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52, Neck and Jowls Making Me Look Older - Richmond, VA

UPDATED FROM mjnutt
7 months post

Re: Extreme dissappointment, need revision of everything

M
mjnutt
$11,500
I am so distraught with my neck the main reason for surgery was to get rid of my turkey neck which was what bothered me the most. As I WILL NOT give Dr. De Wire any more of my $$$ especially as he is denying there is anything wrong with my neck, see my pictures.... people go in for surgery with a neck that looks like this not 7 months later have a neck after surgery that looks like mine. When I saw him last he said there was nothing wrong with my neck and the little bit of skin was because I was an ex smoker. [RS bleep]

I went to see another PS at Richmond Plastic Surgery for a consultation and he could not believe what my neck looks like after such a short time, he agreed it was not skin laxity due to the fact that I am an EX smoker (quit years ago) but a very poor attempt at a neck lift. Dr. De Wire is also known in the PS field as the Boob Doctor, he is not known for Facelifts, in fact the PS said he has done several revisions of work that D.r De Wire has done on faces and necks. He also said I was obviously not pulled tight enough, hence that is why I already have the beginning of jowls again, my cheeks are no longer full and my smile line see picture 3 of my original review is back again. All in All it will cost me close to $10,000 to have a complete revision, almost as much as my original cost with the rip off Dr, Dr. Dewire. As he is retiring and obviously he should have a long time ago, many people in the future will be saved from his inferior work on faces. I am distraught over this, pretty depressed most days, hate looking in the mirror in natural light and wish oh wish I had chosen a different Dr. I will have a revision within the next year. I have asked for my pre operative notes from him, as of yet the has not sent them. I am blowing up these pictures and taking them to his office on Monday and will beg anyone in the waiting room to think twice before allowing him to touch any part of them other than their boobs.

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Replies (5)

F
February 18, 2016
I'm sorry your results did not turn out as desired. Make sure the surgeon you choose is an expert at necks and make sure he has the experience to make the salivary gland less visible.
A
February 22, 2016
How do you make sure someone is an expert at necks? Nearly no PS on Real Self has patients who stick around to post revealing (rather than flattering) photos beyond the 3-4 month mark. And the PS websites post a small fraction of their post ops~ I'm assuming he chooses the best, not the worst. So....how do you determine who is an expert and what does that even mean?
M
February 23, 2016
I agree G60 No PS is going to tell you hey I do great facelifts but I suck at neck lifts.
As I learned the hard way, not every PS is truthful.
A
February 19, 2016
I'm so sorry you aren't happy with your results, I know that must be really tough, especially when your surgeon refuses to take responsibility :(.

But thank you so much for coming back and sharing it here. We rarely see people coming back after the first flush of happiness. Seeing how everything has settled is SO valuable (both when it turns out well and when it turns out not-so-well).

I do hope that your revision surgery sees you getting the results you want.
M
February 19, 2016
Thank you. I saw a few people who had terrible results from their PS post prior to my surgery and I hoped that it did not happen to me. obviously I did not hope enough :-(
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BM
February 20, 2016
So sorry to hear about your inferior results and disappointment with your FL surgery. Unfortunately there aren't too many people posting anything a long time after their FL surgeries so mostly we get to see results only within the first year or less after surgery.. Few post beyond a year post op which is unfortunate for those of us who really would like to know how long results last. Anyway, thank you for posting!!
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S
February 23, 2016
I still have bulging salivary glands, but my neck looks wonderful, but we discussed that beforehand, I'm so sorry that you went through all of that for nothing.
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P
March 26, 2016
I do hope that you are more satisfied with your next surgical procedure and it is more to your expectations ~ I think that you look extremely good right now and do not need any more surgeries done ~ just my opinion
UPDATED FROM mjnutt
6 months post

Re: Neck revision is needed.

M
mjnutt
Almost 7 months. I have the same issue with my neck that I started with albeit a little smaller, and I have, what I call pleating skin (see pictures above from 3 months ago) After a visit to the PS 2 months ago, he said he could fix it by re-opening the incision under my neck and re-draping the skin, but wanted me to wait to do the revision. At my visit on Monday, he said the desired results I wanted would need incisions behind the ears to correct it and he wants to charge me $2,400 to do it. The $500 under then chin first option he gave me appears now that it wont fix the issue. I was also informed that he is retiring in May. My decision is; yes I will have a neck revision but with another Dr. It is obvious that he did not take enough skin the first time around, he even told my husband right after surgery that he went as tight as he thought he could but my salivary gland on my left side is very prominent and he did not want it to stick out. It is very obvious not enough skin was tightened the first time around and I will be finding another surgeon to fix the problem in the very near future.

