Botox Went Wrong - Pstosis (Drooping) of the Eyes / Cheeks / Mouth Are Possible Side Effects !!!
I went to the UK's top practice for 3 years...
I went to the UK's top practice for 3 years but when it went wrong i was treated apallingly, no admission of error and left absolutely devastated with no information.i thought it was permanent ?? i had to go on the internet and then get a second practitioners opinion.
pstosis ..(drooping) the side effect no one wants to talk about. can leave you looking horrendous..like you have had a stroke or with zombie eyes (or both, lucky me !).the practitioners who inflict it send women away claming they are hysterical, perfectionists, imagining things etc.despite being shown photo's taken just days before the procedure.
allergan are completely aware of these side effects but claim they are due to bad technique/pre-existing conditions??
however if a product is designed to relax muscles why deny it's effectiveness ?
I SAY SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS.YOU CAN GET SEVERE FACIAL DROOPING FROM BOTOX, EVEN SMALL AMOUNTS. IT CAN TAKE 6-9 MONTHS TO CORRECT ITSELF.CONSIDER THIS BEFORE YOU UNDERGO ANY PROCEDURE.
the boards of people who have been treated with botox for migraine, bell's palsy etc.. are littered with horror stories.
botox is not some friendly harmless substance, as it has been marketed / promoted. it has MASSIVE physical side effects, messes with your adrenaline / nervous system, can migrate to your brain, has been linked with pediatric fatalities and does not have a wealth of clinical research around the use of it on the face as it's being used OFF - LABEL ie. not the purpose for which it was given medical approval. we are being used as guinea pigs, no one knows what the effects of long term use are over time on facial muscles, but botox has been linked to atrophy when used continously in other areas of the body so ???
Thousands of complaints have been registered with the FDA who have issued repeated warnings,hundreds of lawsuits pending on this , .. so called 'temporary' side effects can last up to 9months for some individuals. that is 9 months of pain, frustration , depression and having to endure the stares of strangers / friends who are wondering.. what is up with that woman's face ??
Do your research .. lots of extracts from medical journals out there on the web, i'm not making this stuff up.
Botox is not without risk and you should take the procedure very very seriously. It can go very very wrong.
I am in week 9 of bad pstosis (eyes/cheeks/mouth)...
I am in week 9 of bad pstosis (eyes/cheeks/mouth) from Botox. So I thought of starting a journal to see what does /doesn't help with the recovery based on my own experience.i also had excess hylase injected which i'm sure weakened the skin but wouldn't have caused such a HUGE drop.
a 2nd practioner confirmed it was too much botox, which had migrated into other muscles weakened my entire face.
Currently doing CACI facials (weekly), facial resistance training, sauna/steam 3 times a week for a minimum of 30 mins, eva fraser facial exercises, avocado masks (3 times a week), protein shakes / supplements and am tracking down lecthicin which may help the acetocholin (forgive the spelling) kick in the nerve impulses which botox freezes.
I am a week 9 and last night started using a heat pad direct on my face (moisturise the area first , pad wrapped in clingfilm after heating). i am doing this while i watch tv, for about 45mins in total. today for the first time i can feel the nerves in my face waking up at last !!!! (probably timing??) I am doing this across the whole areas affected and today i am get shooting / tingling impulses across my face .. all the way up to my scalp and beyond ?? some really strong, some very mild .. slight discomfort ...
I read that heat destroys the botox toxin, so maybe heating up the muscles affected can have the same effect??
if you have had success with any method please let me know !! i will do anything to get rid of my meltyface
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18 months later... I am about 70% back to...
I am about 70% back to normal overall. Still waiting for filler to wear off, so i can get my symmetry back to normal. Corrugator muscles still very badly affected / flattened but powering through with CACI, massage and exercises.
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hey Trippy,Sara ... tiny improvements. now how something odd going on with my inf tarsus (inner eye muscle)which has popped up for the first time in 18 months.. so hopefully a good thing ?
Sara it could be that depressing the muscle in one part of your face is causing the elevation in another .. prob exaggerating the effects.
