POSTED UNDER Revision Rhinoplasty Reviews
Rhino Revision - The Hospital Group, Dr Araco & Basim Matti - United Kingdom, GB
UPDATED FROM Bubblegum2013
7 years post
2020 update
Bubblegum2013August 25, 2020
$14,000
Hi all sorry for late responses to all ur msgs
Havent been on here in years
Lots of life changes (relationship, work, etc)
Still havent had a 2nd revision
Had filler a few times with Nyla Raja and a Dr in London (dont recall her name)
The fillers didnt last long
Also went to see Dr Yusra and Skin Clinics and Amanda Pierce, they all refused me fillers lol
Consulted last in person with East and Ion and didnt choose either
Messaged Drs in Turkey via whatsapp and instagram
Some refused to help and some said i would have to consult in person
I am thinkin maybe next year i might go to turkey to meet some Drs
My husband says i dont need it but i feel i want to do it for my own happiness
People compliment my nose but most people laugh or mock
Gotta have a thick skin until i get it sorted
Hope everyone is doing well and feeling happy
I will try to visit regularly here , i had a mesage alert on my old email addy then i realised there were lots!!!
Had to reset my password haha!
Everyone take care
And if ur gona get a nose op, look for a nose specialist who is also and ENT.... not someone who does everything and anything (butts, breasts, etc).
Havent been on here in years
Lots of life changes (relationship, work, etc)
Still havent had a 2nd revision
Had filler a few times with Nyla Raja and a Dr in London (dont recall her name)
The fillers didnt last long
Also went to see Dr Yusra and Skin Clinics and Amanda Pierce, they all refused me fillers lol
Consulted last in person with East and Ion and didnt choose either
Messaged Drs in Turkey via whatsapp and instagram
Some refused to help and some said i would have to consult in person
I am thinkin maybe next year i might go to turkey to meet some Drs
My husband says i dont need it but i feel i want to do it for my own happiness
People compliment my nose but most people laugh or mock
Gotta have a thick skin until i get it sorted
Hope everyone is doing well and feeling happy
I will try to visit regularly here , i had a mesage alert on my old email addy then i realised there were lots!!!
Had to reset my password haha!
Everyone take care
And if ur gona get a nose op, look for a nose specialist who is also and ENT.... not someone who does everything and anything (butts, breasts, etc).
UPDATED FROM Bubblegum2013
2 years post
May/June 2015
Bubblegum2013June 2, 2015
Hello everyone, hope you are all doing well and hope you all are building your confidence and not feeling upset about our experiences!
Thank you first of all to everyone who has messaged me in my inbox or on here, its really nice to know we arent alone and we can all help each other and relate and uplift one another.
I consulted with Charles East and Lucian Ion this week. They are really honest and came across very kind and considerate.
East wants to focus on my function more so, mattis work has left webbing in my nose thats why my breathing is so bad. I have an eye operation this summer, so East basically is asking me to wait a while and think about it as my eyes are more important. he was very thorough and had a good look at my nose. but he is an ENT he is more concerned about function. he said surgons can oly change 1-2 things at a time. I have to think about it to be honest and as i have put my body through this trauma so many times, this is not something, I - or you all should be rushing into.
Lucian Ion was really good too. He let me talk more- i noticed in the first consultation he let me talk and didnt talk over ,e so he listens to what I was saying. This time, he had the same patience as my first consultation and when i asked him "what do you think? " he said he can't impose what he wishes he wanted to know what would make ME happy. I thought that was really nice. He showed me different options and views, and possible outcomes and how i may feel after (it may be too long when I smile, and such). So we discussed and re-evaluated things we had brought up last year in the first consultation. I dont have the old print outs of his morphs, so he gave me a USB of my images which was a nice gesture. I also asked him about lip injections, and he honestly said they wouldnt look right on me and he said my lips look fine. I bet if it was Matti he wouldve jabbed me with an injection there and then. (kidding). Little things like this made me think that these two doctors werent just out for money. but this is only my opinion I suppose I havent been their rhinoplasty patient yet.
