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Literally a Nightmare of Pain Due Exclusively to This Provider Who Won’t Fix the Damage He Created!

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I had my first ever root canal on my #2 tooth and...

Tala95595
$2,800
I had my first ever root canal on my #2 tooth and ended up with a gargantuan crown done by Dr. Miller. It was bulky and way too big from the beginning, but I decided to go along to get along because it was in the back and already glued in permanently before I realized the problem. It would bother me periodically and he would sand it down and it would bother me and he would sand it down, etc.

He’s such a great dentist that (sarcasm) I needed another root canal and another crown a year later. This crown was more freakishly gargantuan than the first, but unlike the first, this one was on the #5 tooth and visible to anyone who would talk to me.

After a ton of pain and gouging into my cheek creating a perpetually sore spot, the dentist sanded the Godzilla of a crown down. Fast forward, I was having the same problem and came back. He sanded it down again with the admonition that it couldn’t be made any thinner. I was still having the pain from the large size of the crown and having a nightmare of a food trap from the significant margin he had created with such an ill fit that existed between the top of my crown and the bottom of my gum line.

I go back in pain and with a horrible taste in the crown, and he agrees to make an appointment to take it off later and cast a mold for a new crown. He tells me that it is super easy to get the crown off, you just drill a little line in it and BOOM it pops off.

When my appointment to get it taken off comes around 2 weeks later (still in pain the whole time), it is again a nightmare. The crown does not come off easily, or even with some difficulty, but rather with blood, sweat and tears as only shattered shards are left of my $1200 crown. A temporary is made around 2 hours (!!) later and I leave, to wait for my permanent crown to come in.

Crown comes in and is still comparatively bulky to the surrounding teeth, but now it at least visually blends (except from the backside) and doesn’t cause the constant cheek sores. Taking off the temporary also caused an absolutely sickening odor to come forth, apparently because it had been sealed poorly or not at all, and that smell was a representation of over a fortnight of collected food and bacteria.

At the same time, I had just had my second rotator cuff surgery just in 2017 alone, so pain was kind of relative in terms of dental work, but I again complained about the bulkiness of the original crown (tooth #2) and again Dr. Miller made adjustments. I assumed the chronic sores in my cheek would go away after the space was filled by an appropriate crown on #5, but the inflammation just kind of spread out and never healed or went away no matter how much I tried. During an annual physical, my primary care doctor noticed the painful sores in my cheek and asked me what they were about. I explained the dental situation and he checked his notes to confirm that I’d been having the same mouth issue this time last year, although a larger area seemed to have developed and I picked up a sizable white line in my cheek from where I was accidentally biting down on it so often from the ill fitting crown (#2). My primary care provider urged me to get the dental work resolved, not only for my comfort, but pointed out the obvious : that I just can’t have a huge sore in my mouth that never heals, those sores can turn into a pre-cancer situation, and that’s undesirable. CANCER?!

So the #2 crown continues to bulge into my cheek, aggravating my massive sore. My bite had become so maladjusted that I started biting accidentally both the cheek with the crown, and the cheek on the OTHER side. Peers point out to me the weird faces I keep making as I contort my mouth to the position where the crown puts the least pressure gouging into my cheek. The pain and domino effect of problems become so intolerable that I call the office begging for help first thing on a Monday morning. They agree to see me just to look at the situation, not fix it, but inspect it — NEXT Monday at 4.30pm.

So I’m to be in more pain for over a week for something that is entirely created 100% by the poor fit of the crown he put in to begin with???? A week? I try to put forth a stiff upper lip and deal with it, meanwhile it’s just a cycle of this bleeding flamimg sore that is in constant pain and renders eating painful and life miserable. Also, because the crown is so freakishly large and bulges out, a shelf is created where food traps on the gum line in the back every time I eat, and really the only way to get it out is to put my finger back there, over the shelf, and push out the food myself. Disgusting and unhygienic.

Wednesday, in absolute misery, I call again to beg for mercy and help sooner than next Monday evening. Surprise, my phone call goes direct to voicemail. I leave a voicemail explaining the situation and the wait time that I find to be unacceptable, and end with a plea for help. I get a call the next morning and the dentist gruffly agrees to see me at 3.50pm Thursday, but I’d have to get there and wait a while. Well then why tell me a precise time if it’s meaningless? So I wait an hour while being treated as a pariah in the office and I’m then seen. Dr. Miller sands the crown down again for the umpteenth time and I honestly notice no difference in either the bulky size or the food trap shelf in the back. After expressing my concern and explaining how far the crown sticks out in all directions past where it should, past where the natural tooth DID (or were the identical tooth on the opposite side DOES), he affirms that he won’t do anything else past what he did and refuses to fix it with a proper fitting crown, instead saying that the existing crown was the perfect size for my space. He offered to have me come back Monday and he’d take the crown off but wouldn’t replace it (so I’d just have the crown off, with my fragile root-canalled natural tooth exposed to the elements). He prescribed me peridex for the intolerable mouth sores, and inflamed gums and I’m none too pleased to hear that the side effect is it stains my teeth. So you put in a freakishly large crown, it causes mouth sores and messes up my bite, completely owing to its size. The sores won’t heal, are very painful, and my doctor is talking pre-cancer. And you won’t fix your own awful work. And the only thing you give me to help me will stain my teeth. At this point, Dr. Miller finds that another patient in another room is more important than am I, and leaves me abruptly when he decided the conversation was over. I left upset and in tears.

