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My Journey to a Perfect Button Nose - San Francisco, CA
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After years of debating and researching and...
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After years of debating and researching and lurking, I finally decided to go through with a rhinoplasty. I made a list of every surgery I have ever wanted and realized that this--by far--tops the list.
Admittedly, I have never had a terrible nose and never heard anything but positive comments on it. Most people would never guess that I have ever wanted a nose job because I don't talk about it. But ever since middle school (when, incidentally, I learned about Photoshop), I've hated my fat nostrils and noticed how much better I look with a smaller nose in every picture. Like our typical teen insecurities, it became an obsession--the most major thing holding my face back from being acceptable.
To be honest, I probably would forget about it were my nostrils not so disgusting. But they're just too wide and fat and destroy my otherwise "cute" aesthetic (petite frame, young face, etc.). I want to get them as small and thin as possible--probably an alar base reduction. And while I'm at it, I want to get my tip reduced and refined, and probably sloped so that I can finally have that perfect, tiny ski-slope nose of my dreams!
My consultation is scheduled for when I get back to the Bay. Wish me luck!
Admittedly, I have never had a terrible nose and never heard anything but positive comments on it. Most people would never guess that I have ever wanted a nose job because I don't talk about it. But ever since middle school (when, incidentally, I learned about Photoshop), I've hated my fat nostrils and noticed how much better I look with a smaller nose in every picture. Like our typical teen insecurities, it became an obsession--the most major thing holding my face back from being acceptable.
To be honest, I probably would forget about it were my nostrils not so disgusting. But they're just too wide and fat and destroy my otherwise "cute" aesthetic (petite frame, young face, etc.). I want to get them as small and thin as possible--probably an alar base reduction. And while I'm at it, I want to get my tip reduced and refined, and probably sloped so that I can finally have that perfect, tiny ski-slope nose of my dreams!
My consultation is scheduled for when I get back to the Bay. Wish me luck!
UPDATED FROM livebackwards
Medical Tourism
Well, as time has not been passing quickly enough toward my scheduled consultations in August, I've been seeking out surgeons and experts everywhere I go and gathering as much information as I can in the meantime. Most recently, I spoke with a doctor couple and they made a really strong case for this almost terrifying concept: medical tourism.
My main reason for not even considering countries outside the U.S. was that there is such little information available to me--online and locally--about the doctors' reputation, patients, office, etc. The sources I trust most regarding any surgeon are their previous patients and colleagues who know them personally, as they tend to be the most honest. This is hard to find when stepping outside the border and losing the bulk of my social network. However, you do have to acknowledge the massive pros:
- Drastic savings in cost (60-80% at least), even with flight tickets and accommodation
- Specialized quarters and treatment for medical tourists
- Expedited process pre- and post-op
- Excuse to travel :)
Really though, getting the best surgeon with the most up-to-date technology for a diminutive fraction of the price in a foreign country versus attempting to schedule a top surgeon himself over months and thousands of dollars in the U.S. begs for a serious re-evaluation of my dedication to American medicine. Plus, this MD couple mentioned a few contacts they could provide were I to decide to pursue the medical tourist route, which certainly helps.
I don't know. I was pretty set on a California surgeon, but these recent discussions have made me question my choice. I am most likely going to be in Europe and Asia at the end of this month, so I will see if I can get in touch with anyone overseas and research this option further while I'm at it.
My main reason for not even considering countries outside the U.S. was that there is such little information available to me--online and locally--about the doctors' reputation, patients, office, etc. The sources I trust most regarding any surgeon are their previous patients and colleagues who know them personally, as they tend to be the most honest. This is hard to find when stepping outside the border and losing the bulk of my social network. However, you do have to acknowledge the massive pros:
- Drastic savings in cost (60-80% at least), even with flight tickets and accommodation
- Specialized quarters and treatment for medical tourists
- Expedited process pre- and post-op
- Excuse to travel :)
Really though, getting the best surgeon with the most up-to-date technology for a diminutive fraction of the price in a foreign country versus attempting to schedule a top surgeon himself over months and thousands of dollars in the U.S. begs for a serious re-evaluation of my dedication to American medicine. Plus, this MD couple mentioned a few contacts they could provide were I to decide to pursue the medical tourist route, which certainly helps.