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C
January 27, 2016
Thanks for sharing your story. I have a consultation scheduled for 2/18 for a face lift, just not sure of what stage lift I need yet. I am 50 and hating my neck (esp when I see my reflection on my tablet, looking down is not flattering at all) and I'm getting "jowlsy". At some point during your journey (as I was reading) I almost changed my mind, but then I saw how great you look and how happy you are just shy of the three week mark.
I'm sorry you have to have a revision, especially since it will be such an added cost after all you have been through and paid out already.
I'm hoping to have my surgery within the first two weeks of March.
Some days I'm very excited, other days I wonder if this is what I should be doing.
I work out every day, (think OCD) so the down time is a big concern to me. I actually think I need a break anyway, this will be a forced one.
Again, thank you so much for posting your story, it is such a huge help to people like me.
I will continue to follow as long as you post.
M
January 27, 2016
Thank you for your kind words. just a little advice, get the best lift there is, make sure the SMAS is addressed, if not you will sag after a year or so and be very confident in your surgeon, and maybe, as I should have done, enquire about should a revision be needed what kind of cost is involved. Some PS I read about do them for free, others like mine, charge. For me the journey prior was a rollercoaster of emotions, afterwards some days a little depressed, some days happy, be prepared for emotions that can change by the hour afterwards!. The cost of an additional revision is hard to bear especially as I had a huge medical bill from the ER to deal with from the pneumonia that I contracted from the operating room. I am choosing a different PS to do the revision because I feel he should have got it right in the first place! Good luck, stay strong and despite the ride, it is worth it.
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S
January 28, 2016
What are you going to do about the glands? Mine are massive but I knew they would still be there afterwards as I didn't want to have them cut out, my neck would look much better without them but I don't have the guts to remove them.
M
January 28, 2016
I am doing nothing about them, we need them, if we remove them we will end up with dry mouth so I figured a couple of lumps is better than a lot of sag!
C
January 28, 2016
Thank you for the advice. One of the girls at my doc's office said the muscles would definitely be pulled and corrected to provide long term results, but I will definitely address this concern during the consultation.
Thank you again, I will continue to follow your story.
You have been quite the inspiration!
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K
January 28, 2016
What the uggh! I have a consult on 2/19 this will be my 4th. Reading your post made my stomach churn. I know surgery isn't an exact science and I am prepared for a revision if necessary but no, no way would I pay the same PS THAT much money for a revision!! I'm sorry, I just don't see how he can justify that kind of expensive after all the money you have already invested. That said, I think you look beautiful!! I look forward to reading your follow up & getting the exact results you want! XOXOX
M
January 28, 2016
Thank you for your comment. I am happy to read that you are obviously picking your surgeon wisely! That's how I felt, I will put the money into another surgeons pocket, plus my PS is retiring in May, what if he doesn't get it right this time and he wont be around for round 3. haha.
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ML
January 29, 2016
I'm so sorry to hear about this but you've come this far and I wouldn't be done either until I was totally satisfied...even if it did mean a new surgeon and more money. I think you're doing what's right for you and I'm sure this next time it will be done to your satisfaction. I'm really happy you are going forward. I'll be following you!
M
January 30, 2016
Hi MB, How are you? your results were amazing a couple of new pictures to show off would be great. I kept checking but no new ones of you :-( Yep, more money but I am actually disgusted with the outcome of my neck it looks like the "before" pictures of people on RS. I have a consultation set up with 2 new PS's, but am not happy with having to do this again and take more time of work. Hugs
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ML
February 1, 2016
I'm doing well, thank you! Yes, I do need to update. Been very busy with my ailing mom. Haven't been online much. I'm thinking I may need a revision for the neck as well but my surgeon will do it for me at no cost except I will need to pay for the surgery room and anesthesiologist. My neck is a thousand times better than it was. He waits a year before doing a revision and I will have to wait until the end of Aug because of conflicting schedules. I'm not looking forward to another one either but mine will be not nearly the surgery it was last July. Hugs to you too!
UPDATED FROM mjnutt
5 months post

Neck revision scheduled for February

M
mjnutt
I am not happy with my neck, as I said before. After a visit to the Doctor we are doing a revision. He will go in through chin scar and hopefully fix the loose skin that I still have and address the muscle that is pulling when I look up. I will keep you posted closer to the date.

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A
December 12, 2015
Not great to have to go through it, but good that your PS sees the issue and agrees with you (I can't imagine arguing with a PS who says 'no, it's all fine' as if you're delusional).

You mentioned in your last that you didn't think he would do it for free... did you talk about cost (I know that even if his work is free, there is still sometimes thousands for other costs, so I'm curious how that's handled).
M
December 13, 2015
PS is charging me $400 for meds and operating room nurse. I thought that was fair.
A
December 13, 2015
Sounds absolutely fair. I hope it goes well.