I had paid full-blown retail for 2 crowns which both had the same problem : so abnormally large as to cause a wave of secondary problems. Once the crowns were paid for, the doctor was not at all interested in helping me through the after-effects of their shoddy work. Why?? I had paid fair value for a crown that fits in my mouth and had received it neither time. I had never had a crown before in my life, and thought the first one was an outlier, but the second one was clearly a pattern. The doctor did fix the more egregious of the two crowns, but left to the ravages of time, the less egregious one had become the most. I can’t afford to buy a new crown to replace the one that is still ill-fitting and hurting the surrounding cheek and gum tissue. I’m in so much pain and see no alternatives that I can do right now.

So I do believe in the value of restorative dentistry, but both crowns I’ve had done by Dr. Miller have been a pricey, agonizing hell on earth.

And what resources have I to get a resolution? Either a replacement to actually fit my mouth which is what I paid for, or my money back so that I can get a competent dentist to correct it. It’s not just that he gets to walk away with the price I paid and I walk away in worse shape than I was, after I tried to make it work for so so long. It’s not right to be put on the doctor’s pay no mind list and treated like a pariah after the service is paid in full.

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Replies (6)

March 29, 2018
You have alternatives, travel abroad could be a great idea. I had a great work in Latin American for a fraction of what I had to pay in US. Dentistry is great in Brazil, Colombia , Mexico and Peru, and. Zirconium crown can costs around 300 dollars in a fancy dental office.
April 1, 2018
Actually, I had TERRIBLE work recently done in Mexico. Still an ongoing nightmare. Complete set of crowns came back ENORMOUSLY LARGE, at US$300 a pop and talked into terrible color - I accept responsibility for changing my mind on his advice - I change my mind. On his advice. My bad. I really shouldn't have continued with the man. Everyone said they looked grey and yellow in any light other than direct sunlight shining on them. I could post a photo. They were revolting. My daughters finally told me that they thought they were pretty bad, after trying to tell me positive things about them for a few days. Worse than the aesthetics though, was the fact that I was also in acute pain and couldn't close my mouth. My lips disappeared as they couldn't stretch to smile over them. I actually found it hard to breathe at night because they were stopping the natural air flow and I found it hard to swallow - but the worst thing was the pain in my ears - could NOT close my mouth they were so large and so bulky - and my ear ache was TERRIBLE!!. Dentist felt he had to take some responsibility, so .... we paid again!! $200 per crown, full set. As soon as I saw them I said, they looked still too big. He argued and said they were beautiful and they could be adjusted. I said again on the mold on the table they STILL looked too big and I wasn't comfortable putting them in; again he said they would fit much, much better and he could make any adjustments. I just didn't know what I was looking at correctly because I wasn't a dentist. (At least they were white this time). Put them in - mouth completely numb at this point - he assured me they could be adjusted to the correct size - WRONG. No discernible difference in length or bulkiness. Ear ache instantaneous as soon as pain killers wore off. Could NOT close my mouth again. Could NOT take a bite. Could not put my head on it's side without literally, collapsing in hallway near laundry (had bent down to load front loader washing machine). Such agony! Such pain killers! Such MISERY! Such LIES! Rang him numerous times - he said it would settle down and could only see me in between visits and was surprised I was in so much pain. I had to wait a month. I had to keep going back to Mexico. Was questioned at border - costly - had to stay in hotel. He said he had done this before - clearly NOT! LIES! So now I am up to $500 per crown, and they are incredibly painful and I am about to go insane. I can't eat, sleep or even walk. So. Dentist says he will fix front upper six for free! I feel bad and say he can't do that, he has just had a baby. No, no, he will do it. As soon as I saw the front six on the mold, I ask him if the color was different - because it looked different - so are they made of the same thing? Yes, yes, he assures me - EXACTLY the same porcelain. LIES! He fits them - they are smaller and need posts now because he adjusts the amount of original stump he takes off - BUT front tooth on right and one next to it are IMPOSSIBLE to eat on. I can't even take gentle, slow bit of sponge cake. I develop infection all around those two teeth on gums - and a ball of infection on lower jaw under pre-existing implant he knocked off, to change. Would only give me five days antibiotics - which did NOTHIGN apart from show bacteria what shape to adjust to, to survive. Told me ball of pus on jaw was from perfectly good molar BEHIND ball, and behind implant. I told him that tooth wasn't even sore. He argued. I