I don't know. I was pretty set on a California surgeon, but these recent discussions have made me question my choice. I am most likely going to be in Europe and Asia at the end of this month, so I will see if I can get in touch with anyone overseas and research this option further while I'm at it.
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July 3, 2014
I've been thinking the same thing in regards to medical tourism. You should look into Dr. Baris Cakir in Istanbul. He is esteemed among his peers, speaks at rhino conventions, participates in frequent research, and performs closed rhinoplasty with a unique contouring approach that delivers a refined tip. I am currently scouring resources and attempting to do as much research as I can about him.

July 3, 2014
That is actually so funny you mention that. A few of the the references I was given are from Istanbul (pretty popular destination from what I understand) and I'm planning on paying a visit when I fly over there in a few weeks. I will make sure to check out Dr. Cakir and let you know!
July 6, 2014
Yes, I would love to hear about your consults and compare notes! Nazim Cerkes in Turkey was also recommended to me-- he is well regarded and has impressive results, but I'm not as fond of his aesthetic as Cakir, and he seems to prefer an open approach which I'd like to avoid for a primary. But definitely worth looking into if you haven't already. As for Cakir, he's a sculptor as well (many docs can't even draw), so he seems to have a solid handle on beauty ratios/ anatomical harmony. He has a detailed YouTube video of his polygon technique which shows him performing surgery--I would link it here but I don't think real self allows outside links. Anyway, good luck!
July 4, 2014
Please remember...the cheap way is the expensive way, especially when it comes to surgery. I am just six months out on my tip revision and i personally feel you would be crazy to travel to such an extent and be that far away from your surgeon. I have been back to my surgeons office multiple times and have had two columella scar revisions. It is just now settling down and the tip is more evident now and will be even more so as time passes. I had moments of regret because I had a nice nose but decided I just wanted a little more point and definition to it. I had an infection inside my nose, the columella scar was not healing and was perpetually sore and wouldn't heal. I paid a top doctor in my area and he stayed with me until I was healing and recovering more completely. He never charged for either revision and the office visits, even though both my husband and myself offered on several occasions. I'm just getting used to my new look, and even though it was a minor revision, it was a major happening to go through. I finally like what I see and am no longer in any discomfort. The scar is healing better and settling down although still pinker than the rest of my face, albeit, easier to conceal now with cosmetics.
Please consider paying the best doc in your area that you can afford and you'll be glad you did. My situation was complicated by the fact that I didn't have the cartilage to support the new configuration, but this wasn't known until he opened up my nose. He did a great job getting me where i should be, and thank goodness he wasn't thousands of miles away. Wishing you the best...

July 4, 2014
I'm glad to hear that you're making progress! It sounds like you picked a good doctor.
You're absolutely right about the distance bit; it's certainly discomforting thinking about what would happen were there to be a complication post-op as in your case. However, I will obviously be discussing all of that with every surgeon with whom I speak and, luckily, I have an extensive range of medical contacts who can help me here and elsewhere.
I'm simply exploring this option for now, not jumping into anything. Hopefully my process helps someone having the same thoughts. Thank you though, and I wish you a quick recovery :)

July 31, 2014
You don't need anything done. You are beautiful now. Theres nothing disgusting about your nose. Be Thankful
UPDATED FROM livebackwards
Consultations in Istanbul
After some research and upon your requests, I am finally sitting down to detail my limited impressions of the rhinoplasty scene in Istanbul. I had a few doctors I definitely wanted to see, and a few recommended to me during my visit, but all in all I am only going to share the ones who stood out, be it in a good or bad way.
- Dr. Baris Cakir: I called his office to make an appointment before flying over (you know how far in advance surgeons book up), but was repeatedly unable to reach their line. So I contacted my doctor friends in Turkey to gauge just how hard I should try to get a consultation with Dr. Cakir. 3/3 confirmed that he was an ambitious, successful surgeon and recommended keeping him under consideration. Unfortunately, once I did get through to his office line in Turkey, they were already booking appointments into this month. Hence, I was not able to speak with him personally.
- Dr. Fevzi Yavas: I spoke to this doctor after strong personal recommendations from a few friends. He had a clean office in a central location and was polite in answering all of my questions (even about other surgeons!). He is very experienced and has operated on even his close relatives, including his own daughter. However, he did not want to modify any part of my tip or bridge and said that I should only get the alar base reduction, if that. I asked to see examples of similar patients, but from what I was shown (and having settled on what I want), I gained the feeling that Dr. Yavas would not be the best choice for my specific case.
