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Lip Lift Experience in Sugar Land, TX ( Not Recommending)
UPDATED FROM HeyJani
2 months post
Post 5~6 Weeks
$3,600
Here's the updated pics (someone asked :) ).
I still have the same problems, one side of the scar is pretty ugly, and it has bumps on the stitch area (undissolved stich?). It feels hard to the touch. I showed Elisa and she said it can take awhile to heal ( she texted me to check up)....
The rippling of my smile line is getting much better - but it's still horribly noticeable and makes me feel horribly conscious when I smile, so I try not to smile as much.
My nose is still swollen but they're starting to look like my old nose, so no complaint there - it's so normal looking now that even I can't tell I had complained a few months back. So if your nose is looking out of wack - it'll go back to normal soon! :)
The shortened distance between my nose and lips are barely noticeable, it looks the same - even to me, I guess the swelling is really going down now?
All in all, I just want the scars and the rippling to go away so I can just forget that I ever did this.
I still have the same problems, one side of the scar is pretty ugly, and it has bumps on the stitch area (undissolved stich?). It feels hard to the touch. I showed Elisa and she said it can take awhile to heal ( she texted me to check up)....
The rippling of my smile line is getting much better - but it's still horribly noticeable and makes me feel horribly conscious when I smile, so I try not to smile as much.
My nose is still swollen but they're starting to look like my old nose, so no complaint there - it's so normal looking now that even I can't tell I had complained a few months back. So if your nose is looking out of wack - it'll go back to normal soon! :)
The shortened distance between my nose and lips are barely noticeable, it looks the same - even to me, I guess the swelling is really going down now?
All in all, I just want the scars and the rippling to go away so I can just forget that I ever did this.
UPDATED FROM HeyJani
17 days post
Not too happy that I look the same after almost $4k + 2 weeks off work...
Before & After side by side. PO 17
Nothings changed, still have wrinkled smile, nose distortion seems to be getting better though.
My scar seems to be getting redder, which is normal...
Nothings changed, still have wrinkled smile, nose distortion seems to be getting better though.
My scar seems to be getting redder, which is normal...
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M
July 11, 2015
I see an obvious difference. Your skin is tighter, you have more tooth show, your protein is shorter. Overall: your mouth looks younger.
Perhaps the difference isn't as drastic as you would have hoped but it is definitely noticeable in my opinion.
Hope that helps!
Perhaps the difference isn't as drastic as you would have hoped but it is definitely noticeable in my opinion.
Hope that helps!
M
BS
H
July 11, 2015
You're right. I didn't get what I asked for though.
I know it's hard to tell by just looking at the photos, but my skin looks the same. In the Before picture, the light was shining from my side, while in the after picture the light is shining from the front, so it was more forgiving on my skin.
One area, next the nose, was pulled too tight, so now there is wrinkling when I smile.
There is, of course, some shortening, however, its not what I asked for. I requested a "drastic" change. I even took photos. He looked at them, marked my face and we did the surgery. No further discussion.
If what I wanted wasn't possible, then he, as a reputable doctor, should have discussed it with me.
If he had told me then that my results would be this subtle, then I would've walked out. Absolutely. The scars and the risk of the complications (nose distortion, etc) wouldn't have been worth it for me personally.
Its like going to the doc to get your boobs done. You want a full C cup, the doc without discussing it with you, and against your wishes, give you a B size boobs because it's more natural looking and less risky. How happy with you be? And to revise, there is a fee...
I know it's hard to tell by just looking at the photos, but my skin looks the same. In the Before picture, the light was shining from my side, while in the after picture the light is shining from the front, so it was more forgiving on my skin.
One area, next the nose, was pulled too tight, so now there is wrinkling when I smile.
There is, of course, some shortening, however, its not what I asked for. I requested a "drastic" change. I even took photos. He looked at them, marked my face and we did the surgery. No further discussion.
If what I wanted wasn't possible, then he, as a reputable doctor, should have discussed it with me.
