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Breast Lift and Implants with Dr Narongdej - Thailand

UPDATED FROM B00bies14
6 months post

Infection/overview of my experience

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WORTH IT$6,000
I just thought that I should post a quick summary of my experience for girls who are coming on here to see if Thailand is a good option for them or not. I don't want people to have to scroll through my epic story. So, in summary:
-I went through Destination Beauty with Doctor Narongdej for implants/lift on the 6th December 2014
-I had a semi crappy experience. He did not act like he cared, no one ever held my hand and told me it was okay when I was nervous, I didn't even get to see my surgeon before I went under, he didn't ask all of my questions and spent hardly any time with me, all in all probably about 15 minutes (aside from the surgery)
-I thought everything was fine, but not long after returning to Perth my left nipple and breast were inflamed, red and sore. I thought this was just sitting stiches at first (as a few came out). Turns out it was early signs of infection. I'd had it for a while before I even noticed as when I emailed destination beauty with photos they said it was all normal and was just the stitches. I went and saw a surgeon in Perth and he confirmed my infection
-I have been on/off antibiotics for months now. Just when I think it's gone, it comes back again and I'm at square one
-Upon trying to pinpoint why I got an infection, I think it's because when my stitches were taken out I was not given any dressings to cover the open wounds (I was told that I didn't need one and they would heal by themselves- at this point I was stupid and naive and trusted their advice). I was therefore walking around public places in Thailand and Australia with open wounds that could easily come in contact with bacteria (especially in places like the airport)
-I am not happy with my results. My nipples are uneven and the infection has caused my scaring to be horrendous
-Majority of the time my boobs are sore, red and uncomfortable
-I am going to have them redone hopefully next year (I need to get the money first)
-My whole experience in Thailand cost me about $8000-9000 all up, but because of the problems I will now need to spend an additional $10000 or more here in Australia to get them fixed and get rid of the infection. Not to mention the copious amount of $$ I've spent on seeing doctors and surgeons here in Australia
-Since coming back to Australia, I have seen my own friends and others subject to horrors as a result from Thailand surgery (one of my friends went through Doctor Kasemsak at destination beauty and was absolutely butchered by him, she needed to get them redone and the surgeon in Australia found out her implants were fake copies!! And also said her case was one of the worst he's seen)
-I want to warn girls that Thailand IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION. Disregard the good stories you hear because I guarantee there's double the amount of horror stories to make up for it, people are just too scared to share their bad experiences for fear of judgement and the same old "that's what you get for going to Thailand comments" (trust me, I've experienced them first hand). Yes, you save money. But there is a higher chance of something going wrong resulting in spending DOUBLE you would have if you just had it done in your home town
-PLEASE reconsider, I wish someone had told me before I went. I don't even know if I would have listened as I was in denial, but please listen to me. As a normal, sensible young girl I want others to learn from my mistake

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Replies (5)

B
June 5, 2015
Wait and save for the extra $$ to have surgery at home girls!
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T
June 5, 2015

Thanks for sharing your story. It will be helpful to others considering where to get surgery.

B
June 6, 2015
My pleasure :) that's what I'm hoping x
SD
June 6, 2015
Good on you for caring for others. Hope you're able to get all the help you need, will say a little prayer for you.
B
June 7, 2015
Thank you :)
1
September 17, 2015
We're these done in Phuket at Piac ?
B
September 18, 2015
Nah in Bangkok at Piyavate :)
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G
September 18, 2015
Hey, I had the exact same experience as you! Same surgeon, hospital, waking up not breathing, and a year later I was still spitting stitches, I would not have the surgery done abroad again.
B
September 18, 2015
Wow that's crazy! I'm no longer spitting stitches and the infection is gone but my scarring is now horrible thanks to the infection and my boobs are still quite sore and tender
UPDATED FROM B00bies14
6 months post

Update!

