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PermaLip 5 mm Silicone Implants on 2/28/13 - Spokane, WA

UPDATED FROM woltab
10 days post

The secondary procedure to fix my upper lip went...

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$800
The secondary procedure to fix my upper lip went well. It was more of the same, just with less bruising. This time I tried an Arnica salve that was supposed to help with bruising and swelling. I'm not sure how well it worked since most of the damage was done during the first procedure. I guess the tunnel never closed up, but the implant got twisted in a way that required going in there and removing it. The wound up using a brand new implant, which relieved me a little. I didn't want a defective implant!

I do have a few pics that I need to upload, but I just haven't gotten to it yet. There really wasn't a lot to see. Of course the bump is gone, and everything is more "even". I was worried my upper lip was going to be larger than my bottom lip, but now that the swellings gone down a little it looks like they're going to be about the same size (which is what I started with and what I was going for, see before pics).

One think that did surprise me was the amount of stress this procedure would cause. I've been so emotional over the last few days. On the 9th and 10th, I kept thinking that my upper lip was too big, which started me thinking about how I'd be a big lip freak, and what a mistake it was to get the procedure in the first place. Then yesterday I tried kissing my boyfriend with my numb lips, and I just lost it. I had no idea how much comfort I take from those little physical gestures, and when I couldn't feel his lips on mine (they tingled like they were asleep) I started bawling. They're still tingling, and they have been since the nerve block wore off. I can tell they are getting more feeling, but it's a really slow process.

I think getting back to work really helped me get back into a good head space. I think my lips look great today, and I can see the beginning of that little upturn on my upper lip. I'm pretty excited that it's visually healed, but I can't wait for the nerves to catch up. I guess the nerves get stretched and bruised during the procedure, and it can take two or three weeks for full sensation to come back. Also, the limitations on moving my mouth are starting to get old. After almost two weeks of not opening my mouth more than an inch, I'm starting to go nuts. Funny things happen, and I want to smile and laugh. Soon enough I guess, but it's hard right now.

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John Lundeby, MD, FACS, FAACS

John Lundeby, MD, FACS, FAACS

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March 11, 2013
Ive been praying for you. Im glad things are getting better. if anything maybe this whole thing has proven how tough you are, and you made it through even though it was super scary. Hugs from Savannah Ga
March 12, 2013
Thanks, SD! I don't know if I'm tough, but I did make it through the to the other side...eventually. :)
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March 12, 2013
thanks for the update...was worried about ya and was praying everything was well and the correction was done. Sounds like everything is back on to the road of recovery and heading towards a good direction :) it does suck not being able to kiss our men...drives me crazy too...definitely do not look forward to that...stay well...hope to see some new pics of your lips when everything has settled :) take care...happy healing :)
March 12, 2013
Hi fitmom- when are you getting your permalip? I still want it really bad, my lips seem deflated these days and botox injections above my top lip just aren't cutting it. Wilsos situation has been a scary and frustrating thing. Is that
March 12, 2013
Woltabs, not Wilson.... dang auto correct!
March 12, 2013
Anyway , does that kind of thing happen often, or was the implant defective?
March 12, 2013
Thanks for the good thoughts! Aside from having to have a revision, I think the loss of that physical intimacy was really the worst part. Well, I say that now after the bruising and swelling have gone down. :P Good luck with your surgery. You have to be getting anxious by now! Hopefully everything goes well and you're able to avoid any nasty issues like implant migration. :) PS: Google arnica and get a salve! I think it really helped the bruising, and the other girls (my PS's office staff) who had lip augmentation swear by it. I wish I would have used it for the first surgery.
March 12, 2013
I don't know the rate of migration overall, but I do know that I was lucky number one for my PS. I think I'm the odd woman out, but it was very correctable, and to Doc L's credit he handled the whole thing like a champ. He looked downright embarrassed, and was so apologetic. It was such a relief when I found out he was willing to eat the additional cost.
March 12, 2013
Im sooo glad your doctor fixxed l it. You seem in much better spirits now. :-)
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March 12, 2013
My PS put me on it started two days ago to get in my system beforehand along with Bomelain and Ester C too...fingers are crossed that all helps with me healing...getting very anxious one week away...next Tuesday :)...i have a review up and plan on posting close up of my lips now and will do after pic and healing couple days afterwards and so on :)....can you feel the implants..i know asked morgan too, but everyone reacts differently....you and morgan really help calm my nerves since you two have just recently had yours done and cant thank you two enough :))
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March 12, 2013
Surgery March 19, next Tuesday :)) already had one surgery with my own fascia but my body re adsorbed it or either i talked it off :) loss the fuller pout but still bigger than what god slapped on my face and called lips for me LOL...so here i go again and hopefully the last....never heard of Botox in the lips...paralyzes; how can you talk or have movement of your upper lip....i get botox every 4mths and have no expression/movement as a result...maybe you meant to say collagen, restalyne, juvederm, perlane, or sculptra those are the only fillers i know for lips and have had all at different times to see which one work the best prior to my first surgery; anywhoos save your money their all a waste, unless you want to see what your lips will look like bigger before deciding on surgery except botox for the forehead and crowsfeet....Woltab is a trooper, it is scary, but it was something that could be corrected and she has a good PS who cares...i try not to think or get too anxious about the negatives and try to look on the positive side and have faith...Woltab lips are going to look awesome she just had a bump in the road and is back on track :))...I'm glad women are honest on here good or bad it helps me make a firmer decision and really think vs. jumping into something head first without reading the safety sign
March 13, 2013
Oh no, :) I dont get botox in my lip, I get it above my top lip. One shot goes directly in the center of the skin between my nose and top lip, and one shot on each side of that about halfway between that injection and the corner of my mouth. It rolls my top lip up so I have a little shelf ...but it doesn't last. I only have trouble with things like drinking from a straw...lol, and I drooled alot when brushing my teeth, but that was only the 1st time I did it. Now I get it every 5 months when I get my forehead and between my eyebrows done. I just want something better. I have learned so much and am really excited for all of you. I cant wait to do it next. Good luck Tuesday!! :)
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March 16, 2013
LOL...interesting....i hear ya on shots not lasting..me too got tired of all the injections in the lips...Im very excited to get my surgery over and done with cant wait...counting down the days :) I will post pics of before and after :) feel free to ask anything ....thanks keeping my fingers cross
May 9, 2013
I was just wondering if you lost any sensation in your lips at all? Or if it changed the way you talk? These are my biggest concerns. Thanks.
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July 19, 2013
Hi. I'm getting my lip implants in 11 days. I'm extremely nervous because I'm reading about possible changes in smile and stiffness when kissing. Can anyone tell me approximately when I can smile again and also will my partner feel something different when kissing him? I'm estimating seeing him about three weeks after surgery. Will that be long enough for him not to notice?
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January 27, 2014
How did yours go I'm thinking of getting mine done to?
August 15, 2013
since it's been a few months now, can you post after pictures? how do you feel about the results? I'm thinking about getting the procedure done, I have a consultation appointment coming up and I'm stoked for it... but some of these negative results have me a going back and forth on whether or not I should go through with it. I read a lot about the implant migrating to the mustache area, does yours feel stable? Do you still smile and pronounce your words the same as before?
UPDATED FROM woltab
4 days post

