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I Wish I'd Never Had my Surgery
UPDATED FROM RachelDaisy88
9 months post
Rhinoplasty 8 month update
It has been a little over 8 months since my surgeries and I am beyond disappointed with the results. I have decided to post some photos and have done my best to hide my other features. As you can see from the front profile it has healed in a crooked C shape. The tip points off to the left and you can see in the photos where I'm in between front and side profile that it is very obviously an odd shape. On one side it almost looks as though the tip is cut off and then from the opposite side it looks huge.
I emailed Dr Ersin, along with photos of my nose from various angles, to express my disappointment and ask what can be done. I have taken screen shots of his response and my other replies. To summarise he does not feel it is a bad result and tells me that 'minimal asymmetry' is 'highly acceptable'. Personally, I don't think the asymmetry is minimal and actually feel it's very obvious. There may be an element of it seeming worse to me because I look at my face and obsess over it every day but I don't think I'm being unreasonable in saying that the result isn't good. I have also asked Doctor Ersin several times for my surgery records so that I can share with any potential surgeon should I decide on revision surgery in the future but he continues to ignore this request.
There is no significant change on the liposuction results to report on. Pain is all but gone. The numbnese and tingly sensations remain albeit not as noticeable. Tightness always seems worse just before I'm due my period but is not unbearable. The lumps in my back remain the same. Another real self user recommended a specific person who specialises in post surgery massage but I have been unable to organise this yet.
Mentally I'm doing much better but don't think I'll ever fully get over how this experience has affected and changed me. What would have been my due date just passed almost 2 weeks ago so that stirred a lot of emotions up. It makes the poor results of my surgeries feel all the worse because everytime I look at myself and hate what I see I'm reminded of what might have been. I really wish I hadn't done it. I think I will definitely look into revision surgery even though the thought of trusting someone with my face again fills me with dread. Dr Ersin said in his email that he does not recommend a revision and thinks the result will be even worse... I don't know what to think about that and will be seeking a second, third and fourth opinion!
I emailed Dr Ersin, along with photos of my nose from various angles, to express my disappointment and ask what can be done. I have taken screen shots of his response and my other replies. To summarise he does not feel it is a bad result and tells me that 'minimal asymmetry' is 'highly acceptable'. Personally, I don't think the asymmetry is minimal and actually feel it's very obvious. There may be an element of it seeming worse to me because I look at my face and obsess over it every day but I don't think I'm being unreasonable in saying that the result isn't good. I have also asked Doctor Ersin several times for my surgery records so that I can share with any potential surgeon should I decide on revision surgery in the future but he continues to ignore this request.
There is no significant change on the liposuction results to report on. Pain is all but gone. The numbnese and tingly sensations remain albeit not as noticeable. Tightness always seems worse just before I'm due my period but is not unbearable. The lumps in my back remain the same. Another real self user recommended a specific person who specialises in post surgery massage but I have been unable to organise this yet.
Mentally I'm doing much better but don't think I'll ever fully get over how this experience has affected and changed me. What would have been my due date just passed almost 2 weeks ago so that stirred a lot of emotions up. It makes the poor results of my surgeries feel all the worse because everytime I look at myself and hate what I see I'm reminded of what might have been. I really wish I hadn't done it. I think I will definitely look into revision surgery even though the thought of trusting someone with my face again fills me with dread. Dr Ersin said in his email that he does not recommend a revision and thinks the result will be even worse... I don't know what to think about that and will be seeking a second, third and fourth opinion!
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UPDATED FROM RachelDaisy88
5 months post
Photos
I have decided to upload some photos of how awful my back liposuction has turned out. I hope people understand but I have decided not to post photos of my rhinoplasty as I do not want to be identified. I appreciate that it is unlikely that anyone I know will ever see this but due to the nature of my experience I do not want to risk it. Sorry that the quality of the photos aren't great but I think you are able to see what the problem is. The photos don't really show just how bad it is but I think the lumpy bit I am talking about is clear. I have tried to take pictures from different angles. I hope this is helpful.
Replies (4)
Did you have any aftercare?