Ion plans on using rib ( some of the outer layer, and the core) - and I was happy with what he proposed - slightly narrower in between the eye area, and evening out my nostrils, rebuilding the dip at the side of my nose, and reversing a bit of the pinched appearance).
Both East and Ion did say the grafts Matti placed at my nostrils have warped/curved in thats why its pinched.
Ion said he will use some new techniques, which included injections and some glue internally to secure and fix the way the skin drapes inside. IT was a bit much to take it but i will not rush and think about everything deeply in time. Ion also said i need to think about it, and he would like to consult with me again before I decide. I am going to wait 8 months or so then I will see how I am feeling, both Surgeons said my eyes are my priority. So i agree with them there, and both said my nose isnt that bad and I am nice-looking haha (what an ego boost, but I slowly realise it isnt that terrible)- I still dislike it, but I think there are children out there who have severe facial disfigurement and people who cant afford simple healthcare. I am lucky, but I will not rush and make foolish decisions in relation to my health in future- I hope not anyway. As for the lip injections... I think i will stick to my make up tricks for that! :)
[RS bleep]
If you have any questions please let me know
hope you are all well x
Thank you first of all to everyone who has messaged me in my inbox or on here, its really nice to know we arent alone and we can all help each other and relate and uplift one another.
I consulted with Charles East and Lucian Ion this week. They are really honest and came across very kind and considerate.
East wants to focus on my function more so, mattis work has left webbing in my nose thats why my breathing is so bad. I have an eye operation this summer, so East basically is asking me to wait a while and think about it as my eyes are more important. he was very thorough and had a good look at my nose. but he is an ENT he is more concerned about function. he said surgons can oly change 1-2 things at a time. I have to think about it to be honest and as i have put my body through this trauma so many times, this is not something, I - or you all should be rushing into.
Lucian Ion was really good too. He let me talk more- i noticed in the first consultation he let me talk and didnt talk over ,e so he listens to what I was saying. This time, he had the same patience as my first consultation and when i asked him "what do you think? " he said he can't impose what he wishes he wanted to know what would make ME happy. I thought that was really nice. He showed me different options and views, and possible outcomes and how i may feel after (it may be too long when I smile, and such). So we discussed and re-evaluated things we had brought up last year in the first consultation. I dont have the old print outs of his morphs, so he gave me a USB of my images which was a nice gesture. I also asked him about lip injections, and he honestly said they wouldnt look right on me and he said my lips look fine. I bet if it was Matti he wouldve jabbed me with an injection there and then. (kidding). Little things like this made me think that these two doctors werent just out for money. but this is only my opinion I suppose I havent been their rhinoplasty patient yet.
Ion plans on using rib ( some of the outer layer, and the core) - and I was happy with what he proposed - slightly narrower in between the eye area, and evening out my nostrils, rebuilding the dip at the side of my nose, and reversing a bit of the pinched appearance).
Both East and Ion did say the grafts Matti placed at my nostrils have warped/curved in thats why its pinched.
