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V-Beam Major Laser Damage. Portland, OR

UPDATED FROM johnny1671
1 year post

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Dr. Anna Barr seemed rushed during the procedure and seemed like she was always in a hurry when speaking to her but she was nice. I don't believe her when she says she never had any problems with the V-Beam procedure she performed on me. This has been a very painful and dark time in my life thanks to her and I hope I spare someone of this pain by steering them away from her and this procedure.

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July 23, 2015
Wow, sorry about your procedure, I guess the laser liquefies all the collagen and fat, dissolves it, how terrible these things happen to so many people. Glad you mentioned about the fat grafts on face how the body fat is heavier and can fall and distort facial contours, thanks, I had thoughts about considering that procedure but no more and no more contemplating IPL. Thanks.
July 23, 2015
Johnny
I see you have been doing lots of research. I read your blogs regarding FT. So what do you take from chrus82101, dandy27, jika, startrekvoyager,stein fish, have reported success with FT. Do you no longer believe it can be permanent with the proper bld supply and help with healing. I know many have been hurt further by fat transfers.
I believe pulling the skin back is not enough to IPL burns that FT is needed. Just thought you had lots of insight on the matter. I read about the fat weighing different amounts. I. Read about , lumps, migration of fat, cutting off lymph glands supply......
July 23, 2015
I think fat is missing that is part of the texture problem.
July 23, 2015
Jikaii never updated her review. She had 3 fat transfers and they only lasted 2 years. She's back to square one. Not sure about the others. It's the long term damage 4-5 years after fat transfer i worry about. Checkout "parimari"
July 23, 2015
Parimari on real self? Nothing comes up.
July 23, 2015
That's a shame to hear about jikaii. She was so happy a while back. It sounded like the fat transfer fixed a lot of the laser damage for her. No guarantees with any of these cosmetic procedures. Their looking to get into your pockets and make money on peoples insecurities.
July 23, 2015
Exactly if you click on jikaii name and look at her latest post from March you'll see her complaining about her forehead. In that post she states her transfer only lasted 2 years and btw she had a total of 3 of them. Two minor touch ups after the first. Keep in mind transfered fat keeps it's own metabolism if it gains a blood supply. That is why people will lose definition in their face and why some parts of people's faces look fuller than others. Unless the fat is transfered from another part of your face it will never be a perfect graft.
September 18, 2015
Have you found any RS Reviews where fat transfers were used on shrivel skin.
Any with pictures???
I am so trying.
Have not seen pictures of anyone but Jika who had laser and used FT to fix it.
As you know, I am planning on a FT next winter.
just wondering?
September 18, 2015
I know Jikaii had it done and the results were successful. A couple of people on the ipl laser damage site had good luck with it on theit skin. Dandy27 said it helped repair the texture of her skin but she didn't have shriveled skin. I believe her issues were mainly fat loss, scarring, and hyperpigmentation. Two things that for sure would fix your issue is a facelift with fat transfer. I saw a young girl on here who had cheek implants and then had them removed. This left her skin shriveled and looking like a laser damaged victim. She had a mid face lift or cheek lift is another name for it and it completely resolved her issue.
September 21, 2015
Thanks johnny. I am going in to Brandow as soon as I am off the accutane long enough. I want to finish my 6 months of accutane as it helping but not enough. A fat transfer seems to be the only course of action left. Pups sent me a link to Dr. lams and I did like how Dr. Lam did a fat transfer under the eyes for IPL patient too. Wish me luck.
I hope you heal soon. I really think it is possible for you.
September 21, 2015
His Patient Coordinator said Brandow would let me know if I needed a cheek lift too. One mistake one time , for the last year and nine months, I found myself contemplating things I would have never considered. Funny how life throws curve balls at us. Cheek lift sounds better than face lift.
September 21, 2015
Just to clarify, for others possibly reading this and looking for a FT expert post laser damage.... I was not promoting Dr. Lam, and said so. I have read bad things about him, both online and in pm's privately sent to me. Tteg was having such a hard time finding a photo of another patient who was in a similar position, and I knew the photo I sent would give her a decent perspective of what types of corrections to consider. It just happened to be a photo of a patient of Dr. Lam.
September 21, 2015
September 21, 2015
Thanks for clarifying that. I didn't see this until I had already responded above.
September 21, 2015
Oh no Johnny, she was helping me find shrivel skin pics return to normal after FT. As she already said. I am not going to Dr. Lam (too far anyway). Wow did not Lam and Gasgold were such close colleagues. That is interesting. I also did NOT like Lam's patient write up about the IPl victim, suggesting that we will never be satisfied. I am sure we would all be VERY satisfied if some semblance of normality were returned to our skin. I think we all agree that 100% correction is aiming a bit high.
Pups and Johnny thanks for looking out for me.
Sorry about the confusion, Pups. I just know johnny was considering some fat under his eye too.

