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Obagi Nu Derm and Vi Peel - Seattle, WA
UPDATED FROM Michelez
I'm now giving you my final and third "formal"...
MichelezAugust 27, 2012
WORTH IT$460
I'm now giving you my final and third "formal" update since I started using Obagi. On my second update I was more than half-way through the first system, and was not sure that I was that impressed with the routine. Since than my mind has completely changed, and my skin has never looked better. I was recommended the use of the Obagi system by a Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeon (female and Asian) that had terrible melasma, and when I saw her I was amazed as all of her skin discoloration was completely gone, and her skin looked impeccable. She explained to me that Obagi had done this for her skin. So...I was convinced and agreed to give it a try. She gave me the complete Obagi system to include washing gel, toner, clear (hydroquinone - to get rid of brown spots/melasma), Exforderm Forte ( an alpha hydroxy acid consisting of 6% glycolic acid and 4% lactic acid), blender and Tretinoin (.05% (prescription strength Retin A which comes in .02%, .05% and .1%), and lastly sunscreen. So...the many aforementioned products are what constitute the whole Obagi system.
When I first started out, as stated in my earlier posts, I had a hard time with the harsher chemicals in the Tretinoin as they caused peeling, some small sores and general skin irritation especially around my chin and lower area by my nose/upper lip. In reading many women's experiences on this site I tended to notice that despite these "warning" signs of over irritation the women continued to use the Tretinoin everyday without ever taking a break causing their irritation to get worse and worse. After calling my doctor she advised me to use common sense and back off the Tretinoin to every 2-3 days until my skin became acclimated to the product, and by all means to stay out of the sun.
Following her advice I soon noticed that my skin became less irritated, and that I could use all of the products as prescribed on a daily basis. Then the opportunity came up for a trip to Hawaii. I knew that I would not be getting my face in the sun as these products are strongly contraindicated with sun exposure; that said, I decided to not use the Exfoderm Forte and Tretinoin whatsoever while I was in Hawaii - this seemed to work out fine. When I returned home from my 2 week trip I thought that I could just pick up where I left off, and that was not the case. My skin, was yet again, super sensitive to the Tretinoin, and I had to use it very sparingly only a couple of times a week.
Well, since that last review I've returned to see my doctor, bought another round of the aforementioned Obagi system, and I can't tell you how beautiful my skin now looks. Even my doctor was shocked at the marked improvement in my 55 year old skin. The picture that you see posted of me in a bathing suit was before I ever started using Obagi. Obagi has removed at least 10 years of aging off of my face. I had brown sun damage spots - one located in my eyebrow; thereby, making it almost impossible to remove, two others on my left cheek that were rather large, and other's on my temple areas. My skin texture was somewhat course with enlarged pores, and uneven skin texture and color, and I had all of these problems after NOT laying in the sun for over 20 years.
I'm now into the early to middle use of my second Obagi treatment session and my skin just keeps getting better and better. I wanted to note after reading some reviews on this site that some women stated that they had uneven discoloration from the hydroquinone (Clear) and still had dark patches, etc. I have not had this problem, and it may be due to the fact that I apply the Clear rather liberally to all parts of my face to include my neck twice a day as directed. My skin is a lovely, even tone with not a single brown spot in sight. The brown spots were the strangest things of all as one day they just started peeling off, and I could take a tweezer and very, very gently remove these small brown layers of skin (mind you not digging, or causing bleeding, but just gently scraping off the old brown skin that had been sitting on the top of nice healthy skin for years). Needless to say, I no longer have any brown spots!!!!
My pores have minimized in size, and my skin hasn't been this soft since the day I was born. I have no breakouts of any kind, and my fine wrinkles are almost all gone. Should I continue - virtually everyday someone will stop me on the street and ask me what I do to take care of my skin, and that is with absolutely no make-up on whatsoever!!!
I don't think that the firm that is selling Obagi came up with some miracle cure, but what they did that has made them so effective and successful is that they have packaged all the new advances for ,aging women/men's skin care in one simple to use package which has been proven to make the patients more compliant; thereby giving the patient a better result because all the products you need are in one place, numbered, with simple directions to follow to give you the best skin possible. The fact that all the products that you need for the best skin possible are numbered, at your fingertips sitting on your sink morning and evening make it easy for you to keep up the regime - ease of use equals compliance, and that's smart marketing. It is possible to go and buy all of these products separately, but the compliance issue then becomes a problem, and the amazing results don't seem to happen ( this comes from statistical studies done by other's with no financial backing in Obagi). Doing the math given that the Obagi system costs around $460-$500 for a 3 month supply, used twice a day, the cost comes out to $5.11 a day to have beautiful youthful looking skin, and that my friends is quite a bargain in more ways than one. I hope this final review will encourage other's to try what I consider to be money well spent. Remember you probably spend more on your money latte than you would with Obagi to have beautiful and youthful skin. Best of luck...
Michele
This will be my last review of Obagi, but I will have some new ones coming up on "safe" lasers, and injectables that hopefully you'll find interesting. I must say this the most bang for my buck, and the best non-invasive skin care products that truly met my high standards, and the guarantees of the manufacturer, is the Obagi System. The Obagi System has fulfilled their claims and made me look much younger, and better, than I ever could have imagined. I will be recommending this regime to all women I know - young, or old, as it is a product worth it's weight in gold, and you're never too young to start taking care of your skin.
When I first started out, as stated in my earlier posts, I had a hard time with the harsher chemicals in the Tretinoin as they caused peeling, some small sores and general skin irritation especially around my chin and lower area by my nose/upper lip. In reading many women's experiences on this site I tended to notice that despite these "warning" signs of over irritation the women continued to use the Tretinoin everyday without ever taking a break causing their irritation to get worse and worse. After calling my doctor she advised me to use common sense and back off the Tretinoin to every 2-3 days until my skin became acclimated to the product, and by all means to stay out of the sun.
Following her advice I soon noticed that my skin became less irritated, and that I could use all of the products as prescribed on a daily basis. Then the opportunity came up for a trip to Hawaii. I knew that I would not be getting my face in the sun as these products are strongly contraindicated with sun exposure; that said, I decided to not use the Exfoderm Forte and Tretinoin whatsoever while I was in Hawaii - this seemed to work out fine. When I returned home from my 2 week trip I thought that I could just pick up where I left off, and that was not the case. My skin, was yet again, super sensitive to the Tretinoin, and I had to use it very sparingly only a couple of times a week.