No aftercare. I was told I could contact them if need be but the one time I did because of a painful red mark on my inner thigh that wouldn't go away he said it looked fine (from a photo I sent) and to see my GP in UK if I was still worried. I saw my GP a few days after who thought it could be a burn from overly aggressive lipo. He was also unhelpful when I told him about the situation that followed and I did not trust what he had to say anyway as he became very defensive.
In hindsight I would never go to someone that doesn't offer decent aftercare. I would recommend looking for a surgeon closer to home who is able to see you again for a check up in the weeks/months after your surgery. When I was researching before I found surgeons from Belgium/Poland etc who ran clinics in the UK every other week to check up on their patients progress. I would strongly recommend to anyone thinking of getting surgery abroad to find a surgeon that offers this level of aftercare. I wish I had.
In hindsight I would never go to someone that doesn't offer decent aftercare. I would recommend looking for a surgeon closer to home who is able to see you again for a check up in the weeks/months after your surgery. When I was researching before I found surgeons from Belgium/Poland etc who ran clinics in the UK every other week to check up on their patients progress. I would strongly recommend to anyone thinking of getting surgery abroad to find a surgeon that offers this level of aftercare. I wish I had.
Hi Rachel, I'm not trying to be rude at all but had you have researched liposuction you would have seen that there is an aftercare process that you have to personally folllow and organise. As with any surgeon once they have done their bit they are done, the rest is up to you! Ie what you eat, how you take care of yourself, lymphatic drainage etc just to name a few.
Moving forward the lump on your back can easily be fixed, I'm not sure where abouts you are situated or if your on social media? Inbox me for more details if not. There is the most amazing lymphatic drainage and body contouring specialist who deals in post operative care his name on Instagram is momassages. I can assure you once you have the correct aftercare you will love your body and see the new shape. Honestly you'll thank me for it later as I know you must be uncomfortable with the lump on your back. I know nothing about your nose so I can't pass comment but as for lipo it is a very painful and long healing process and without a lot of research I can see why people aren't happy with their results. The aftercare is crucial.
I was operated on by dr Ersin and quite frankly I couldn't imagine him to be rude or hostile or mean, I've accompanied 2 other people too and found him and Murat and their team to be the kindest and gentlest people who were so attentive. I'd go as far as to say I've not had better treatment in the Uk or Brussels than I had in Turkey with Dr Ersin. He would be my first choose 100 times over for liposuction and fat transfer. Also every country has a different guideline on how much fat on average should be removed, it's not the same for everyone as again there are safety guidelines as well as each individuals body. When I had my surgery with doctor Ersin the Uk guideline was 2 litres, I had many consultations with surgeons in the USA, Dominican Republic and Europe and they all gave pretty much the same volume of fat removal estimates as Dr Ersin took which was 7 litres overall around different areas of my body. I hope this information helps you. X
Sorry, I think I misunderstood what you were asking me. Your question was quite broad and I assumed that as my review is of doctor Ersin you meant what aftercare was provided personally by him and not what steps I had taken to aid a smoother recovery myself. My apologies.
In terms of what I did myself I was already preparing my body months ahead of the surgery. I am generally very fit and active anyway but made an extra effort to cut out unnecessary sugar and salt from my diet. I do not smoke and don't drink a lot of alcohol but cut that out completely too.
The opposite is actually true about the level of research I undertook pre operation. I researched extensively about what to expect pain wise (almost everything I read was that the most pain would be gone in 4-5 days and this was not the case for me) and what I could do post operation to speed up the healing process.
I was aware of lymphatic drainage before I had the procedure and this was also something that doctor Ersin suggested I organise. I had 12 sessions in total with someone who was recommended not far from where I live and unfortunately my lumpy back remains. After over 6 months now this leads me to feel that the lumps are not caused by swelling but uneven and aggressive liposuction. I'm sorry I can't find a better way to explain this but from the top of my butt crack to where the lump starts it feels like there is nothing between my skin and spine. It feels like too much was taken from that area so now the 'shelf' of fat just sits on top of it.
In addition to the lymphatic drainage I was also dry brushing daily to try and stimulate my lymphatic system further. I purchased a roller type contraption that was to supposed to help to break up scar tissue and I used that several times a day. I continue to self massage daily when in the shower any areas that are still lumpy (not all lumps are visible but can feel them unfer my skin). I wore my compression garment for 2.5 months instead of the 1 month recommended by Dr Ersin and also purchased my own higher quality garment shortly after arriving home as the one given to me by Dr Ersin was baggy and ill fitting even when adjusted to as tight as it could go. I was also keeping as active as possible.