If he had told me then that my results would be this subtle, then I would've walked out. Absolutely. The scars and the risk of the complications (nose distortion, etc) wouldn't have been worth it for me personally.
Its like going to the doc to get your boobs done. You want a full C cup, the doc without discussing it with you, and against your wishes, give you a B size boobs because it's more natural looking and less risky. How happy with you be? And to revise, there is a fee...

BL
July 11, 2015
I'm really glad that I know this now. Maybe the risk isn't worth it after all....thanks for sharing your experience.
H
BS
July 12, 2015
I see your point. I guess you assumed the 4mm he took off would give you the dramatic look you requested. And he didn't understand what you meant by dramatic. Your experience is a good reminder to have very detailed discussions with PSs about what we expect, although from what you write, it sounds like you thought you were very clear. Frustrating.
Still, wait awhile before making a final judgement on the scar and distortion. And as you say, if you have a scar and you feel the final result isn't as dramatic as you want, you can always re-do it one day.
The lip lift is a controversial procedure.
I'm still rooting for you.
Have you tried video taping yourself (sounds weird) when talking to see if the distortion is obvious? Just do it on your computer and play back. Then...step away from the mirror. The worst is when you find yourself looking in the mirror too much, counting the seconds until you see progress.
Still, wait awhile before making a final judgement on the scar and distortion. And as you say, if you have a scar and you feel the final result isn't as dramatic as you want, you can always re-do it one day.
The lip lift is a controversial procedure.
I'm still rooting for you.
Have you tried video taping yourself (sounds weird) when talking to see if the distortion is obvious? Just do it on your computer and play back. Then...step away from the mirror. The worst is when you find yourself looking in the mirror too much, counting the seconds until you see progress.

C
July 11, 2015
there is a difference but you probably were looking for a bigger result so will you do a revision? and will you go back to the same doctor ?
H
July 11, 2015
Yes, I was looking for a drastic change, why risk scars if the results look like what you can do with a lip liner.
And I don't know if I will go to the same doctor. I told Elisa, the PA, that it wasnt short enough 4 days after the surgery. She told me I was still swollen and it'll get better. My nose is still swollen that's true, but I doubt there's going to be a huge difference months down the line. Everyone at the office, including the doctor, are super friendly though....
And I don't know if I will go to the same doctor. I told Elisa, the PA, that it wasnt short enough 4 days after the surgery. She told me I was still swollen and it'll get better. My nose is still swollen that's true, but I doubt there's going to be a huge difference months down the line. Everyone at the office, including the doctor, are super friendly though....

C
July 11, 2015
I just went to a doctor in southern California that doesn't recommend this procedure , I have a family member who is a dentist so I will be asking his opinion

M
August 3, 2015
Hi Cheryl...Can you elaborate on why this doctor in southern California doesn't recommend this procedure? I have a long philtrum and at the moment keen to get this done...but there seems to have some contention on the benefits of this procedure?

C
August 5, 2015
Hi Mel , he doesn't feel the scare in the middle of your face will look good and that is center of your face. Furthermore intersting enough I live one hour to hour and half from Beverly Hills ( he further states he doesn't get any requests for this) so i guess the inland empire is by the times. so after reading a further review about a gentleman talking about the shape of your nose, sills etc. could make a difference in your outcome I decided it wasn't worth changing those possible features for something possiblely worst . I guess it has scarred me at this point and I think my lips being thin bothers me more than a longer philtrum so I am leaning towards lip implants at this point but not sure about these either since a lot of doctors comments are negative about lip implants and fat transfer don't last more than a few years in your lips . decisions decisions ... don't know if this helped you any in your decision keep me posted
BS
July 11, 2015
There is an obvious difference. Your philtrum is shorter and there is more tooth show. The difference is subtle, more balanced. Perhaps you wanted something more dramatic. You always have the option of going back another time to get more taken off. It is far, far better to be conservative with this operation. Give yourself a YEAR to fully heal, see how the scar goes (and don't forget to get your scar lasered a few times and to watch for any pulling down of your nostrils.) Once you have the true final result, than you should make a decision about whether to go again. Truly, I'd rather pay double for 2 operations to get the result I want and testing for how my body responds than one dramatic operation and find that I've done something that I can't undo.
