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Not Happy with Cheek Lift (Mid-face Suspension) - Scottsdale, AZ

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I can't remember how much the procedure, by...

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Jezzebel

I can't remember how much the procedure, by itself cost. I paid for four at once, which totaled $18,500.00

Cheek lift moving my own facial fat back up is even and seems to have stuck, but it also resulted in bigger cheeks than I had naturally even as a young woman. I don't like it.

It also pulled my upper lip up and in a little so it doesn't stick out as far as my lower lip in profile, and when I smile it feels like my cheeks are pushing up into my eye area too high, probably because I've never had this exact shape of cheeks before.

Another after-effect is that where he went into my cheeks through my mouth, it feels like I have wads of cotton stuffed up under my upper-lip on both sides. Also, it often feels like have something wet on the corners of my upper lip when there is nothing there. I keep touching myself to make sure I haven't drooled on myself or something.

Worse, it changed my smile. Now my smile is tight against my chipmunk cheeks and pulls tight under my nose, from cheek to cheek, which not only pulls at my nostrils, but creates a ridge below my nose and above my upper lip. I hate it. I liked my old smile, which was a pretty.

Smiling isn't very comfortable now due to the tight pulling/stretching on my face, pulling on my nostrils, and the sense of pressure pushing up under my eyes. When I smile the pulling reminds me that I have that weird, stretched ridge under my nose, so between that and it not feeling comfortable, I don't smile nearly as much as I used to.

After leaving the surgeon's, I've never had a single phone call or email from his office that I didn't initiate. Not at six months, except when I contacted them and then his assistant didn't get back to me in a timely fashion until I was irritated and let her know it.

After six months I went back for a correction to another procedure done at the same time. When I tried to tell him how I felt about my smile, he did not want to hear it and told me not to be a glass half-full person. Six months after the corrective procedure, I've never heard from his office. Since I didn't contact them for anything, they have no idea how I am or how his work turned out.

My surgeon did not tell me his recommended cheek lift would change my smile. If I'd known, I wouldn't have agreed to do it.

