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Septoplasty and Turbinoplasty to Ease Chronic Sinus Infections - Quincy, MA

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After years of chronic sinus infections and...

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missmgmnt
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After years of chronic sinus infections and allergies, I'm taking the plunge and getting my deviated septum repaired and getting a turbinate reduction at the same time. My insurance will be covering the procedure, so I don't know the cost to quote for you - sorry! If I remember I'll try to find out and add it to my updates. Dr. Ambrus ordered a CTScan to see if my sinuses needed any work while he was at it, but it looks like they aren't too bad so we're going to skip that.

Dr. Ambrus explained the risks involve anesthetic reaction (I haven't really had problems with in the past aside from nausea, so hopefully no big deal again this time), bleeding, infection, hole in the septum (which I'm told could make a whistling sound when I breath through my nose), persistent sinus problems (already have those), continued nasal problems, snoring, nasal crusting / drainage problems (he said I'll encounter this during the healing phase), continued headaches, persistent allergies (already have those), and possibly loss of smell (my sense of smell is fairly weak at the moment - something has to have a particularly strong odor for me to catch it - which more often than not is a good thing actually).

The pics I've posted don't really show how severe the deviated septum is - the closure is more noticeable inside the nostril, up close. You can see that one side is much more narrow than the other. But when I took a closer picture there were like a gazillion nose hairs... I didn't feel like sharing that one with the world. LOL - so just take my word for it. The pics I did include show that my nose curves to the side.

I'll post more pictures after the procedure, and provide more feedback throughout healing so you'll have a better idea what you are in for if you are considering these procedures.

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Peter S. Ambrus, M.D., P.C.

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March 16, 2016

I am so glad that you joined us to share your journey -- I wish you well and I will keep an eye out for your updates to hear how your surgery goes. ☺

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March 17, 2016
Thanks Eva! I'm heading in there in the morning - scheduled for 8 AM! I'll post some follow ups as soon as I feel up to it. :-)
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March 18, 2016

I hope everything went well today! 

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March 18, 2016
It did - thank you! I posted an update and added pictures. There's a couple bloody ones, so I added a warning so anyone who is squeamish can avoid viewing them. :-)
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March 19, 2016

Thanks for sharing. 

March 22, 2016
Hi....I was very excited to hear your story and start following your journey. I also have suffered from sinus infections (like forget z-pacs, those haven't worked in along time)!!! I recently went to an ENT to finally put a end to this way of living. I have a deviated septum, need endoscopic sinus surgery to get more airflow through (mine are like the width of a pencil tip vs the width of the whole pencil) When you said you had the inability to feel rested after sleep a lightbulb went off!!! OMG I never figured that out on my own. So I thought with all that inside stuff getting done I might as well suffer a little more and get my rhinoplasty revision at the same time. I finally feel like someone else knows what I'm talking about. I go for my second consult on April 1st with a facial plastic surgeon /ENT. Thanks for sharing your story. I need to get my story posted soon. Glad all is going well so far!!!!
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June 13, 2016
Thank you! I'm all healed up and so glad I had the surgery done. I saw you had some work done too. I hope you're healing up well and love your results!
June 2, 2016
Hello I m suffering nasal blockage problem since 7 years every night during sleep my nose become blocked so I m thinking for nasal turbinate reduction..Plzz tell how is ur condition during sleep did u sleep well after surgery ur nose not blocked anymore when u sleeping..?
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June 13, 2016
I have difficulty sleeping but not because of my nose - I have shoulder and back injuries that wake me. But I have not had to take one allergy pill since my surgery - and I used to have to take 4 a day everyday or I'd get a sinus infection. So I'm thrilled with my results!
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Day of treatment

Day 1 - Day of Surgery

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***WARNING: if you don't like the sight of blood, don't click on my pictures!***

OK so I was up before the birds this morning to get into the hospital by 6:30 AM. My son came with me so he could drive me home. A little after 6:30 AM a nurse came back and took me to get ready for my surgery. She verified my information, and what procedures I was having done, and by who. Then she had me get dressed into just a hospital gown and slipper socks. Oddly comfortable attire! Each staff member I came into contact from there on performed this same verification process for obvious security and safety reasons.

They had a hard time placing the IV at my wrist because I have itty bitty veins - I wasn't surprised - this happens to me all the time. I hate having blood drawn and having IV's placed in because my veins put on a stellar hide and seek performance every time! She ended up placing it up at the inner elbow instead - it went in easy there.

I met with the Anesthesiologist and he was very nice. He reviewed my history and told me because of my medical history he was going to throw the kitchen sink at me to try to make sure I wasn't nauseous or have a reaction to the anesthesia. I am hypothyroid, have a history of nausea after Anesthesia and even Novocaine, and also have nerve damage to my spine because of a car accident in 2014. So I'm sure these things probably make his job more challenging. I felt a lot better knowing he took note of these things without me having to remind him or bring them up first. Then I told him I saw that movie "Awake" with Hayden Christensen and he laughed and told me "Not a chance!" - LOL... OK here's my first piece of advice for any of you scheduled to undergo any surgery. Do NOT do what I did (and probably will do over and over again because I am a glutton for punishment).

