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Hey everyone! I am just starting this whole thing...
Rayah7December 24, 2012
WORTH IT$6,550
Hey everyone! I am just starting this whole thing to get some feedback from others out there that have already had a nose job or are thinking about getting one. I'm trying to decide if I really should do it? Like a lot of people on here, I have hated my nose for a long time. And I am finally considering getting it done. I'm a 28 year old mother and wife. My husband does not want me to do it....he doesn't understand why I want it done. I'm having a hard time with that because I really need his support if I do this.
Another thing Is that I am SO intimidated in finding the right surgeon! I have only been researching for about two weeks now. Can someone tell me the most important things to look for in the right surgeon? I'm seriously terrified of getting a "bad nose job" if I do it!
those that have had great outcomes can you tell me what you looked for in a surgeon? Thank you for any advice you can give! :)
Replies (9)
December 27, 2012
Hi Rayah, You're already beautiful, so as long as you choose the right surgeon, everything should be fine and you shouldn't worry. If you get a chance, please read the review I gave my surgeon. I can't recommend him enough - he's that talented! And accessible from SFO.
December 27, 2012
Thank you! I actually have read your review and that is why I am so interested in your Doctor! Out of all of the before and after pics I've seen his are my by far my Favorite. What do you mean he is accessible from SFO?
December 27, 2012
Oh, I guess I just meant he's not so, so, so far away, and that going to him would be possible, with either a long drive or a short flight. But I'm sure there are superstar docs in your area, too!
December 27, 2012
I know I'm glad he is not really far! :) I just don't know if I can afford to either fly or drive. I'm not the typical rich person getting plastic surgery ( not that you are or anything ;) ) I just mean I'm not usually the type to do this sort of thing. But I have decided that there is no reason I shouldn't do it just because I am not wealthy. I have good credit and think it would be worth it to get a loan to do this...If I can. I've been so self conscious of my nose since I was about 12. It's time I do something about it! ;)
December 27, 2012
I understand, and cost/stress-wise, picking someone close to you helps a lot. To be honest, I couldn't afford this surgery at all, and will have to be on the tightest budget ever now. In fact I usually watch every nickel and dime, but with my nose, well, my nostril size was so embarrassing that I felt I had to just do it, and had to go with the best I could afford, even if it meant sacrifices. I'm really happy for you to have the support of your husband and mother. They'll definitely help you in making the best decision for you.
December 27, 2012
P.S. I think Grigoryants prices are based on what he does for each individual person. I had to pay more because I had to get a lot done.
December 27, 2012
I have no idea how much he would have to do with mine! But I know one doctor (Dr. Most) in San Francisco quoted me 9400 and I thought that was a bit pricey. But he is supposedly really good. I don't want money to get in the way though because this is my face! I don't want to take any chances. I want the best I can find close enough to me.
UPDATED FROM Rayah7
7 months pre
So I am so excited and nervous at the same time! I...
Rayah7December 27, 2012
So I am so excited and nervous at the same time! I talked to my husband ( it was an intense conversation) for a long time yesterday and he has decided to support me in this. We need to pay off our debt first though but he is going to "let" me do this if it's really what I want. And it is. Our debt is not that bad and I am hoping we can pay the rest off this next year with our tax return. And when I say "let" it's more like he is saying he is on board with me in doing this. I'm so happy because I REALLY need his support if I do this.
I have also talked to my mom which I was pretty nervous about. But she said she loves me however I am and will support whatever I choose to do. My little brother is also supportive. I have not talked to my dad yet. I am really nervous to tell him. He is a pastor, very conservative Christian and I'm afraid he will only see this as being really vain! I was kind of afraid my mom would feel the same way but she wasn't at all. She was actually way more supportive than even my husband. My problem right now is finding the right surgeon close to me. Everyone I find is a bit far. But I know if it's the right surgeon it will be worth the travel.
Anyway sorry for my really poor writing skills. My husband is the writer, not me. ;)
I have also talked to my mom which I was pretty nervous about. But she said she loves me however I am and will support whatever I choose to do. My little brother is also supportive. I have not talked to my dad yet. I am really nervous to tell him. He is a pastor, very conservative Christian and I'm afraid he will only see this as being really vain! I was kind of afraid my mom would feel the same way but she wasn't at all. She was actually way more supportive than even my husband. My problem right now is finding the right surgeon close to me. Everyone I find is a bit far. But I know if it's the right surgeon it will be worth the travel.