Tiny changes elsewhere but in right direction ??
what about you ??
found a study which proves that botox can last UP TO 2 YEARS in the face!! which is equallly depressing but uplifting ? gives me hope.
The effects of a single treatment of botulinum A toxin lasted from
3 months to 2 years, longer than the expected effect of the toxin
http://www.drbensimon.co.il/articles/botox_ptosis.pdf
but my facialist said my cheek muscles are now normal (you can't tell because of the filler though)
so just mouth and frontalis to go !!
Botox can last up to 2 years.. nice.. To my PS I would say 2 weeks my a**. (when he said this effect will be gone in 2 weeks) I´m now on 3 month mark and about 40% healed. My smile is still lopsided and I don´t smile as widely any more. In the mornings it´s worse. Are the mornings worse for everyone? I suppose it´s because muscles relax during night and it takes some time for them to wake up.
My daughter says that I have a banana smile. Well this is one experience in life, learning to live with banana smile. :/ But I have to say that I don´t think about my smile that much any more.
Happy healing to all!
I have some good news, my under eye areas have really improved...I'm still not totally convinced that my eyes will return to the line free way they were before BUT in the past few months I have seen big improvements. MY right eye has been consistently improving quicker than the left eye so my left has some catching up to do but it is catching up....I am 14 months post botox under the eye (1 unit on the lower lash lines) and my eyes are very close to looking normal again, yahoo!! My under eye area is definitely pulling up and tightening but like I predicted the lines that were created with the collapse are still visible, even though they have tightened....BUT they are lessening day by day so maybe the more they tighten the less they will get? Whatever this is GOOD news and I hope it is good for people reading this that worry they wont recover...I think there's a good chance I will get back to the way I was with a probably a little change in skin texture but hopefully that is all.
I also sent off 130 photographs to my solicitor the other day for my botched filler procedure (they injected five syringes of filler in my face and made me a look like a balloon head).....I was quite emotional looking at the photographs as somehow they looked distinctly worse on photographic paper than on the computer screen! :O Probably because I could compare myself before and after, side by side, the difference left me speechless and angry with myself and the nurse for doing that to me. It is taking SOOOO long for the filler to clear, I am now on month 19 since the first syringe and month 16 since the last and my face has still got alot of that crap in it. I feel positive about my case though after seeing the photographs so I will keep you updated...hopefully I get compensation out of those rats!
I think society is starting to catch on to these cowboys and more solicitors are taking on cases like ours...The solicitor told me that rarely do the cases end up in court...as the clinics settle before it gets there...so here's hoping.
How are you all getting on, have you got any good news to report? Hopefully not bad!!
I think we will all recover from this, but I reckon it takes about two years....I am 14 months on and I probably have another 20% healing to do to get back to base....
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Good to see you post on here!!
Im doing ok, 12 months next month, disappointed as I thought I would be feeling 100%.
Forehead still feels constrained, sinus still pressure. Nose still goes very red. Its as though I cannot control the temperature on my face, its either very cold or very hot.
Really trying to be positive and not worry, as I feeling a lot better than I did when I first posted on this site. So Im hoping eventually I will get better. Fingers crossed.
Sounds like you guys are going in the right direction..
Happy Healing
xxxxxxx
Hi Tripp65..just read your post on face temperature. I've been experiencing that with my cheek ptosis. Im in my 11 month now and things still are not resolved. I found that when my face is warm, I generally look better, as everything is more plumped out. But then for no rhyme or reason...it turns cold and my face will droop and narrow more!? It's as though its controlled by my biorhythms, hormones or some Botox entity!...very weird. I thought it was just me. The problem with explaining all these strange symptoms to the medicos and people in general..is that there are so many strange symptoms that come and go which are associated with this damn poison; that we come off sounding somewhat unstable. I probably have a list of at least 10 side-effects. It would be over a year ago since you posted this article...I'd be interested to know how you are going. I'm hoping its all good news!
Yeah, I know the feeling....I was at 12 months and that was the worst but i've seen miracles in just the last six weeks....I think you will start to see progress soon, it's soooo slow but I think it will get better for you!!