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The doctor sometimes had good bedside manner and sometimes didn't. It depended on his mood and how distracted he was. When we talked on the phone because I live elsewhere, he always sounded distracted. For that reason, I rated him low for that. He did not answer all of the questions I emailed to him, and he did not answer all my questions in person. He answered those he wanted to answer and the others he brushed off. There's been no aftercare follow-up. After the surgery over two years ago, his staff did not contact me Once to see how I was doing, even though they knew I was making a stop in another state different from my own home state and then traveling on home a few weeks after that. The doctor reassured me that his office would not just abandon me because I was leaving his state, but I never heard a word from any one of them. Not once. After I returned to my own state, again I heard from no one in his office. Not once. They did not respond to emails when I asked them to until I was a little angry about it. After the surgical revision to my lumpy chin six months after the first surgery, no one from his office ever contacted me for any reason whatsoever. Not once. He sent me away with a huge scar under my chin, and he knew I was unhappy about my smile, but he never once contacted me to ask how I was healing or if I was happy. So much for the claims regarding dedication to achieving patient satisfaction made in his written material and on his website. I paid cash, and he was more expensive than the average. Wait times were fine. His medical team seemed fine, and I liked his anesthesiologist a lot. The aftercare transportation and facility wasn't that good. The driver was talking about me on his phone in the van, and braking hard. He couldn't find the door to the place and had me in the hot Arizona sun without anything covering my face. My sutures, especially on my eyes, felt like they were on fire. The day nurses were nice, but one of the night nurses was impatient and curt. Another patient in the room kept waking me up all night with her computer and music. A few weeks before the surgery, I talked to his patient coordinator and told her that I thought I was rushing into it so I had decided I should think about it some more and wanted to cancel my surgery. She assertively insisted cold-feet nerves were normal, but everything would be wonderful and I would be so happy that I really needed to trust the doctor and go through with it. I told her I was worried about ending up with a lumpy chin. She insisted I had nothing to worry about, and said, "Oh no! You will have a smooth, firm chin. You'll love it and be very happy. Trust the doctor." I did, and I ended up with a lumpy, lopsided chin, which he fixed by leaving me with a very large, visible scar running from my chin down to my throat. It is noticeable, especially the skin pulled and puckered where the incision ends at my throat. After feeling sort of pushed into the surgery, because I initially had asked for only a consult but as soon as the doctor was finished doing the consult I was taken to the patient coordinator to look at photos and schedule my surgery as though it was given, she was insistent about the need to schedule quickly, and then she was so insistent about not letting me back out, I now think she was working on commission. I was inexperienced and naive so did not realize that was the way it worked, not like a regular doctor's or surgeon’s office. No one in a physician's office who deals with encouraging medical procedures should be working on commission for this very reason. I also felt like up-selling was going on, because I was talked into the mid-face cheek lift when I wasn't asking for one, I was happy with my cheeks as they were but the doctor insisted the procedure would “create a better outcome,” and then the doctor tried to convince me to have a $5000.00 laser procedure afterward, talking about it as though it was a given, when I'd never asked for it and it had never been brought up before my surgery. After the first surgery over two years ago, I was sent away with no instructions for scar care nor even told that I needed surgical tape to replace what was under my chin, nor instructions on tissue care. Because I was having trouble getting time for specific questions answered about how long I had to sleep sitting up, how long to wear the chin band, and other timeline questions, before I was ushered out the last time, I grabbed a piece of paper and wrote those questions down and had him fill in the answers before I left his office the final time. When I asked about creams or something for the incisions and to prevent scarring, his staff looked like they didn't know what I was talking about. When I asked him, he told them to get me two facial creams that would prepare my skin for laser resurfacing. I paid about $250.00 for them and they made me break out so I ended up throwing them away. (I told him that, and he had no response.) He said nothing about scar creams, surgical tape, tissue care, or anything else to do with aftercare. After I left the state, I called his office 2.5 weeks later when the surgical tape I left his office wearing was scuzzy and sliding off. I'd not heard a word from his office since I'd left even though he'd reassured me they would follow-up with me so I did not need to feel insecure about leaving. I wanted to know if I could just throw the surgical tape away and to verify I didn't need it anymore. That's when I was told I was supposed to be changing it regularly and I needed to wear it for the next three months! I tromped through the rain in the city I was in (not my own home city) looking for a pharmacy that sold it, wondering how in the heck they'd sent me away without explaining it to me and giving me a roll of surgical tape? I've never had a surgery where the surgeon's office didn't send me away with what I needed! When I saw him six months later for the revision of my lumpy, lopsided under-chin, I told him about it and he argued with me, telling me that it wasn't true they sent me away without instructions because they are very careful about that. He said I just didn't remember because of what I'd gone through (my daughter was at all of my appointments and she verified to me that no one talked to me about aftercare). He said to ensure I couldn't forget the second time, he would send me home with the instructions written down (as if that shouldn’t be the norm and isn’t what surgeons usually do). Didn’t happen. There was no discussion at all about scar prevention until *I* specifically asked *him* about Mederma as he was preparing to leave, and then he said yes to do that. I also left with nothing in writing again. (It isn't only me because I know another of his patients who had the same experience: no instructions for wound care and scar prevention, and she never heard a word from anyone in his practice after she left. No one even called her to check up and see if she was having any problems.) To get any follow-up that doesn't include an office visit, the patient has to initiate it and be persistent. I haven't even bothered to contact him over my horrible smile because when I went back for the chin revision, he made it clear he had no interest in what I had to say about my self-consciousness over my smile, interrupted me to say “don't be a glass half-full person,” and he also had no interest in tweaking my eye-lids even though he'd previously said when I went back he would tweak them if needed because doing multiple procedure at once causes so much swelling it is difficult to assess how much eyelid skin really needs to be removed. Because of the swelling from multiple procedures when he did my eyelids, he did not remove enough to make that much of a difference, and he'd acknowledged that would happen because of the swelling, but when I went back, I guess because I'd refused anymore expensive procedures, he refused to acknowledge the issue, changed the subject, and did not follow through on his "tweaking" promise. What he was interested in was a $5000.00 laser re-surfacing to "finish off" the other work (which was never mentioned in my initial consultation), but my skin is in much better shape than most women my age and two other doctors told me no way was I a candidate for such deep burning of my face. I don't like the shiny look that skin is left with after that procedure either. Because of my ruined smile (way too tight, sort of joker looking, with a distinct thick ridge running horizontally under my nose) and what he needed to correct from the first surgery, I decided not to follow his recommendation regarding the face resurfacing, but instead waited to see how the revision went first. I guess since I wasn't there to purchase another expensive procedure, he had no interest in keeping his word about my eyelids and he didn't care to live up to his written material about caring so much about the satisfaction his patients feel about their outcomes. Given the unhappy result of his revision (which I will write about under face lift/neck surgery), I'm glad I didn't agree to the facial resurfacing.