argued. He said again, he was the dentist. He drills through the crown and discovers - perfectly healthy tooth. Fills crown with temporary filing material and I still have ball of pus there, infection in upper gums with lots of spots everywhere, and now crown with hole and temporary filling. And I have to leave Mexico again after spending weeks there visiting almost daily or every second day, and running up a $3,500 hotel fee. I think now, the man is a [RS bleep]. Long and short, return to LA - wanted to join UCLA General School of Dentistry program - paid for x-rays and upper front six he replaced out of his own pocket, appear not to show up in -x-rays as crowns. Was rejected from program because I am not American - Australian who lives on boat - and UCLA would take too long with my Visa, so have to go BACK to Australia; rent a place there, air tickets; have already booked into my dentist and have my own dentist re-xray and tell me exactly what needs to be done. I am STILL on antibiotics I needed to get when I left Mexico; I STILL can't eat anything hard; and I STILL am on 3-4 pain killers over a 24 hour period. I STILL can't eat cold and some warm drinks etc and I STILL have extra long molars and can't close my mouth properly. He offered to my husband to pull out crowns and replace 'out of his own pocket' for a THIRD time (or third and a half time for the front six) but now we have in our possession the x-rays from UCLA, and we can see the front six he just previously replaced, don't show up white like the other crowns do - we are sooooooo suspicious that they are simply filling material. I feel sooooooooo conned. We asked honest questions - read reviews (honestly - .... cannot say for sure whether reviews were for full sets or just 'crowns' as in one at a time; but for sure, he didn't have a CLUE what he was doing. Not a CLUE. ) Also, he lied. Time and time again. He said "I gave you a new smile" but - I didn't ask for a new 'smile'. I asked for new teeth. I assumed they would be the same shape and size as my old, but better. White and no acid erosion at the gum line. They came out twice the size, twice as thick - literally! two times over - he wouldn't listen to a thing I said and even argued and I was proven right about the size, shape, feel, pain and infection and now infected sub-standard weird substance and two that I feel sensation in and can't even bite with. No bread, cake, corn, fruit - nothing. It's terrible!! I told him again and again and he said it would settle down - and to please stop googling, because he's the dentist. I honestly thought he was a nice guy - and listened and asked a lot of questions and then more questions and on and on - but I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in him now, and although I had a fear of dentists before - now I think I have a complete full blown phobia. BE CAREFUL!! Local doctor here who prescribed more antibiotics said the five days was ridiculous! That could actually do more harm than good. I may actually have to face the thought that I need all of them ripped out and replaced - I could actually lose every single tooth in my mouth just to stop the mis-alignment - I just don't know. I will find out in June and it could take months of treatments. It could also take a bank loan and another $30,000 on top of the nearly $20,000 it's cost (AUD including hotel room and food, transport etc). It's horrifying. Really horrifying. I feel like I've had an out of body experience and it's not really happening to me. I wish it wasn't. I just wish. it. wasn't.
April 21, 2018
There are many great dental colleges who sometimes do all kinds of procedures at a fraction of cost . Plus they take more time and care.
My nephew had great results from a leading university for free.
April 21, 2018
Get a refund if you’re lucky. You may have to do some research and have consultations with a cosmetic dentist who specializes in restorative dentistry.
Too bad you wasted so much time and endured pain , discomfort, mental anguish, emotional distress and loss of self esteem due to this.
I’m sure this dentist would prefer to do the right thing instead of being the focus of this site seen by so many!
April 22, 2018
Damn...what a mess. Years ago I had a horrible situation with a Dr. Miller in NC. Must be the name. How did you pay for your crowns? If it was a credit card you could always deal with them last resort. Otherwise I would continue to demand the issue is fixed to YOUR liking not HIS. Your the customer and patient here. Sorry your going threw such a rough time. Good luck
April 22, 2018
After comparing your xrays to mine because I had the same tooth done on the other side #15 second molar your crown is WAY too big. Its supposed to be comparable to your other teeth. That is NOT acceptable. You have a major food trap on the backside of the tooth at the margin thats going to lead to decay. At this points it's obvious he either 1. Doesnt know how to do proper impressions or 2. Uses a cheap lab. I would request he take off crowns, replace with temps and refund you at least the crown which btw he can return to his lab for a full refund dont let him kid you. Thats common practice. I have had multiple ill fittiing crowns sent back and got new ones.