I really just liked the fat transfer under the eye area near nasolabial fold. She looked normal after the FT. Just, going to Brandow next fall. If I need eye stuff I may consider Wulc, it is a drive for me. There are closer PS that had good reviews, but honestly they were not dealing with complicated IPl cases and I do not trust them. IPL damage is unique because of unevenness with depression, texture in burnt laser areas. I have not met Wulc. I have met Brandow twice and he seemed kind and detail oriented which is what you want in a PS.
Thanks again
September 21, 2015
Thara funny about Lams patient saying that. In fact in one of Lams videos he brings out a patient damaged by ipl and shows her off to the camera. She apparently had volume loss from laser which he claims to have corrected via fat transfer. She definitely looked goof after the transfer that's for sure.
September 21, 2015
Sorry for the spelling errors. Typing from phone.
September 20, 2015
The pictures .. They look good. You should thank your lucky stars you still look the same. In some cases the doctors totally alter one's features..
September 20, 2015
The pictures don't really capture the damage well due to not being taken close up or under harsh lighting but the fat loss is very apparent. I also have orange peel like skin, scarring, hyperpigmentation, hypopigmentation, and this weird wax coled burned texture on the right cheek (mid face) where the majority of the fat loss occurred. I used to have a poreless complexion until like I did ipl. It was honestly the worst mistake of my life. Stay away from lasers and definitely don't let Dr. Anna Bart of OHSU Hospital come near you.
September 20, 2015
Excuse me the last sentence should read "Don't let Dr. Anna Bart of OHSU Hospital near you. Especially if the procedure has anything to do with a laser."
September 20, 2015
One last correction it was "Dr.Anna Barr" for some re as on my phone likes to correct it to "Bart".
September 25, 2015
Johnny, have you tried dermaroller, peels, infrared LED light? These are things that could improve things a lot. 1 x weekly peels, daily light therapy sessions for 15 mins and a decent dermaroller at least 1mm deep with fine pins every 2 weeks (I'd use lidocaine). I reckon if you kept that up for 3 months, you'd experience a notable improvement.
September 25, 2015
I've been dermarolling for a few months now with minimal improvement. I have not tried LED light therapy though. I'll look into it. Thank you for the advice.
September 25, 2015
Do you use antiseptic with numbing cream or are you lightly rolling? If you don't have results, try doing it agressively or use a dermastamp for better control. Key is to find one with fine needles. THe LED units can be bought for 4-500 USD or alternatively, I recently bought an LED mask for about 60 GBP. Feels heavy when I put it on tho.
September 25, 2015
unoq, whats the mask you bought/ or the best LED machine. I have some crappy handheld one
September 25, 2015
Yeah, the handheld ones are a total pain due to the fact you can't treat the whole face at once. If you look on Ebay, search for "LED mask" under health and beauty. You'll see the white phantom of the opera style masks with lights. I got mine for £60 all inclusive - just make sure you sort the list from top to bottom. Can't speak for results but it looks like a legit unit and well made, albeit heavy. I've only just received it. If you have more to spend, check out the Britebox. I have the Revive with red and infrared leds, which I've used to try and stimulate hair regrowth (I lost a lot due to stress). I got the mask because I wanted to try the green light for pigmentation/redness.
October 1, 2015
I am so sorry about this damage, I hope your face heals or that facial fat transfer provides a solution for you. Hugs.
UPDATED FROM johnny1671
1 year post

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johnny1671
Okay the pic with the yellow lighting showing my hair is me about a month after the laser damage as you look at my right cheek (you the viewers left) you'll see how I haven't lost any fat in it quite yet and it looks the same as it did right before the IPL. This very day btw is when the texture issues began. If you zoom in under the yellow lighting you'll notice rough skin and weird lines. To this day the left side of my face has lost very little fat. My cheeks were never indented prior to the ipl and you can see that both cheeks are now. In addition the left side suffered hypopigmentation, hyperpigmentation, and atrophic scarring along the nasolabial lines. Now if you look at the second pic with me in a shower cap partially under white lighting you can see both cheeks indented now, the hyperpigmentation below my right eye, atrophic scarring with hyperpigmentation, along my nasolabial line, the wrinkly poor texture can't be captured with that camera and lighting but it's there on the right and now again I you compare left lower cheek to right you should be able to see the asymmetry.

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September 25, 2015
Thank you for sharing, it will give those of us that may think of having this procedure more reason to do plenty of research.
UPDATED FROM johnny1671
1 year post

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Just a quick update as I've been getting messages saying my skin looks good. Yes in the photos I took with the camera set on beauty mode it looks perfectly clear. I will update with another pic today from 3 months ago shoeing the hyperpigmentation atrophic scars on the left nasolabial area and fat loss underneath right nostril going past the nasolabial area to above the mouth as well as hopefully now you'll better be able to see the asymmetry.

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September 28, 2015
I have had v beam several times and it made my skin look better than a facelift did. I'm surprised you had bad results. I'm getting it again next week. Sorry you weren't happy. Red and swollen yes but also great results for me.
September 29, 2015
Yeah I wish that were the case for me but I had 3 large blisters and was red for 3 months then experienced what many on her3 have described fat loss, lines, indentwtions, hyperpigmentation, hypopigmentation, atrophic scarring, waxy white skin, etc.. most of the damage is confined to the right side of my face. Having V-Beam done was the worst mistake of my life. I'd give anything to go back in time and stop myself from going through with it.
September 29, 2015
Sorry for the spelling errors typing from phone.
October 18, 2017
hi, how is your skin now please and just to confirm, was it IPL or vbeam that you had? you mention both. V beam us the one that gives the dark bruising. thanks