Regarding his attitude he was nothing short of a professional and had a lovely demeanor up until the point I was experiencing problems. During my consultation he was very warm and reassuring but things quickly changed after my procedure when I complained of pain and sickness. This is when he started to treat me with a different attitude and was rude and dismissive of my symptoms. I think he took it personally and maybe felt that my complaints of extreme, burning pain and horrid sickness were an attack on him. He also seemed to be under the impression that I was exaggerating how much pain I was in (which I would rate at 10/10) and was very impatient and snappy with me. Just for some context I have broken bones, torn ligaments, dislocated my knee and been hospitalised for ruptured ovarian cysts in the past but none of that comes close to the pain I had in the days, weeks and months following my liposuction surgery. I just wanted to feel listened to and taken seriously but he ignored my pleas for help when I had never felt worse in my life. He told me it was my fault for not eating that I felt so unwell. I continued to try and eat despite throwing up everytime I managed to get food down. I felt completely hopeless and terrified being in a foreign country and then abandoned in a hotel room.
I imagine if everything had gone smoothly I would have continued to only experience the kind, warm and attentive side of Dr Ersin so I can completely understand why you would struggle to imagine the other side of him. I am truly glad for you that your surgery was a success and that you were treated well throughout. Please do not assume though that because your experience was positive that mine must have been too.
It has been 6 months since my surgery and honestly being unhappy with the result is not the worst thing about it. The whole experience and then what I ended up going through afterwards has ruined me. I don't feel I'll ever really recover from this, mentally that is.
Thank you for the advice and I will look into the specialist you mentioned.
In terms of what I did myself I was already preparing my body months ahead of the surgery. I am generally very fit and active anyway but made an extra effort to cut out unnecessary sugar and salt from my diet. I do not smoke and don't drink a lot of alcohol but cut that out completely too.
The opposite is actually true about the level of research I undertook pre operation. I researched extensively about what to expect pain wise (almost everything I read was that the most pain would be gone in 4-5 days and this was not the case for me) and what I could do post operation to speed up the healing process.
I was aware of lymphatic drainage before I had the procedure and this was also something that doctor Ersin suggested I organise. I had 12 sessions in total with someone who was recommended not far from where I live and unfortunately my lumpy back remains. After over 6 months now this leads me to feel that the lumps are not caused by swelling but uneven and aggressive liposuction. I'm sorry I can't find a better way to explain this but from the top of my butt crack to where the lump starts it feels like there is nothing between my skin and spine. It feels like too much was taken from that area so now the 'shelf' of fat just sits on top of it.
In addition to the lymphatic drainage I was also dry brushing daily to try and stimulate my lymphatic system further. I purchased a roller type contraption that was to supposed to help to break up scar tissue and I used that several times a day. I continue to self massage daily when in the shower any areas that are still lumpy (not all lumps are visible but can feel them unfer my skin). I wore my compression garment for 2.5 months instead of the 1 month recommended by Dr Ersin and also purchased my own higher quality garment shortly after arriving home as the one given to me by Dr Ersin was baggy and ill fitting even when adjusted to as tight as it could go. I was also keeping as active as possible.
Regarding his attitude he was nothing short of a professional and had a lovely demeanor up until the point I was experiencing problems. During my consultation he was very warm and reassuring but things quickly changed after my procedure when I complained of pain and sickness. This is when he started to treat me with a different attitude and was rude and dismissive of my symptoms. I think he took it personally and maybe felt that my complaints of extreme, burning pain and horrid sickness were an attack on him. He also seemed to be under the impression that I was exaggerating how much pain I was in (which I would rate at 10/10) and was very impatient and snappy with me. Just for some context I have broken bones, torn ligaments, dislocated my knee and been hospitalised for ruptured ovarian cysts in the past but none of that comes close to the pain I had in the days, weeks and months following my liposuction surgery. I just wanted to feel listened to and taken seriously but he ignored my pleas for help when I had never felt worse in my life. He told me it was my fault for not eating that I felt so unwell. I continued to try and eat despite throwing up everytime I managed to get food down. I felt completely hopeless and terrified being in a foreign country and then abandoned in a hotel room.