1. DON'T Youtube videos of the procedure
2. DON'T Youtube videos of first-hand accounts of the procedure
3. DON'T watch Hollywood thrillers like "Awake" (or that episode of Nip/Tuck) and then Google "anesthesia awareness" Just don't...

All 3 of these things will leave you paranoid about these extreme "what ifs" and seriously contemplating skipping out on your surgery. Now I needed this surgery - I have (hopefully now I can upgrade that to "had") sinus infections that never cleared up, I had to over-medicate to keep them at bay, I couldn't breath properly and was unable to perform even the light physical activities I can enjoy - swimming being one of them, I got lightheaded a lot because of lack of oxygen, and it played a factor in my inability to feel rested after a good night's sleep. So scaring myself out of the procedure would have been a real bonehead moved and a huge disservice to myself! So DON'T do what I did!

OK moving on. :-) I was unable to remove my nose ring. I desperately tried, but that sucker had been in for almost 2 decades. It wasn't going anywhere. The Nurses, Anesthesiologist, and even Dr. Ambrus watched me try and they all grimaced and told me to stop! LOL - and these folks see people cut open every day! But no one wants to see you trying to yank a piercing out of your nose - it's not the funnest thing to experience or apparently watch others experience. Haha - so he said he would try to remove it while I was under, and if not he asked me if I would be upset if they had to cut it off. I said I'd be bummed cause of sentimental value, but I'd get over it. Possessions are fleeting!

So the Surgical Nurse came over and gave me a starter cocktail and wheeled me into the room for surgery. They got me all comfy and we chatted a bit. A nice young nursing assistant asked me if I'd like her to try to remove my piercing when I fell asleep if she could, rather than cut it. I thanked her and said I'd appreciate that. Next thing I knew I hear people calling my name and I'm being wheeled into recovery... WOW! I didn't even feel myself go under! Now THAT is impressive!

Initially upon waking, I could actually breath through my nose. I told them this, but they told me to breath through my mouth. They had me on oxygen for a while, but the mask starting feeling a little heavy on my nose, so they removed it and placed it on my chest right under my mouth so I could still take some in. Initially my pain level was at a 7. So they gave me Dilaudid through my IV. That helped bring the pain down - basically cut it in half for me. I didn't even need the whole dose. I was draining / bleeding and needed to change the dressings several times before they released me. I wasn't released until close to 1 PM for a few reasons. They wanted to monitor the draining and make sure it got under control, they also were waiting for the effects of the Anesthesia to wear off. I kept falling asleep, and when I finally woke and could stay away I was trembling for a while - I believe that reaction was related to my preexisting nerve damage in my spine. They monitored me and waited for the trembling to subside then helped me get to my feet. I was a little shaky at first, but was able to get to and from the bathroom with little assistance.

While this was going on my son went downstairs and filled my prescriptions at the pharmacy. That narcotic law took effect just the other day, so I was unable to get as much pain medication as my surgeon would have preferred. But he got me enough to get me through until I see him again in a few days. I was prescribed pain medication, antibiotics, medication to help me sleep and to treat any nausea I might experience, and saline drops to keep the inside of my nose most so when he flushes my nose out in a few days it will be less painful.

Before I left I spoke with Dr. Ambrus. He was very pleased with the outcome and told me that he was confident I would be happy too. I asked him what I should expect as far as drainage between now and when I see him because I didn't want to panic if there's no reason to. He said the drainage would be on the heavy side for the next 2-4 days. He said I should expect to change my dressing several times a day. He did not pack my nose, or apply a splint. He did this for my comfort. The nurse told me that he cleaned me out real good and she said in a about month I should feel the full benefits of the procedure. I can't wait! she said he did her surgery too and she was very happy with her outcome. I was glad to hear that. When other professionals go to you for this kind of thing, they must really trust and respect you as a surgeon.

They told me to avoid doing anything too strenuous, including bending over. Use an ice pack for pain and swelling as needed - they said a bag of peas or a gel pack just to the side of the nose will help. Make sure you don't apply either directly to the skin - at least put a paper towel between the pack and your skin. Try to eat soft food for the first day or so. And if you have access to a humidifier, use it, because breathing through your mouth will dry out your throat and make you super uncomfortable. If you don't have one, crack a window to let some of the moist air outside in. Don't blow your nose until after your post-op visit with your doctor, and if you have to sneeze open your mouth wide so you don't injure your nose with the pressure from the blast! I'm also to sleep with my head elevated a bit - so I just tossed a couple extra pillows under me. The nurse gave me all the dressings I'd need to get through the next few days, and some crackers I could nibble on before taking my pain medication. And a bottle of Afrin I can use if the drainage is too heavy - it helps to stop the bleeding a bit. But you can only use it for 2 days, and not more than 3 or 4 times each day. I haven't had to use it since I got home.

