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Fat and enzymes ruined my face - San Francisco, CA

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$35,000
So it appears my doc has paid other websites to wipe out his bad reviews. How interesting all his negative reviews are gone from that site. I wonder how he would explain that. And I heard he files lawsuits against anyone who goes against him. Now, why would you do that if you were an ethical, kind , caring Ps? Hmmmm/ the word evil bad mean keeps popping into my head. Thank you Realself for not succumbing to that BS. TM-shame on you. You take all that money and make people think you are a good man. Not!!

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This Dr in SF came recommended by people on a forum and from researching fat grafting. Very few doctors do fat and this one swears by it. He talked me out of implants and said he could fix my problems with fat. There is very little information about him online and he has no website. Beware doctors that don't have a lot online these days. This Dr ruined my face. And don't even try to get in to see him for repair He won't admit to wrong doing and just brushes you off. He comes off caring but only cares about money. Happy to share his name upon request.

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December 13, 2013
Dear Redroxi, I'm sorry that something happened for you to be so unhappy and spend so much money which just goes to show that more money doesn't mean better quality as I paid less than $3000 for a facelift in Costa Rica in 1995 and my experience was lifechanging in a positive way and yes, there was a minor problem with the ear attachment which he fixed the following year at no charge and with some extra services so I would go back but now he charges the same as many doctors in my area and now I am more aware of all the risks involved. Also, in 2010, I had a little silicon put in my lips and I was very unhappy as it was about $800 and you couldn't see any difference in the before and after pictures by Dr. Swanson in Clearwater who I went for a free consult and he talked me into that and I had no idea what I was doing at the time. Over time it seems like there might be a microcosmic difference but certainly not worth the money and I haven't done anything else until I actually see someone's before and after pictures from the doctor i would go to and now I want to do the fat transfer (not necessarily in my lips but around the mouth and eyes. While I understand you are clearly upset, I don't think it is fair to make a blanket statement about this procedure without providing before/after pictures that show anything as I can't tell anything from your pictures and I have seen a lot of amazing before and after pictures on the real self website. I appreciate that you are trying to warn others but please understand our position of having to make decisions from people who make claims (positive or negative) and then don't show clear pictures and more often, don't follow up on their story. Had you seen before and after pictures done by this doctor? I don't understand if a doctor is doing these procedures on a regular basis, why can't they provide a substantial amount of pictures to prove a procedure has beautiful and lasting results and it is very easy for them to mask a person's identity so that is no excuse. If you don't want to publicize your picture, I understand but is there anyway you could get someone to help you share the problems you discuss and still retain your privacy? I'm just not convinced without seeing pictures; however, you have convinced me that I will insist on seeing a surgeon's before/after and even be able to talk to someone as that's how I came to know about Dr. Lev. I will also share my results as I have previously shared many pictures of the issues which I want to resolve.
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December 13, 2013
She has posted pictures & she went to a doctor with a good reputation. She did her homework and had every reason to expect a good result. That's the problem with FT...the results are extremely unpredictible from one person to the next ...even with the same doctor. And no doctor is going to show you the pictures of the results that went bad...or they wouldn't have any patients.
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December 13, 2013
PS...it should be a warning if it is hard to find out any information online as I found out this one doctor I had a consult with was able to get all this bad information about a lawsuit he had taken offline so I would tell everyone to do their research, don't be in a rush, and try to get people to share their experiences positive and negative on sites like this because the doctors have a way of getting it taken down as part of the settlement which was the case with a doctor in Tampa I would share upon request as it was not my experience but told to me by another doctor actually.
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11 month review