I imagine if everything had gone smoothly I would have continued to only experience the kind, warm and attentive side of Dr Ersin so I can completely understand why you would struggle to imagine the other side of him. I am truly glad for you that your surgery was a success and that you were treated well throughout. Please do not assume though that because your experience was positive that mine must have been too.
It has been 6 months since my surgery and honestly being unhappy with the result is not the worst thing about it. The whole experience and then what I ended up going through afterwards has ruined me. I don't feel I'll ever really recover from this, mentally that is.
Thank you for the advice and I will look into the specialist you mentioned.
I'm glad you responded, I can't tell you enough to go and see Marcelo, no matter how long ago your surgery was he will get that lump gone and will smooth and contour everything out. All surgeons will tell you lipo doesn't hurt and you'll be fine in a few days, it's lies anywhere you go you will still experience pain up to a year later. So your not alone, it is a very hard operation to undergo, but I genuinely believe the pain you experienced you would have experienced. However I'm sorry for you and the way you felt about your experience it's a real shame. I honestly hope for your sake that you do go and see Marcelo. Let me know if you do
Thank you. I will let you know. I'm not currently in the UK so it will have to wait anyway. I wonder if you're able to tell me if much can be done in one session? If I found the right guy on Instagram he's based in Birmingham and it's quite a distance from me.
You will notice a huge difference in one session, yes that's him, he covers most of the Uk with a clinic in Knightsbridge London, he has a few members of staff now but I can't vouch for them (I'm sure their fabulous) but I would definitely see him, he's the guru! Magic hands! Take a look at his page and you'll see a lot of before and after pictures
Oh great. Knightsbridge would be much easier for me to get to. Like I say it'll be a while before I can but if I do I'll update on how it goes. Thank you for the recommendation : )
Thank you for your opinion. I also left a review on google where Dr Ersin replied. I hope his response is evidence enough for you.
Hey did you do lymphatic drainage massage after your surgery? I’m sorry this happened to you. I’m really concerned now, because I am booked to have 360 Lipo and BBL with Dr Ersin at clinic wise. I don’t know what to do
ORIGINAL POST
I Wish I'd Never Had my Surgery
I had surgery with Dr Ersin Gonullu on 23rd September 2019 so have waited nearly 5 months to write my review so that I can also comment on how things have healed and settled.
The short version is that I do not recommend this surgeon. He operated on me whilst I pregnant (I was not aware at the time but was late for my period which I had made the nurse doing the pre op checks aware of. I put this down to anxiety at the time and told her that I have been late in the past due to stress). Naively I assumed the standards would be similar to the UK and had no reason to doubt that pregnancy wasn't one of the things checked for in my blood test. For me this is enough to warn others against using this surgeon as it demonstrates that your safety is not a priority of his. If you want to know the other reasons why I do not recommend him please read on.I chose Dr Gonullu after months of research and was impressed with his positive reviews. I asked for a price for Rhinoplasty and liposuction on my stomach. The company I booked through said that Dr Gonullu said he would do the rhinoplasty and 360 liposuction (the whole midsection) so everything blended and I agreed that made sense. He said it would look out of proportion if I went for the tummy area only. I should have heard alarm bells when no phone or video consultation was offered before I arrived in Turkey. The first time I met or spoke to him was right before my operations. Once again I should have sensed something wasn't quite right when during my consultation he passed comment on my breasts and other parts of my body and suggested other sugeries that I should also have. On reflection he was obviously just trying to get more money out of me by playing into body image insecurities.After the operations I woke feeling very sick and in a lot of pain. Initially I thought the compression garment I was put in was on way too tight but that is actually just how my body felt. It's a very difficult sensation to describe but it was incredibly uncomfortable and painful and because he had done liposuction around my entire mid section no position other than standing was comfortable.I was rushed out of the hospital the following morning despite still feeling very sick and being in the most pain I have ever experienced in my life. As a result I ended up back in that evening because the pain was unbearable and I could not lay down. The pain in my back felt like a balloon full of boiling water was right under my skin. The pressure was like nothing else I'd ever felt. When doctor Gonullu came to see me that day he almost seemed angry because I had come back to the hospital. He told me the pain I was describing was unusual after the surgeries I'd had and suggested I was exaggerating. He and his assistant were then very rough changing my dressings and it was so painful it caused me to cry out. I am normally a very shy person so to cause a scene is completely out of character and goes to show how much pain he was causing me. He left telling me that it costs £250 per night to stay in the hospital and he didn't want to hear I'd gone back in again. Fast