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Aging Texture Changes Post-IPL.

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I'd like to start posting these here so people can see the process if it worsens or improves. I will fill in the details of the story later. Currently trying different moisturizers and routines. Getting big pores towards the centre of the forehead. Almost time to consider bangs I think, though I don't look good in bangs at all. I got bangs a couple years ago, wore them one day, and then started growing them out.

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October 15, 2014
When did you have the IPL treatment done?
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October 21, 2014
About 4 1/2 months ago now ... I've heard complications can develop for a long time afterward. I will post pictures of how this develops.
October 22, 2014
I just posted a review too. The absolutely worst thing I have ever done is get 3 IPL treatments (2011/2012/2014).
October 23, 2014
Yes please do.  
October 21, 2014
I have heard of this happening from IPL. Doctors say that it does not and can not happen although you only need to take a look at how many cases there are on forums online. There are even dedicated forums now for IPL and Laser Damage with hundreds of cases. It happened to me following radio frequency treatments, including massive facial fat loss. I have spent one year now intensely devoted to trying to find a way to reverse the damage. Very sorry this happened to you. I've had some success eating a raw food diet. Although when I stop eating this way it comes back and its hard to maintain that lifestyle. Would really love to see some doctors getting on board and starting to acknowledge that this happens so we can find a way to undo the damage and get help.
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October 21, 2014
I'm very sorry you had damage that persists. I know what you mean about acknowledgement, since it seems certain to me that it does happen -- or, at the very least, something else about the skin is disrupted that then leads to this outcome over a year or so. I wouldn't have signed the release though if it described any of what I've experienced, so there's that. I know these treatments help a lot of people, so it's such a difficult issue to think through ... Thank you for your comment! I'm being very very careful with my diet and skin right now. I figure this period after is critical for how this is all going to settle :/
October 22, 2014
I wish I could find the magic bullet to reverse my IPL damage. Fat loss in the face and new dents appear every day. And once the volume is gone - the jowls, nasolabial lines etc. become more exaggerated. I tried to get an appointment to discuss this with the derm who did my first IPLs (2011 & 2012) - won't even see me. It's very depressing
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December 11, 2014
Hey kate150256, I'm so sorry to hear you are another victim of this. I think I had fat loss on my forehead, it's so boney in a way I swear it never was before, but I think everywhere else on my face is ok. My derm is speaking to me kind like an anxiety patient, talking about how things 'look' to me, and how many studies have shown that IPL doesn't do this ... at least she's keeping the dialogue open, but with the Internet they do have to be careful of people giving bad reviews, so at least there's that ...
March 6, 2015
A doc also told me that I am focusing on something that is simply not there. I am not a complainer by nature. If it was not there, and there was no significant change, I would not have anything negative to say!
December 10, 2014
Yes, last winter the same thing happened to me on my forehead after the 2nd treatment micro wrinkles and a dot matrix effect with my pores. Pores have slightly shrunk but still lined. My dermatologist said she's seen this before and it would go away and even suggested maybe continuing treatments; the medspa where i had it done denied it was the laser. Well, fast forward a year and not much has changed but I decided to go back because some brown spots reappeared from the sun and I wanted them removed. I decided to not have her do the IPL on my forehead. This time though I ended up with these weird diagonal lines, like giant crows fee, around my swollen eyes that appear every morning when I wake up. They mostly disappear as the swelling goes down. They are clearly forming right where she stopped the treatment on my forehead. I have a picture that I can post later - just wondered if anyone else has experienced this.
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December 11, 2014
Suecap, I'm sorry to hear you experienced a similar thing. Nothing has changed with mine either. I look at other people's foreheads all the time now and don't see anything similar. If I'm really hydrated it doesn't look as bad, but I'm now 6 months and feel very self-conscious about it. I don't have confidence anymore, which is the biggest things. It's like a rain cloud hanging over my head.
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December 11, 2014
That's a really good description of it, "dot matrix". It's like a grid. It I keep my eyebrows relaxed it's not as bad. I've got lots of little lines around my eyes, extending down through the sides of my cheeks .... Overall, texture of skin = worse. I'm just hoping it's not still getting worse ....
December 15, 2014
Same here but worse (see my review). Everyone who has noticed damage, PLEASE make an adverse event report to your government's oversight agency! The agencies do NOT read the internet! They don't even read medical journals to identify trends in injuries. Just think of the uterine cancer and power morcellator fiasco (just one of many!). If we don't make a formal report, medical boards and oversight agencies think this does not happen! The result? No warnings, no efforts to make the IPL machines safer, no efforts to figure out how to fix the problem. In USA, the place to report is: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/HowToReport/ucm053074.htm
March 5, 2015
I guarantee that you will never see a single doctor on this board admit to damage caused by IPL. It will NEVER happen. I still cannot convince my doctor. It is ridiculous! Just wait - in ten years doctors will be saying how damaging IPL was as they are pushing forward another technology. In the meantime, we suffer!.
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May 30, 2015
Actually on my profile, when I asked about damage, one surgeon did. He said his office doesn't use IPL anymore because it causes damage.
May 31, 2015
Wow, good for him. My skin texture is forever changed due to IPL
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May 31, 2015
I thought his honesty was refreshing. From what I understand it's a complication due to a person's particular healing process, doesn't make it any easier to deal with and I still don't think that's the whole story. My skin was damaged too, I posted some pictures. I keep wanting to write my story down but I get very depressed thinking about it so I avoid it.
June 1, 2015
I understand what you mean. I am trying to accept my new "baseline" skin but I am having a really hard time. When I had very gentle IPL I noticed that my pores and texture of my skin was much more refined and pretty actually but when the plastic surgeon gave my the aggressive treatments (I was so vulnerable and trusted him so much), that is when the trouble started. And he Never admitted there was anything wrong. I went to a new derm last week how told me how arrogant this surgeon is and how aggressive he is and also said that "of course IPL can cause damage is too aggressive". It can be different for everyone. Still I am completely saddened and depressed and now I get panic attacks and am trying to sort out my feelings with a therapist. LillyLake, please keep me updated on anything you do to try and help your skin and I will do the same. private message me if you like. I wish you all my very best wishes. wendy
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June 5, 2015
I get panic attacks too and have had therapy. My new derm suggested retinol so I might give that a try on a test patch. It's depressing when you take good care of yourself and then just get 10-15 years of aging all at once. I know I have to move on but I still wish more people would admit to the damage. I hate that people treat me like I'm crazy on top of it. I had one derm say that maybe IPL made the skin around my pores better so then the pores stuck out more... Lol I just responded politely "yes, that makes sense".
UPDATED FROM Still_sorry

