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Upper & Lower Lid Blepharoplasty W/ Chemical Peel - Pismo Beach, CA

UPDATED FROM Lindsay D.
2 years post

Final Result Photos 2 years Post Op - HORRIBLE! (These are actually my "Before" Pics for a 2nd Surgery)

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Lindsay D.
$4,900
I've resolved to pay another $3,000 (almost) to remove the wrinkles that the first bleph surgery left me with (I had no wrinkles before the surgery, but the loose skin wrinkled under my eyes causing me to look 10 years older than I did before I had the original surgery. See for yourself in these photos taken 9-4-15 as my "before" photos for a 2nd surgery, and my final result photos for this review's surgery.

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Paul T. Stallman, MD

Paul T. Stallman, MD

Oculoplastic Surgeon, Board Certified in Ophthalmology

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September 5, 2015
Hoping that your second surgery is more successfull, when are you having it done ?
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September 6, 2015
I just went through the same thing. My first surgery in 2013 left me with horrible wrinkles and the bags were still visible. I recently had my second lower bleph with fat transfer and laser resurfacing and the results have been much, much better. Overall I am very pleased. I still have some swelling under one eye, but I'm willing to give it a little more time. I will look forward to reading your new review. Good luck and I will be thinking about you!!
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September 6, 2015
Hi, good luck with your new lower bleph, I am sending great vibes your way!
but I do want to give a few warnings from my experience, just to be sure you are aware of them. I have become / am trying to become, an expert on all things to do with eyelids since having a botched lower blepharoplasty with a skin pinch, as well as a botched upper bleph. Yes, by the same board certified oculoplastic surgeon and done at the same time. I doubt My PS would have offered any discount for revisions ( I wouldn't have let him touch me anyway) but as it is, he won't even admit to there being any complication at all. ( I think they must teach this in medical school).
Anyhow, what I want you to know firstly is that your upper lids look great, if your former surgeon did that, then he at least did you right on the upper lids. Believe me, the surgury should only excise the least amount of skin needed to get it off your eyelashes because that upper lid fullness (skin) is what keeps you looking like yourself, and keeps ypu looking soft and feminine. My PS excised every last piece of skin in my upper lids and now I look like a different person, and it I feel like my eyelids look like golf balls, awful. All the good results almost look like nothing was done and that is very good. Please read Dr. Michael Law on real self ( he has lots of short videos as well) where he explains why you want conservative skin excision in the upper lids. He should know, because he fixes overly aggressive surgeries like mine.
Secondly, I hope you have done your homework on lower blephoroplasty surgery as well because from my research, removing more skin from the lower lid is NOT how to remove wrinkles! I dont know what causes the wrinkles, but I have them too, since my lower bleph and skin pinch. My smile looks a lot like yours, scary and I sadly try not to smile too big anymore as well, which is so depressing..
I had a second opinion at around 2 mos post op and was told that There was scarring of my 3 lower lid layers, tethering them together so they could no longer move independently, which is in turn, pulling my lower lids down as it heals (contracts). Other complications from my lower bleph ( transconjuunctival) and skin pinch ( front under eyelash incision) are rounded lateral canthas ( outside corner of the eyes) , rounded eyess from being pulled down, ectropian, ( rounding the bottom of eyelid outward)
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Eive were caused by the skin pinch! Please read all of the possible complications of this procedure. If you search the questions section, many doctors answer it. " Lower lid malposition" or "retraction" " or "hound dog eyes" etc is the number one problem, and you will be hating life it it happens.
I am also following you to see if you will do any kind of legal suit against your original surgeon, please PM me if you have any helpful onfo on that! Like you, I was never told anout all the possible complications and therefore fell that I did not give my informed consent at all. It was presented to me as the easiest thing in the world, that no one would even know had been done in 2 weeks, and my PS asked me zero questions and told me nothing about the procedure. It really is unbelievable that they get away with this.
Agian, please know that I wish ypu all the best, but it seems there are a lot of surgeons that are kind, and try to help, but who still do not understand enlugh of eyelid anatomy to actually help. Dr. Steinsapir is a Surgeon that is in Beverly Hills, so is expensive, but he seems to know much more than other doxtors who suggest the same procedure no matter what the problem.
S
September 6, 2015
I forgot to tell you that my second opinion was with Occuloplastic Consultants in West Palm Beach Florida (eyeliddocs.com) two surgeons who specialize in eyelids and fixing complications from cosmetic surgery.
S
September 30, 2015
When is your second surgery? I am so sorry this happened to you but I really appreciate you sharing... it is helping me make an educated decision on what to do. I could very well see my skin doing the same thing as yours after the fat removal.
UPDATED FROM Lindsay D.
2 years post

