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Less-than-ideal cosmetic results and complications for life (dry eyes and lagophthalmos)
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I am 37, and I had upper and lower...
Blef LeppardJanuary 28, 2015
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I am 37, and I had upper and lower (transcutaneous) blepharoplasty about 7 weeks ago. Below is a summary of the complications I have encountered. I'm putting this out there because I'd love to "compare notes" in comments with other folks who have had similar experiences.
Painful Stitch -- Immediately post-op (before even leaving the surgery center), I had an intense feeling of something poking/scratching in the outer corner of one of my eyes. It felt like a stitch or perhaps a snipped eyelash might have been scratching either the surface of my eye or the inner surface of my eyelid. I mentioned this right away to the nurse, but I was told it was probably just dryness and to use eye drops. This intense pain lasted for the first few days, and then it would come and go. I had my stiches removed a week after my surgery, but still experienced the pain, periodically. In my Week 3 follow-up appointment, the doctor found and removed a stitch with a knot out of that same corner of my eye, and I’m pretty sure that was what was causing the pain because it never returned after that.
Lagophthalmos – During the entire first week after my surgery (and even well into the second week), I could not close either of my eyes without really clenching hard to force them shut. This was extremely scary. My right eye was much worse than my left. This meant that I could not close my eyes when sleeping or blinking, and it caused EXTREME dryness and pain for me in my first week. This, combined from the pain from the “rogue” stitch was almost unbearable during the first few days.
I was told to put ointment (e.g. Refresh PM) in my eyes to protect them at night and use preservative-free artificial tears (the kind that come in individual vials) during the day. The preservative-free artificial tears did seem to be a little better than the ones I had been using, but did not provide complete relief. Also, the ointment at night did not help me at all, and even made matters worse. The sensation was as if the ointment itself would dry out and start leeching the already-scarce moisture from my eyes. Eventually, I found a solution on my own. I began using artificial tears before going to bed, put plastic wrap over my eyes, and then used a fabric sleep mask over the plastic wrap to help hold it in place. The plastic wrap created a moisture chamber so that my eyes wouldn’t dry out at night.
I am 7 weeks post-op, and although I can finally close my eyes with relative ease, they still only partially blink (unless I consciously blink all the way), and they don’t stay closed when I sleep. So I still have to use my plastic wrap solution every single night. It sort of makes me feel like a freak.
Dry Eyes – From Day 1 all the way until now (Week 7), I have been having problems with dry eyes. I’m not sure whether this is solely due to the lagophthalmos, or if there is some other factor (e.g., tear production?) involved. I doubt it is due to swelling because most of that has subsided. Anyhow, today, at Week 7, I am still using artificial tears almost every hour, have trouble with my contact lenses, and my eyes are constantly uncomfortable and red. This is really pretty terrible, and I’m worried that I will have to deal with dry eyes for the rest of my life. Although I like my cosmetic results, I am teetering on regretting having this procedure done because of this.
Chemosis – The clear conjunctiva which covers the sclera (the white of my eye) became swollen in both eyes immediately following surgery. When I would look inwards towards my nose, the conjunctiva would “bunch up” between my iris (the blue-colored part of my eye) and the lacrimal caruncle (the little pink triangle in the inner corner of the eye). I’ve been given a steroid/antibiotic drop to address this. The drops have helped, but as of Week 7, it still hasn’t completely resolved.
Random stitches – I had my stitches removed a week after my surgery, but every now and then, a piece of leftover stitch would poke through my skin. Most of these stitches have been the “dissolvable” kind. Even now in the 7th week, I just found another rogue stitch almost 1/4” long poking through at the outside corner. It was easy to just pull out myself with tweezers. It too was the “dissolvable” kind.
Loss of sensation – This is something I was never very worried about, but in the first few weeks after my surgery, I had a loss of sensation below my right eye. If I touched the area about one inch below my eye, it would feel like I was running my finger along the bottom of my eyeball. It was not scary or painful – just weird. At Week 7, most of this has resolved, but it still feels a little weird if I try to put on eyeliner.
Painful Stitch -- Immediately post-op (before even leaving the surgery center), I had an intense feeling of something poking/scratching in the outer corner of one of my eyes. It felt like a stitch or perhaps a snipped eyelash might have been scratching either the surface of my eye or the inner surface of my eyelid. I mentioned this right away to the nurse, but I was told it was probably just dryness and to use eye drops. This intense pain lasted for the first few days, and then it would come and go. I had my stiches removed a week after my surgery, but still experienced the pain, periodically. In my Week 3 follow-up appointment, the doctor found and removed a stitch with a knot out of that same corner of my eye, and I’m pretty sure that was what was causing the pain because it never returned after that.