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November 4, 2011

Thanks for sharing your story, Jezzebel. I'm sorry the surgery didn't work out for you. Do you plan to see a different doctor to try to reverse it?

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December 11, 2014
I have not done so. First, I don't have anymore extra funds to throw away, and even if I did, I am afraid of just making things worse.
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November 7, 2011
Hi Sharon,

No I don't plan to have a reversal. Not only is it that much more money, but I'm afraid now of what could happen that might be worse!

The surgeon did do a corrective procedure to my chin because it was severely lumpy and lopsided after he did a chin lift, but he left me with a huge jagged scar under my chin that runs to the top of my throat, and he stitched it so that it is tight at my throat, creating an obvious pulled look. I will see someone about improving the scar, but I'm afraid of any more actual surgery.
October 20, 2014
I had a very similar experience, and now I look like a modern day Frankenstein. Women refuse to make eye contact with me and I live knowing I will be rejected probably for the rest of my life. My doctor actually yelled at me and blamed me and my body's healing ability for the results. Telling me that lots of people look this way. I too am terrified to even try to have corrections done as I may come away looking even worse than I already do. I pretty much just live in isolation now.
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December 11, 2014
I'm sorry, Thomas7556. I think cosmetic surgeons lose touch with what "natural" looks like, so when they promise natural results, they are doing so with a distorted perception regarding what natural actually looks like. The obvious signs of surgery and frozen faces are their new norm, which they then use as the standard for comparison. I wish I'd understood that sooner.
December 12, 2014
December 10, 2014
Can I combine cheek implant and blepharoplast surgery at the same day? And how much will that cost?.
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December 11, 2014
You can, but when I did it I did not get very good results because of all the swelling that interfered with the surgeon's ability to assess how much to remove. I cannot tell you how much it would cost. That would depend on the surgeon.
December 11, 2014
I'm not sure about the implant, I had an actual cheek lift where the muscle was lifted off the bone and positioned higher on my face. Big mistake and never even wanted my cheeks done. It was the doctor who suggested it. However, I caution you to only consult an oculoplastic surgeon, someone who specializes in the eyes and face area. Do not use a general plastic surgeon. That was my downfall in my decision. The guy I used is not a horrible doctor, he just didn't specialized in the required techniques needed to create a great outcome around the eyes and face. The very slightest cut, stitch, scar, or movement of muscle can make a very huge difference in your facial appearance. If a nerve is cut wrong on the face it could affect your whole look. Please do diligence and seek someone who specializes in the eyes, and they will likely give you the best result, of course that's no guarantee. It's all a game of Risk. Price has to do with where you are located, and the experience of the doctor. Of course the very best ones will charge the highest and those who just want to make money will often give you a discount or a "package deal". Be wary! I wish you all the best in your decision.
December 11, 2014
Thanks for the comments, I will have my first consultation on Saturday.
December 11, 2014
If not too personal, Where are you located? please get at least 3 opinions if possible. Can you post pics or send any thru private message?
December 11, 2014
Thanks, but I will sort out other options. Starting from Saturday. I will check more than one surgeon.
December 10, 2014
Who was your doctor?
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December 11, 2014
You need to send me a private message via this site and I will share the information with you.
October 28, 2016
I pm you
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I hate my smile so much, I smile much less often...

