfer procedure was done....please post your experience if you have one! and Lia your breasts look great! again thanks for sharing! Dee

February 16, 2013
Hi DD..what did you ever decide to do after your explant? Your p.s. is giving you inaccurate info. I have a friend who had a fat transfer to the breasts 2 years ago. They had her see an experienced radiologist before and 3 months after to establish a baseline. There were cysts/calcifications in the mammogram that she can not see or feel but they were easily distinguished from cancer. The mammography is so advanced now that this can be easily distinguished which is why the American Board of Plastic Surgery approved fat transfers to the breast in 2011. Most plastic surgeons are cautiously waiting for more long term research. I am planning this procedure in March with a surgeon that did another friends 6 months ago. She looks awesome!! As a precaution, I called my mammographer who went to Harvard and told me she would be able to distinguish any dead fat(cysts) from cancer so I feel fine about this. You may notice that several plastic surgeons do not agree in their opinions so it is always good to do further research instead of trusting one opinion. I know I had been to several p.s. about a procedure for my eyes and was given 3 different opinions about what to do. Best of luck to you!
February 18, 2013
CMONTGOMERY 103 Well I never made any decision yet because to my surprise my breasts actually look great after removing my implants with out doing anything else. I always worried they would look like empty tube socks after removing my implants but most of my breast was my own fat. I was skinny and tiny when I first got implants at the age of 28 and went from a B to a full C. Then after having kids, and getting older my breasts grew to a Double D. Over the 17 years I had my implants the implants slowly decreased in size and my own natural tissue grew so that by the time i had them removed I went from a DD to a D cup naturally. My only complaint is that my left breast is now slightly smaller than the right because the Doc had to remove scar tissue too, on that one only. I'm 47 now and don't care as much about having perfect breasts so I may never do anything else. I'm glad to hear what your Mammographer had to say ( be able to distinguish any dead fat(cysts) from cancer) That is encouraging! I should call my mammographer too and get their opinion as well as I think more about what I may or may not do in the future to even out my breasts. Trust me I was never taking just one opinion into account lol I will need to hear 100's of opinions before I make any more PS decisions about my own body. I guess I am more in the category of (Most plastic surgeons are cautiously waiting for more long term research.) due to the fact that when I got my implants ALL Plastic Surgeons said they would last a life time...long term proved them all wrong.
February 19, 2013
Yes, I agree. Sounds like you got lucky! Good plan!
January 23, 2013
Hi lia. Had my fat transfer to breast done this morning. Back home now, fat was taken from mostly my lower back and I am in so much pain with it, so much bruising and burning sensation , breasts r ok, not much pain there, did u find it very painful, I'm really worried
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January 24, 2013
Mandy, at first congratulations to our freedom of those implants, you made a great step. Regarding your question, yes it is very painful, especially the donar sides. I am almost 2 weeks now, but I still have trouble to sit down or bend, my legs feel still very sore. Some bruising went down towards my knees but it looks aweful agly, and the bottom part of my breast are dark pruple. But the swelling went down a little, and I love the way they are now. So take your meds, I am usually a person that doesn't, I idn't take any after my removal, but after the fat grafting...Oh boy!!! Ye it is burning, and its normal I asked at my checkup. And after a few days you will starting to have the feeling like small stiches of a needle in your breasts, not much but once in a while, thats normal too. Don't sleep on your tummy, the fat transfered is sensative...and the breasts also will lift up, becauese there is no implant anymore, I find with mine now, they are filled more at the top, as the implants were heavy and mostly at the bottom of y breasts, don't know if I explained it well.
January 24, 2013
Yes I kno exactly what u mean , mine were the same, feeing a little better today , just still a bit dizzy from anaesthetic , thank you so much for your advice, love my soft boobs
January 24, 2013
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January 24, 2013
I am sorry about your anger, but thats my life and my experience, and i was willing to share it, so for whatever reason you have had to choose me to let your anger out I don't get, but I find it very hurtful! I have the right to make my own choices in life, and if they don't let you post something then write them an email, and don't go around and hurt other people that do not deserve it!