H
July 11, 2015
Actually, if he had told me I will need 2 surgeries, I wouldn't have done it. No way. I did this against a top surgeon's advice ( I went to do a consult in Korea (plastic surgery capital)).
And by the way, I just love your fat graff work! I am considering it instead of getting fillers.
And by the way, I just love your fat graff work! I am considering it instead of getting fillers.
BS
July 12, 2015
The fat grafting I have had done has been great. I did it to my hands 5 years earlier by the same doctor. I had Madonna's veiny hands from aging and from decades of weight training. Now my hands look normal. No one -- not even plastic surgeons -- can guess what I have had done to my hands, thanks to the subtle work of the doctor I saw. I'm a big believer in doing it -- conservatively. Very conservatively.
T
July 11, 2015
Sometimes its hard to be objective analyzing your own results. We are all very hard on ourselves. I think you look fantastic and can see the 4 mm difference in your before and after pics! I am considering going to Dr. Horndeski as my nose to lip distance is 20 mm! Check out my before from C02 laser. Did you take a taxi to his office from the airport or did you arrange that yourself? Do you think its practical from a pain and grogginess standpoint to fly in/out same day? Thanks in advance for your feedback. Even if you decide on a revision I still think you look fantastic now :) Hang in there!
H
July 11, 2015
Aw thank you, Tammy.
Someone from the office, Jena, came to pick me up. But this service wasn't offered until I brought it up, so be sure to ask.
Truly though, EVERYONE from this office is so warm and welcoming! And it was comforting having someone from the office guide me around Texas, since I've never been there before and I went to TX alone.
And yes, IMHO, you should stay over 1 night "just in case" your numbing wears off too quickly.
Jena said most people leave right afterwards but I couldn't have, but everyone reacts differently to local. My dentist has a hard time keeping me numb too lol.
Anyhoo, my local wore off as I was getting off the table and by the time I got in the car, I was in pain. The local doesn't make you groggy, it's the same feeling you get when your dentist numbs you. It starts tingling when it wears off, right? ... I got that tingling feeling as he was sewing me up. Make sure to take your meds then.
No way in hell I could've boarded my flight with my bloody gauge, in pain and alone. The pain the next day is VERY manageable because you'll be on pain meds. Make sure to be on top of that too. Don't wait until you're in pain to take them, then it's going to be too late.
I think a lip lift would give you a youthful look. If you want a drastic change be sure to discuss it with him, take pics so you're both on the same page. Discuss the revision fee, if there will be one BEFORE the surgery! Confirm everything before the surgery!
Looking forward to seeing your PO! :D
Someone from the office, Jena, came to pick me up. But this service wasn't offered until I brought it up, so be sure to ask.
Truly though, EVERYONE from this office is so warm and welcoming! And it was comforting having someone from the office guide me around Texas, since I've never been there before and I went to TX alone.
And yes, IMHO, you should stay over 1 night "just in case" your numbing wears off too quickly.
Jena said most people leave right afterwards but I couldn't have, but everyone reacts differently to local. My dentist has a hard time keeping me numb too lol.
Anyhoo, my local wore off as I was getting off the table and by the time I got in the car, I was in pain. The local doesn't make you groggy, it's the same feeling you get when your dentist numbs you. It starts tingling when it wears off, right? ... I got that tingling feeling as he was sewing me up. Make sure to take your meds then.
No way in hell I could've boarded my flight with my bloody gauge, in pain and alone. The pain the next day is VERY manageable because you'll be on pain meds. Make sure to be on top of that too. Don't wait until you're in pain to take them, then it's going to be too late.