One year after IPL - no improvement in texture changes

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It's been a year now, and the texture changes I noticed shortly after IPL have not improved but I have learned to cope with them a bit better, also, at about the 7 or 8 month point it stopped looking worse so I've been getting used to it. I considered bangs for a while and will likely go that route. Primer helps, Cereve Cream helps, but it's still a lined and dotted mess up there. This photo I'm attaching doesn't do it justice, its blurring out both the lines and pores, I'll post another few once I can better capture it. Partially I think it's better in the summer from the humidity (I have Rosacea so skin tends to be dry). I'm wearing a bit of powder in the photo and Cereve cream

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August 19, 2015
I had IPL too, only one time thank god. But it has changed my skin... It's more blotchy and uneven in color. I definately had fat loss but I am used to it now. It's not as bad as it was in the beginning. Never never never again. All my hyperpigmentation came back and then some. The estitician said I need more treatments but I am done. I had amazing skin on my face, I used to get compliments all the time.... Not anymore. Don't give up. I am a Healh coach and found that eating high quality fats and lots of filtered water helps the skin heal. The body is an amazing machine. Try working from the inside out and take care of yourself. I wish you beat of luck
August 21, 2015
Where are comments from the hundred of doctors who are presently and still using I'pl lasers. I have also seen pictures and comments from dozens of people who have used I'pl,s and have success. It's hard to really know if you are aging and this sped up the process. I can't judge thousands of I'pl procedures. By one not so successful ones. Why are no skin care doctors daring to post on this thread. Something is not right here
August 10, 2016
UPDATED FROM Still_sorry

Two more pictures showing IPL damage

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My pictures yesterday didn't capture the damage so here are some new ones. Note how when eyebrows are raised the pores (they look like holes more than pores) connect together

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May 30, 2015
Hi, Have you looked into having a peel to help with the fine lines and to reduce pore size? I just started looking into them so
May 30, 2015
I dont know much but I have seen some great results in the before/after shots that doctors have posted. I think if you started doing a light peel (at home peels may even be enough for you if you are brave) on a regular bases it might help with the things that are bothering you from the IPL. Good luck...thanks for sharing your results.
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May 30, 2015
Hi ty333, I consulted 2 dermatologists and neither recommended a peel as I have Rosacea and its contraindicated. I imagine some peels are safer Rosacea than others but both derms said basically they would advise staying away from peels. And retinol. Thank you for your suggestion, though. I wish there was more I could do.