Anyway sorry for my really poor writing skills. My husband is the writer, not me. ;)
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December 27, 2012
Welcome to Realself and all the best finding a surgeon. You are beautiful as you are but I can see by the adjustment you have done to your nose in the photo, what bothers you about your nose. Take your time choosing and try not to stress; this site is a fantastic tool to assist, support and guide you. I am so pleased your have family on board; I haven't told my parents yet & my op is in less than 3 weeks...just call me chicken! Also, I am a Christian so have struggled with the vanity thing too. Take care & I look forward to watching your journey :)
December 27, 2012
That's awesome you are a Christian too! I think that making it clear to your family that it's not just about vanity and beauty but about you being comfortable and confident around others so that you are not constantly thinking about your nose. And if it's something that has bothered you for a very long time and you have not been able to just "let it go" let them know how this seams to be the best answer for you. God has given surgeons the skills to perform such surgeries...why not allow them to work there art form on you? I am still nervous to tell my dad though. I am afraid most that he will be disappointed in me. But maybe it will help that I think I got my self consciousness from his side of the family! lol my mom is so comfortable in her own skin I definitely didn't get that from her. ;)

December 27, 2012
I think you're very pretty :) you have big beautiful eyes. I know how you feel and if its something thats bothering you, then do it for yourself. I noticed you live in SF, have you looked into David Kim up there? I looked into him because he seems good and his work is subtle but I decided against picking a doctor so far away from me.
December 27, 2012
Yes I have looked into him. I like his work too but I am afraid it might be too subtle. I still might try and have a consult with him anyway because he has such a great reputation! :)

December 28, 2012
HEY, welcome to the site and thanks for sharing your story with us. I think that if it's something that really really bothers you so bad than you should go for it. I don't think it's vain at all. I think vain is more like being content with a nice nose, but wanting a BETTER one. I understand about your husband. My boyfriend is the same way, and after talking with him about how I felt he understood that it's not vanity, but it's something that I've hated my whole life and that I've been picked on alot about. I think it's very smart of you guys to pay your debt off before the surgery! I know it sounds very natural for everyone to do so, but believe or not there are people who would rather be in debts up to their necks but get things when they want them.
Definitely do a lot of research on rhinoplasty so that you know exactly what you will be going through and that way you know what your concerns are. Also do a lot of research on your doctor search. Make sure he is very experienced and look at his previous patients photos if they are available and see if you like his works. I cannot give you advice for after the surgery since I have not been through that stage yet, but will be very soon!
Good luck on your search!
December 28, 2012
Thank you for the advice! I think that's a great point about the "vain" thing. It's so intimidating looking for a surgeon! I'm seriously scared I will make the wrong choice. I'm researching as much as I can but I'm not sure what else to look for....
December 28, 2012
I agree with what others have said: you're beautiful either way! However, DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY!! Bottom line. It's your face, your beauty, YOUR decision! My advice- research, research, research! Go to a lot of consultations and try to get a feel for what the surgeon himself finds attractive in a nose. Look at the people who work in his office, ask them if they've had him work on them or if they've had anyone work on them.
If someone close to you doesn't support your decision, then they don't, oh well. You & your new beautiful nose will go elsewhere :) Just kidding. Personally I didn't tell anyone I had my procedure done, not even my boyfriend of 2 yrs. Got it done while he was out of town, and when he came back he didn't even notice.
You will definitely need someone who fully supports your decision to be there to take care of you, though. The first few days or even weeks after this procedure you might not look like yourself completely or you might be swollen or bruised or think you've made a horrible decision. When you're in this state of feeling uneasy, the last thing you'll want is someone sitting there saying "see, I told you, you didn't need it".
December 29, 2012
Thank you! I can't do it secretly. I have a 14 month old, husband and family that are almost daily part of my life! I would love to be able to do it and not let anyone know! haha I can't believe nobody noticed you had it done! That's awesome but I think my nose would be more drastic to not be noticed. :) Thank you for your advice and I will keep everyone posted with whats going on.
December 29, 2012
Believe me when I say you have stunning features already - the eyes, cheekbones, etc. You have the perfect foundation to be drop dead gorgeous after a rhino because everything else is so perfect! That being said, you probably know but feel like your nose gets all the attention, which can be so frustrating and take a nab at your self-confidence. I know because I endure the same feelings all the time. Your profile simulation looks amazing, and I hope that's what you end up with. I'm happy your family is supportive of it, but even if they weren't you would need to do it make yourself happy if getting a rhinoplasty is what it will take. Please don't rush into it, though. I recommend staying on realself for at least 6 months just reading people's reviews and researching before narrowing down on a surgeon. Don't let location influence your decision; although, I feel any reputable surgeon who does a lot of rhinos can easily do your case. You have thin skin on a Caucasian nose and only want a bump removed. Easy peasy! :) But don't let that stop you from doing ample research.