Well, since that last review I've returned to see my doctor, bought another round of the aforementioned Obagi system, and I can't tell you how beautiful my skin now looks. Even my doctor was shocked at the marked improvement in my 55 year old skin. The picture that you see posted of me in a bathing suit was before I ever started using Obagi. Obagi has removed at least 10 years of aging off of my face. I had brown sun damage spots - one located in my eyebrow; thereby, making it almost impossible to remove, two others on my left cheek that were rather large, and other's on my temple areas. My skin texture was somewhat course with enlarged pores, and uneven skin texture and color, and I had all of these problems after NOT laying in the sun for over 20 years.
I'm now into the early to middle use of my second Obagi treatment session and my skin just keeps getting better and better. I wanted to note after reading some reviews on this site that some women stated that they had uneven discoloration from the hydroquinone (Clear) and still had dark patches, etc. I have not had this problem, and it may be due to the fact that I apply the Clear rather liberally to all parts of my face to include my neck twice a day as directed. My skin is a lovely, even tone with not a single brown spot in sight. The brown spots were the strangest things of all as one day they just started peeling off, and I could take a tweezer and very, very gently remove these small brown layers of skin (mind you not digging, or causing bleeding, but just gently scraping off the old brown skin that had been sitting on the top of nice healthy skin for years). Needless to say, I no longer have any brown spots!!!!
My pores have minimized in size, and my skin hasn't been this soft since the day I was born. I have no breakouts of any kind, and my fine wrinkles are almost all gone. Should I continue - virtually everyday someone will stop me on the street and ask me what I do to take care of my skin, and that is with absolutely no make-up on whatsoever!!!
I don't think that the firm that is selling Obagi came up with some miracle cure, but what they did that has made them so effective and successful is that they have packaged all the new advances for ,aging women/men's skin care in one simple to use package which has been proven to make the patients more compliant; thereby giving the patient a better result because all the products you need are in one place, numbered, with simple directions to follow to give you the best skin possible. The fact that all the products that you need for the best skin possible are numbered, at your fingertips sitting on your sink morning and evening make it easy for you to keep up the regime - ease of use equals compliance, and that's smart marketing. It is possible to go and buy all of these products separately, but the compliance issue then becomes a problem, and the amazing results don't seem to happen ( this comes from statistical studies done by other's with no financial backing in Obagi). Doing the math given that the Obagi system costs around $460-$500 for a 3 month supply, used twice a day, the cost comes out to $5.11 a day to have beautiful youthful looking skin, and that my friends is quite a bargain in more ways than one. I hope this final review will encourage other's to try what I consider to be money well spent. Remember you probably spend more on your money latte than you would with Obagi to have beautiful and youthful skin. Best of luck...
Michele
This will be my last review of Obagi, but I will have some new ones coming up on "safe" lasers, and injectables that hopefully you'll find interesting. I must say this the most bang for my buck, and the best non-invasive skin care products that truly met my high standards, and the guarantees of the manufacturer, is the Obagi System. The Obagi System has fulfilled their claims and made me look much younger, and better, than I ever could have imagined. I will be recommending this regime to all women I know - young, or old, as it is a product worth it's weight in gold, and you're never too young to start taking care of your skin.
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September 24, 2012
Hi there! My name is Ioana , I am 27 and I am from Eastern Europe ( a small country named Romania). I came across this page and I just can't stop reading it! First of all , I just wanna say that all people posting here are just great! Michelle, you look stunning! Really , I just hope I will look as good as you when I am 54! You are just incredible; and as far I can see a caring and warm person too! I just hope that you feel good now and don't worry about the scars caused by the surgery. Taking into consideration how good you look, nobody will care about your scars , not to mention that they will fade away too.
The reason why I was surfing this page is because I was searching for as many information as possible regarding chemical peels.I quit exposing my face in the sun for 2-3 years now, but I still have some small hyperpigmentation on my cheeks and I want to get rid of them. They are not very visible , but I know that they are there and I just want to make them fade away for good. I have made my own research and I am not sure if a chemical peel will be ok for me. I mean , I am afraid not to do something wrong. You can imagine that the fizicians from here are not that good as the ones from USA and most of them just want to take away your money... in a word: I do not trust them and I just want to form my own opinion regarding these kind of procedures. I have read that hidroquinone is the only tratament that can help you get read of hyperpigmentation and melasma. Can somebody recommend some products containing hidroquinone? Thank you very much !
The reason why I was surfing this page is because I was searching for as many information as possible regarding chemical peels.I quit exposing my face in the sun for 2-3 years now, but I still have some small hyperpigmentation on my cheeks and I want to get rid of them. They are not very visible , but I know that they are there and I just want to make them fade away for good. I have made my own research and I am not sure if a chemical peel will be ok for me. I mean , I am afraid not to do something wrong. You can imagine that the fizicians from here are not that good as the ones from USA and most of them just want to take away your money... in a word: I do not trust them and I just want to form my own opinion regarding these kind of procedures. I have read that hidroquinone is the only tratament that can help you get read of hyperpigmentation and melasma. Can somebody recommend some products containing hidroquinone? Thank you very much !
September 25, 2012
Hi Ioana... Yes, Michele is a definitely a beauty and she has an incredibly sweet soul as well!! I know the feeling... I felt the same way when I ran across this page... it lures you in and you just can't stop reading! I have heard very good things about the hydroquinone. I used it myself for about 6 months and it left the texture of my skin feeling extremely smooth and supple. Unfortunately, I've come to realize that I have hypo-pigmentation, not hyper-pigmentation, where the spotting on me is light in color rather than dark. The hydroquinone wasn't working on me and being that I live such an outdoor life in So Ca and it's almost impossible for me to stay out of the sun, I stopped using it. From what I've read though, people have had great results from using it. It does take time for the spots to fade so, you have to be patient when using it. Do you have a good dermatologist who you trust that you can see? It sounds like you don't have a lot of faith in the physicians in your area and since you mentioned that your spots are very faint, I think that it's a great idea that you stay away from any chemical peels. There's no need to take the chance of doing some damage to your skin. In my opinion, if you were born with good skin and don't have any scarring from acne or the sun, the best that you can do for your skin, is very basic and simple... stay out of the sun. Anyhow, That's just my opinion... Michele is very knowledgable and I'm sure that she'll get back to you with some great advice. Take care! Peace & light... Rhea
September 26, 2012
Hi all and thank you very much for your quick reply! You guys are just great. Since I have read this page , I learned many useful things and I will follow your advice and not have any chemical peel as it seems not worthy. Indeed my hyperpigmentation is not very visible. I quit tanning when I have noticed that the skin on my face is not very found of sun ( altough the skin on my body is) and I started using SPF every day. Indeed the physicians in my area are not very ...hmmmm... good, most of them are just interested in taking your money. Not to mention that these kind of procedures are quite expensive here if you take into consideration that the average income per month is around 400 dollars and the prices are like in USA ( food, clothes, etc). This is why I always prefer to do my own research when I am interested in buying or doing something. Don't get me wrong , there are many good physicians here too , but I just think that I didn't find the one for me. I will continue with my daily routine and take care of my skin as before and perhaps if the good and kind Michelle or any other of you great girls have some good advice for me , let me know as it seems that I have many new things to learn here.You girls looks just great. You are all beautiful women. Even if you are not in your early 20ties now, you still look just stunning. If you didn't say you age , I would bet that you are 30, maximum 35.All of you. One can easily see that you have taken good care of your bodies all your life and this is a good thing. Still, not only that you look great , but you are also nice people , which is even more important. And hey , it is alright not to be that perfect:))) You know what they say :'' She could have been almost perfect if she had at least one single flaw''. Also I think that even bad things happen for a reason. For example if I haven't noticed this hyperpigmentations on my face on time , perhaps I would have never known about that bad things does sun to our skin...Rhea, I was so sorry to read what happened to you , but still , you must believe me , you are a very attractive woman. Thank you very much for your reply and wise advice. You have just made me change my mind regarding the chemical peels. I am looking forward to hear from you. Take care!
