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33 Years Old Women, Large Back Tattoo - Barcelona, Spain

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Ok so here it is with the more real colors. I cannot remove it, but I cannot say I fully like it. As I mentioned to Eva in the comment before, I think that body does not balance with the tail. If you look at the pictures compering to the initial drawing the balance was different. Also the waist was more emphasized while here it feels like tattoo emphasizes my back more.

So I was thinking to remove this mandala (just under the body of phoenix), although I was told that with the intensity of the colors i will not even see any results after 1 year. And to add make somehow tail more visible?

I don´t know what do you think guys?

Thank you so much for the whole community here - people are so kind!

Ania

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K
May 8, 2015
That is amazing back piece. My advice is to leave it alone. If you try to remove it, it will look like moldy cheese and it will not come out with the technology out. Leave it alone, get another tattoo.
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H
May 8, 2015
Thank you a lot! Unfortunately it does give me sleepless nights, I think it is a good work, but it turned out not ow i had seen it, therefore disappointment. Technically it is immaculate and I would recommend the artist to anybody. I really hope Alec cream goes out soon, it removes colors, cause honestly summer is coming and i cannot see myself going to the beach.
E
May 9, 2015
Hey dear!! First, thanks for commenting on my own page. I already replied to you :) I just read all your posts, and saw your back tattoo. (Also just realized your from Barcelona, I could totally speak in Spanish since I'm bilingual but I think it's nicer for all the people here that I keep on with English so everybody understands!). I'm so sorry that you don't like your back piece, I feel totally the same with my thigh, I know how it feels. But unlike me, you didn't try to change the colors and details of your phoenix cover up, and that's a good thing, because as everybody already told you: your tattoo is AB-SO-LU-TE-LY amazing!!! That being said, it's your body, and it's normal to have doubts about wanting something that big on your skin for ever. I also understand that you don't like the balance between the body of the phoenix and the tail, which looks very tiny compared to the whole design. BUT, you should not be ashamed at all of your tattoo, the colors are beautiful, and I think everybody here will tell you the same: we don't think the tiny tail of the phoenix is altering the balance of the whole design, we really don't! I totally understand you when you say you have nightmares about your tattoo. I had nightmares for almost a year, that's a looooooong time! But keep that in mind: it's temporary. I don't have nightmares anymore. I also had many tattoos since then, and my new tattoos are really helping me to get through the removal process: even if I don't feel like going to the beach because my thigh tattoo looks weird after one cover up attempt, 1 Q-Switch and 1 Pico treatments, I think the only limits you have are in your mind. It's also still a bit hard for me to get naked in front of somebody, but I'm sure I'll be able to do it again sometime sooner or later. But REALLY, don't ever feel ashamed of showing off your body on the beach, you'll see you'll only have good comments on your tattoo, unlike me!! When the few friends I told about my leg saw my tattoo, they said it was not so bad but they understand the design did not match my expectations. On the contrary, my arm tattoos seem to fascinate my friends, and they are really happy for me and everybody likes my ink on my arm :) I don't know what else to say!! :P Ok I'll stop there :D
E
May 9, 2015
Last funny thing: I got a fan tattoo two months ago while I was in Mexico. I had an idea in mind about how it should have looked. It ended up very different. And guess what?? I love it!! Pretty much the same with my Mexican heart and my perfume bottle done 3 weeks ago, before leaving Mexico. Sometimes you have an idea in mind, you go with a tattooist, explaining what you want, but the design is not really matching what you thought. I think the thing there is also to accept that we are going to see tattoo "artists" for what they do, and sometimes, maybe when we are not fully ready to get tattooed, we feel disappointed about what we get. You maybe need to find THE tattooist you won't fear to give your skin to, just as I luckily did with Moises Jimenez in Mexico (btw, Moises is going to move from Mexico to Barcelona in August, I will definitely go to Barcelona in September of October this year to start new projects with him, maybe we could meet? :D). Long story short, as far as I am concerned, and analyzing my own story, I guess I wasn't ready for such a big tattoo and was not able to accept it. But now that I am getting small/medium pieces on my arms, I can say that I today know exactly what I like, what I don't, what I want and don't want. Maybe you need to go through the same process? :)