forward to that evening and the pain is once again unbearable and I now have chills and full body tremors that won't stop. I am terrified and seriously regretting coming to Turkey where I do not feel safe or in away looked after or cared about by the surgeon that I chose. That night I call the translator and tell them I need to get back to the hospital. The translator gets in touch with Dr Ersin Gonullu who tells them that I cannot go to hospital unless I pay £250. This I find very troubling because someone else could be in a bad way and not have the additional funds to go back to hospital and could find themselves very unwell. Fortunately I had the money but I thought it was awful that he was charging me extra when the reason I was in so much pain was due to the surgeries he performed which I believe he was too aggressive with and removed way more fat than was necessary. He told me after my surgery that he had removed 6 litres of fat. I later found out that the maximum recommended is no more than 5 litres and I wasn't very big to start with. I also believe that being 4 weeks pregnant while going through all this would have contributed to how sick I felt. He was very rude when I saw him in the hospital again and was once again unnecessarily rough when changing my dressings.The healing process over the next few months was painful and slow. It is only in the last couple of months that the pain has faded to general discomfort. I am still numb in places and anything touching the skin around my midsection feels very strange. I have marble like bumps under the skin and a big red mark on my inner thigh which I later found out from another doctor is a cannular burn caused by overly aggressive liposuction. I am most upset with the results on my back especially given that I didn't even ask for my back to be done in the first place. He took so much fat from the lower back that there is now a weird bulge above it that sticks out and just looks awful. I'm going away in a couple of months and there's no way I will be able to wear a bikini with how ridiculous it looks. I'm also not very happy with my nose. The main issue I had was a hump on the bridge which he shaved down. He also suggested lifting the tip of my nose slightly which I agreed to. Whilst my nose does look better than before the tip is now off slightly to the left which it wasn't before and like with the liposuction I wish I'd just stuck firm with what I wanted rather than letting him talk me into more.Once I learned I was pregnant (some 4 weeks after getting home) I got in touch with the company (surgeryTR, who I also do not recommend at all) to try and find out what medication I'd been given in the hospital. Dr Ersin had not provided me with any notes or paperwork to take home so I had no idea what I'd taken and if it could affect the pregnancy. When I complained to the company about having not been tested for pregnacy prior to surgery I was told they would speak to Dr Ersin Gonullu and investigate. This is the response I got:'There was a question on the medical history form and you declared no pregnancy on the form.The necessary pre-operative tests and questionnaire are done in the hospital before the surgery. The standard preoperative tests don't include the pregnancy test in all around the world instead there is question about the pregnancy in the medical questionnaire. It is a regular process in any kind of surgical procedure. Medical staff investigates the pregnancy if patient has a doubt of pregnancy in order to double check. There are questions about the pregnancy and period cycle. You gave negative answer to question about the pregnancy. Patient declaration is the only thing that is taken into consideration in this kind of situation. Doctor confirmed your surgery after viewing your medical history form and test results.'Weirdly enough I didn't know I was pregnant so of course did not 'declare this'. I continued to try and encourage this company and Dr Gonullu to test all women of child bearing age for pregnancy to avoid this ever happening again but all they did was continue to place blame on me and deny any responsibility for what happened. I find it all really sad because a pregnancy test doesn't even cost £1 and to them I wasn't even worth that, not even to ensure my safety.Ultimately I ended up having a termination because there were too many medications I had taken that were not advisable during pregnancy and also general anesthetic in the 1st trimester increases the risk of still birth and other problems. As well as all of this my body had gone through such a trauma and was in so much pain that I didn't think I could cope with the physical stress of a pregnancy. That is the only time I have ever been pregnant in my life and I was very unlucky that my contraception failed at the worst possible time. It breaks my heart every day when I think about the termination and how different things might have been if they had just done that test. I feel very strongly that it's not worth the risk just to save a bit of money. I would never have gone ahead with the surgeries had I known.To summarise I do not recommend this surgeon because he operated on me whilst I was pregnant, tried to talk me into having more surgeries, was rude to me on several occasions after my surgeries, manhandled me when I was already in a lot of pain which caused me a lot of distress, was too aggressive with the liposuction, removing too much fat and leaving me with a deformed back and painful lumps under my skin. I am also disappointed with how he has shaped the tip of my nose. I have plently of evidence that I was a patient of his and am happy to provide proof should anyone wish to see it.