January 26, 2013
Hi there, I am 37 years old. Michele lei e molto simpatica e molto bella :)
So anybody can use Obagi? Or can I just use the retin A only? I have no melasma and my face is quite clear. However I do have some fine lines and wrinkles. I like to use natural cleanser and toner. I use a Vit C Serum as well as hyaluronic acid. I have done five chemical peels and the last one left me with swollen eye lids and face. Terrible, I will never do chemical peels again.
So would the Obagi benefit me? Can I just use the Retin A? Thanks :)
March 7, 2013
Ioana and Essieb - I finally am well enough to respond - health problems have kept me off this site for quite some time. Here's my update on Obagi, and all other "things" that I use to keep my face looking as good as possible at age 55 1/2 (yep, I'm now a year and a 1/2 older since my first post - c'est la vie). Here's is what I've done to keep myself looking younger since I first entered the world of "cosmetic" dermatology/plastic surgery. I've never had any type of surgery done on my face (just an FYI - I'm in practice with a plastic/reconstructive surgeon who is excellent, and I could have any surgery I want for free - that said, I've chosen to maintain my "natural" face, and opted out of something like a face, or eye lift). That said, I do believe in using products that will help me maintain a youthful look. The best product - and I still stand by this endorsement a year later - is the Obagi system. I will admit that the Retin A is hard to take on my sensitive skin (even a year later), but when used regularly my skin is beautiful - flawless, reduction in wrinkles, and all my "brown" spots are completely gone from sun damage. I continue to use the full line of Obagi to this day. I use clear every day (so that the brown spots don't return, and my skin tone remains even). I also use the Tretinoin every day, but use the Retin A product, with blender, about 3 times a week as every day is just too much for my skin.
Additionally, I've used injectables such as Restalyn, Juvederm, etc., on my "laugh" lines and in my lips (minimal amounts applied and only once a year). Due to some of the injectables that I've used for many years (conservatively - notice I don't have a "trout" pout) my skin's ability to reproduce lost collagen has been restored and my wrinkles such as marionette lines (naso-labial folds are far less deep than they were when I was in my 40's). Some of the injectables last up to a year, and help your body over time reproduce the collagen that you lost (please research to find the products that do this as I can't remember which one's that were used). I had fine lines above my lips which have also disappeared, and improved over time with the use of injectables. Lastly, I have had injectable solutions applies around my eyes for crows feet, and the dark areas under the eye - I've had great results. Lastly, I use botox (btw - which doesn't last that long, and must be re-applied quite frequently - every 3-4 months) for small wrinkles in my forehead, and for a slight eye "lift" at the outer corners of my eyes. When administered correctly Botox does a great job a lifting the eyes, and getting rid of forehead wrinkles. I've got a great doctor that is very conservative, and that I've trusted for many years - her name is listed above. My face looks younger every year - and I recently saw a friend I haven't seen in 15 years, and she was amazed that I "looked the same" as I did 15 years ago. So there you have it - Obagi, and conservative injectables. I will not do any form of chemical peel (although I did do one regular Vi Peel, and really didn't have any long term improvement). I will not use lasers as I've seen a lot of bad outcomes especially from Fraxel lasers. I do use lasers for permanent hair removal (works great), and I've had one type of very mild laser to address some small broken capillaries on my face. Other than that no lasers, and no chemical peels as I've just seen too many bad outcomes. So, ladies of the "site" here is, yet again, my honest opinion after working many years in the medical industry, married to a doctor, and seeing every available "product, surgery or procedure" available. My outcome is based on my personal experiences. The best advice I have to give is to never, ever go to some "spa" for any of these procedures as these are strong products that can have adverse effects. I highly recommend only going to board certified physicians in either dermatology, or plastic/reconstructive surgery. My doctor is a plastic/reconstructive surgeon (honestly, I'd never probably go to just a dermatologist although some are quite good with injectables, and laser treatments). The second best advice I can offer is to make sure that your doctor has good reviews - do lots of research, and never go to a clinic that is offering "specials" as I find this to be a questionable practice to just get patients in a to a clinic that needs business. Remember you get what you pay for in this life - cheaper is not always better. This is your face, and any of these products, if used incorrectly, can have lasting adverse effects. Use common sense, don't overdo, and listen to the advice of a good physician. I hope my posting will help those of you that are still wondering what will work best for you. A shout out to Rhea who has some had some tough experiences that she can share - she is a wealth of information, and a beautiful soul. Best of luck to you all...
Michele
March 7, 2013
Michelle, lei e molto simpatica and la ringrazzia moltissimo :) In my country I can easily get Retin A, so I dont have to necessarily try Obagi, plus here in Europe I wouldnt think I can find Obagi. I am going to start some new products with Retinol first. I have read that Retinol is the way to start so as to see whether my skin can tolerate it. I have also in the past purchased Retin A cream (pure) 0.025%. In your experience, how can I combine the two..? Meaning, can I use Retinol Serum 3 TR (Medik 8) in connection with the pure Retin A (like Obagi but different name) 0.025? I dont think 0.025 would do anything, but since I have purchased the Retinol Serum, I wouldnt want to go up to 0.05 yet.
As for the nasolabials, I have a slight, I noticed them since my 37th birthday, beleive it or not. Looks like the only thing that works then, is the Restalyn or Juvederm, even though I dont wish to start injecting. Either way, I highly appreciate your help! I wish I can meet up with your doctor! I am happy to travel to your country to see him or her. thanks and keep updating us :) Would appreciate a reply re Retinol. Cheers Essie
March 7, 2013
Hi Essie,
You should be able to obtain the Obagi Systems worldwide. I'm in the U.K and have no problems finding clinics .