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H
May 9, 2015
Ah thanks Elias! Its is really insightful and truthful what you have just wrote, and you are most probably right about everything. I hope, and i know its how it will be, I will come to acceptance of my own body with it, because it is still the same body... but I will await for the cream to come out! And I also thru my lessons tend to say that it is better to find artist you like and give him full power. In this case it was me (being polish) trying to explain my tattoo artist (being Argentinian) in English - as I still struggle with Spanish (but i hope in September when you arrive we can speak fluently - we should met up totally! The tattoo itself was to be inspired by Polish folk art. So yes, i believe if I would ask him to make a cover up based on his own perception it would probably be more balances maybe he would have chosen the different design and probably better. But well, that's one lesson learned. On my previous tattoo i gave the whole power to the artist and it was absolutely awful, maybe thats why i didnt trusted this time that much! And mostly, thank you for advice on getting another tattoo, maybe this is the way... I was thinking to extend that ethnical colorful design to my arm - is time with smaller elements! If you wish we can exchange emails - I always love to met new people and i am a avid cook - so you can count on invitation while you are here! All the best, Anna
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H
May 9, 2015
Thank you Louise of course!
E
May 9, 2015
No problem!!! i'm glad I could help!! Here's my email address: lea.labz@yahoo.fr or you can find me on fb: Ael Lz :)))
M
May 10, 2015
What if you added some very light gray-wash/smokey background to it? I have a huge colorful peacock on my thigh, and it has some very light-handed swirly clouds that I think tie the whole piece together, and give it a nice shape on my body. Plus I think the grays balance out all of the colors in the piece, and I like having the softness around the edges to balance out all of the linework. Just a suggestion. I agree that the tattoo is lovely as it is, but maybe a little re-imagining will help you to love it more! In fact, my peacock has been finished for years and years, but after a while, the more I looked at it, the more I realized there was something "missing" on the bottom portion. I contacted my artist, he added more background, and I fell in love with the tattoo all over again :)
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H
May 10, 2015
Hi miss, thank you for your suggestion! this is what I was thinking too... actually it was an idea of a friend who is a tattoo artist. I also think it should have more contrast too it... All the best! Anna
R
June 11, 2015
I love this tattoo! I think it looks really beautiful, and well done ... and compliments your body. I will gladly trade you for my crappy thigh tattoo ;)
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H
June 11, 2015
Ah thank you so much :-) I would gladly exchange it too :-) Are you going thru removal yourself?
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HM
June 11, 2015
Your tattoo is absolutely beautiful. No more need be said.
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June 11, 2015
Thank you so mich Niccola :-) I am afraid I cannot grow liking it for some reason :-( just too big I guess. But yes it is done perfectly.
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HM
June 11, 2015
I understand. And in that case you must do everything you can to change it. Or remove it. I wish you luck . Thanks for sharing and I'll be interested to see how it goes for you as I follow your journey.
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H
June 12, 2015
Thank you so much. Unfortunatelly with laser it is impossible /would take min 5 years So for me the hope is that cream that is being developed. For me and for all of us going thru removal :-)
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W
January 24, 2016
Yes this tattoo does look awesome! I have something others seem to appreciate more than me also. Thanks for your input and sharing your journey.
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EG
September 7, 2015