The short version is that I do not recommend this surgeon. He operated on me whilst I pregnant (I was not aware at the time but was late for my period which I had made the nurse doing the pre op checks aware of. I put this down to anxiety at the time and told her that I have been late in the past due to stress). Naively I assumed the standards would be similar to the UK and had no reason to doubt that pregnancy wasn't one of the things checked for in my blood test. For me this is enough to warn others against using this surgeon as it demonstrates that your safety is not a priority of his. If you want to know the other reasons why I do not recommend him please read on.I chose Dr Gonullu after months of research and was impressed with his positive reviews. I asked for a price for Rhinoplasty and liposuction on my stomach. The company I booked through said that Dr Gonullu said he would do the rhinoplasty and 360 liposuction (the whole midsection) so everything blended and I agreed that made sense. He said it would look out of proportion if I went for the tummy area only. I should have heard alarm bells when no phone or video consultation was offered before I arrived in Turkey. The first time I met or spoke to him was right before my operations. Once again I should have sensed something wasn't quite right when during my consultation he passed comment on my breasts and other parts of my body and suggested other sugeries that I should also have. On reflection he was obviously just trying to get more money out of me by playing into body image insecurities.After the operations I woke feeling very sick and in a lot of pain. Initially I thought the compression garment I was put in was on way too tight but that is actually just how my body felt. It's a very difficult sensation to describe but it was incredibly uncomfortable and painful and because he had done liposuction around my entire mid section no position other than standing was comfortable.I was rushed out of the hospital the following morning despite still feeling very sick and being in the most pain I have ever experienced in my life. As a result I ended up back in that evening because the pain was unbearable and I could not lay down. The pain in my back felt like a balloon full of boiling water was right under my skin. The pressure was like nothing else I'd ever felt. When doctor Gonullu came to see me that day he almost seemed angry because I had come back to the hospital. He told me the pain I was describing was unusual after the surgeries I'd had and suggested I was exaggerating. He and his assistant were then very rough changing my dressings and it was so painful it caused me to cry out. I am normally a very shy person so to cause a scene is completely out of character and goes to show how much pain he was causing me. He left telling me that it costs £250 per night to stay in the hospital and he didn't want to hear I'd gone back in again. Fast forward to that evening and the pain is once again unbearable and I now have chills and full body tremors that won't stop. I am terrified and seriously regretting coming to Turkey where I do not feel safe or in away looked after or cared about by the surgeon that I chose. That night I call the translator and tell them I need to get back to the hospital. The translator gets in touch with Dr Ersin Gonullu who tells them that I cannot go to hospital unless I pay £250. This I find very troubling because someone else could be in a bad way and not have the additional funds to go back to hospital and could find themselves very unwell. Fortunately I had the money but I thought it was awful that he was charging me extra when the reason I was in so much pain was due to the surgeries he performed which I believe he was too aggressive with and removed way more fat than was necessary. He told me after my surgery that he had removed 6 litres of fat. I later found out that the maximum recommended is no more than 5 litres and I wasn't very big to start with. I also believe that being 4 weeks pregnant while going through all this would have contributed to how sick I felt. He was very rude when I saw him in the hospital again and was once again unnecessarily rough when changing my dressings.The healing process over the next few months was painful and slow. It is only in the last couple of months that the pain has faded to general discomfort. I am still numb in places and anything touching the skin around my midsection feels very strange. I have marble like bumps under the skin and a big red mark on my inner thigh which I later found out from another doctor is a cannular burn caused by overly aggressive liposuction. I am most upset with the results on my back especially given that I didn't even ask for my back to be done in the first place. He took so much fat from the lower back that there is now a weird bulge above it that sticks out and just looks awful. I'm going away in a couple of months and there's no way I will be able to wear a bikini with how ridiculous it looks. I'm also not very happy with my nose. The main issue I had was a hump on the bridge which he shaved down. He also suggested lifting the tip of my nose slightly which I agreed to. Whilst my nose does look better than before the tip is now off slightly to the left which it wasn't before and like with the liposuction