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Dr. Gary Horndeski in Sugar Land, TX / Lip Lift / 25 Years Old
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Hi everyone! I wanted to share my (ongoing)...
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Hi everyone!
I wanted to share my (ongoing) experience with this procedure. I'm a little more than a month into it, but I can already say without a doubt that Dr. Horndeski is a surgeon I would 100% recommend.
Thank you to those of you who on this site who posted reviews, you helped me find and choose said surgeon!
This is a procedure I've wanted for years, but never knew the correct way to go about. I've been self-conscious over the length of my philtrum as well as the size of my upper lip, and used to research lip augmentation before I found out a lip lift would be more suitable to my personal desires.
I settled on Dr. Horndeski because 1) His technique for this procedure is very innovative and yields minimal downtime trauma (request 2 weeks off tops) with permanent results: he, with the help of his also amazing assistant of 20+ years, Elisa Gonzalez, removes only the skin under/around the base of the nose and nostrils, stitches you up internally, and leaves one external stitch to pull out 5 days after the procedure. This results in a much nicer, less visible scar. 2) The reviews on this site sold me, and 3) his office is a 20 minute drive away from my house.
I've asked Dr. Horndeski how many times per week he does this procedure, and I was told on average about 2-4 times per week. He doesn't have any pictures or details regarding this procedure on his site, which is why I'm thankful RealSelf did, and why I want to add more information about it from my point of view. This isn't what Dr. Horndeski mainly specializes in so it's not something he promotes front and center.
In my next posts I'll discuss the procedure itself, and various stages of healing.
I wanted to share my (ongoing) experience with this procedure. I'm a little more than a month into it, but I can already say without a doubt that Dr. Horndeski is a surgeon I would 100% recommend.
Thank you to those of you who on this site who posted reviews, you helped me find and choose said surgeon!
This is a procedure I've wanted for years, but never knew the correct way to go about. I've been self-conscious over the length of my philtrum as well as the size of my upper lip, and used to research lip augmentation before I found out a lip lift would be more suitable to my personal desires.
I settled on Dr. Horndeski because 1) His technique for this procedure is very innovative and yields minimal downtime trauma (request 2 weeks off tops) with permanent results: he, with the help of his also amazing assistant of 20+ years, Elisa Gonzalez, removes only the skin under/around the base of the nose and nostrils, stitches you up internally, and leaves one external stitch to pull out 5 days after the procedure. This results in a much nicer, less visible scar. 2) The reviews on this site sold me, and 3) his office is a 20 minute drive away from my house.
I've asked Dr. Horndeski how many times per week he does this procedure, and I was told on average about 2-4 times per week. He doesn't have any pictures or details regarding this procedure on his site, which is why I'm thankful RealSelf did, and why I want to add more information about it from my point of view. This isn't what Dr. Horndeski mainly specializes in so it's not something he promotes front and center.
In my next posts I'll discuss the procedure itself, and various stages of healing.
UPDATED FROM Rust
1 month post
What to expect
I had a consultation with Dr. Horndeski on a Monday where we discussed details of the procedure, and what he recommended removing for me personally considering I wanted a drastic change. He was adamant about not making too drastic of a change for the initial surgery since you can remove skin but not put it back - I really appreciate that about him. If I still want more skin removed, I can schedule a revision 6 months after the initial surgery (which costs an additional $1,000). I thought about everything for a day, then scheduled my surgery for the soonest available time. There was a cancellation and I ended up having my procedure bumped up to Thursday that same week.
The procedure itself was a breeze, and the entire thing took about 30 minutes; it was easier than seeing a dentist.
First, I was taken into the room we had our consultation in and Dr. Horndeski marked what exactly was to be removed: 6mm from the lower sides of my nostrils (a little more from one side to fix some asymmetry, I don't know the exact mm), and 3-4mm from my philtrum (I pushed for 4). Unfortunately I don't know the initial length of my philtrum, it was never information I cared to keep in mind as I simply knew I didn't enjoy the original length. I was then injected with local anesthesia, which was quite painful and made me shed a tear, but it's over quickly. He asked me to look at myself in the mirror after that and I could only laugh; I was already swollen with duck lips and numb to the touch -> see photos labeled day 2 to get an idea.