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I hate my smile so much, I smile much less often and I try not to smile big like I used to. Life isn't as fun when one doesn't smile, and what's the point in paying thousands of dollars to look happier and younger only to look dour from lack of smiling?

After reading more, I think what it is called is a Joker's smile. It looks like where the surgeon decided to place the sutures where he went in through the inside corners of my mouth up into the cheek areas provided too little room for my normal, wider smile. When I smile my upper lip pulls so tightly against the gum, and it also looks like there is no place for the corners to go, that instead of turning up in the corners, my upper lip is completely straight across. Hence the Joker's smile.

Like I wrote previously, I think my smile was very pretty before and I would never have agreed to anything that would change it. My surgeon did mention that the mid-face lift would raise the corners of my lips back up some, but he said nothing about any other possible changes. In fact, when I did raise any specific concerns about anything else, he just shook his head and said I had nothing to worry about. The material he gave me to read before hand did talk about all the possible potential problems regarding nerve damage and so on, but when I asked about any of them, he said he never had problems with any of those things so not to worry about it.

It's been s full year since the surgery and compared to some of the horror stories other people share, I guess I was lucky not to have my face misshapen, so the skill for achieving cheek balance was good at least.

However, I wasn't unhappy with my cheeks when I went for the consult and I liked my smile a lot. The only things I asked about were my chin/neck and my upper eye-lids, but the surgeon said he thought my results would be much better with the added mid-face and partial brow lift, so I agreed. That's left me with cheeks I don't care about one way or another and that are actually fuller than when I was younger, and a smile I hate and am embarrassed by. In fact, although I told only a 3 or 4 people about my surgery, in the last year not one single person has mentioned that I look different or that I look good or that I look "rested." I have no doubt it is because they can tell something happened and they don't want to bring it up!

I'm sorry I did it, it wasn't worth many thousands of dollars taken out of savings to pay for it, and I wouldn't recommend this procedure unless there is some major need for it, and even then, be Very careful and ask about this possible outcome. And don't go to any surgeon that makes you feel rushed, not listened to, or whose staff is less attentive than he believes or claims they are.

(Sorry about posting this as a reply comment too. I goofed!)

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November 15, 2011
I hate my smile so much, I smile much less often and I try not to smile big like I used to. Life isn't as fun when one doesn't smile, and what's the point in paying thousands of dollars to look happier and younger only to look dour from lack of smiling?

After reading more, I think what it is called is a Joker's smile. It looks like where the surgeon decided to place the sutures where he went in through the inside corners of my mouth up into the cheek areas provided too little room for my normal, wider smile. When I smile my upper lip pulls so tightly against the gum, and it also looks like there is no place for the corners to go, that instead of turning up in the corners, my upper lip is completely straight across. Hence the Joker's smile.

Like I wrote previously, I think my smile was very pretty before and I would never have agreed to anything that would change it. My surgeon did mention that the mid-face lift would raise the corners of my lips back up some, but he said nothing about any other possible changes. In fact, when I did raise any specific concerns about anything else, he just shook his head and said I had nothing to worry about. The material he gave me to read before hand did talk about all the possible potential problems regarding nerve damage and so on, but when I asked about any of them, he said he never had problems with any of those things so not to worry about it.

A few weeks before the surgery, I talked to his patient coordinator and told her that I thought I was rushing into it and decided I should think about it some more. She assertively insisted cold feet nerves were normal, but everything would be wonderful and I would be so happy that I really needed to trust the doctor and go through with it. I was foolish not to follow my own instincts, because I think now, after feeling sort of pushed into the surgery when I initially had asked for only a consult (as soon as the doctor was finished doing the consult I was taken to the patient coordinator to look at photos and schedule my surgery as though it was given), and then she was so insistent about not letting me back out, I now think she was working on commission. No one in a physician's office who deals with encouraging medical procedures should be working on commission for this very reason.