I wish I'd just stuck firm with what I wanted rather than letting him talk me into more.Once I learned I was pregnant (some 4 weeks after getting home) I got in touch with the company (surgeryTR, who I also do not recommend at all) to try and find out what medication I'd been given in the hospital. Dr Ersin had not provided me with any notes or paperwork to take home so I had no idea what I'd taken and if it could affect the pregnancy. When I complained to the company about having not been tested for pregnacy prior to surgery I was told they would speak to Dr Ersin Gonullu and investigate. This is the response I got:'There was a question on the medical history form and you declared no pregnancy on the form.The necessary pre-operative tests and questionnaire are done in the hospital before the surgery. The standard preoperative tests don't include the pregnancy test in all around the world instead there is question about the pregnancy in the medical questionnaire. It is a regular process in any kind of surgical procedure. Medical staff investigates the pregnancy if patient has a doubt of pregnancy in order to double check. There are questions about the pregnancy and period cycle. You gave negative answer to question about the pregnancy. Patient declaration is the only thing that is taken into consideration in this kind of situation. Doctor confirmed your surgery after viewing your medical history form and test results.'Weirdly enough I didn't know I was pregnant so of course did not 'declare this'. I continued to try and encourage this company and Dr Gonullu to test all women of child bearing age for pregnancy to avoid this ever happening again but all they did was continue to place blame on me and deny any responsibility for what happened. I find it all really sad because a pregnancy test doesn't even cost £1 and to them I wasn't even worth that, not even to ensure my safety.Ultimately I ended up having a termination because there were too many medications I had taken that were not advisable during pregnancy and also general anesthetic in the 1st trimester increases the risk of still birth and other problems. As well as all of this my body had gone through such a trauma and was in so much pain that I didn't think I could cope with the physical stress of a pregnancy. That is the only time I have ever been pregnant in my life and I was very unlucky that my contraception failed at the worst possible time. It breaks my heart every day when I think about the termination and how different things might have been if they had just done that test. I feel very strongly that it's not worth the risk just to save a bit of money. I would never have gone ahead with the surgeries had I known.To summarise I do not recommend this surgeon because he operated on me whilst I was pregnant, tried to talk me into having more surgeries, was rude to me on several occasions after my surgeries, manhandled me when I was already in a lot of pain which caused me a lot of distress, was too aggressive with the liposuction, removing too much fat and leaving me with a deformed back and painful lumps under my skin. I am also disappointed with how he has shaped the tip of my nose. I have plently of evidence that I was a patient of his and am happy to provide proof should anyone wish to see it.
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I'm so sorry to read about your experience. It sounds absolutely devastating. I hope you can find some support in our community.
Thanks Roger x
I'm so so sorry this happened to you ! :(
Thank you x
I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. My heart goes out to you wholeheartedly and thank you for sharing your story with us all. Sending you all my best wishes d thoughts.
Thank you x
I'm sorry but you do not know me so I am unsure how you came to the conclusion that there was 'clearly a huge chance' I was pregnant?
As I explained in my review it is not unusual for my periods to be irregular and in the past have been late due to stress. As I had been worrying about the surgery in the weeks leading up to going to Turkey I had no reason to doubt my contraception and that I was just late due to being anxious. It really never crossed my mind that it could be a possibility.
I have not at any point stated that I was not asked if I was pregnant. I was asked just before my surgery where I stated I did not believe I was pregnant but did pass on the information that I was expecting my period and it was late. I also explained this to doctor Ersin who told me to just put a tampon in ahead of surgery in case it turned up then.
The thing I have a problem with is that being asked alone is clearly not reliable and I am living proof of that. I feel that as is standard practice in other countries I should have been asked to take a pregnancy test whether there were concerns or not. I am of child bearing age and contraception is not 100%.
I'm not sure what you hoped to achieve with your comment but if it was to upset me I can confirm you were successful. Not a day goes by where I don't hate myself for what happened. Every day I ask myself how I could not have noticed something as huge as being pregnant. I obsess over it. I wish I could change it. I often sit and wonder how big my bump would be if I had been tested and not gone ahead with the surgery.