Lagophthalmos – During the entire first week after my surgery (and even well into the second week), I could not close either of my eyes without really clenching hard to force them shut. This was extremely scary. My right eye was much worse than my left. This meant that I could not close my eyes when sleeping or blinking, and it caused EXTREME dryness and pain for me in my first week. This, combined from the pain from the “rogue” stitch was almost unbearable during the first few days.
I was told to put ointment (e.g. Refresh PM) in my eyes to protect them at night and use preservative-free artificial tears (the kind that come in individual vials) during the day. The preservative-free artificial tears did seem to be a little better than the ones I had been using, but did not provide complete relief. Also, the ointment at night did not help me at all, and even made matters worse. The sensation was as if the ointment itself would dry out and start leeching the already-scarce moisture from my eyes. Eventually, I found a solution on my own. I began using artificial tears before going to bed, put plastic wrap over my eyes, and then used a fabric sleep mask over the plastic wrap to help hold it in place. The plastic wrap created a moisture chamber so that my eyes wouldn’t dry out at night.
I am 7 weeks post-op, and although I can finally close my eyes with relative ease, they still only partially blink (unless I consciously blink all the way), and they don’t stay closed when I sleep. So I still have to use my plastic wrap solution every single night. It sort of makes me feel like a freak.
Dry Eyes – From Day 1 all the way until now (Week 7), I have been having problems with dry eyes. I’m not sure whether this is solely due to the lagophthalmos, or if there is some other factor (e.g., tear production?) involved. I doubt it is due to swelling because most of that has subsided. Anyhow, today, at Week 7, I am still using artificial tears almost every hour, have trouble with my contact lenses, and my eyes are constantly uncomfortable and red. This is really pretty terrible, and I’m worried that I will have to deal with dry eyes for the rest of my life. Although I like my cosmetic results, I am teetering on regretting having this procedure done because of this.
Chemosis – The clear conjunctiva which covers the sclera (the white of my eye) became swollen in both eyes immediately following surgery. When I would look inwards towards my nose, the conjunctiva would “bunch up” between my iris (the blue-colored part of my eye) and the lacrimal caruncle (the little pink triangle in the inner corner of the eye). I’ve been given a steroid/antibiotic drop to address this. The drops have helped, but as of Week 7, it still hasn’t completely resolved.
Random stitches – I had my stitches removed a week after my surgery, but every now and then, a piece of leftover stitch would poke through my skin. Most of these stitches have been the “dissolvable” kind. Even now in the 7th week, I just found another rogue stitch almost 1/4” long poking through at the outside corner. It was easy to just pull out myself with tweezers. It too was the “dissolvable” kind.
Loss of sensation – This is something I was never very worried about, but in the first few weeks after my surgery, I had a loss of sensation below my right eye. If I touched the area about one inch below my eye, it would feel like I was running my finger along the bottom of my eyeball. It was not scary or painful – just weird. At Week 7, most of this has resolved, but it still feels a little weird if I try to put on eyeliner.
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January 30, 2015
Hello, I had the loss of sensation under my eyes below the eyelash line but all feeling does return after a few months.
August 17, 2015
oh, i went one day to apply make you for the first time....2 months after surgery and i could not put on top eyeliner because i could not feel my upper lids.i was shocked. i have not tried since and feel that since i have no place special to go i will go el natural. glad you can look prettier than me as i miss makeup
February 3, 2015
I'm sorry for your troubles! I recentnly had upper and lower lids done... But my
doctor made sure that the skin that was going to be removed did not compromise
my eyelids from completely closing; I even inquired as he was taking measurements prior
to the operation. You my dear have a Law suit! I had upper & lower lids Blepharoplasty. But the under the eye resurfacing fraxel Co2 under eye that has taken the longest to heal, I'm post op 2months now. Senseativity level around the eyes I would say around 4 when applying makeup. Good luck!
February 3, 2015
Thank you for your comment, harvest63. I'm glad to hear things went well for you. I'm definitely NOT looking for a lawsuit! My doctor has actually been pretty amazing throughout this process and I'm hopeful that the lagophthalmos will continue to get better with time as the tissues relax.

March 29, 2015
I also had these side effects, but at 5 months out, they're finally going away.
I have always had "dissolvable" stitches work their way out of my skin instead of dissolving, so I expected that. The swelling of my conjunctiva is gone at last (although I have the occasional flare-up when I wear my contacts more than a few hours, or when my allergies are acting up). I still have some numbness under my eyes, but when I consider the amount of work done, I'm not surprised by that. Cutting away tissue means cutting nerves, and because I've had non-elective surgery in the past, I know that nerve regeneration is slow going.