I think a lip lift would give you a youthful look. If you want a drastic change be sure to discuss it with him, take pics so you're both on the same page. Discuss the revision fee, if there will be one BEFORE the surgery! Confirm everything before the surgery!
Looking forward to seeing your PO! :D
H
T
S
July 11, 2015
I like that you philtrum looks shorter, and your scarring seems well hidden - I feel like your results are slightly encouraging for me to maybe get a lip lift (my lips in my opinion have the same shape as your pre-photo). I think this subtle difference in philtrum length is pretty, and I believe its the sum of all your facial features that make you pretty, not just the lips. However, I can understand how you feel and I have similar concerns about changing my lips shape - The lip lift seems to be a magic bullet for some patients and not others. I think for some patients, including myself, the lip lift needs to be done in conjunction with fat transfer, implants, v-y implants, or corner lip lifts to get the desired shape, as a lip lift doesn't really change the shape of the lip as much as it changes the length of upper lip. Just curious, but what in particular did you not like about your after result (sides of lip?lip shape?) I hope you can find the solution you are looking for, and thank you for your photo updates!
H
July 13, 2015
It's all about balance, yes. :)
As for your question; what in particular did you not like about your after result (sides of lip?lip shape?)
I took photos and showed him how short I wanted the distance to be, he did what he wanted instead.
Actually, if that's was all, I would just swallow it and leave it at that. However, my smile is screwed up. When I talk, there is an odd wrinkling-pulling on 1 side, and one of my nose is slightly lower and it doesn't tuck in as much as before. When I smile, instead of 1 creases on each side of my mouth, I now have 3 creases.
One other thing, because 1 side of my nose wasn't sewn properly, it's going to scar badly. All of this is what can happen to you. Be sure to weigh the pros and cons and go to the right doctor. If I had actually gotten what I had wanted, then maybe I wouldn't regret it so much.
As for your question; what in particular did you not like about your after result (sides of lip?lip shape?)
I took photos and showed him how short I wanted the distance to be, he did what he wanted instead.
Actually, if that's was all, I would just swallow it and leave it at that. However, my smile is screwed up. When I talk, there is an odd wrinkling-pulling on 1 side, and one of my nose is slightly lower and it doesn't tuck in as much as before. When I smile, instead of 1 creases on each side of my mouth, I now have 3 creases.
One other thing, because 1 side of my nose wasn't sewn properly, it's going to scar badly. All of this is what can happen to you. Be sure to weigh the pros and cons and go to the right doctor. If I had actually gotten what I had wanted, then maybe I wouldn't regret it so much.
H
July 13, 2015
Remember, it's hard to see it in the photos. My mouth is at rest. When you're talking and smiling, your mouth area is constantly in motion and this is when you can see it. I'm telling you and other people this, so know THIS can happen.
L
July 22, 2015
You are correct. I had a muscle hemming lip lift that left me with a distorted smile and I look very odd when I animate. My complications had to do with the muscle being operated on besides the skin. I really hope things resolve for you. I see what you are talking about. Overall, I am very impressed with this doctors results and I love that he is cautious. It is much better to remove less than more. You can always have more removed but you cannot put it back. My prayers are with you.
UPDATED FROM HeyJani
12 days post
Post 12th Day
Updated photos. Post 12 - I'm still swollen.
I have really good scars on 1 side. The line is TINY and it blends absolutely perfectly with my nose fold.
But this side's nostril doesn't tuck in as much after the surgery. It flares out more, and there seems to be a weird rippling happening to my smile line when I smile. It's really noticeable and ugly. Never mind the scar, who wouldn't notice that your smile line has wrinkles- like you had a face lift that were pulled weird? I'm hoping this is all because my nose is swollen still...
My bad scar side has no problems when I smile but the scar is going to be thick. There is a gap between the nose fold and where the skin was cut. I think the stitch didn't hold the skin together while it was healing...