- Dr. Nazim Cerkes: I actually had a consultation booked for this doctor when I arrived in Istanbul, but multiple surgeons with whom I spoke were hesitant to recommend him. Apparently, he is not very esteemed among his peers at all. Thus, I crossed him off the list and canceled the appointment.
All other doctors that I had on my list were either not strong enough candidates or unwilling to perform surgery on my nose. If you would like an opinion on anyone specifically, feel free to PM me.
- Dr. Baris Cakir: I called his office to make an appointment before flying over (you know how far in advance surgeons book up), but was repeatedly unable to reach their line. So I contacted my doctor friends in Turkey to gauge just how hard I should try to get a consultation with Dr. Cakir. 3/3 confirmed that he was an ambitious, successful surgeon and recommended keeping him under consideration. Unfortunately, once I did get through to his office line in Turkey, they were already booking appointments into this month. Hence, I was not able to speak with him personally.
- Dr. Fevzi Yavas: I spoke to this doctor after strong personal recommendations from a few friends. He had a clean office in a central location and was polite in answering all of my questions (even about other surgeons!). He is very experienced and has operated on even his close relatives, including his own daughter. However, he did not want to modify any part of my tip or bridge and said that I should only get the alar base reduction, if that. I asked to see examples of similar patients, but from what I was shown (and having settled on what I want), I gained the feeling that Dr. Yavas would not be the best choice for my specific case.
- Dr. Nazim Cerkes: I actually had a consultation booked for this doctor when I arrived in Istanbul, but multiple surgeons with whom I spoke were hesitant to recommend him. Apparently, he is not very esteemed among his peers at all. Thus, I crossed him off the list and canceled the appointment.
All other doctors that I had on my list were either not strong enough candidates or unwilling to perform surgery on my nose. If you would like an opinion on anyone specifically, feel free to PM me.
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September 8, 2014
So this might sound infeasible, but have you considered Tehran? They have the highest rate of rhino in the world and despite media portrayals and with enough preparation/discretion, might be a workable locale. Someone on realself recently posted stellar results from Dr. Alireza Mohebbe.
April 18, 2015
Yes, I live in Sweden and I have iranian friends who went to Iran and come back to Sweden with michael jackson noses.
February 21, 2015
According to Dr.CERKES "multiple surgeons with whom I spoke were hesitant to recommend him". Thank you so much for telling us this.
Who would you recommend if I want to get a rhinoplasty surgery in Turkey?
In the meantime, thank you so much for your attention and participation.
May 30, 2015
I had sent pictures of the procedures I wanted done including rhino plasty, which involved break the top bridge of my nose and tip refinement to remove the bulbous element, upper plasty, upper fat transfer, under eye fat transfer, cheek fat transfer, buccal fat removal, chin implant and under chin liposuction by Dr Cerkes. I recovered in 3 months 8 moths post of. From the UK was treated as VIP given private room meds and other items for recovery. Results are natural and unbelievably fab. I did a lot of research he is the most expensive and difficult surgeon to get hold of esp in August.
June 19, 2015
What do you mean you were unable to speak to dr cakir personally? Also, do you know how much rhino is with the doctors u considered? Thanks xx

January 24, 2016
I had a secondary rhinoplasty with Dr nazim cerkes and he completely changed my life. The first doctor I went to was in Calgary, Canada and she deviated my septum, collapsed the skeleton of my nose, and pretty much deformed it. Nazim fixed my breathing and significantly improved the appearance of my nose. I just went back in to shave down the graft a bit more free of charge. I have thick skin and was an extremely difficult case so my hat goes off to him. If anyone has tried to say he isn't an esteemed surgeon i would have to believe it's because he is a threat to their business. He travels to the U.S. and russia to give rhinoplasty lectures all the time. I trust him 100%
February 8, 2017
i am looking for someone clever with revision cases and ethnic noses...already done it three times. So many dumb doctors exist
July 7, 2017
I have been in touch with Dr Cerkes for rhino next month. I agree that he looks very impressive however some negative comments I have just read have really concerned. Are you able to send me any before and after pics?
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