I feel like most of this is a hassle, but not anything to get too worked up over. When I Googled these symptoms, I found site after site that said they were pretty standard stuff. And my eyes close perfectly well now!
From your pictures, it looks like you also had a lot of skin removed (my Dr said he'd never had to take so much fat and skin off any other patient), so your side-effects are probably more intense because of that, the way mine were!
Hope you're at least a little reassured. You're not alone!!!
March 29, 2015
Thanks for the reassurance, Paperfiddler! I hope I am as lucky as you and my discomfort subsides. The dry eye issues are what I really struggle with. I have 4 punctal plugs, and I've been on Restasis for 5 weeks, and it's just beginning to get to the point where I can wear my contacts again. Did you have issues with dry eye too?

March 30, 2015
Terrible dry eyes! Mine still come and go, but every day they're less dry - and I had REALLY had dry eyes!
A couple of months ago, I finally saw an ophthalmologist, and he said my surgeon had told me all the right stuff - it's just that when your work is a bigger deal, the side-effects are bigger, and last longer.
It's hard to relax, I know, but I just needed assurance from someone else to know everything would be ok, and maybe that'll help for you.
If you're worried, go see a specialist who deals with something related (like I did with my ophthalmologist), and see what they say. Do whatever you need to feel better about your situation. Once you have that reassurance, then just give it some time... For 7 weeks, you look incredible!

March 30, 2015
Thanks so much for your reply! I'm so glad your eyes are feeling better! My sugeon is an ophthalmologist herself, and she referred me to a cornea specialist too, so I've been seeing both of them. They both seem to think it will get better, but then I come on this site and read posts from people who are still struggling with dry eyes YEARS after their procedures, and I get all worked up about it again. So THANK YOU a million times for giving me some glimmer of hope! And thank you for your nice compliments on my results. :-)
August 17, 2015
oh dear dry eyes...yes ye yes. my right eye is so bad. must admit that i had dry eyes before and had plugs. tomorrow i have an appointment withmy opt cause i cannot live on pain pills. my eye feels like i have knives cutting the inside of my eye.i am frustrated but hopeful that something will work. if anyone has answers i would welcome them. years ago i used restasis until they stopped working.t from others that this is a year process and in the end most of us come out with good results. it seems that the eyes change minute by minute. one day swollen, next not. oh well, blessing to you all
August 17, 2015
I understand your pain. Mine gets excruciating if I try to sleep without the plastic wrap over my eyes.
One thing that's helping me besides the Restasis and punctal plugs is wearing contact lenses designed to help keep your eyes moist. I wear Acuvue Oasys lenses, and my eyes actually feel much better when I have them in. They sort of work like a band-aid for me by trapping moisture where I need it.
One thing that's helping me besides the Restasis and punctal plugs is wearing contact lenses designed to help keep your eyes moist. I wear Acuvue Oasys lenses, and my eyes actually feel much better when I have them in. They sort of work like a band-aid for me by trapping moisture where I need it.

March 29, 2015
BTW - your after pictures are outstanding! You must be pleased with your outcome. You look great!
UPDATED FROM Blef Leppard
1 month post
A couple more things I forgot to mention in my original post...
Blef LeppardJanuary 28, 2015
Here are two more things I forgot to mention in my original post:
Mild lower lid retraction -- I started to see slight lower lid retraction in both eyes. I've been instructed to use massage to help with the tightness/retraction. Although I've been slightly more aggressive with it than instructed, I'm still not sure whether it's helping. Time will tell, I guess.
Bruised upper eyelid -- After all my bruises from surgery had completely healed (3 weeks post-op), I ended up bruising my upper eyelid pretty bad when attempting to remove some makeup. I was using one of those Simple Facial Cleansing wipes, and I must have scrubbed too hard and broken a fragile blood vessel. Blood pooled under the skin for the first couple days and gradually spread into a bruise that covered my entire upper eyelid. It took about 3 weeks for it to completely go away.
Mild lower lid retraction -- I started to see slight lower lid retraction in both eyes. I've been instructed to use massage to help with the tightness/retraction. Although I've been slightly more aggressive with it than instructed, I'm still not sure whether it's helping. Time will tell, I guess.