I'm 44 and have been using Obagi Nu Derm System for a year, now at maintenance stage. I was recommended the system by a nurse at my Skincare clinic, I hate dark pigmentation problems at the sides of my face and chin left over from spots and Acne and my skin just looked dull, lifeless and dry despite using various luxury brands.
The thing with Obagi is your skin needs to build tolerance to it so many people give up when their skin goes red and starts peeling and looks awful, but once that's passed, for me it too 12 weeks of peeling and flaking everywhere and then that's when my new, clear healthy skin came through. I'm so glad I used the system as my skin is flawless, glowing and line free.
I don't use make-up like concealer or foundation anymore as its not necessary and people often comment. In regards to Retin A, Obagi recommend mixing Retin A (Tretinoin) cream with their Blender cream and then applying it, they work in unison together and work at a deeper cellular level. The clinic tend to recommend using highest percentage of Retin A and I've always used 0.1%
I saw another Doctor last week as I needed to buy some prescriptive Obagi and I mentioned I'd had Juvederm and Boletero Fillers for my Nasolabial folds but it never lasts more than 2 weeks. He said I need to have Sculptra. I'm considering this as it works over a period of time, the skin begins to make its own Collagen and Elastin and within several months the face looks fuller and lifted, plus results last up to two years. I think when we get to a certain age injecting needs to be the option if you want to look visibly younger, but appreciate not everyone wants to go down that road.
March 7, 2013
Hi Velvetee! Thank you so much! Thing is I am now starting the Medik 8, its acutally from the UK too! So I really have to give thiws a go as I ordered everything, the C E Tetra, the Retinol 3, plus the EGF. I should see an improvement with this! Then I have Retin A 0.025 so I wish to use it too...I gave up on it when I tried it simply because it didnt do anything to me...but I really started slowly, plus the dose is low...
I dont understand how and with what you mix the Retin A....do you have any idea what the Obagi cream blender has in it?
Anyway, thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate your input!
Essie
March 8, 2013
The main active ingredient in the Blender is 4% Hydroquinone which works to regulate pigmentation. As we age pigmentation and age spots can become an issue dulling the complexion. Retin A makes the Blender work deeper into the Dermis and vice versa. I've heard of Medik 8 but have no experience of it. You probably know Retin A should only be used at night, applied before going to bed either every night or every other, ensure skin is dry as moisture from washing can make skin more sensitive to the product. You must always use Sunblock daily regardless of weather as again Retin A makes skin more sensitive to Ultra Violet light. I also have Baby Botox which is a lower dose, I want surface fine lines to not be visible but still want natural movement in my Forehead. Botox can also help manage facial expressions which are one of the causes of deep lines. Looking forward to trying Sculptra which is also known as the Liquid Facelift.
March 8, 2013
Velvetee, thank you again:) Yes I read everything about Retin A but last year I was in a country where I was going to the beach everyday so I couldnt start it, and in previous years, roughly the last 4, everyone said i should start retin A this early, but now lines on forehead are getting deeper and I really should have started something. Never mind, I will try to incorporate Retinol 0.3 with Retin A 0.025. I travel a lot, and in some countries you can get Retin A over the counter! Next time I visit one of these countries I will get the retin A 0.05! Botox I couldnt start for now, I am using Nuface which seems to help a little when I use it to lift my forehead. Doesnt seem to work so much on nasolabials for me, as it does make your face look gaunt too, so I dont use it or glide it on my cheeks area. I dont have pigmentation at all...so for me simple Retin A will do. Do you think the 0.025 will do anything? Do you need to have deep lines to use the 0.05 or 0.1? Thanks.. :) You re so helpful. I guess it trial and error isnt it...
March 13, 2013
Hi again Essieb. Just a question, excuse my ignorance, but what is the difference between Retinol and Retin A? Is Nuface some kind of Radiofrequency device? I've had a course of Indiba which is Radiofrequency and claims to lift the face but it did nothing for me, I've also been considering purchasing a Tripollar Stop device, another RF product. Regarding the strength of Retin A, the last Doctor I spoke to recently said it was best to use the stronger 0.1% cream as the weaker one would mean just using more to get the same effect and it would take longer to see results. I suppose it depends on how tolerant your skin is and most people who start on a lower dose are recommended to gradually build up to the highest, I started on 0.05%. I've never had deep lines or wrinkles and assume the different strengths are for users with sensitive skins to gradually build tolerance to the product. I am still experiencing peeling around the chin area even though I use Retin A and Blender every other day.
March 14, 2013
Hi Velvetee! Retin A is stronger than Retinol. And Retinol is stronger than Retinyl Palmitate that many over the counter products have as ingredient. That is the mildest. Nowadays you can find many good products with Retinol, it is diluted in a serum complex and the good thing about it is it doesnt irritate your skin. I am buying the Medik8 3TR (time Release retinol) but that doesnt mean it is 3 % pure l ike Retin A. They say Retinol is more effective and less irritating long term. I also have the 0.025 retin a cream but wont go higher for now as I am using Retinol so I can alternate between the two. Wish I started Retin a years and years ago! Dont know why I didnt...everyone though I was too young for it...but I had always noticed these wrinkles on my forehead..
December 13, 2013
I'm no expert, but retina can cause ugly uncomfortable sympyoms like peeling, itching, n redness alone.
January 14, 2014
michelle, you have been using obagi nuderm clear for an year but have you read the articles about Hydroquinone can cause cancer after long term use.i am thinking to buy obagi line but the news about hydroquinone causing cancer and FDA has banned this priduct in various countries , put me into confusion.if someone even uses this system for a short period will never ever be able to stop hydroquinone usage as the dark spots and melasma can retuen?
February 4, 2013
Where can you get these from inthe UK or any places that despatch to the UK. Thanks x
May 4, 2014
Many skin care clinics retail the system. I paid just under £500, most of the products lasted the 18 weeks of the programme. Because 3 of the products are prescription only you can't buy the products over the counter and really you have to be monitored every few weeks by the Specialist. The Obagi.com website has list of suppliers in the UK, clinics and Doctors.
UPDATED FROM Michelez
Please see most recent post as I explain my...
MichelezJuly 26, 2012
Please see most recent post as I explain my feelings about Obagi. I've since changed my mind and it has made my skin look beautiful. BTW - I wrote this long review to 3 different women that asked me various questions about peels, Obagi and maintenance. Forgive the grammatical errors as I'm extremely tired and didn't proof read - lol.