Before I left I thanked Dr. Ambrus, the Nurses, and the Anesthesiologist for their help - they were really fantastic and took very good care of me so I'm glad I got a chance to thank them. That was my first experience ever with Carney Hospital and I have to say it was excellent!

Since getting home, I've changed my dressing three times. As you can see, all three look about the same for drainage, but the first one was changed about an hour after they changed it in the hospital. The second was two hours later. and the third was 7 hours thereafter! So the draining is starting to slow for sure. I've been drinking a lot of water, and my husband surprised me with my favorite strawberry shake with extra whipped cream from Dairy Queen! I should have day surgery every day! :-D I was able to watch a little TV with him, but I've had to rest a lot. I think only being able to breath through my mouth is making me more tired - try eating, drinking and talking when you can't breath through your nose. It can be exhausting! Also, yelling out for help is virtually impossible! I tried calling to my husband when he was upstairs and the louder I called out, the more pressure I felt in my nose. So we've agreed I will message him on his cell rather than yell for him for now.

As for pain levels, I feel GREAT! Not "high" great either. I'm using the medication as directed, and I am probably benefiting from the leftover meds from my IV at the hospital. So maybe I'll feel awful tomorrow. But for the most part I feel as comfortable as one could hope after having their nose gutted. ;-) This is another reason I suggest you avoid those YouTube videos because everyone was saying things like "I feel like someone hit me over and over in the face with a cast iron pan!" Even at my initial pain level, I didn't feel that bad. So I got myself all worried for no reason.

Anyway, I'll let you guys know how I'm feeling over the next few days, and if I have any other tips or advice I can share with you. I'll tell you how my post-op cleaning goes too. And I'll post more pics for your viewing pleasure of course! :-)

***WARNING: if you don't like the sight of blood, don't click on my pictures!***

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October 22, 2016
Thank you for the great synopsis! My daughter is having this exact surgery next week, and we appreciate all of your detail :).
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October 24, 2016
You're welcome! I hope she heals up quickly and I'm sure she's going to be glad she had it done. I know I am! My breathing is so much better, and I haven't taken one allergy pill since my surgery. I couldn't be more pleased with my results! :-)
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2 days post

Still doing pretty good...

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It's been 2 days since my surgery and for the most part the pain has been pretty minimal. There's still some bloody discharge but I'm not changing the dressing nearly as much as I had to the first day. Today I felt pretty crummy - sinus infection crummy. My ears were popping and everything. Make sure you take the antibiotics they give you! I struggled to keep my eyes open today - I almost fell asleep while I was folding the laundry and a few other inopportune times. I think only being able to breath through my mouth has a lot to do with it. Like I said, it makes talking and eating a little more challenging cause you're kind of fighting between taking bites and taking breaths. So you just have to be mindful and try not to rush through everything like I do. aside from feeling very tired and feeling like I have a sinus infection, there really isn't much else to note. All in all it's not nearly as painful an experience as I thought it would be. On Tuesday I'm going in for a post-op appointment and he's going to clean my nose out - then I can finally blow my nose again! I never thought I'd be excited about the prospect of blowing my nose, but there you have it! :-) I'll let you know what that appointment is like so you'll know what to expect.

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March 20, 2016

Glad to hear you're doing well, I bet you can't wait until Tuesday! 

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March 22, 2016
I am so looking forward to it! I can't wait to blow my nose! Oh the little things in life! LOL
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March 22, 2016

March 20, 2016
I wasn't told not to blow my nose after the procedure (just told about the sneezing) and developed a hematoma in the sept repair that he had to remove in his office, which resulted in 24hr inner-nasal pressure packing that I felt like I was going to DIE throughout. (Highly claustrophobic.) Otherwise I'm very pleased with the turbinate treatment. The septoplasty I'm still not happy with. I'm 5 months post-op and I still feel a lot of pressure when I scrunch up/wrinkle my nose. Keeping it moist does help a bit with that, though not sure why. I do recommend using the saline spray often.
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March 22, 2016
Oh that's awful! I generally don't feel much pain, but when I crinkle my nose it definitely creeps up. So I feel you there for sure. I'm still a little swollen, but not draining much blood anymore - mostly clear drainage with a tinge of blood. I think the laser I have has been helping the healing process along too. I sliced the tip of my thumb off last month and the laser helped me heal up twice as fast as normal with barely a visible scar. So I've been using it at the end of each day on the outside of my nose to try to help the healing process along. What are your options if your septoplasty didn't work? That really stinks! I can't imagine you could have a 2nd go at it - or would want to. Maybe a little more time will tell? But the surgeon told me I should see my results in a month. Keep me posted - I hope they find some way to bring you relief!