I've been a few days, and every morning I can tell...

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I've been a few days, and every morning I can tell the bruising is lessening, and the swelling is going down. I did encounter one problem on day two post-op. My implant migrated to she right, and the tunnel in that portion of the lip closed up. At least that's what I thought until I had my post-op meeting with the doc earlier today. On my bottom lip I could feel the implant which was symmetrical. On my top lip I could feel it on the one side, but not the other. I was pretty worried over the weekend. I actually tried to move the implant back over by pinching my lip on the opposite side. I could feel the implant moving slightly, but I couldn't get it to slide back over. Having had piercings close up on me in the past, I thought it was reasonable that the same thing could have happened with the implant tunnel in my upper lip.

At my consult Doc L confirmed that the implant migrated, and the bump on my upper lip was the end of the implant bent back on itself (see pics). Doc L tried to manipulate the implant, but he wasn't able to move it any more than I was. I was sooo worried that I would have to pay OR costs to have my lip fixed, but thankfully the doctor said that he would do that for free. His main concern was that my lip look good for the long term. I'm scheduled to go back for a corrective procedure on the morning of the 6th. I'm happy to be having it fixed, but I'm worried about telling my work I have to be out again. :(

I'm also concerned that the same thing might happen again. I didn't think to ask that when I was with the doctor, so I'll have to wait till Wednesday. I don't have any idea how this happened in the first place. It's kinda a big pain in the butt. I had a little freak out this morning which amounted to me bawling and having a worried pity party. I also called into work because of it, which turned into another days lost wages. I'm lucky enough to have sick time, but I really can't afford to be out a whole lot. Bleh!

I'm still happy I got it done. The bottom lip looks awesome, and I'm pretty sure that the end result will be that both lips look good.