Bruised upper eyelid -- After all my bruises from surgery had completely healed (3 weeks post-op), I ended up bruising my upper eyelid pretty bad when attempting to remove some makeup. I was using one of those Simple Facial Cleansing wipes, and I must have scrubbed too hard and broken a fragile blood vessel. Blood pooled under the skin for the first couple days and gradually spread into a bruise that covered my entire upper eyelid. It took about 3 weeks for it to completely go away.
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January 30, 2015
oh my gosh I hope you are doing better now.
Would you mind sharing some before and after pictures
January 30, 2015
Thanks, Laila. I'm still working through most of these complications, but I'm hopeful that things will get better. I've attached some before and after pictures.

March 31, 2015
I hadn't realized how tender my lids still were, until I went it for a make-up application lesson (trying to figure out how to make up my eyes now that it's not all about camouflaging my droopy upper lids and my huge bags underneath). With just a few brush strokes, she brought back some bruises (and this was at 3 months out).
I still get a little bruising if I'm aggressive with my eyeshadow removal. I also have tenderness around the top of my cheekbones. Once again, I chalk that up to the amount of work I had done. I figure time will fix this problem.
The lower lid retraction is something I'm also dealing with. I try to do the stretching massage, but I can't really do it when I'm working, so I tend to forget. I have found that when I get even the least bit teary, the tears just pour down my cheeks. My contact lense actually washed out of my eye a couple of weeks ago, the tears were so fast to flow! Bizarre new trick!!!
I'm going with the idea that surgery is surgery - things are cut, and it takes time for the body to fully heal. And also that because I've never had eyes without big bags, and sagging upper lids before, I need to just go with the flow. Maybe people with naturally wide open eyes are having the same issues I'm having with tears, and keeping my contacts in place. Just the price I have to pay for these new and improved eyes!
March 31, 2015
It's so nice to hear from someone who can relate to all the same problems! Did you ever have to get extra treatment for dry eyes like I did? I have 4 puntal plugs, and I've also been prescribed Restasis. Today my eyes felt pretty good (even with contacts) but I fear that if I didn't have the punctal plugs and Restasis, I would still be absolutely miserable.

March 31, 2015
I was pretty bad, but other than the ointment, the antibiotic drops, and the steroid drops, I was finally convinced to just relax, and let it go.
Your Dr must've checked for dry eye before doing your surgery, right? Oh - I was also told that women have dry eye problems more than guys, and that the older you are, the worse the post-surgical dry eyes will be. "Thanks guys, I'm so old that my eyes are turning into the Sahara Desert? Nice." Ouch!!!
March 31, 2015
My doctor didn't do any tests for dry eye beforehand, but I was asked a lot of questions about whether I had ever experienced any dry eye symptoms (I never had). I think they assumed that since I had always worn contact lenses comfortably without any problems that the tests weren't necessary. Sometimes I wonder if tests might have indicated prior dryness.
I've heard that dry eye symptoms can worsen with age too. That worries me because I'm still pretty young, and I'm already using most, if not all, of the available treatments (punctal plugs and Restasis). Mine is really severe now, and if it gets worse, I fear I'll be "up the creek without a paddle!"
June 17, 2015
OMG you have a tough time! I will tell you though, your eyes look beautiful! I have been looking at eye surgeries for a year now. I've seen women who look worse then when they started and women who don't look like anything was done. Your result looks really good and I have no reason to tell you anything but the truth. Best wishes!
June 17, 2015
Skippy1, you have no idea how much your comments mean to me. I appreciate it so much! You and a few other folks have helped pull me out of a place of sadness. Thank you so much!
August 14, 2015
An ophthalmologist can give you temporary eye plugs. This will definitely help with the dryness.
August 14, 2015
Thanks for the suggestion, Faithsheryl. I actually already have 4 plugs, and they do seem to help somewhat.
April 28, 2016
I had very similar problems. One Doctor put in lower eye implants to get rid of dark underlines that appeared to be sunken in, I had infection set up so they were removed leaving me with retracted lower lids.
Next Doctor was to repair lower retracted lids with two separate procedures by cutting the outside of my lids and pulling upward with surgery. My eyes are sooo sensitive that in the beginning I had to wear 2 pair of sunglasses to go outside. I am still blinded by sunlight but down to one pair now. And dryness is extreme causing eye pain and constant watering of the eyes due to lids being to tight against my eyeballs.
I wish I had never even tried to correct the lower lid retraction, I good lived with that much better than this, and this has been going on for about 6 years!
Next Doctor was to repair lower retracted lids with two separate procedures by cutting the outside of my lids and pulling upward with surgery. My eyes are sooo sensitive that in the beginning I had to wear 2 pair of sunglasses to go outside. I am still blinded by sunlight but down to one pair now. And dryness is extreme causing eye pain and constant watering of the eyes due to lids being to tight against my eyeballs.