Ion said he will use some new techniques, which included injections and some glue internally to secure and fix the way the skin drapes inside. IT was a bit much to take it but i will not rush and think about everything deeply in time. Ion also said i need to think about it, and he would like to consult with me again before I decide. I am going to wait 8 months or so then I will see how I am feeling, both Surgeons said my eyes are my priority. So i agree with them there, and both said my nose isnt that bad and I am nice-looking haha (what an ego boost, but I slowly realise it isnt that terrible)- I still dislike it, but I think there are children out there who have severe facial disfigurement and people who cant afford simple healthcare. I am lucky, but I will not rush and make foolish decisions in relation to my health in future- I hope not anyway. As for the lip injections... I think i will stick to my make up tricks for that! :)
[RS bleep]
If you have any questions please let me know
hope you are all well x
Replies (5)
Dizzydolly83
June 2, 2015
Hi there, thanks for the update. I do want to stress that I personally don't think your nose looks bad at all from these photo's. I'd love to have a nose like that! Perhaps the real issues aren't visible enough on here so I don't see all the concerns... Anyway, you are a very pretty girl, so it's really too bad you can't see it like that. As for the function, sure this is top priority. I hope you'll have better luck with your eye surgery. My best! X
Bubblegum2013
June 3, 2015
thank you so much [RS bleep] thats what CE and LI said- i do think we over analyse little imperfections and other people wouldnt notice as much. a revision would make me forget any nose insecurities i hope and getting the breathing sorted just want to stop stressing over it and live my life again [RS bleep] hope things are well with you too xx
Orange300
June 3, 2015
Hi bubblegum I to am an unhappy BM patient. I am waiting for a consultation with Charles East and have had a good consultation with David Roberts . I'm currently scheduled for surgery with simon Withey who is lovely however I am holding out and seeing ENT surgeons also. Please keep us posted on how you get on and who you choose x
softnose
June 3, 2015
I too, am an unhappy BM patient :( my nose grafts are so visible! Im also looking for a revision specialist but it's so hard to trust someone to operate on my nose for the 3rd time! I hope one day soon we can all be happy with ourselves x
Orange300
June 4, 2015
Hi softnose sorry to hear that . Who are you thinking of consulting x
Noseissuez
January 15, 2016
I'm also an unhappy matti patient. :(
September 14, 2015
Really wish you luck with both your eyes and your nose. Best wishes.
August 25, 2020
Thank u so much
Havent been on here in years
Life gets busy!!
Still havent had a 2nd revision but considering Turkey in future. It is a big risk though, never know how good a Dr is unless uve been lucky
Havent been on here in years
Life gets busy!!
Still havent had a 2nd revision but considering Turkey in future. It is a big risk though, never know how good a Dr is unless uve been lucky
September 15, 2016
Hi,
I've just read about your story on real self and was wondering if you decided to go for another revision and if so , which surgeon did you choose ?
I've just read about your story on real self and was wondering if you decided to go for another revision and if so , which surgeon did you choose ?

September 15, 2016
Yes, I would be curious to know which surgeon you're more likely to go with too. East or Ion or neither? :)
August 25, 2020
Hi sorry i havent been on here in years
Life complications etc
I didnt go with East or Ion
I still havent had a revision
I am xonsidering going to Turkey in future but v scared! I will probs consult with a few Drs there next year
Life complications etc
I didnt go with East or Ion
I still havent had a revision
I am xonsidering going to Turkey in future but v scared! I will probs consult with a few Drs there next year
January 5, 2017
Did you ever go ahead with a revision? Are you happy now? I had Matti for my primary, but it didn't go as well as I had hoped :( considering getting a revision with Ion
August 25, 2020
Hi no i didnt have any 2ndary nose revisions yet. So indecisive lol i think i will probably look for a dr in turkey. I message a few via whatsapp and instagram, some refused, some said they would want to consult. Its a risk though, Dr skill level as well as not knowing who or if someone is just out for the money. I wish i hadnt gone with Matti. My nose looked more natural after the 1st op
UPDATED FROM Bubblegum2013
1 year post
Been a While!
Bubblegum2013February 2, 2015
Hey everyone
So not been on here in a while!
I was due an operation this month but it has been postponed as there is no donor material (unrelated to nose surgery)
Therefore I am considering going through with a revision rhino-septoplasty now since I have the next 6 months to wait.
I am strongly considering Lucian Ion in London, I consulted with him he was a reserved but nice character.
I consulted with Matti and was unimpressed to be honest. The usual bull. I don't think I will ever go back into that building. Waste of time, money and energy.
I had also booked a consultation with Charles East but never got to see him as my appointment was cancelled on the actual day or day before (it was around a year ago now so can't remember to be exact). but it was the day before or on the day as i was only in london for 3 days.
I was a little annoyed but put it down to fate I guess.