It's been s full year since my surgery and compared to some of the horror stories other people share, I guess I was lucky not to have my face misshapen, so the skill for achieving cheek balance was good at least.

I haven't even bothered to contact him over it though because when I went back for the revision of something else, he made it clear he had no interest in what I had to say about my self-consciousness over my smile, and he also had no interest in tweaking my eye-lids even though he'd previously said when I went back he would tweak them if needed because doing multiple procedure at once caused so much swelling it is difficult to assess how much eye-lid skin really needs to be removed.

What he was interested in was a $5000.00 laser re-surfing to "finish off" the other work, but my skin is in much better shape than most women my age and two others told me no way was I a candidate for such deep burning of my face. I don't like the shiny look skin is left with either. Because of my ruined smile and what he needed to correct from the first surgery, I decided not to follow his recommendation regarding the face resurfacing, but instead waited to see how the revision went first. I guess since I wasn't there to purchase another expensive procedure, he had no interest in keeping his word about my eye-lids and he didn't care to live up to his written material about caring so much about the satisfaction his patients feel about their outcomes.

However, I wasn't unhappy with my cheeks when I went for the consult and I liked my smile a lot. The only things I asked about were my chin/neck and my upper eye-lids, but the surgeon said he thought my results would be much better with the added mid-face and partial brow lift, so I agreed. That's left me with cheeks I don't care about one way or another and that are actually fuller than when I was younger, and a smile I hate and am embarrassed by. In fact, although I told only a 3 or 4 people about my surgery, in the last year not one single person has mentioned that I look different or that I look good or that I look "rested." I have no doubt it is because they can tell something happened and they don't want to bring it up!

I'm sorry I did it, it wasn't worth many thousands of dollars taken out of savings to pay for it, and I wouldn't recommend this procedure unless there is some major need for it, and even then, be Very careful and ask about this possible outcome. And don't go to any surgeon that makes you feel rushed, not listened to, or whose staff is less attentive than he believes or claims they are.
July 28, 2012
i am 1.5 years out from cheek lift and lower eye lid bleph. every word of your story is the exact same as mine. only, i also suffer from crepey skin under the eye and unnatural, misshapen eyes. i told my doc i liked my cheeks and my smile and the ONLY reason i saw him was for reducing puffiness under my eyes. he changed my whole look for the worse and noone has once complimented my looks because i look odd! i used to be told i was beautiful, cute, sexy at least once a week- not bragging, but an honest fact. everything i read now, like your story, makes me cringe and cry and makes me sick that i didnt do more research prior to the surgery. how are you now??
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January 8, 2013
Hi djr, I don't know if I answered this comment from you yet or not. I'm sorry if I didn't. Nothing has changed for me, except my daughter in getting married in a few months and I am dreading seeing people and the photos because I am so self-conscious and embarrassed by my unnatural smile and that I don't look like me anymore. I look like someone who looks almost like me, but the change in the shape of my face from being a little too overzealous on fat removal and replacement and my tight, the difference in my nose profile, and my strange smile all add up to me not "looking like yourself, just refreshed, rested, and more youthful." I'll be meeting my daughter's new in-laws and some of her friends for the first time and as soon as I smile they will know I had surgery. When I see relatives, they will know soon as they look at me. I'm dreading it when I should be feeling joyful, and I am increasingly angry about it. I could just live with the rest (the big scar under my chin and that I don't look exactly like me anymore) but I can't adjust to having this weird, Meg Ryan look to my mouth. I specifically told the surgeon to be conservative because there was no way I wanted to end up with a freakish look like Meg Ryan suffered. He looked taken aback and didn't respond or ask me what I meant or anything. And what happened? I got exactly what I told him I was concerned he avoid. Like I said before, I never asked for my lip to be changed, and I never agreed to it, so I'm angry.
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January 8, 2013
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November 11, 2014
Lol, I have the jokers smile after cheek implants / removal too! But I love it. I never liked my smile before. So now that it's different I like it better. Anyways I know what you're talking about.
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After all that, the summary is my cheeks are too...