Hi there, how are you doing? What have you decided to do with your tattoo?

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H
September 7, 2015
HI Eva, thank you for asking. I still have not come to peace with that particular tattoo. I have spent whole summer (the warmest we had in Barcelona in years) hidding it. But because of the information given by the technic, I didn´t follow with the laser removal. Just seemed like it is not worth it. I would spend years hidding with it, before I could only cover it, which with my main concert being a size of it would not make any sense.

As I wrote before, I hope that the tattoo removal cream will get out, and I do think that the technology behind it is promising. If it gets to the market, I will probably use it, if not I guess another technology will come, or I get to accept the tattoo as many people did before the laser came. And as I was told it would take 5y only to be prepared to cover up, it is so much time for a new technology to be developed. No need to spend money on the painful and damaging laser removal process.

However I am reading such a surpricing news every day - today about the HIV prevention pill - another day about 3D printed prostetic hands - all of the are something I would not think months ago to happen. I am pretty sure there are many people working on the technology to remove the tattoos.

Have a lovely day!

Ania
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EG
September 8, 2015

Thanks for your reply Ania, nice to hear from you. :) 

Sounds like you made the best decision for yourself, and that is what's important. I really love your tattoo, I know I have told you this before, and I realize that it doesn't change how you feel. 

3D printers blow my mind, I never would have imagined that...who knows what will comes next - time can only tell! ;) 

 

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Old tattoo removal

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Ah and I have found how it all began so its the tattoo I removed at 1st, before covering it up with Phoenix. Just after it was done. Awful, isn´t it?

The picture is not the best, but the black color got our pretty easily. Actually it was something that I should do, remove the black totally, as it was possible, and just cover the flower. I really did not predicted that Phoenix will be that big.

But the tattoo clearners which did the removal of black I can recommend easily.

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EG
May 8, 2015

I don't think your original tattoo looks bad either, but the Phoenix was a nice change.

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hullaballoo

Hi Guys thank you a lot!

So I can say, what I heard from a very proffesional consultat at the evolution tattoo which is in Barcelona sorrounding. http://ikovocomunicacion.wix.com/tatuajes---piercings
And I honesly think it is the first place where actually the truth has been told, and she simply said that I would be even more unhappy if the whole process would start, and removal with the current technology is impossible. She said it would take 5 years for it to be prepared for the cover up not even to be removed.

So I can totally recommend going there, while in other places in Barcelona they would promise me impossible. So for the ones reading me, beware ;-)

She also said that with any technology currently available removal of the colors is never in 100% successful, especially for red, oranges and yellows. They would always leave the trace.

I dont know how it works in US, but here we have a professionals working on tattoo removal in the tattoo shop itself. Which is nice, cause already from the beginning you can work with the artist and the removal technician together.

So my story finishes at this point. Until Alec Falkenham release his cream to the public, which I guess will take him few days. And till then I will have to learn to like my tattoo.

Attached are the pictures with more real colors. But as i said I really like the colors, and tattoo is very professionally done (which was confirmed by all the artists technicians I have seen this days)
It is just too big. And I think that the tails compering to the bird is just not visible. Or maybe if it would be more "phoenix" like I would then like it more.

Well wrong decisions has been made, and I have to bare the consequences.

Maybe You have any ideas how to balance it better?

Thank you for your support!

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L
May 7, 2015
Hola! Soy de México y estoy pasando también por la situación de un tatuaje no deseado :/ Pero no he entendido, entonces no te has animado porque te dijeron que no era posible? Es por los colores o porque es un tatuaje encima de otro?
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H
May 7, 2015
Hola lullaby! si me dijeron que no es posible por razón de los colores. con esta intensidad de colour y también me dijeron que es un tattoo "muy insertó" en el piel, no es possible borrar totalmente. sólo podrían bajar la intensidad de colores para cover up. Tu deseas eliminar completamente o sólo preparar for cover up? La intensidad de colores es la misma que mía? Que vaya bien! Anna
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L
May 7, 2015
En mi opinión tu tatuaje se ve muy bien hecho! Yo definitivamente quiero que se vaya... fue cosa de impulso, y no estaba lista para un tatuaje así, puedes ver las fotos en mi review. En su mayoría es negro pero sí tiene colores verdes, azul claro y oscuro, y amarillo. El amarillo no me preocupa puesto que se confunde con mi tonalidad. Todos los demás me tienen preocupada, y aún no sé qué tan profunda esté localizada la tinta :( En 1 mes tengo mi primera sesión, ya actualizaré para decir cómo va! Por cierto, en tu antiguo tatuaje, cuántas sesiones necesitaste para borrar la tinta negra?
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May 7, 2015
Depende de laser, los colores reaccionan differente. Y todo depende de qualidad de tatuaje tambien. Es importante que vea muy buen technico, que te explico fuction de machina que tiene y que trabaja con otra colores. En caso mio, me dije que el varde y azul oscuro pueden ser desparecer, pero necessitan muchas sessiones. En el case de Q-Switch es 12 sessiones para ellos. Cada cos 2 meses de descansa. En el caso de negro depende de profundidad y densidad del tinto, pero en este caso pienso que 6-8 sessiones es demasiado. Tatuaje mio no es antiguo. En el primer foto parece que es, pero es solo porque hay una gran candidad de luz. Si me preguntas, en el caso de tu tatuaje, pienso que no vale la pena eliminar. No es feo, es bonito, y el process de emimination es muy doloroso y toma mucho tiempo. Pienso que a meno que el tatuaje es super feo, o es el nombre del tu ex-novio, o si desea un cover up; no vale el process de elimination (y tambien es una opinia de technicos con quien estaba hablando en estos dias.