My infection is healing up well. I still have bumps but they're going away. I'm almost done with my antibiotics. I can smile -sort of, but 1 side - the side with the bad scar - can still be painful when I open my mouth too wide to eat.
I totally forgot to take the front picture without smiling today, but I'll update you guys in a month or so.
I have really good scars on 1 side. The line is TINY and it blends absolutely perfectly with my nose fold.
But this side's nostril doesn't tuck in as much after the surgery. It flares out more, and there seems to be a weird rippling happening to my smile line when I smile. It's really noticeable and ugly. Never mind the scar, who wouldn't notice that your smile line has wrinkles- like you had a face lift that were pulled weird? I'm hoping this is all because my nose is swollen still...
My bad scar side has no problems when I smile but the scar is going to be thick. There is a gap between the nose fold and where the skin was cut. I think the stitch didn't hold the skin together while it was healing...
My infection is healing up well. I still have bumps but they're going away. I'm almost done with my antibiotics. I can smile -sort of, but 1 side - the side with the bad scar - can still be painful when I open my mouth too wide to eat.
I totally forgot to take the front picture without smiling today, but I'll update you guys in a month or so.
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A
July 5, 2015
I think it takes a few months to heal from this, not weeks. Everyone is different. I still think you look good for 2 weeks post op. If one side hurts more than the other I wonder if it may be an infection on the bad side. If this does not heal by the time you are done with your antibiotics then I recommend getting the area looked at by a doctor. Some infections need a different kind of antibiotic to heal. Other lip lift reviewers on this site had infections and it can make one side appear different than the other if there is fluid from the infection. Do you think this could be your issue? It could also be swelling. Whatever it is I hope everything gets better soon.
H
July 7, 2015
I told them about the redness and the bumps and they only had me apply Betadine 3 times a day. It cleared up the redness but I still have that pimple like bump. Now it's skin color instead of red. *sigh*
The infection side is the side with the bad scar, and it bled profusely after the surgery. The good scar side had no bleeding afterwards and healed tightly in 5 days.
Ironically, the GOOD scar side is the side with the nose distortion and wrinkling of the smile line... The good scar side didn't have the infection too.
I think I wasn't stitched up well on the bad side. It took twice as long to heal up too.
The infection side is the side with the bad scar, and it bled profusely after the surgery. The good scar side had no bleeding afterwards and healed tightly in 5 days.
Ironically, the GOOD scar side is the side with the nose distortion and wrinkling of the smile line... The good scar side didn't have the infection too.
I think I wasn't stitched up well on the bad side. It took twice as long to heal up too.
A
July 7, 2015
Sorry, I was confused. I would get a second opinion if it does not resolve. Best to you.
P
July 6, 2015
I wouldn't worry yet. This is still very early. You may sill have some swelling. Over the first 2 months I could see small progress every day in my scar disappearing. You look beautiful. You really can't evaluate your end result for 2-3 months.
H
July 7, 2015
Thank you! Yes, that's what I'm telling myself too. And it looks better everyday. :D
M
July 6, 2015
Your pic quality is really good, thanks so much! I can see the things you have noted, but I agree with others that you're still healing. And honestly are hard to notice. You're looking good, I cant wait to see next update!
M
July 6, 2015
Also the length in the side, non smiling, pics is looking cute. Do you still feel its not much difference from before?
H
July 7, 2015
Pictures say so much more than words, right? :D. I'll try to continue taking pics in day light so it doesn't lose as much details, but I think Realself degrades the images no matter.
H
July 7, 2015
The sides, not much different, almost none. However, I can tell that the cupid bow area is closer to the nose.
With that said, no one, including my husband can tell anything was done. They said I look the same - just with bigger nose haha.
I can tell though, even if it's a slight change, since it's my face. :)
With that said, no one, including my husband can tell anything was done. They said I look the same - just with bigger nose haha.
I can tell though, even if it's a slight change, since it's my face. :)


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