Second Eyelid Surgery (first was unsatisfactory/left me worse with wrinkles)

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Lindsay D.
The site wont let me put two reviews for the same procedure. I guess they don't believe you can have the same procedure twice?? I am going to try though because it is a new doctor with all new experiences. I am going to try to rename this procedure to undereye bag surgery or something?? Bare with me...dang, I already spent an hour writing out the new review too!!

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September 6, 2015
Thanks for sharing this with all of us. I am hoping it works out for you and you can find someone who can help improve your eyes.
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December 29, 2015
Thanks for sharing. So sorry that you had to go through all that! I am very interested to see how the second surgery went. I had a similar experience with my surgery. I was thrilled with the results until the swelling completely went away at about a 1 to 1 1/2 years. Then I noticed loose skin and a lot of wrinkling where the bags once were. I returned for my follow up and the doctor said he could get rid of that extra skin by "tacking" it up in an in office procedure. I can't spend weeks recovering again so I decided to try some fillers. They helped a little bit but were short lived. I might try a chemical peel in the future to see if that would help. Regardless, I think I do look better than before so for now I'll just live with it. Please post pictures when you can. Thanks and good luck!
UPDATED FROM Lindsay D.
1 year post

NOT ALL OCULPLASTIC SURGEONS ARE QUALIFIED FOR BLEPHAROPLASTY

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Lindsay D.
Here is a quote from LifeIsSweet, a fellow Real Selfer who commented on my review and I believe this information is very helpful for anyone looking into this procedure: "I agree that some Oculoplastic surgeons are not the best choice for cosmetic eye surgery - especially lower blepharoplasties. I say some because I certainly can't speak for all. One doctor I'm thinking of focuses almost exclusively on fixing lids that droop enough so as to block vision. His job was not so much to improve the aesthetics of the eyes, but to make them optimally functional again."

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November 4, 2014
Your eyes looked good at 5 months, so I'm not sure the bleph is the cause of this? What did the second surgeon say? Thanks!
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November 6, 2014
Yes, I was happy at 5 mos. as well, however, the swelling had not gone down completely. Only the severe swelling. As for the physicians I saw 2 for opinions about my procedural outcome and both felt the wrinkling was a result of the bleph. They've indicated that once the swelling completely dissipated the loose skin left behind from the "bags"/fat is what is wrinkling. I've been told from the beginning that swelling does not go down completely until somewhere between 6 mos. and 1 year, but after 6 mos. any remaining swelling is so minimal it is almost undetectable. I am wondering why you would not think that the bleph caused this? Please explain.
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November 6, 2014
You looked so good pretty far out (6 months?) so I thought maybe was something else? Kinda scary as I am scheduled for upper and lower (with FL, I am almost 60) and wasn't aware of this potential problem. Altho I will have skin removal, I don't think you did? I haven't had the bleph yet, but have had botox and it made a huge difference, I posted some pics if you want to look at my profile. Sorry you have to deal with this...
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March 3, 2015
So sorry about your results :( I have been following your review for a while, and was considering flying to Dr. Stallman for a consult until I read your updates. Well, he's off my list now. I did message you some top notch doctors who seem to excel in corrective surgery -- maybe you could see if one of them might work for you? Dr. Zoumalan and Dr. Wulc especially appear to be very promising options, so you may want to check out their reviews. I have also heard of Dr. Guy Massry but havent researched him yet. Wishing you all the best. Don't lose heart - there's hope out there.
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March 3, 2015
edited to add: i just researched dr guy massry -- he has some negative reviews, so i would steer clear of him. do see if the other doctors might be of some help to you.