I was then taken into the next room where the actual surgery takes place. I lay down on a bed and let the masters do their work. I admit I was nervous with pre-surgery jitters (this is my first cosmetic procedure and the only surgery I've had prior to this was wisdom teeth removal), and already anxious due to a loved one suffering a heart attack the night before (he had surgery the same day as me and is healing fine). I had trouble clearing my head, and when Elisa commented that my longtime partner looked very concerned in the waiting room, I almost started bawling thinking about my father-in-law's state in the hospital. Elisa instantly reminded me to breathe deeply and try to relax, grounding me. But, I truly could have fallen asleep during the procedure had I not been riddled with anxiety. I cannot emphasize enough how easy the surgery was from my perspective. During one point early on I felt slight discomfort around my left nostril, which I mentioned and I was quickly administered more of the local anesthesia, no pain this time since I was already 99% numb from the initial shot. Slice here, stitch there, and voila, it's over. I was asked to look at myself in the mirror and once again I could only laugh at how comical I looked due to swelling. Gauze was put over my nose/upper lip and advised to be removed 24 hours later (in fact my day 2 photos were taken right after I removed the gauze). I was given a sheet with post-op care, prescriptions for an antibiotic and pain medication, scheduled my next consultation appointment, and I was out the door.
I will add, I took a leftover Hydrocodone I had from my wisdom tooth removal before I went in on surgery day, anticipating pain from the local anesthesia shot. I do not recommend this as that needle is going to hurt no matter what, and, about 30 minutes after the surgery was over I started to feel pain - but it was 3 hours too soon to take more pain pills. I also took a small dose of Klonopin, which perhaps added to the feeling that I could have easily fallen asleep during the procedure. I had called prior to the surgery to verify that it was okay for me to take these pills before coming in. I also want to add how friendly and informative Dr. Horndeski's staff is, any time I called I was given prompt answers to any questions or concerns I had. His staff was also very friendly any time I came in to his office.
The procedure itself was a breeze, and the entire thing took about 30 minutes; it was easier than seeing a dentist.
First, I was taken into the room we had our consultation in and Dr. Horndeski marked what exactly was to be removed: 6mm from the lower sides of my nostrils (a little more from one side to fix some asymmetry, I don't know the exact mm), and 3-4mm from my philtrum (I pushed for 4). Unfortunately I don't know the initial length of my philtrum, it was never information I cared to keep in mind as I simply knew I didn't enjoy the original length. I was then injected with local anesthesia, which was quite painful and made me shed a tear, but it's over quickly. He asked me to look at myself in the mirror after that and I could only laugh; I was already swollen with duck lips and numb to the touch -> see photos labeled day 2 to get an idea.
I was then taken into the next room where the actual surgery takes place. I lay down on a bed and let the masters do their work. I admit I was nervous with pre-surgery jitters (this is my first cosmetic procedure and the only surgery I've had prior to this was wisdom teeth removal), and already anxious due to a loved one suffering a heart attack the night before (he had surgery the same day as me and is healing fine). I had trouble clearing my head, and when Elisa commented that my longtime partner looked very concerned in the waiting room, I almost started bawling thinking about my father-in-law's state in the hospital. Elisa instantly reminded me to breathe deeply and try to relax, grounding me. But, I truly could have fallen asleep during the procedure had I not been riddled with anxiety. I cannot emphasize enough how easy the surgery was from my perspective. During one point early on I felt slight discomfort around my left nostril, which I mentioned and I was quickly administered more of the local anesthesia, no pain this time since I was already 99% numb from the initial shot. Slice here, stitch there, and voila, it's over. I was asked to look at myself in the mirror and once again I could only laugh at how comical I looked due to swelling. Gauze was put over my nose/upper lip and advised to be removed 24 hours later (in fact my day 2 photos were taken right after I removed the gauze). I was given a sheet with post-op care, prescriptions for an antibiotic and pain medication, scheduled my next consultation appointment, and I was out the door.
I will add, I took a leftover Hydrocodone I had from my wisdom tooth removal before I went in on surgery day, anticipating pain from the local anesthesia shot. I do not recommend this as that needle is going to hurt no matter what, and, about 30 minutes after the surgery was over I started to feel pain - but it was 3 hours too soon to take more pain pills. I also took a small dose of Klonopin, which perhaps added to the feeling that I could have easily fallen asleep during the procedure. I had called prior to the surgery to verify that it was okay for me to take these pills before coming in. I also want to add how friendly and informative Dr. Horndeski's staff is, any time I called I was given prompt answers to any questions or concerns I had. His staff was also very friendly any time I came in to his office.
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UPDATED FROM Rust
1 month post
Preparing for the surgery & healing / aftercare
I wanted to eat a low sodium/high protein diet to aid in swelling reduction and a speedier recovery. Do your shopping prior to the surgery, unless you don't mind walking around with a good portion of your face swollen (although some people don't swell as much as others).
Here are some items I bought/already had:
1) Saline nasal spray. Do not forget to buy this prior to your surgery, you'll definitely need help cleaning your nose for a bit. I always used my spray after a warm shower.
2) Low-sodium lentil soup from Whole Foods to eat for the first few days, as well as protein shakes (either made in a blender with various ingredients or made with whatever protein powder and bottle you have).
3) Adult multivitamin gummies.
4) A donut pillow + lots of normal pillows.