Really anxious but in a strange way excited and at times very very scared.
Guys this has GOT to be the last time I do this. It is far too bloody traumatic for me.
I am queasy as it is when I see blood but the pain and mental trauma from surgeries is making me really hate life.
I just want my happy outgoing self back.
I want to get all aspects of my health sorted and I am positive my conifdence will follow.
I have had counselling and such and I think it is a waste of time. I am stubborn and know what I want and what will make me happy.
Just annoyed I feel like bad stuff always happens to me.
Those who have a successful primary have no idea how fortunate they are, bless them. Wish I was one of the lucky ones!
Please feel free to message or anything- I will most likely be on here more regularly now [RS bleep] Hope you are all well :)
So not been on here in a while!
I was due an operation this month but it has been postponed as there is no donor material (unrelated to nose surgery)
Therefore I am considering going through with a revision rhino-septoplasty now since I have the next 6 months to wait.
I am strongly considering Lucian Ion in London, I consulted with him he was a reserved but nice character.
I consulted with Matti and was unimpressed to be honest. The usual bull. I don't think I will ever go back into that building. Waste of time, money and energy.
I had also booked a consultation with Charles East but never got to see him as my appointment was cancelled on the actual day or day before (it was around a year ago now so can't remember to be exact). but it was the day before or on the day as i was only in london for 3 days.
I was a little annoyed but put it down to fate I guess.
Really anxious but in a strange way excited and at times very very scared.
Guys this has GOT to be the last time I do this. It is far too bloody traumatic for me.
I am queasy as it is when I see blood but the pain and mental trauma from surgeries is making me really hate life.
I just want my happy outgoing self back.
I want to get all aspects of my health sorted and I am positive my conifdence will follow.
I have had counselling and such and I think it is a waste of time. I am stubborn and know what I want and what will make me happy.
Just annoyed I feel like bad stuff always happens to me.
Those who have a successful primary have no idea how fortunate they are, bless them. Wish I was one of the lucky ones!
Please feel free to message or anything- I will most likely be on here more regularly now [RS bleep] Hope you are all well :)
Replies (4)
February 3, 2015
I'm so, so sorry for what you have been through. What grafts were used in you? Can anything be done with the materials you have in your nose now?
June 3, 2015
thank you - septal grafts but in the next revision rib. i hear ear warps and is too soft xx
February 15, 2015
I'm so sorry for what you've been through. My God.
You might really need to consider an implant.
Are you breathing better, at least? Did he even remove scar tissue from the previous nose job?
June 2, 2015
aww thank you for your message. i will need rib grafting and i have quite a bit of scar tissue inside the nose. i wouldnt let matti touch me again thats for sure x
February 15, 2015
Hi Bubbelgum,
I can relate to a lot of your story. I also had a primary rhinoplasty with the hospital group February last year and my life turned upside down. I had a nose just like your original nose and I would give almost anything to have that back. Luckily I am not having breathing difficulties but the appearance is similar to how you feel about yours. I have also had a consultation with Mr Ion for a revision which will more than likely need Rib to lengthen and build up my bridge. I'm not decided yet as to whether I will be going with him but maybe we can help each other in our decision making for our next and FINAL Rhinoplasty! Nice to know we are not alone although i know we would rather be anywhere else but here X
June 2, 2015
hi there i hope you are getting on ok! im so sorry to hear your story xx function is more important than appearance remember so you are very lucky you dont have breathing issues which many people experience in these surgeries. how are you getting on ? i consulted with East and Ion and can i say, i really liked them both. a lot more professional than Araco or MAtti. I saw Woolford about 2 years ago and Ian Mackay and though they were a little harsh, I value their honesty. Ion and East come across as very honest and considerate to me.
June 2, 2015
they only used septal grafts. matti said if he revised again he would use ear. i was like Hell no because it curves and warps and is too soft. Ion and East i think would use rib which i prefer. not looking forward to the scar there though! xx

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