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March 4, 2013
Forgot to ask but what size did you go with in both lips? Small, Medium or large? Hope your feeling better today
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March 4, 2013
BTW cant beat 800...your lucky :)
March 4, 2013
The PermaLip implants come in 3, 4 & 5 mm, and I went with the 5's. I really wanted a noticeable increase in size, and based on the bottom lip (read post above for the story on the top lip) I think it's a good size for me.
March 4, 2013
Do u know how long your Dr. Will be offering such a great deal? I think it may be worth a mini vacation. Did they charge extra to put you to sleep? I'm super scared to be awake, I dont think i will go through with it unless I'm out cold.
March 4, 2013
Doctor Lundeby offered this price to the first 10 people that walked in the door. I guess he'd been doing the procedure for several months, and he only had two patients consent to a before/after photo to be shown on his website. I have no problem with my image being on his site, so basically it's a $2000 discount for some quick pictures. Sign me up! I was actually the 8th person to schedule, and that was a month ago, so I'm betting the deal is over. Sorry! :)
March 4, 2013
Just my luck. Bummer. I'm going to do it still. Wish I could find a crazy good deal like that around here. At any cost after researching, I really want it...kinda getting obsessed about it :) How are they feeling??
March 5, 2013
Yeah, I still can't believe what a good deal it is! I was getting my underarms lasered, and the receptionist was talking about it since she was getting it done the next week. When I heard the price, I scheduled a consultation for the next day, and scheduled a date at the consultation! Even with the problem I'm having with the upper lip, I'd still recommend him because he's fixing it for free. That and his staff are all really friendly and good at what they do.
March 5, 2013
Oh my goodness,I just read your update! I wonder how that happened??!!! I'm shocked because it looked so even in the 1st after pics. I'm so sorry you have to deal with that!!! :-(
March 5, 2013
Aww, thanks for the good thoughts! :) I'm fine. The upper lip feels swollen, and a little hurty after the doc manipulated the implant. Thank goodness for crazy prescription pain killers!
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March 5, 2013
sorry to hear about your implant migrating...fustrating and upseting :(...glad to hear hes going take care of it for you..keep us posted and good luck on Wed. :)
March 5, 2013
It was sooo scary! I thought was going to have to pay for the OR costs, and I didn't have any extra money for that. Would I have a jacked up lip for weeks? Months?!?! Yeah, I'm really glad he's gonna take care of it. Thanks for the good thoughts! :)
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March 5, 2013
how are you on brushing your teeth and drinking...did they give you anything(such as a the toothpaste swabs or syringe to getting nutrients down) or recommend....did they tell you not to talk or make much movement while healing the first week?
March 5, 2013
I used disposable tooth brushes for the first two days, but on the third I could get my normal brush in there. I was pretty great brushing normally after brushing with those mini things. Points to the boyfriend for putting up with my stink breath. :P As far as eating, I wasn't hungry for the first day, so I had a protein shake and called it good. After that I just had mushy things or really small bites.
UPDATED FROM woltab
1 day post

I just uploaded the pictures my boyfriend took...

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I just uploaded the pictures my boyfriend took after we got home and I slept for a couple hours. I didn't realize I had little dried blood specks on my face, so sorry about that. And I was so woozy from anesthesia and hydros that I couldn't stand up straight for very long, which is why one of the pics is crooked. :P

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March 1, 2013
Hi!! I've been following your journey this past week while I was searching around trying to find all that I could about permalip. Funny thing is that we had the same appt date and time! Well, I went in for a consult the same time you were having the procedure. Haha. I'm scheduled for march 7th to have mine done. How's the swelling and everything??? I'm getting 5 mm on the top and 4mm on the bottom. It was a tough choice on size. I wanted big of course.! Anyway, can't wait to see pics of yours! So not looking forward to the swelling with my lips. Does it hurt, like pressure or anything?? Any advice??
March 1, 2013
I'm glad my review was helpful! The swelling hurt the most on the fist day, and I took a 10 mg hydrocodin for pain and 800 mg ibuprofen for the swelling every six hours. That turned out to be twice, before I went to bed last night. The pressure in my lips feels "tight" more than painful. I don't think it's anything you couldn't handle with some pain killers, but I haven't taken any pain meds today. It's just not that bad.
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March 2, 2013
Good to hear back from you. I'm def taking meds I'm a wimp! The tightness is going to be so annoying!!!
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March 7, 2013
I'm on the way to the dr to get my permalip. I'm nervous about it!!!! Curious to see what the lips will look like since mine are so small on the too. I don't want anything bad to happen! What does you dr have to do to correct yours?? It's nothing serious though right?
March 12, 2013
I hope your procedure went well! :)
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March 1, 2013
yea :) glad to know everything went well .... cant wait to see your pics; usually by two weeks the lips go down enough to see what the end result looks like; unlike mine my body re-adsorbed :( thankful for a safe implant now that my body cant munch up LOL...anywhoos when i go into surgery March 19 your lips will look awesome :) rest up
March 1, 2013
I had a little work I needed to get done, so I remoted in and did that first thing, but other than that I'm being a potato. I hope your surgery goes well! And I can't wait for the swelling to go down, I feel like I have hot dog lips. :P
March 2, 2013
Yay!!!!! So happy for you! You can tell they will be perfect! I cant wait until they are healed! Thank you for posting all of this! Hugs!!
March 2, 2013
I hope you're right. It's kinda awful to look so gursome. O_o Thanks for the good thoughts! :D
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March 3, 2013
everybody heals and bruise differently...my lips didn't bruise at all but i had a little bit yellowish bruising under my eyes, and my lips were shedding :( even with vaseline all over them... my lips look bigger than daffy duck...give it time..i had to sleep incline for a week and ice around the clock, which was part of the post op instructions...not fun sleeping at an incline :(...i posted a review on my first surgery and will post pics of my first surgery as soon as i transfer off my old cell..... your lips will look great their just healing...the healing process is never pretty, but the results are well worth it....thanks for posting pics :))) quack quack lol i will be right behind ya in a few :)
March 4, 2013
I was using Burt's Bees lip stuff all the time, and my lips shed sooo much. I felt like I was molting. :P