Michele
Michele
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July 26, 2012
I'm sorry I've taken so long to respond to Syl, Worried and now Velvetee. I will answer the questions in order. Syl, if you look back at my posts I wasn't sure that I was very impressed with the Obagi system, but shortly after making that posts things really changed. It took about 3 months (one cycle of Obagi), and all of a sudden my skin's clarity improved, wrinkles appeared smaller, skin was smooth and soft (not like this since I was 20), and all my brown spots from sun damage were completely gone. In researching Obagi doctor's found that the "system" worked better as it had all the creams that are necessary to improving aging skin and its associated problems. Additionally, it "worked better" because it had all the necessary medications in one system: therefore female patients were more compliant in their usage as they didn't have to figure out how to make all these creams work, and what order in which to apply them. In summation, I think you should spend the money for the Obagi, forget about getting independent prescriptions, and see what you think. I bought my second round of Obagi on Tuesday (btw I use Tretinoin .05%), and the full package costs around $460.00 in Seattle. Honestly my skin looks better than it has in years. Warning, when you first start this program the Tretinoin and the Exfoderm Forte ( 6% glycolic acid and 4% lactic acid) along with the Tretinoin can cause sores, peelings, and general "ugliness." Please, please use common sense and if you're skin is having a hard time with the creams stop the Tretinoin and Exfoderm Forte for a few days to allow your sking to heal, and then resume. I had to do this quite a few times until my skin became acclimated to the product. I'm very happy with the results and my skin looks better than it has in years. My plastic/reconstructive doc told me to do a second 3 month round and then on the Obagi maintenance program - so that's what I'm doing - good luck
Worried - I've been working with plastic/reconstructive surgeons for over 25 years and I've never heard about the Melanage Peel. Here's what I know about peels unless you are very, very fair skinned you can have permanent discoloring from chemical peels, burns, scarring, and on and on. The only peel that I would put on my face is the Vi Peel (the now have a strong Vi Peel and I'm even reluctant to use that). Vi Peel is the only peel that can be used on women with all skin colors. I did a Vi Peel (one), and my skin looked good, but it wasn't a miracle. It did not get rid of my sun damaged brown spots, wrinkles, large pores, etc. - it did make my skin smoother, softer and clearer - not as rough. Vi Peel recommends using their peel every 3 months for a year. It's so easy you can actually do this at home following the directions carefully. You will look like hell for about 7-10 days with sheets of skin peeling off your face. I liked the Vi Peel, but I've had way better results with Obagi. Additionally, the down time of one week was really annoying - you look really bad after this peel. Try Obagi, first, then if your're still not satisfied tried a Vi Peel. Given I've never heard of the Melanage peel I can't offer an opinion, but do know that the majority of peels can have severe complications in the wrong hands. A chemical peel should NEVER be administered by anyone other than a physician - not an esthetician!!!!!!! I wish you look - if you must do a peel start with the Vi Peels.
Lastly Velvetee, as stated above I'm going on my second round of Obagi - which will be a total of 6 months then their maintenance regime. I've used fillers - none permanent (like lip augmentations, etc.). I love Radiesse as it lasts a really long time - you must make sure the right filler is used in the right area of the body. For example one filler that is great for creating volume in your cheek area causes lumps in your lips if used there. Do your due diligence, and read about all the fillers on the market. I don't love Botox as it doesn't last long, and the results are never exact. That said I get Botow about twice a years. Radiesse has been the filler that I'm happiest with as it actually rebuilds your own collagen and you need to use less filler over time. I now only go once a year for filler's, and make sure I go to a Board Certified Plastic/Reconstructive surgeon. Additionally, my doctor is very conservative as I want a very natural look - I want to look good, but don't want trout pout, triangle face (Madonna), or a myriad of other problems. The two things I'm very afraid of due to their complication rates are lasers and chemical peels. I've seen some horrible permanent scarring from both these procedures, and as you read above I've only had ONE VI PEEL, and I wasn't that impressed. For another perspective on complications from laser peels read Rhea's post. Just remember plastic surgery, peels and laser treatments are serious procedures that in some case can disfigure you for life, and in the case of surgery cost you your life.
Obviously I'm not opposed to using a little help, but I really know the doctor's doing the work on me, I never go to medi "spas," I research extensively the procedure I'm going to have done, and I ask my doctor a million questions. Remember this is your face once the damage is done you can never go back. So...go slow, do your research, and go to the best doctor possible. Last, but far from least, if the price is so low it seems good to be true than it probably is - don't fall for specials, coupons - nothing. A doctor that does these things is not the doctor you want to see.
I hope I've answered all your questions, and have helped to educate you in this area.
Best Wishes Ladies...
Michele
Worried - I've been working with plastic/reconstructive surgeons for over 25 years and I've never heard about the Melanage Peel. Here's what I know about peels unless you are very, very fair skinned you can have permanent discoloring from chemical peels, burns, scarring, and on and on. The only peel that I would put on my face is the Vi Peel (the now have a strong Vi Peel and I'm even reluctant to use that). Vi Peel is the only peel that can be used on women with all skin colors. I did a Vi Peel (one), and my skin looked good, but it wasn't a miracle. It did not get rid of my sun damaged brown spots, wrinkles, large pores, etc. - it did make my skin smoother, softer and clearer - not as rough. Vi Peel recommends using their peel every 3 months for a year. It's so easy you can actually do this at home following the directions carefully. You will look like hell for about 7-10 days with sheets of skin peeling off your face. I liked the Vi Peel, but I've had way better results with Obagi. Additionally, the down time of one week was really annoying - you look really bad after this peel. Try Obagi, first, then if your're still not satisfied tried a Vi Peel. Given I've never heard of the Melanage peel I can't offer an opinion, but do know that the majority of peels can have severe complications in the wrong hands. A chemical peel should NEVER be administered by anyone other than a physician - not an esthetician!!!!!!! I wish you look - if you must do a peel start with the Vi Peels.
Lastly Velvetee, as stated above I'm going on my second round of Obagi - which will be a total of 6 months then their maintenance regime. I've used fillers - none permanent (like lip augmentations, etc.). I love Radiesse as it lasts a really long time - you must make sure the right filler is used in the right area of the body. For example one filler that is great for creating volume in your cheek area causes lumps in your lips if used there. Do your due diligence, and read about all the fillers on the market. I don't love Botox as it doesn't last long, and the results are never exact. That said I get Botow about twice a years. Radiesse has been the filler that I'm happiest with as it actually rebuilds your own collagen and you need to use less filler over time. I now only go once a year for filler's, and make sure I go to a Board Certified Plastic/Reconstructive surgeon. Additionally, my doctor is very conservative as I want a very natural look - I want to look good, but don't want trout pout, triangle face (Madonna), or a myriad of other problems. The two things I'm very afraid of due to their complication rates are lasers and chemical peels. I've seen some horrible permanent scarring from both these procedures, and as you read above I've only had ONE VI PEEL, and I wasn't that impressed. For another perspective on complications from laser peels read Rhea's post. Just remember plastic surgery, peels and laser treatments are serious procedures that in some case can disfigure you for life, and in the case of surgery cost you your life.
