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Upper & Lower Lid Blepharoplasty W/ Chemical Peel - Pismo Beach, CA

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Lindsay D.
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I have been reading the many success stories for eyelid surgery on this site, and the few complications, and I am going to go forward with surgery to remove the bags under my eyes.

I am 38 yrs. old, and, during my consultation on Wednesday, April 25, 2013, my oculoplastic surgeon, Dr. Paul Stallman, suggested transconjuctival lower lid blepharoplasty along with a chemical peel to aid with what minimally loose skin remains that may wrinkle. I am extremely relieved that I was a candidate for this rather than transcutanious (through the outside, under the lash line) as I have fears about the disfigurement of my face due to a cosmetic procedure. However, I have had these "bags" all my life and they're slowly getting worse over time. I hate them, but I think to myself that they don't look too bad yet, and with makeup I can cover most of it just not that horrible "shadow effect" that makes them look bigger. I keep thinking that if something "went wrong", not out of lack of respect for my surgeon whom I feel very comfortable having do this surgery, I would probably go mad.

After reading so many of your experiences on here, I strongly believe that if one has the following "5 ingredients": a good solid surgeon, none of the risks that could complicate recovery (i.e. hypo/hyper thyroid, Graves disease, etc.), realistic ideas about the length of recovery, knowledge of what is normal during recovery, and proper pre and post op care one would most likely come through this particular version of blepharoplasty just fine. I want to thank Jill81 for her story, because it was hers that helped comfort me in my decision to go ahead with surgery. I have decided to share my journey and results with you, and, hopefully, be just as successful.

As Jill81 blogged, there aren't very many posts on here about lower eyelid surgery as most of you have had uppers done too. So, hopefully, my story will help those of you who plan to have lower blepharoplasty with a chemical peel in your decision. Please God let this be a positive experience for me, and to all of you wish me good healing!

PS: If anyone has had the same surgery I'm planning to have please message me with your experience, if you felt you too had the "5 ingredients" above to a successful surgery, so I can be further advised as to what to expect potentially. Thanks.