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So I am still struggling with infection and breast pain. I have taken antibiotics several times and the redness and pain seems to go away for a little while, but then once I'm off them it comes back again. The pain in my breasts is an every day thing. It's not overly unbearable but I defenately know something is wrong in there, I know my body and I am 6 months post op, sometimes it feels like I've only just left the operating theatre! I have been thinking about the beginning signs of infection and I think it may have started a week or so after I got back. It might be because when I got my stitches taken out in Thailand, I was told that I didn't need to cover the open wounds and that they will just heal by themselves. My theory is that walking around without them covered would leave room for infection, especially because I was walking around the airport, a major carrier for germs and bacteria! Anyway I want to get them redone here in Australia because I can't stand having boobs that don't feel right, are sore and inflamed. Also I am really not happy with my nipple shape either, they are blatantly uneven and at different heights. This is something I would overlook if I didn't have infection but I figured I might as well get that fix if I'm going under again. It just saddens me because I really did think I would be fine over there. The gist of it is that the health care in Australia is a hell of a lot better. The surgeons care about you more, the hospitals are cleaner and better quality and you are less subject to harmful bacteria as it is a cleaner environment. Majority of men and women go over there for the price, I did too. However you risk spending double or even triple than you would have if you just did it in your home country when something goes wrong. My experience isn't the worst one either, I have heard and seen many more terrible stories than my own. I am just finding the courage to share it with you all so that you can make informed decisions. If you do still want to go to Thailand, please do your research. I thought I did mine and look where it got me.
P.s I'm not uploading photos as not much has changed since my last ones, they are just a bit more red

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June 4, 2015
I feel so sad reading your story,I had a face/neck lift in Malaysia as the price was 3 times higher at home(also Australia),my results are great but I do know what you mean about aftercare even for little questions,I was lucky and had no issues but if I was to do more surgery I would seriously think about doing it in Aus ,hope everything works out hun,love & hugs to you [RS bleep]
B
June 4, 2015
Yeah it would defenately be easier and more comfortable getting them at home. Thank you so much :) [RS bleep]
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L
June 5, 2015
Wow. I have no redness or signs of infection but yes I can relate to the soreness! I am taking painkillers still every night to get a decent sleep, but I am only 3 1/2 weeks post op.
B
June 5, 2015
Glad everything went well for you then! Make sure you monitor yourself and as soon as something's not right get onto antibiotics asap just in case :) Yeah I was in pain still at that time as well but I defenately shouldn't be having it 6 months on!
B
June 5, 2015
How did you find Dr N?
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L
June 6, 2015
He was very friendly and upfront and honest.
B
June 6, 2015
That's good
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August 18, 2015
i had pain six months on with my implants but I'm a year post and so much better healing takes time :)
UPDATED FROM B00bies14
3 months post

Destination Beauty Thailand- Infection.

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B00bies14

Everything was going fine with my boobs after surgery through destination beauty, until it wasn't. My boobs are infected, seems to be mainly around the nipple incision line. I dont know exactly what caused the infection but I am fairly sure my body was having trouble dissolving the stitches (they use very cheap dissolvable ones over there), which resulted in them spitting. The spitting stitches caused the slight openings around the nipple and bacteria must have gotten in, resulting in an infection. I am currently on antibiotics, so I have to wait and see what will happen as I am not sure if the implant is infected. If it is then I will have to fork out lots of money to have them removed here in Australia, as there is no way I am going back to Thailand. My nipples are also not symmetrical and are different sizes and shapes which I am unhappy about.


All in all I want to warn everyone about going to Thailand. I know it seems all well and good on paper, as a young girl with saggy and deflated boobs all I wanted was to be confident and happy with my body. Being a uni student it was near impossible for me to afford the implants AND lift in Australia, so Thailand seemed the best place to go. You always hear stories like "my friend went there and hers look great", you think you've done your research and that everything will be fine. Looking back now I realise how stupid my decision was and if I can deter at least one person from going then I will be happy. My infection is a result of the lack of aftercare that exists when you have surgery abroad. I didnt know what signs or symptoms to look for in terms of an infection (I wasnt told), and its a struggle finding surgeons here in Australia that will see you if they know you've been to Thailand. When I realised that something was wrong I saw the same surgeon that had recently fixed my friends botched Thailand job, and he proceeded to tell me all the horror cases he had seen from other girls that had been to Thailand. One girl almost died on the table when undergoing liposuction, she had to get several blood transfusions and then when she woke up they STILL wanted to go ahead with putting implants in the next day because they didnt want to refund the money she had already paid. Lucky she had her wits about her and refused to do the procedure, which most likely would have killed her. She also ended up with Hepatitis C from the transfusion. Moral of the story, they dont care about your health or wellbeing they only want your money. He also told me that Thailand is host to a lot of different bacteria, and although hospitals may claim to be 5 star, you cant be completely sure of how clean the environment and materials are. He see's a lot of girls come back with infections that are difficult to fix with antibiotics due to the medication here not catering for the particular strain of bacteria. Some girls are on and off medication for up to a year in some cases trying to rid the infection (i really hope this doesn't happen to me)! Honestly they cut a lot of costs over there and you end up getting cheap meds and cheap medical care. My friend recently had her boobs done here in Australia and I was shocked as to how thorough and on the ball they were with her, as I didnt receive anywhere near as good of care as she did. I know the cost is higher but it makes everything so much safer. Your health and wellbeing does not have a price tag.