January 24, 2013
Hi Lia71, Please don't let a negative lurker/internet troll stop you from sharing your story. You're experience is very helpful for many individuals making decisions about this topic. I, along with most of these readers find our information from many sources, as all should. It sounds like this person has a gripe with a doctor and should educate themselves about where they're posting! Stay strong on your recovery;-)
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January 24, 2013
Thank you very much, it was so nice of you to write that, it made me feel better, I almost had to cry after what this person wrote, hank you for you calming words, I thought it was important to share, then I couldn't find very much. Thanks again for your encouragement!
January 24, 2013
NO you guys don't understand! I am not talking to YOU Lia 71 I originally posted a very nice comment to YOU and asked a few questions and then told you all what my Dr. (a certified plastic surgeon) had warned me about this procedure and said it's the reason not very many certified plastic surgeons perform this procedure. His warning were about the fat transfer causing crystallized cells that appear as breast cancer in mammography. I was asking you guys in my original post if your Doctors warned you against that too or if anyone has had issues with that, who have had the fat transfer procedure. I also said in my original post that your breasts look amazing...I am wanting to do this procedure myself but want to research it more before I make that move. For what ever reason my original post never got POSTED. So I looked around this site and started thinking it was being monitored by a Doctor or several Doctors who were promoting fat transfer and did not want everyone else to see my warning about the breast cancer. I thought the monitor blocked that message from the site ...(I'm still thinking this is what happened to my original post) ...I didn't think my second post would even get approved and make it to the monitor of the site. My anger was at the monitor or the Doc who censored my first post. I thought they were keeping me or anyone from putting out the warning and possible risks of this procedure. NOT YOU!!!!!! Sorry you got your feelings hurt by I am the sweetest person you will ever meet....please know I was not criticizing you or what you had done AT ALL!!!!! I was speaking about the Monitor or Doc who censored the risks of the procedure from becoming public knowledge. It angered me that a Doctor would be so dishonest to with hold information about the possible risks of this procedure so that people would go ahead with it for his financial gain. To me that is unconscionable! I was trying to protect people from what I thought was a cover up by the medical profession who did not care about people safety but only their own success. Just like Docs who prescribe dangerous medication drugs knowing the health risks but not sharing that information or downplaying it to their patients because the Doc is getting a kick back from the drug company. I'm you YOUR side! Trying to help the innocent from Creepy Docs! Thats all!
January 24, 2013
oh had a few type O's I meant to say ( I didn't think my second post would even get approved and make it PAST the monitor of this site.) and by THE WAY I am the sweetest person you will ever meet) and (I'm ON YOUR side!) if you look at the post that upset you , you will see I called them a QUACK , that is what you call a bad doctor....why would I call you a Quack? and I said you are playing with people's lives for profit....another clue I was not talking to YOU...but a Doc because you aren't making a profit off this procedure. I'm just trying to educate people and also find the answers for myself about possible risks....was just angry that the monitor was hurting ALL OF YOU reading this posts by censoring possible risks. Promise!!!! Love and HUGS!!!! sorry you misunderstood the meaning of my second post to the monitor and never got to see my original one to you. dd
January 24, 2013
Hi dd in Texas, I had my fat transfer in the uk and my surgeon did tell me that I could possibly get cysts from the fat that does not survive which could be mistaken for cancer on a mammogram but is not cancer and it does not cause cancer and r not dangerous to my health, and that they r not noticeable to the eye
January 24, 2013
Yes that is what my Doc said too but he also said that you can't tell from the mammogram if it is a cyst just from the fat transfer or a real breast cancer and each one would have to be surgically removed and tested to make SURE it's not cancer. So he said that is why he and most Certified Plastic surgeons don't perform this procedure because for years you could be chasing those cycts and have to have multiple surgeries to remove them...other wise if you just guess that it's a benign cycts...you could be wrong and really have breast cancer. There is no way to tell from the mamogram if it is benign or cancer so each one will have to be removed. This is the only reason I am not jumping into this procedure with both feet...I want to learn more before I do it.
January 24, 2013
oh and Mandy one more thing my Doc said was that there is no way to know yet if those cysts will turn into cancer long term because the procedure is still too new to know long term results. He said it is very possible that one of those benign cysts could turn in breast cancer if left long for a long time....there is just no way to say for sure at this early stage.