5) Arnica montana 30C tablets to help with swelling (which I had planned to take a week prior to surgery + following it, but my surgery was bumped up a week so I just took these every day with my antibiotic). Although, Dr. Horndeski said I didn't need to take any sort of vitamin etc. to help with the swelling and I could just ride it all out.
I had originally planned to sleep upright for a full week after my procedure. I told Elisa this and she said that was great to shoot for. ***It is extremely important you remain upright throughout these first crucial days post-op, as to help minimize swelling.*** I was only able to sleep 4 days upright because my tailbone was kiiilling me. In fact, the most painful part of this whole thing was the pain my tailbone suffered while sleeping! I slept with a donut pillow around my neck; 2 staggered pillows for my back; a small pillow at the base of my back; 2 pillows to my right and left, boxing me in to ensure I didn't slide over while sleeping; and 2 pillows under my knees. I found out if I rotate my hips and shift my weight to whichever butt cheek, I relocated the majority of pressure off my tailbone. The first night I woke up several times since I didn't know the rotated hip/butt cheek tip. One of the times I woke up that first night was because I drooled on my chest and I immediately thought I had somehow torn the incision area and was bleeding. Whenever I woke up I made sure to rotate to the other butt cheek and I was always able to quickly fall back asleep.
I want to reiterate how painless this was. The actual day of the surgery was the most painful, and the only day where I felt the pain medication was needed. After that, the only pain I had was in my tailbone, as well as the pain caused by laughing, smiling, yawning, sneezing, etc. Don't watch any comedies during this first week or so, and hopefully you don't have a goofy klutz partner (or whoever is around) like I do who is constantly making me laugh!
On day 5, I was scheduled to come in and remove the suture. I actually didn't even touch around my nose for those first 5 days, didn't submerge it under water or remove any blood crusties. I did wash my face of course, but I steered clear of the incision area. Dr. Horndeski said I probably could have removed some crusties (which he went on to do himself), and could go ahead and wash the incision area. He said I was looking great, but I should wait to remove the stitch due to the crusties.
On day 6, I was pretty damn itchy at the incision area (due to healing). I fully submerged the area by cupping water in my hands at the sink, and immediately that helped reduce the itchy feeling.
The next day, one full week after the surgery, is when it no longer hurt to laugh, etc. I felt great!
Days 8-11 were smooth sailing and I was just waiting for the swelling to go down even more. I don't remember which day it was, possibly sooner, but my upper lip was peeling a lot one day (from the new previously unexposed part of my lip being brought up/out).
Day 12 is when I came in to Dr. Horndeski's office to finally remove the suture. It would have been sooner, but he was booked. Look again at my photos to see how fast I'm healing at this point :) This was the first day that I felt comfortable enough making a public appearance. We also discussed the possibility of a revision, not that I'm unhappy with my results so far, in fact I'm absolutely thrilled, I just went into this envisioning drastic results. If I recall correctly, he said he could see an additional 2-3mm being removed. He once again commented on how great the healing was going, and I made my next consultation appointment.
Picture wise there's not much to post during this time in the process. Day 2 you can see how swollen I am, and that diminishes day by day so it's a pretty gradual change not worth documenting in my opinion. You'll be swollen and numb due to the local anesthesia shots, and I've found that as the numbness dissipates from the area, so does the swelling. It takes time, so don't be anxious over this! I certainly wasn't despite being extremely swollen because I know this is just part of the healing process.
The first picture I've included in this post showcases Dr. Horndeski's amazing skill with stitching, which makes for a nicer scar. With this surgeon and this specific procedure he provides, you don't have all of those external sutures- just some internal ones you'll never see, and the one suture that starts from one side of your nostril and exits at the other nostril. That one primary suture is extremely thin and clear, in fact I had to remind Dr. Horndeski on day 12 that I was there to have it removed; I pointed at it and he couldn't see it until I put my fingernail behind it. Removing it tickled, but I immediately felt better and felt I could move much more freely, though at this point I still didn't want to pull much at the incision.
Here are some items I bought/already had:
1) Saline nasal spray. Do not forget to buy this prior to your surgery, you'll definitely need help cleaning your nose for a bit. I always used my spray after a warm shower.
2) Low-sodium lentil soup from Whole Foods to eat for the first few days, as well as protein shakes (either made in a blender with various ingredients or made with whatever protein powder and bottle you have).
3) Adult multivitamin gummies.
4) A donut pillow + lots of normal pillows.
5) Arnica montana 30C tablets to help with swelling (which I had planned to take a week prior to surgery + following it, but my surgery was bumped up a week so I just took these every day with my antibiotic). Although, Dr. Horndeski said I didn't need to take any sort of vitamin etc. to help with the swelling and I could just ride it all out.