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I have had several consults at this point to determine what I can do to fix my fat issues. I will need lip revision/surgery to fix the fat lumps in my lips and some type of filler to fix the irregularities in my face. There are divots, lumps and bumps that have not subsided, although my doctor said they would. He has pretty much dropped off the radar now that things haven't gone well. The fat disappeared and so did my doctor. I really hope people stay away from fat. It is not predictable and any doctor that tells you they can fix your problems with it is nothing more than a liar. It's a money maker for them. Nothing else. After talking to several doctors, they were quite honest about the fact that fat IS NOT the way to go and shouldn't be used to resolve volume issues. Some of the fat is right under my left eye and looks odd when i smile. It pushes up the skin and crinkles. The right side is way too low and I have grooves under both eyes now that the fat is gone and looks very hollow. The fat deposited in my lower face has created jowling that wasn't there before. When I smile, things ok but who walks around smiling all the time? When my face is in neutral position,.it looks lopsided, uneven, and my profile if flat. Whatever fat Ihad that was mine to begin with, is gone from the hylauronidaise this doctor did before injecting fat. The enzyme takes away your natural tissue How is it all the docs I consulted with know this but mine insisted it wouldn't? Anyway, this is a very expensive lesson so take my advice-DON"T EVER DO FAT

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November 4, 2013
Dear Roxie, I really could help you in any way. I don't work for Dr Niamtu and I don't promote his business but in my hearth I do believe he can help you. I pray to God that one day you will find time and go see Dr N and I pray that he will find a solution to fix it and will make you happy. Until that day I wish God will keep you strong and patient. I am thinking of you most of the time but I have no power to help you. Blessings.
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6 months and the nightmare continues

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The fat is pretty much gone-maybe a little in the lower face stayed. The fat in the lumps has reduced a lot but the lumps are still there. My skin texture is terrible. I think the enzyme the doctor used to remove filler prior to surgery ruined my face along with the fat. He won't take any responsibility and wont offer to refund my money or offer to fix anything. Unless I want more fat and want to PAY him. I have several consults set to see what can be done. The texture is pitted and looks like I have wavy lines all over my face. I still can't believe this butcher is allowed to practice and people still continue to go to him. He dumped 200 units of enzyme into my face the morning of surgery saying it wouldn't do anything other than get rid of filler. REALLY DR?? It removed everything-including my own tissue. How can he call himself an expert??? I'm just so sad. I was hoping for improvement. It hasn't come.

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June 12, 2013
Redroxie, when you first wrote 200ccs I thought the extra 0 was a typo. That's way too much. 200ccs of anything sounds way too much. I found something as well you might be interested in - infrared light therapy. It doesn't heat the epidermis like lasers do. These light therapy treatments are the safest you can get as far as dermatology treatments go. If you get a machine and sit under it regularly for 3 months then it could improve something without risking further harm?? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/ "Our results further suggest that IR radiation may result in beneficial effects on skin texture and wrinkles by increasing collagen and elastin in the dermis through stimulation of fibroblasts. Thus, treatment with IR radiation may be an effective and safe non-ablative remodeling method of the skin"
October 26, 2013
How can I thank you enough for writing such a heartbreaking review? I can not accept the idea of doctors refusing to fix their mistakes. Thank you so much for exposing the risk associated with this procedure. I myself stayed with a bump on my lips for years done with Restilane by a doc in LI so I totally emphasize with your pain. It was agonizing for me to try to put lipstick on uneven upper lip. However I do have a very strong  feeling that you will be able to fix and to like your face. I am not a psychic but I do get vibes. I will pray that God will show you soon the best way to get beautiful revision.  Speaking about beautiful, from the pics that you've posted YOU ARE A VERY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN. Some women will pay a lot to look just like you. I wanna give you an e-hug and I can not wait that day when you will write back to me to tell me that you are HAPPY with your result.
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September 3, 2015
I just read your story and it infuriates me, the doctors attitude and how he continues to destroy other faces and you are still in pain and suffering. I hope you sued him, I hope you won, I hope he learned a lesson. I am so mad and sorry for you because I know in my heart, I could not handle this, I would be destroyed inside and out and probably would just curl up and die. I hope you got better with time.
March 1, 2019
It is terrible but YOU chose the Doctor and YOU signed a release prior to him doing the surgery saying that if the result is not exactly as you expect or have discussed, you cannot sue him and will not get a refund. You will feel more at peace if you just enjoy the results that you do have, which look lovely, and don't work yourself into an angry frenzy. Angry people are ugly anyhow.
April 30, 2019
Yes,we all chose the doctors and signed the papers,but it does not mean we cannot warn the others. Fat graft ruins lifes and should be banned. Take care of your good mood and be so kind and do not teach us any lessons.