January 24, 2013
He said you should not have any plastic or cosmetic surgery performed by someone who is not a BOARD CERTIFIED PLASTIC SURGEON. any one else just does not have the training, experience, education, and know how to perform any procedure that could affect our health and lives. So I am hoping that all you girls who decide to have this procedure will make sure your Doc is a "Board Certified Plastic Surgeon.
January 24, 2013
I feel like I,m in safe hands with my surgeon he also works with cancer patients and does fat transfer and reconstructive surgery on breasts, so I can't see why he would inject fat that could turn into cancer into someone that has fought cancer off or has mastectomy because of cancer ,
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January 25, 2013
DD, what do you think we went, to get our surgeries done? Of course we went to a BOARD CERTIFIED PLASTIC SURGEON! I can seethat, compared to you, we made our homework first, we didn't go to the the surgical centre and got a shock because we didn't know, as you did....you were surprised about all the things he told you, and shocked, which could easely be avoided if you would spend a few hours reading in the net...but maybe your just a little to yound yet. The one I used also does accident and trauma surgeries at our hospital, and does breast fat transfer for woman that lost there breasts because of cancer. And regarding you being concerned about our health, I think we do lots of things that cause more damage then that may, or may not cause! Like smoking or drinking alkohol. Well anyways, thanks for letting us know you didn't mean me or us.
January 28, 2013
When did I ever say i was shocked at what my Doc said? He said exactly what I expected him to ...I just wanted to hear him say it because it was what I already thought. Common sense told me what the risks could be with out finding anything on it on the WEB, my Doc just confirmed my suspicions. Since there is not much info if ANY on the RISKS for fat transfer on the WEB I just wanted to share that with people who were unaware of those risks. I'm glad YOU went to a Board Certified Plastic Surgeon NOT ALL DO ~ In fact there are more Docs on this site that ARE NOT Board certified advertising this procedure than are~ so that advice is to young women who may not be aware of that fact when they come to this site to research...since that is what this site is about....sharing information to empower each other with knowledge. Sorry you can't see that! Good luck and God bless!
January 24, 2013
Thanks for posting your experience. I had implants removed several years ago and am considering fat grafting so I am very, very grateful to those who share their experience, as well as photos and information about doctors. If you are still in pain, rub the areas with Badger's Muscle Rub. It has cayenne in it and the cayenne (capsaicin) will reduce the substance (called substance P) that is involved in nerve transmission. It will greatly reduce your pain. (If I have fat grafting, I will use it a couple times daily for a month of two before the procedure to reduce the pain following surgery). I used Badger's Muscle Rub since it does not have any dangerous chemicals to put on the breast area (discovered it when I had Shingles running acrossed my back and over my breast). I hope you heal well, have no problems, and are very happy with your results. God bless!
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January 25, 2013
Hey thank you very much, I had a smile on my face reading your tip. I wrote it down and will try to get it tomorrow. Ye I heal well, and I love the results, as my breast have now a nice shape, at the beginning they were a little shaped like "eggs" lol. Thanks again, and good luck to you. Do you have a PPS you will see or are you still deciding? Keep us posted :)
January 25, 2013
Hi Lia71, I am scheduled to have fat transfer to the breasts done on March 8th. I had my implants out 6 months ago. I will be doing the Brava system. I just picked everything up at my ps's office the other day. I will be starting a review about using the Brava system and fat transfer soon. The Brava bra is a little like Madonna boobs. I'm gad you only wear them at night. I will post pics so everone can see what the system is. I hope all the fat survives for you. Let us know how you are doing.
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January 27, 2013
Hi, I know what that Brava system is, and I talked to omen that used it and had awesome results. But it also costly :) I think it a good idea to do so. I was looking in the net to buy one used, and there are a few for sale, but mostly in the UK. Anyway, I wish you good luck with it, and would love to continue to hold contact to you, and see pictures. I am very happy for you that you can do that, I think its great. I wasn't able to tell my husband about it, so i wasn't able to use it, but if I would, I know for sure I would have.
February 20, 2013
How are you doing w/the Brava bra? Are you getting good results? I will start using it on the evening of 3/6 after my first consult. I want to use it for 10 weeks prior to my first fat transfer which I plan to schedule for the 3rd week of May given that I feel comfortable w/the doc when I meet her on 3/6.
February 20, 2013
I have started by review on the "fat transfer" and posted some pics.