I wish I had never even tried to correct the lower lid retraction, I good lived with that much better than this, and this has been going on for about 6 years!
April 28, 2016
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to hear that! That's horrible, and you're not alone. Several stories like yours have scared me away from revision surgery. I'm too afraid of making things worse!
UPDATED FROM Blef Leppard
1 month post
Before and After Pictures
Blef LeppardJanuary 30, 2015
Here are a few before and after pictures. You can also see other pictures I've taken of some of my complications if you select my name to see my other posts.
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January 31, 2015
hello, your eyes look nice in the pictures!
I had a short incision face-lift, an upper bleph, lower skin "pinch" and fat transfer 18 days ago. I am concerned about my lower eyelid still having the crepiness and my eyes looking small, I am also worried about them looking hollow. I recently met with the doctor and he said it is because it is swollen. Did you have any swelling? Did it change the shape of your eyes?
January 31, 2015
Hi - Yes, I had lots of swelling! I think that's normal for the first few weeks though. At 7 weeks, mine still swell up quite a bit overnight and look really puffy in the mornings. By afternoon, most of the swelling subsides.
I'm no doctor, but doesn't seem like swelling would cause crepiness or hollowness. Do you mean he was saying the small appearance of your eyes was due to swelling?
January 31, 2015
Also, it seems to have changed the shape of my eye slightly due to a very small amount of lower lid retraction. I'm hopeful that this will subside as the tissues relax.
February 1, 2015
Hi there. I want to let you know that I had upper and lowers done 2 years ago and will say, I wondered more than once if I had done the right thing at 61, haha. Plus, I had a stitched taken in one eye lid for ptosis, and canthoplexy on both eyes. So, I had one eye, the right, that popped open and had a tilted cat eye look for, oh, at least 6 weeks, haha. It did look presentable by 4 weeks which is when I went back to work. I didn't have any dry eye but it isn't that uncommon. I did have faith in my doctor, he is very good and have put myself in his hands since. We just aren't prepared for the what if's, until we get here. You do look nice and I'm sure it will all be fine. Just hang in there, like you have an alternative right now.
February 1, 2015
Thank you so much for your kind words and reassurance! I actually had canthpexy too, and I experienced the same tilted, cat eye look in one eye, but that only lasted a couple weeks. I have a lot of faith in my doctor too, so I'm just waiting to see what will happen, and hoping for the best!
February 16, 2015
Hi. How are you doing now? Hope your complications are lessening! Keep us posted.
February 16, 2015
Thanks for asking - that's nice of you. I'm a little over 9 weeks post-op, and I'm still having a lot of problems (lagophthalmos, dry eye, chemosis). I'm at the point where I sit and have a little cry about it every day. Today has been pretty rough. :-(
February 16, 2015
Hi ... I had my lower eyelids done 4 1/2 weeks ago along with a fat transfer. I'm a little worried also. I had chemosis in my right eye 1 week post op and it's not completely gone. The lower right lid is not closing and skin also has crepiness (weird looking). Although the scar is almost not noticeable it is very hard. I have been messaging it several times a day as directed my my PS but it doesn't seem to be getting any better. I go back in two weeks to see my PS, will post an update.
February 16, 2015
Nicollin, I definitely feel for you. The longer these problems have persist, the more worried and sad I become. Here's hoping we both fully recover!
February 17, 2015
Try GenTeal ointment at bedtime. It's thicker than drops. Go to an oculoplastic dr for help. You may have dry eye. Restasis or plugs might help you. So sorry for your difficulties.
February 17, 2015
Thanks, mollygirl! I've tried a couple different ointments (Refresh PM and Puralube), but they actually make the dryness even worse for me (weird, I know). I haven't tried the Genteal ointment yet though, so maybe that's worth a try. I have plugs on the bottoms, but they don't seem to be doing much. It might be time to try top plugs and/or Restasis.
March 10, 2015
Hi. Just wondering if for your lower kids you had lower orbital fat repositioning or if it was just fat removal?
The poling stitches and chemosis sound especially horrible- I'm sorry you are dealing with all of this. I hope things start to get better soon- you still have a lot of healing to do. I hope you find some eye surgery vets on the site who can talk to you about the complications. Please keep us posted.
This forum post is a good place to meet other people:
http://www.realself.com/forum/eyelid-blepharoplast...
*poking not poling. I hope the plugs work- I'm glad your doctor is proactive and helping with the issues you are having. Let us know how those go and if they help.