Thank you for sharing your stories. I have been visiting the site regularly and it has been extremely helpful to read your comments and to know that recovery continues to take place after the 6 month mark.
I am 27 weeks post botox for crows feet and have found that my eyes have only just started to improve over the last two weeks. Up until then, the slow restoration of muscle activity only worked to accentuated all the sagging, bagging and bulging that the treatment caused. I still look 10 to 15 years older and have much sagging, bagging and bulging but feel the changes over the last two weeks are finally heading in a positive direction.
However I am still worried about the hernaited fat pad under my left eye and the festooning. Did you have herniated orbital fat pads and if so did they eventually resolve. I find that when I smile as hard as I can, the muscles are starting to pull the fat pad in. However, when my face is relaxed or I smile only slightly, the bulge from the herniated fat pad is obvious and causes those horrible horizontal folds.
Also, several of you have mentioned festooning ie the fluid build up over night. Has that resolved for you over time. Mine is persisting and it is really depressing. I wake up with the big pillows under my eyes, especially the left eye. I had none of this before. Infact my family has sunken eyes, if anything.
I have been trying to stay positive but am finding this an incredibly agonising wait.
Thanks for being a lifeline everyone.
Regrets xx
Hi Regrets, my pad did pull in over time. funny how one side always seems to be worse than the other ? perhaps we have a dominant side to our faces ?
there is a point at which the cosnetic effects wear off and the weakness of the underlying muscle becomes more obvious .. everything looks horrendous then but it's the darkest hour and actually a sign of recovery.
it will get better honey, try some lymphatic drainage massage in the mornings and keep up the facial exercise, particulary your eye area.
me? still about 20% to go but has picked up in the last two months with loads of nerve activity and tension/ thickness under the skin.hopeful of 100%.
keep your chin up dear heart, you will make it through and you are still very much YOU!
Having another one of those bad days today, so your reply is much appreciated and has lifted my spirits.
Some days I feel really positive and just keep telling myself it is getting better. Other days, the thin skin, deep wrinkles, and bulging fat pad are too much to bear and I start to wonder if there is any positive change at all.
My eyes have always been my best feature. They stand out because they are green and an unusual shape. The new black and purple under-rings are horrid and have aged me incredibly. I now find it difficult to look at my eyes in the mirror.
I know this sounds very self indulgent and vain. I am not normally either. But I so regret getting botox.
What I really hope is that in 3 to 6 months I am someone who has a story of recovery that can be used to help others in this situation, as you have helped me today anon.
Much appreciation x Regrets
I only just saw your post. Much appreciated. I am so glad to hear that there should be more improvements, as if this was it - I'd be pretty devastated. I look like a zombi.
What really annoys me is all the plastic surgeons/injectors that keep saying it only last 3 - 4 months. And that any affects after that must have been there before and you didnt notice them.
As if we dont know our own face! Plus the science is that this can take up to 2 years - why dont they know this.
Can I just ask, did you guys worry about doing exercises that it was increasing your wrinkes. The skin under my eyes is so creased and dry looking and I feel all my scrunching etc is making things worse.
Cheers XX
I wonder sometimes if I am thinking things are improving because I am getting used to the look of it? A work collegue who is aware that I had botox and who I hadnt seen for 4 weeks said she thought my eyes had improved, so I hope she is right.
I think what makes this whole thing so much worse is that the cosmetic physicians are not learning anything from it because they live in denial. Therefore, they have no answers and can give you no indication what the prognosis of a bad result is. None of them have followed up on bad results or taken an interest to track and record the recovery. Also, they aren't communicating any of this to each other either so there is no knowledge base developing and it conveniently remains off their radar! As i have mentioned elsewhere in my posts I work in research and I find it extremely frustratiung that they are so uninterested. It is ignorant and negligent.
Thanks for the info re: the exercises.
I am so sorry you are still having so much trouble Ghouleyes. Hugs. I really hope that your recovery continues. I hope we can all our old selves again soon. Regrets [RS bleep]
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