December 29, 2012
Thank you. I just read your review and let me tell you...you are drop dead gorgeous already! But I totally understand how you feel about your nose. I read what you said about your mom and I have a similar mom. She is SO comfortable with herself and keeps looking at me when she sees me, shakes her head and says "I just don't get it. You are SO pretty already!" lol But it's hard to believe coming from my mother. I have a daughter and can never see myself telling her she is ugly! So of course my parents are going to say they think I'm beautiful! lol It's hard not to want to rush when I just want it over with but I would hate to make a huge mistake in doing that. I saw that you are choosing Dr. Grigoryants? Can I ask what it was that made you choose him after so much research? I Really like his work. I'm trying to figure out what else I need to know (research) about rhinoplasty. Everyone keeps saying research research research but I can't help but wonder what else needs to be researched. Like all I know of so far is to look for Board certification, specialists in rhinoplasty, Good reviews, I look for someone who does lots of similar noses as my own and lots of nose surgery's....what else am I missing?
December 30, 2012
Like you've done, I scoped out surgeons who have done noses similar to mine. Before coming upon him, I was looking at Dr. Shah and Dr. Cochran, but they didn't have a lot of photographs on their sites. I stumbled upon Dr. G. Not only did he have a lot of pictures, but most were of noses like mine (typical Armenian/Greek/Persian). I booked a consultation and then seeing his office PACKED with people was also a good sign. His office clerk also had her's done by him, and it looks good. Everything just feels right about him. He answered all my concerns and questions with ease and knew exactly what to change in mine to make it look better (everything I agreed on). I just feel at ease with him. I feel my nose won't turn into a failed attempt to look like Angelina Jolie's nose with him. From his website, you can tell he has made pretty drastic changes in people's noses successfully. You might want to consider him because, although he isn't a rhino specialist, he does a lot of them.
All I'd say to do as a part of research now is scope out people who have had their surgeries done with your favorite surgeons and ask them how they went. I've personally connected with three girls (now 4 today on realself with "gift2myself") who have told me their stories.
UPDATED FROM Rayah7
7 months pre
So...I'm feeling pretty depressed lately. I talked...
Rayah7December 31, 2012
So...I'm feeling pretty depressed lately. I talked to my mom again and she, I think would be supportive if I do it but does not want me to at all. She just does not get it! I haven't talked to my dad about it. I think I will when I actually have a date scheduled for surgery so that he will see that it is a decision I have already made. I just know he will be so disappointed in me....And that is depressing. My dad has always been proud of me. He tells me all the time lol! But this is going to be something he will not be proud of. I just know it! At least my husband is going to support me in it. He's doing in kind of a resentful way though...which totally sucks! My daughter is supportive though! ok ok she is only 14 months but she is the only one that seams to get it hehe.
I told a close friend of mine who lives out of state so she won't be telling others. But she said I should just do whatever makes me happy and if it's something I have always wanted to go for it! That was encouraging to hear. :) I'm also excited because all of the doctors I seam to like are in southern Ca and I am in Nor cal which was making it hard for me as I don't really have the extra money to pay for a place to stay in southern Ca. But I totally forgot my Aunt lives close to all the doctors I like and she has like 17 extra bedrooms which is plenty of room for me lol! And she is someone I would feel totally comfortable staying with and would be completely supportive of me! So I'm super happy that I have found a place to stay if I do go for a doctor in southern Ca!
Anyway...that's my" update " for now. Hopefully It wont be too long until I actually get the surgery! I am SOOOO impatient and just want to do it! :)
I told a close friend of mine who lives out of state so she won't be telling others. But she said I should just do whatever makes me happy and if it's something I have always wanted to go for it! That was encouraging to hear. :) I'm also excited because all of the doctors I seam to like are in southern Ca and I am in Nor cal which was making it hard for me as I don't really have the extra money to pay for a place to stay in southern Ca. But I totally forgot my Aunt lives close to all the doctors I like and she has like 17 extra bedrooms which is plenty of room for me lol! And she is someone I would feel totally comfortable staying with and would be completely supportive of me! So I'm super happy that I have found a place to stay if I do go for a doctor in southern Ca!
Anyway...that's my" update " for now. Hopefully It wont be too long until I actually get the surgery! I am SOOOO impatient and just want to do it! :)
Replies (19)
January 1, 2013
I admire you following your dreams! It's really hard when your family is not 100% behind you. You sort of have to gather courage and determination you didn't even know you had! I'll be following your story, for sure. Good luck, and don't be depressed -- you've accomplished a lot so far, so think of it that way!