You may think you're cutting costs but it will end up costing you ten times more to fix the problems you are more likely to have from going abroad. I had to get a 8 grand loan to get mine done in Thailand, and now I am potentially looking at another 10+ grand debt if my implants are infected. Thats almost 20 grand in debt and im only 21! If I could go back in time I would tell myself to wait and save until I have the money to get it done here in Australia, where the health care is excellent and I am in my comfort zone, with my surgeon a short drive away if anything goes wrong or I have any questions. PLEASE head my warning its not worth the cost cutting

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B
March 16, 2015
If you are still considering going to Thailand please make sure your surgeon is board certified! There are many over there practicing uncertified
B
March 16, 2015
I'm not here to bash thailand I'm here to warn girls that it's not worth the risk! I wish I found a post like this before I went
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L
March 16, 2015
argh i am so confused now. I am so grateful for this site. How long after surgery was it before your infection popped up?
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L
March 16, 2015
Thanks for sharing, although from looking at your pictures i am still struggling to see what the issue is. Infections are common and the fact that your infection showed up later and not immediately, suggests to me that it was not a result from the surgery itself....I have had surgery in Australia and have also been hospitalised in Australia for several weeks and i must admit, my Australian experiences were not overly positive either. I still think your breasts look great in the photos and infection only appears to be minor and managable with medication!!! Please correct me if I'm wrong!!!!
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March 17, 2015
I did not ever say that it was a result from surgery, I was saying I'm not sure what caused the infection but the surgeon here in Australia indicated that the stitches they use in Thailand are not good quality, hence my bodies inability to break them down, resulting in a lot of spitting stiches (which im still getting), then an infection. Since returning to australia I have seen my friend (who went with destination beauty) have reconstructive surgery as a result of bad surgery. Her implants were fake copies and her Thai surgeon had hacked her body to the point where she didn't even have two separate implant pockets, they were all one!!! Never in my post did I diss my actual surgery or my surgeon, I'm just trying to warn girls that the risks of going to thailand is that you are more prone to infection and there is poor aftercare. Also since returning to perth I have heard many bad stories
B
March 17, 2015
Which have made me question my decision and anyone else's to go abroad. My infection is potentially manageable but if it does not go away then I will need additional surgery. At the end of the day it's yoir life and your decision, it's lucky that Dr Narondgej is one of the good ones. I am trying to warn girls about the cons of going as there are many surgeons who do not know what they are doing
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L
March 17, 2015
thankyou for all your feedback!!!! It certainly helps to look at all angles. Was your friend with the fake copies also with Destination Beauty and Dr Nj?
B
March 18, 2015
Yeah she was with destination beauty in Bangkok at Piyavate hospital as well. She went with Dr Kasemsak who is just a horrible surgeon from what I've seen :/
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T
March 16, 2015

Thanks for sharing your story. I'm sorry you had experienced this. What was the end result, did your infection clear up and did you move forward with a revision?

B
March 17, 2015
I only posted this yesterday so I have to wait and see still :) I will repost when more news comes
B
March 17, 2015
I had problems with spitting stiches from the start pretty much. I tried my best to manage them but they just won't dissolve :( I can still feel some of them sitting on the surface of my incisions. The infection started about a month ago
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L
March 17, 2015
p.s your post made me seek out some more local quotes, but they were all like an extra $10,000 to have it done in Australia! That is the differance between taking the risk or not getting it done at all. I'm almost 40, I'm taking the risk!
B
March 18, 2015
Yeah that's usually what makes people go, the price! Just seeing what I've seen since coming back makes me want to stop as many girls from going as possible because the risks are just two high. But at the end of the day it's your decision and I really hope everything goes well for you
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F
May 6, 2015
Lynne, you should check out instanbul in turkey!!! Yes, its a longer flight to london but the surgery is much much cheaper and of higher health standards. I'm in brisbane and including airfare and accommodation it cost me $8050 ($950 from bris to london, $150 from london to instanbul, $820 from istanbul back to bris). I consulted through comfort zone surgery and there are quite a few reviews on them on here! I got a little holiday out of the time before i went to turkey too :)