Obviously I'm not opposed to using a little help, but I really know the doctor's doing the work on me, I never go to medi "spas," I research extensively the procedure I'm going to have done, and I ask my doctor a million questions. Remember this is your face once the damage is done you can never go back. So...go slow, do your research, and go to the best doctor possible. Last, but far from least, if the price is so low it seems good to be true than it probably is - don't fall for specials, coupons - nothing. A doctor that does these things is not the doctor you want to see.
I hope I've answered all your questions, and have helped to educate you in this area.
Best Wishes Ladies...
Michele
July 26, 2012
Hello my dear Michele and beautiful ladies... I just read your post... you are so right on!... when it comes to laser treatments or peels... ladies PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!! I now have white spots on both sides of my face and I have to live with this for the rest of my life... all the result of a laser resurfacing treatment. Something very important that Michele mentioned... do not go for the coupons/groupons!!!... she's very right... if the price is so low, that it seems too good to be true, than it is! I fell for a groupon and after all was said and the damage was done, the doctor... which I found out wasn't really a doctor but an assistant, was offering me another $1,500 laser treatment for FREE to try to rectify the spotting that the first laser treatment had caused. I DID NOT accept this free treatment... that's how terrified of lasers I am! I will never let anyone touch me with a laser again! I do realize that some people have good outcomes... otherwise, the treatments would not exist. Sadly enough though, you have no idea if you're going to be the one who ends up with a good result or not. You'll only find out once it's too late and the damage has already been done. Ladies... Michele has been a true blessing to me!... she has taught me so much about how important it is to do your research and the information that she's shared with me has been priceless! Anyone who runs across her posts should find themselves very fortunate... she's a walking encyclopedia of beauty knowledge! Good luck ladies!
Peace & light
Rhea
Peace & light
Rhea
July 26, 2012
BTW Ladies - Sorry for all the grammar errors I was beyond tired when I wrote last nights post, but I felt bad for being so tardy in my response to everyone. So...forgive me...
Michele
Michele
August 11, 2012
Hello Michelez,
You are so informative!!! I am glad I came across this thread. I had a series of mild chemical peels. It was a total of 6. My dermatologist uses the Image skincare line. I had mild flaking. I have also done botox 8 units each side around the eyes about 4 or 5 times now.
At first I noticed my skin looked great for a couple of weeks and then it seemed to go back to what it was before the peel. It was recommended that I do the series to really see an improvement. My evenness improved however, I seem to have more creping and lines near my eyes (under eye area extending down to my cheeks) now.
I'm not sure if this is due to the peels or botox. I read that you use a filler to plump up your cheeks. I was wondering what you use and will it help with the lines and creping? Any help you can give I would REALLY appreciate!
Thanks,
Peg
You are so informative!!! I am glad I came across this thread. I had a series of mild chemical peels. It was a total of 6. My dermatologist uses the Image skincare line. I had mild flaking. I have also done botox 8 units each side around the eyes about 4 or 5 times now.
At first I noticed my skin looked great for a couple of weeks and then it seemed to go back to what it was before the peel. It was recommended that I do the series to really see an improvement. My evenness improved however, I seem to have more creping and lines near my eyes (under eye area extending down to my cheeks) now.
I'm not sure if this is due to the peels or botox. I read that you use a filler to plump up your cheeks. I was wondering what you use and will it help with the lines and creping? Any help you can give I would REALLY appreciate!
Thanks,
Peg
July 27, 2012
Hi Michele,
It's great you're giving Obagi Nu Derm another go. I'm not entirely clear about maintenance as the clinic I attend was a little vague, so next week when I have my Radiance Blue Peel I'll check, but at the moment I'm cleansing and toning in the morning followed by Obagi Professional C Serum and the Sunscreen SPF 50.
In the evening I'm still using Clear every night but only on stubborn areas which are the sides of my face and chin and every other night I use Exfoderm or Tretinoin, I only mix the blender and Tretinoin on the stubborn areas.
The only issue I'm still having is the sides of my face aren't blending with the rest of my tone but I've found that's improving since I started removing the cleanser with a wet, warm Muslin cloth, seems to slough off the dead skin cells which won't budge easily. Also I started getting much lighter skin tone at the side of my eyes and temples so I'm now careful to avoid using the Hydroquinone products in those areas.
I've found it's been a lot of trial and error with finding what works best for my particular skintone with the products even though the clinic have provided advice, guess everyone is different and each skin will behave differently with Nu Derm.
I'm just glad I found Obagi as not only is my skin quite clear and line free but there has also been a lift, my Nasolabial folds are much less visible. I still have a slight line on my forehead so may try Baby Botox and once I've lost weight will have some kind of Hyaluronic Acid filler, I've tried Juvederm a few years ago but it only lasted a week so had to have it redone, but I know there are different strengths of Juvederm Ultra to suit individual requirements.
Keep us updated with your Obagi progress please Michele. I love to hear success stories.
It's great you're giving Obagi Nu Derm another go. I'm not entirely clear about maintenance as the clinic I attend was a little vague, so next week when I have my Radiance Blue Peel I'll check, but at the moment I'm cleansing and toning in the morning followed by Obagi Professional C Serum and the Sunscreen SPF 50.
In the evening I'm still using Clear every night but only on stubborn areas which are the sides of my face and chin and every other night I use Exfoderm or Tretinoin, I only mix the blender and Tretinoin on the stubborn areas.
The only issue I'm still having is the sides of my face aren't blending with the rest of my tone but I've found that's improving since I started removing the cleanser with a wet, warm Muslin cloth, seems to slough off the dead skin cells which won't budge easily. Also I started getting much lighter skin tone at the side of my eyes and temples so I'm now careful to avoid using the Hydroquinone products in those areas.
I've found it's been a lot of trial and error with finding what works best for my particular skintone with the products even though the clinic have provided advice, guess everyone is different and each skin will behave differently with Nu Derm.
I'm just glad I found Obagi as not only is my skin quite clear and line free but there has also been a lift, my Nasolabial folds are much less visible. I still have a slight line on my forehead so may try Baby Botox and once I've lost weight will have some kind of Hyaluronic Acid filler, I've tried Juvederm a few years ago but it only lasted a week so had to have it redone, but I know there are different strengths of Juvederm Ultra to suit individual requirements.
Keep us updated with your Obagi progress please Michele. I love to hear success stories.
UPDATED FROM Michelez
Quick update on Obagi, brown spots, skin texture...