I had originally planned to sleep upright for a full week after my procedure. I told Elisa this and she said that was great to shoot for. ***It is extremely important you remain upright throughout these first crucial days post-op, as to help minimize swelling.*** I was only able to sleep 4 days upright because my tailbone was kiiilling me. In fact, the most painful part of this whole thing was the pain my tailbone suffered while sleeping! I slept with a donut pillow around my neck; 2 staggered pillows for my back; a small pillow at the base of my back; 2 pillows to my right and left, boxing me in to ensure I didn't slide over while sleeping; and 2 pillows under my knees. I found out if I rotate my hips and shift my weight to whichever butt cheek, I relocated the majority of pressure off my tailbone. The first night I woke up several times since I didn't know the rotated hip/butt cheek tip. One of the times I woke up that first night was because I drooled on my chest and I immediately thought I had somehow torn the incision area and was bleeding. Whenever I woke up I made sure to rotate to the other butt cheek and I was always able to quickly fall back asleep.
I want to reiterate how painless this was. The actual day of the surgery was the most painful, and the only day where I felt the pain medication was needed. After that, the only pain I had was in my tailbone, as well as the pain caused by laughing, smiling, yawning, sneezing, etc. Don't watch any comedies during this first week or so, and hopefully you don't have a goofy klutz partner (or whoever is around) like I do who is constantly making me laugh!
On day 5, I was scheduled to come in and remove the suture. I actually didn't even touch around my nose for those first 5 days, didn't submerge it under water or remove any blood crusties. I did wash my face of course, but I steered clear of the incision area. Dr. Horndeski said I probably could have removed some crusties (which he went on to do himself), and could go ahead and wash the incision area. He said I was looking great, but I should wait to remove the stitch due to the crusties.
On day 6, I was pretty damn itchy at the incision area (due to healing). I fully submerged the area by cupping water in my hands at the sink, and immediately that helped reduce the itchy feeling.
The next day, one full week after the surgery, is when it no longer hurt to laugh, etc. I felt great!
Days 8-11 were smooth sailing and I was just waiting for the swelling to go down even more. I don't remember which day it was, possibly sooner, but my upper lip was peeling a lot one day (from the new previously unexposed part of my lip being brought up/out).
Day 12 is when I came in to Dr. Horndeski's office to finally remove the suture. It would have been sooner, but he was booked. Look again at my photos to see how fast I'm healing at this point :) This was the first day that I felt comfortable enough making a public appearance. We also discussed the possibility of a revision, not that I'm unhappy with my results so far, in fact I'm absolutely thrilled, I just went into this envisioning drastic results. If I recall correctly, he said he could see an additional 2-3mm being removed. He once again commented on how great the healing was going, and I made my next consultation appointment.
Picture wise there's not much to post during this time in the process. Day 2 you can see how swollen I am, and that diminishes day by day so it's a pretty gradual change not worth documenting in my opinion. You'll be swollen and numb due to the local anesthesia shots, and I've found that as the numbness dissipates from the area, so does the swelling. It takes time, so don't be anxious over this! I certainly wasn't despite being extremely swollen because I know this is just part of the healing process.
The first picture I've included in this post showcases Dr. Horndeski's amazing skill with stitching, which makes for a nicer scar. With this surgeon and this specific procedure he provides, you don't have all of those external sutures- just some internal ones you'll never see, and the one suture that starts from one side of your nostril and exits at the other nostril. That one primary suture is extremely thin and clear, in fact I had to remind Dr. Horndeski on day 12 that I was there to have it removed; I pointed at it and he couldn't see it until I put my fingernail behind it. Removing it tickled, but I immediately felt better and felt I could move much more freely, though at this point I still didn't want to pull much at the incision.
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March 29, 2015
Are the interval stitche dissolvable ?

March 29, 2015
Yes. Dr. Horndeski leaves only one external suture to remove after you've healed on your own for 5 days. It's not noticeable at all & very easy to remove (I think I remember reading someone from out-of-state could remove it on their own, under Dr. Horndeski's guidance).

April 20, 2015
I saw you said tickle when suture removed. I imagine it would hurt really bad. Its not the case? Also would it be different if u remove day 5 vs day 12nd

April 20, 2015
No, it doesn't hurt at all :) It's just an odd internal tickle that is over fast. It felt like a thin string being traced around the outline of my nose, and removing it made me laugh. I can only speak for my experience removing it after day 5, where the suture was possibly healed over more, but either way I can't imagine the process being painful for anyone.


April 20, 2015
No problem. I'd be glad to help with any other questions you might have in the future. I hope you'll be pleased with your results like I am! Xo
November 7, 2016
Hi there! Your lips look great! Can you please tell me what your starting measurement was and now your final measurement ? Thank you!
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Thank you so much for sharing. You look gorgeous!