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After all that, the summary is my cheeks are too big and my upper lip too tight, so my face looks really round and my mouth too small with a strange smile.

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August 13, 2012
Hi djr. I'm sorry for what you are going through. For me it's been almost two years since the original surgery. The huge scar under my chin down to the top of my throat isn't as obvious as it was, but it is still visible, and the scar thickened so it is a little ropey right at my throat.

My smile is still strange looking and I hate it. The weird looking pulling and stretching is still obvious, The pulling still creates a pronounced ridge under my nose when I smile.

It looks like he did something of a lip lift when he did the procedures because my upper lip looks bigger than it did. I never requested a larger upper lip. I never agreed to one. And he never told me he was going to do that. Still, not one friend or relative has even mentioned the surgery or said anything to me about my changed appearance. Not my friends who I told about the surgery, and not anyone I didn't tell. I've avoided traveling back to where most of our friends and relatives live to see them because I am embarrassed and do not want to face them, and I still do not smile nearly as much as I did before surgery.
August 14, 2012
thank you so much for your response. i too have the ridge above my lip and a pulled sensation and a larger lip, and larger, uneven cheeks when i smile. but, none of that compare to the horror look of my eyes- literally like the eyes of a zombie due to the flattened tire look under the eye, and crepey skin. now that the swellin has hugely subsided, the scars are more prevelant and the awful stiching he did to the inner eye (which should not have gone that far) creates the pulled, rounded look of my once beautiful asian eyes... well, i requested a refund through a four page letter and he sent back 2 paragraphs saying my statements were untrue and that there was nothing more he could do for me. however, he doesnt realize that there is MUCH more he could do, and i am scheduling an appt with him to let him know that. he doesnt realize that, though i accept how my body healed and that surgery is not a perfect science, and i accpet that sometimes things dont go as planned, but he went above those limits by creating a horrible result and not offering to fix it, or to refund me.

do you mind sharing photos? i can send you my email and pics first, if you like...
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September 21, 2012
Hi djr, I don't have photos to share yet. It's a little hard to get the lip problem to show because the lighting has to be right for a camera to capture it well, but it is certainly doable. I've just not had time.
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September 21, 2012
Hi djr, I don't have photos to share yet. It's a little hard to get the lip problem to show because the lighting has to be right for a camera to capture it well, but it is certainly doable. I've just not had time.
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September 21, 2012
Hi djr, I don't have photos to share yet. It's a little hard to get the lip problem to show because the lighting has to be right for a camera to capture it well, but it is certainly doable. I've just not had time.
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September 18, 2012
I hope your smile is getting more and more natural.
Take good care of yourself, Jez.
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September 26, 2012
it is still unnatural, two years later, but thank you for the kind comment.
September 18, 2012
wow, what timing! i sooo appreciate your message. i just went for a follow up yesterday (even tho i had requested a refund about 3 months ago, and was turned down). I figured, if he's not going to refund me or make any corrections, i will at least take up his time letting him see his results, which, of course he thinks is "great".
My face has calmed down a bit and i can accept my lopsided (not just asymmetrical like before, but lopsided) and my stretched smile (like yours, a pulling makes the ridge). Its really my eyes and the lower lid surgery that still haunts me everyday. i actually "feel" the surgery, so that makes it harder to forget about it during the day.
Well, thank you again. And i will ask again if you care to share personal email or photos. If not, i totally understand. i have made a few connections here and its comforting to chat with someone who understands. Please take care too....
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September 26, 2012
I can't say that I can accept my unnatural-looking smile, but I have no choice but to live with it. Your experience with your eyes is something I've not suffered. I'm sorry you are. Stories like yours make me very glad I did not agree to under eye surgery. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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September 21, 2012
I am so sorry for you .Thanks for posting your story. It was really like a source of information for me thanks for sharing!!!
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September 21, 2012
Thank you. These surgeries can be so life altering, it isn't right that surgeons downplay potential negative outcomes despite what they have in their written material to cover their "assets." Many do though, so patients need to start informing others so people can make truly informed decisions.
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March 15, 2020
You’re welcome.