MichelezApril 19, 2012
Quick update on Obagi, brown spots, skin texture and fine wrinkles. So, I started Obagi at the beginning of March and it's now the end of April. Initially I didn't think that my skin would peel that much, but it flaked and peeled a lot around my chin for quite some time. I've not had any serious peeling on my cheeks, or forehead, although brown spots have literally come off. I've now been on Obagi for about a month and 3 weeks. My brown spots are definitely fading, and the initial extreme dryness of my skin (from the Obagi creams) is getting better. On Real Self I read about many women that developed sores, cracks, etc., from Obagi - that would have been caused from the Tretinoin. When my skin got too sensitive/sore I backed off the Tretinoin for a day, or two, and then resumed using it. I found this common sense approach worked great and I never really had any raw areas of skin. My skin is still dryer than usual, but I do tend to have very dry post menopausal skin. The dry skin is a side-effect of using Retin A's, Tretinoin, etc., and will improve, and actually get much better when you complete the regime. So...here's my half way update to completion. Thus far, my skin despite the dryness looks much better - brown spots are fading, texture is improving and fine wrinkles are disappearing. I'll let you know when I complete the 12-18 weeks that it takes to finish this regime. Just remember beauty is from within...
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April 19, 2012
Leeloo3 -
Hey it's Michele I've been off the internet, but just saw your post. First piece of advice - do not do any type of prescription peel at home. If you read my earlier posts I'm married to a physician, and have been warned (strongly) that there are many "fake" products sold over the internet. The gentlest peel on the market, and the only one that a darker skinned person, such as Italians (you and me) can use is the Vi Peel. I know that they do the Vi Peel on the chest. There are two types of Vi Peels - the original which is not as "deep," and a newer version that penetrates more. I would never use the deeper peel first - I would start with the first one. If you read my earlier posts I did the original Vi Peel on my face. The peel doesn't hurt, but your skin peels off in sheets and you look fairly ugly for about a week. Some women have had allergic reactions so it would be wise to do a test spot, first, to make sure you can tolerate the product. Vi Peel has a site and you can learn more about it there, and also find doctors in NYC that do the peel. To get rid of age spots on your chest Vi Peel recommends a series of 4 over a year - every 3 months. I did only one peel on my face, and my skin looked better, but it did not get rid of the brown spots - they faded a bit, but then I only had one peel.
I've now been using Obagi (they also have a site) - the complete "system." I've been on it since the beginning of March and it's quite a commitment, and expensive. The reason I decided to use Obagi is that a female plastic surgeon that I know had terrible melasma, and now her face looks great after using Obagi. You should, again, not buy this over the internet, but only from a doctor's office. The creams are prescription strength and include hydroquinone, Retin A and Tretinoin .05%. These creams will cause your brown spots to fade, clear up the texture of your skin and smooth fine lines and wrinkles. Some women have had great results, and other's not so much. I've seen a marked improvement in my brown spots and skin texture, but it's a battle as it's very drying, and you have constantly flaking skin for quite some time. The recommended course is 12 to 18 weeks. I'm leaving for Hawaii on Monday, and I'm going to have to be very careful with my face as Tretinoin makes you susceptible to additional sun damage. Just know that there is no perfect fix, and that all these products take time to work. You will see marked improvement, but never perfect 20 y/o skin again (and hell I'd never want to be 20 again, anyway - lol). Megan's suggestion for prescription strength Retin A is great as they have a 1% cream as the skin is much "thicker" on your chest versus your face. It's a great place to start as opposed to the financial commitment that you have to make with the Obagi system.
PS Rhea how's it going - is your face getting better - hang in there, girl, I'll write you when I get back from Maui. BTW - I'm going to be "bad" and at least get a little tan on the old body - just not the face.
Hey it's Michele I've been off the internet, but just saw your post. First piece of advice - do not do any type of prescription peel at home. If you read my earlier posts I'm married to a physician, and have been warned (strongly) that there are many "fake" products sold over the internet. The gentlest peel on the market, and the only one that a darker skinned person, such as Italians (you and me) can use is the Vi Peel. I know that they do the Vi Peel on the chest. There are two types of Vi Peels - the original which is not as "deep," and a newer version that penetrates more. I would never use the deeper peel first - I would start with the first one. If you read my earlier posts I did the original Vi Peel on my face. The peel doesn't hurt, but your skin peels off in sheets and you look fairly ugly for about a week. Some women have had allergic reactions so it would be wise to do a test spot, first, to make sure you can tolerate the product. Vi Peel has a site and you can learn more about it there, and also find doctors in NYC that do the peel. To get rid of age spots on your chest Vi Peel recommends a series of 4 over a year - every 3 months. I did only one peel on my face, and my skin looked better, but it did not get rid of the brown spots - they faded a bit, but then I only had one peel.
I've now been using Obagi (they also have a site) - the complete "system." I've been on it since the beginning of March and it's quite a commitment, and expensive. The reason I decided to use Obagi is that a female plastic surgeon that I know had terrible melasma, and now her face looks great after using Obagi. You should, again, not buy this over the internet, but only from a doctor's office. The creams are prescription strength and include hydroquinone, Retin A and Tretinoin .05%. These creams will cause your brown spots to fade, clear up the texture of your skin and smooth fine lines and wrinkles. Some women have had great results, and other's not so much. I've seen a marked improvement in my brown spots and skin texture, but it's a battle as it's very drying, and you have constantly flaking skin for quite some time. The recommended course is 12 to 18 weeks. I'm leaving for Hawaii on Monday, and I'm going to have to be very careful with my face as Tretinoin makes you susceptible to additional sun damage. Just know that there is no perfect fix, and that all these products take time to work. You will see marked improvement, but never perfect 20 y/o skin again (and hell I'd never want to be 20 again, anyway - lol). Megan's suggestion for prescription strength Retin A is great as they have a 1% cream as the skin is much "thicker" on your chest versus your face. It's a great place to start as opposed to the financial commitment that you have to make with the Obagi system.
PS Rhea how's it going - is your face getting better - hang in there, girl, I'll write you when I get back from Maui. BTW - I'm going to be "bad" and at least get a little tan on the old body - just not the face.
April 19, 2012
OMY GODDESSS HAWAII!I MY DREAM RETIREMENT AND OMY GODDESS MICHELE SEI PROPRIO SIMPATICA! thank you thank you thank you ...will wait till after summer to anything...and by then i will have saved enuf to see a doc about the v-peel...also what do you recommend while its peeling= creams? and a soft buff pad?
grazie mille,
grazie mille,
April 19, 2012
Hi Michele!!! I think that my face is getting better... I don't look at it too closely anymore. : ) I love Maui!!!... I go every year in Oct/Nov for a few weeks. This year will be the first year that I go and I'm not able to worship the sun... what am I gonna do???!!! I hope that you have a great time!!!... enjoy the warmth of that beautiful sun... bad girl! : ) I'm jealous!!! Peace light & love.