As much as your comment hurt like a kick to the stomach it cannot make me feel worse about myself than I already do.
The only reason I wrote this review was to let others know that this can and did happen then it's up to you what decision you make with that information.
As I explained in my review it is not unusual for my periods to be irregular and in the past have been late due to stress. As I had been worrying about the surgery in the weeks leading up to going to Turkey I had no reason to doubt my contraception and that I was just late due to being anxious. It really never crossed my mind that it could be a possibility.
I have not at any point stated that I was not asked if I was pregnant. I was asked just before my surgery where I stated I did not believe I was pregnant but did pass on the information that I was expecting my period and it was late. I also explained this to doctor Ersin who told me to just put a tampon in ahead of surgery in case it turned up then.
The thing I have a problem with is that being asked alone is clearly not reliable and I am living proof of that. I feel that as is standard practice in other countries I should have been asked to take a pregnancy test whether there were concerns or not. I am of child bearing age and contraception is not 100%.
I'm not sure what you hoped to achieve with your comment but if it was to upset me I can confirm you were successful. Not a day goes by where I don't hate myself for what happened. Every day I ask myself how I could not have noticed something as huge as being pregnant. I obsess over it. I wish I could change it. I often sit and wonder how big my bump would be if I had been tested and not gone ahead with the surgery.
As much as your comment hurt like a kick to the stomach it cannot make me feel worse about myself than I already do.
The only reason I wrote this review was to let others know that this can and did happen then it's up to you what decision you make with that information.
I am fully aware that sex is what can lead to pregnacy. But thank you for pointing that out. The reason I disagree with your comment about there clearly being 'huge' chance (which did feel shaming by the way) was because of all the years I have been sexually active and using contraception it has never failed me. Perhaps a 'small' chance might have been a friendlier way to word it but that doesn't matter now.
Also I do have quite a good knowledge of what goes on with my body which is why it didn't cross my mind. My periods are often irregular and affected by stress. I once missed a period entirely when I was going through a particularly stressful time in my life (I am hating myself for feeling like I need to justify all this to an internet stranger but feel need to defend myself all the same).
As I said I constantly beat myself up for missing the signs that were there that I put down to nerves and I do feel responsible. I can tell you that I was beyond terrified the morning of my surgery having never done anything like that before so questioning pregnancy was the last thing in my mind.
Forgive me but I cannot remember people's names or the word for word answers I gave for the questions but if like you say I should surely have should have known there could have been a chance what with being sexually active then surely a medical professional would have also questioned that with the answers that I gave. They knew I was sexually active but using contraception.
I completely take on that I was stupid enough to assume things would work in a similar way to the UK. I regret this every day. Pregnancy tests are very cheap so I just feel that given that it can happen it should be checked for. My case proves just asking the patient is not 100% reliable.
I'm sorry if that doesn't clear things up for you but I really don't think I can continue this conversation anymore. This was one of the worst things I ever been through in my life and I find it difficult enough to discuss with my own friends and family so this is really hard for me.
Also I do have quite a good knowledge of what goes on with my body which is why it didn't cross my mind. My periods are often irregular and affected by stress. I once missed a period entirely when I was going through a particularly stressful time in my life (I am hating myself for feeling like I need to justify all this to an internet stranger but feel need to defend myself all the same).
As I said I constantly beat myself up for missing the signs that were there that I put down to nerves and I do feel responsible. I can tell you that I was beyond terrified the morning of my surgery having never done anything like that before so questioning pregnancy was the last thing in my mind.
Forgive me but I cannot remember people's names or the word for word answers I gave for the questions but if like you say I should surely have should have known there could have been a chance what with being sexually active then surely a medical professional would have also questioned that with the answers that I gave. They knew I was sexually active but using contraception.
I completely take on that I was stupid enough to assume things would work in a similar way to the UK. I regret this every day. Pregnancy tests are very cheap so I just feel that given that it can happen it should be checked for. My case proves just asking the patient is not 100% reliable.
I'm sorry if that doesn't clear things up for you but I really don't think I can continue this conversation anymore. This was one of the worst things I ever been through in my life and I find it difficult enough to discuss with my own friends and family so this is really hard for me.
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You're right!