January 2, 2013
Thank you! I'm starting to realize that I'm stronger than I thought when it comes to doing some things against other people's judgements. Every day I look in the mirror or see a pic of myself I just want the rhinoplasty that much more! And am trying not to let anything get in my way to getting it done. I'm frustrated now though because taxes went up..... That doesn't help at all! So angry about that. Lol
January 2, 2013
I am sorry your mother is not being so supportive. My mom had her nose done when she was 19, so she was really supportive with my going through with it. I am sure once you are on the other side of surgery she will most likely feel different about it... once she sees you are still you! At least you have a supportive friend, daughter and hubby. That will help carry you through!
January 2, 2013
Yes. I'm thinking the fewer people I tell the better. I only told that friend because she was just visiting and has known me for a long time and I knew she wouldn't go telling others. It's hard for me because my family is very conservative and most of them think of plastic surgery as such a vain thing. I know though that my parents would never push me away for doing this. They might be a bit disappointed and not understand but hey there are plenty of things they have done that I don't understand and am disappointed in! But I still love them. I think it's just hard not having more support. But that's why I love this forum. People here totally understand and are here to listen. I thank God I found this! :)
January 2, 2013
Yea I kept the number of people I told to a minimum as well. This forum has been great! I have been snooping on hear for over a year before having my procedure a few weeks ago. I possibly need revision, but for the most part am still happy I went through with it. So don't let my saying that scare you off, it's just a risk/ reality that we all take into consideration before having surgery. I had a difficult nose that had been broken in the past, and was messed up even before that. I hope you find a doc that you love! There are lots of good ones here in the Bay :D

March 30, 2013
Definitely don't tell too many people otherwise you have to deal with their own opinions when it is yours that really only matters! It is hard for me as I had to take my horse somewhere to be looked after for two weeks and I told those that asked that I was visiting my sister, not sure it's a likely story, who visits their sister for a whole two weeks! To be honest now I have it done I don't care so much about people knowing, what I didn't want was everyone's opinions thrown at me the day before surgery! It is a shame your mum doesn't support you, maybe some people find it an attack on themselves, I remember my uncle saying "your nose is part of your heritage, you can't get rid of it!", funny he doesn't ad noone else has the witch nose I had and he even used to tease me about it which was a bit shocking, it didn't bother me as I am above all that, beauty is from within but I still want a nice nose! [RS bleep]
January 3, 2013
Hi Rayah7, just read your last post. I totally understand, I cancelled my appointment last year as my mum made me feel so bad, but at least she made me really really think, and I still definitely want to do it! What I am trying to say is that you know how you feel better than anyone, although it is good to have your mum and dad on side, you are doing this for you. You will prob find that they come round when they see you are serious, just give your decision time to settle in, and don't try to talk to them if they are not ready to listen, as that will just make it worse. Stick to your guns! - I think you look lovely as you are, but as you said on my post I totally understand your reasons, I think your simulation looks very natural too, it's not like you are wanting to go crazy with it all, which is prob what your mum thinks, you are her baby after all :) take care and give them time x
January 4, 2013
I live about 60 miles north of York, but I went to York University! I used to live out in Fulford :) when were you in York? I just moved back from Leeds a few years ago too. Are you originally from the UK? ...small world isn't it really.
January 4, 2013
I was there a few years ago. I went to school there. I loved it. I left my heart there I think. ;) I am not originally from there. But Sometimes I feel I am and I wish I could go back at least to visit! :)
January 4, 2013
It is a special kind of place, lots of history. But it does rain a lot!! I would rather be in California!!! :D
January 4, 2013
haha yeah sometimes I love it here sometimes I want England! lol The grass is never greener! ;)

March 30, 2013
Wow, I love York, my mum's family are from Leeds so we visit lots! And I said you look like an English Rose in your wedding pic....I was right!! Lol! I am in Leicestershire, I love it here, been here all my life, perhaps that is a bit boring?! If I were to move it would be to some southern county in America as I am a horse addict and in my dream life I would be mustering cattle! Lol! Xx
March 30, 2013
Haha I miss England but I also love Northern California. It's got it all! Redwoods, ocean, country side and mountains. The weather is really nice. I don't like southern Ca.... Too hot. But I miss the history and countryside in England. I miss York and all the people there. It was a special time in my life visiting there. I'll have to go back. There wasn't one town there I didn't like! They are all special in one way or another. ;)
I'm so glad you started your story! Choosing a surgeon is probably the most important part of this process, so you're smart to think a lot about it.
Here's a list of questions to ask your prospective surgeons.
Please keep us posted. And don't be afraid to go on three or more consultations to get ideas of different approaches.