April 19, 2012
Thanks for posting your 1/2 way mark update for the Obagi system. Do you happen to know what the system retails for at the offices its sold in? I'm guessing there are a few variances on what products are available, but if you happen to know the price point for the basic stuff, face wash, moisturizer, sunscreen, etc. I'd love to hear.
Have a fantastic time in Maui!!! With the little teaser amounts of sun that we've been having hear in Seattle I bet you can't wait to get to some truly gorgeous weather!!
April 20, 2012
Do not use anything other than the items that come with the Vi Peel. The chemicals in the peel will do all the work for you. In fact, if you used a buff pad it might cause too much peeling, and potential problems. The one thing that I LOVE is the Clarisonic facial brush - it's super gentle, you don't apply any pressure it does all the work. I've been using it while on Obagi, and it gets rids of all the flaky skin so I can go out without looking like I have dandruff of the face - lol. The Vi Peel comes with all the moisturizers, etc., that you need for the peel so you don't need anything else. Hope that info helps...
April 20, 2012
thank youuuuuuuuuuuu Michelez...im definitely goint to take all your info and use it ...you are a light! have fun in Maui!
April 19, 2012
MICHELE LOOKS 35!
April 20, 2012
Leeloo3... she certainly does look 35... it's absolutely amazing! She's beautiful on the inside and on the out! I agree, she is a light... a light that has guided me through a difficult time... a true caring soul. Btw... I have a version of the Clarisonic facial brush and I LOVE it as well! It leaves your skin feeling incredibly smooth! When and if you do the Vi peel, please keep us posted... I'd love to know how it works for you. I would like to try the Vi peel on my chest and either the Obagi or Vi peel on my face. Unfortunately I need to wait a few more months before I can do anything... my face needs to heal from the damage that was caused by the lasers. Take care!!! Peace light & love
April 20, 2012
Megan I'm seeing Dr. Wong tomorrow so I will ask her. Unfortunately I'm sure of the price, but I will find out tomorrow and post before I go on my trip. I know this it's not cheap. It includes the following:
Cleanser, Toner to return PH of skin, Clear - hydroquinone (4%), Exoderm Forte (prescription strength Retin A - 6% glycolic acid and 4% lactic acid) - used in the morning only), sunscreen (used in the morning) and a "blender" which is 4% hydroquinone and lastly you mix the blender with Tretinoin (.05%). There's the whole regime. They do offer a stronger version of the Tretinoin at .01%, but that's pretty strong if you've never used it. I found the .05% strong enough. The Retin A's and especially the Tretinoin make your skin very susceptible to sunburn, and additional hyperpigmentation so I may stop using in Hawaii, or continue, wear a very strong sunscreen and hat. My skin looks so much better, and I'd hate to start this whole process all over again as my skins finally stopped peeling, and is looking much, much better. I let you know the price tomorrow. BTW - Rena is an amazing plastic surgeon, and good soul. She sells the obagi at her office, and does many other procedures. I've known her for years and I can highly recommend her for anyone in the Seattle area. No fancy office, just a great surgeon, with "good hands." In fact, my spouse says he's one of the most meticulous surgeons he's ever seen.
Cleanser, Toner to return PH of skin, Clear - hydroquinone (4%), Exoderm Forte (prescription strength Retin A - 6% glycolic acid and 4% lactic acid) - used in the morning only), sunscreen (used in the morning) and a "blender" which is 4% hydroquinone and lastly you mix the blender with Tretinoin (.05%). There's the whole regime. They do offer a stronger version of the Tretinoin at .01%, but that's pretty strong if you've never used it. I found the .05% strong enough. The Retin A's and especially the Tretinoin make your skin very susceptible to sunburn, and additional hyperpigmentation so I may stop using in Hawaii, or continue, wear a very strong sunscreen and hat. My skin looks so much better, and I'd hate to start this whole process all over again as my skins finally stopped peeling, and is looking much, much better. I let you know the price tomorrow. BTW - Rena is an amazing plastic surgeon, and good soul. She sells the obagi at her office, and does many other procedures. I've known her for years and I can highly recommend her for anyone in the Seattle area. No fancy office, just a great surgeon, with "good hands." In fact, my spouse says he's one of the most meticulous surgeons he's ever seen.
April 20, 2012
Oops one more typo and clarification. She, not he, is a great surgeon. Lastly, you use the Tretinoin and blender only once a day before bedtime. Sorry for all the typo's, etc., I'm tired
May 20, 2012
I have been reading your post about the obagi. I had considered using it. I did notice that it has hydroquinone in it. I have very sensitive skin that reacts badly to glycolic acid and hydroquinon so I do not think I will be able to use it. I am in my early 20's and have melasma, sun damage and hyperpigmentation from old acne scars. My skin is a hot mess. Do you have any other suggestion?
Thanks
Thanks
May 20, 2012
Hydroquinone is the only cream that I know of that actually helps melasma. In fact, certain types of laser (see above posts from Rhea) have actually caused melasma to worsen so be very careful. I, also, have very sensitive skin read my posts about starting out with the creams very slowly - every other day, or even every 2-3 days. Over time my skin became acclimated to the hydroquinone and glycolic acids. Obagi has improved my skin immensely, but it will still not completely get rid of all brown spots. I was just in Hawaii, and noticed that some that had faded started to come back even through I was still on Obagi, and using a high SPF sun screen. In other words, there is no miracle cure, but you can definitely get marked improvement - just expect perfection (and who'd want to be perfect, anyway - lol). Hope this information helps feel free to ask me any other questions. Good luck...
May 20, 2012
Hi natorade... I read your post and just want to advise you to please be very careful with whatever treatment you choose to use on your face. Careful with the lasers!!!... they can make your melasma worse! Over the years, I've spent a lot of time in the sun but, didn't have any signs of melasma until I had a laser treatment. I now need to stay out of the sun completely and wear sunscreen everyday... I'm a very outdoorsy person and I live coastal so, it's been very trying on me. I've been using the hydroquinone for a couple of months now and I see a very slight improvement... I've been told that it can take a long time... up to a year or longer before you see an obvious difference but, you need to be patient. : ) I wish you the best! Peace & light. Btw... Michelez is a sweetheart and has great information... you came to the right person!
Please read my final Obagi review I think you might be surprised ;-)
Michele
Just read it! Glad you are loving what it has done for you. I bought a toner from one of the PS's office, but I'm still having a hard time justifying the price...but with the battle I've been having with my skin its sounding better and better all the time.
Thank you for being so faithful with your updates, so we could follow you through and see what your thoughts were on the product line. Much appreciated!! :)