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April 30, 2013
Hey Lindsay, thank you for posting your experience. I look forwarded to following your updated. I plan to have my lowers done later in the year. Make sure you post photos [RS bleep]
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May 1, 2013
I have changed my mind after all the research and positive results others have had and I'm going in for both upper and lower. One doctor noted that there was more risk to the lowers than the uppers (natural risk), and I can offer you some advice from him: go into the mirror and pull your lower lid down slightly and let go to see if it snaps right back into place, as well as checking to make sure your lower lid is right in line with the bottom of your pupil (actually it's the iris - the colored part). If either of these two things doesn't match up you may want to mention that to your surgeon as well as let your regular physician know you are planning blepharoplasty. Otherwise, I believe things should come out great for you as well! Good luck and hope to see your story too! When are you planning to have it done?
May 1, 2013
Hi LindsayD74. You must be so excited! I do wish you wonderful results. Due to a unsuccessful Restylane filling under my eyes, I'm waiting for hopefully eventual improvement or else I'm researching the possibility of a lower bleph. Personally, I see your upper lids as youthful. If you do have your uppers done as well, keep the fat (or at the very least, only slightly reposition the fat). Young eyes have fat cells and slim eyelids. And I see this in you. That is, your uppers look young! Just saying my opinion. For once fat is touched in the upper lids, it's gone forever. At 47, I still find my uppers as youthful. Unfortunately, filler ruined my lowers. Whatever you do, I'll be excited to see your results after a few months. Good luck!
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May 6, 2013
Thank you for your honesty Lydia. I appreciate it, as that's what I'm here for. I am so sorry to hear that you were unhappy with an unsuccessful Restylane fill. Do you have an ocuplastic surgeon in your area? I tend to lean toward a surgeon who specializes in eye surgery to begin with, as mine did, who then furthers their education with cosmetic facial surgery for this particular surgery. The eyes are very important, and the first thing anyone "see's" when they "look" at you (see, very important). Also, I understand what you are saying about my uppers. I would agree, however, up close (as only one gets to one's self, ha ha), when I open/close my eyes, there are several folds of extra skin that roll under, and when I put my upper lid eyeliner on it gets lost in for a few centimeters. I fear reasonably that they will only get worse over time. I'd like to do it now all at once. This does not show so much in the photos, only the bulge. Initially, I wasn't going in for uppers. It was only after many days of research and self inspection that I decided to go ahead with uppers as described above. I figure I'm going down once, recovering once (hopefully), and might as well cover the whole problem. Thanks for your concern and I will definitely keep you all posted. I'm so excited now I can't hardly wait. I've been going through the motions of each day just to go to bed and get it over so I am closer to surgery. I would love to recover within 2 weeks, but I'm staying realistic and just excited to finally be rid of the bags/bulges.
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May 6, 2013
Thanks for that info Lindsay. Only a few more days now, I'm excited for you! Can't wait to watch your progress, it will be awesome! I too think your uppers look good, but also see how having them done will really add some WOW
May 1, 2013
Lindsay, I too read a lot of reviews on this site before going into this surgery. I did my homework and made sure my surgeon did plenty of this particular surgery, which he did over a 1000 faces. I am 5 weeks post lower bleph and I can't be happier. I am healthy, with no medical problems, never a smoker, and active. I think that does make a big difference. I had subcilliary/transcutaneous surgery, but had no pain at all. The advise I would give you is take the arnica and bromaline as directed, eat fresh pineapple, sleep upright for at least 4 nights, get good ice packs and keep a cooler next to you to keep changing them and try not to stare in the mirror every 5 minutes the first week.. The bruising and swelling will give you doubts, but by the 4th or 5th day you will start seeing difference. This was the scariest but best decision I made for myself. The bags are gone and I have my confidence back. This is a subtle difference that unless I tell someone, they would not necessarily know. Good luck to you, and if you have any questions, be feel to ask.
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May 1, 2013
Thank you so much KRFNP! I will definitely follow those instructions. When I was reading up on arnica and bromalain I found out that bromain was from pineapple so that makes sense to eat pineapple, although I hadn;t thought of that myself. The ice cooler is also a great idea! I am going into this at the same pace - scared to death but really really need it, want it. Thanks so so much, and I am so happy for you!
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September 13, 2017
Lower bleph takes out the fat pads or moves them around but the skin is left like an empty balloon. You have to get a series of peels lash to lash. Mary at Advanced Skin Care in SLO is the only one who does this procedure. It's the best!! Have it done a few times a year or so and you will be tightened up. No pain at all just like a day at the spa. Your upper bleph looks great. In the before your right eye looked more droopy and after it's even.
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8 days pre

* UPDATE: As noted in the title now, and after...

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* UPDATE: As noted in the title now, and after thorough research and testimonials, I have decided to go ahead and get both upper and lower blepharoplasty. My fears have faded to excitement and my surgery has been moved forward one week to 5/9/13. I have also posted two before pictures. Wish me luck.

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May 1, 2013
Good for you:) I am getting my lowers done may 31. I am the same age as you. I will do my uppers next year. Did your Dr say how many days it would take you to heal? Thank you
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May 6, 2013
Congratulations Amanda! It's a very scary and exciting decision. I truly believe that if you have the 5 ingredients I mention above you will have a successful surgery/recovery, and the younger you are the faster you heal. Unfortunately, eye bags generally occur with age, and many of us don't need it until we are much older; however, it is still supposed to be a fairly safe surgery. As far as recovery time, it varies from patient to patient, but generally it goes like this: you feel ok the day of surgery, right after, then days 2-3 are the worst for pain and you see the bulk of bruising/swelling. It takes about 10 days for bruising to fade away going from purple to yellow to gone. The swelling gets worse over the first 2-3 days I hear and by day 4 it begins to subside significantly over 2 weeks with only minimal swelling residing for up to 2-6 months, but I don't think it's noticeable, at least to others, after about 1 month. I am updating my post above right now with pre-op and post up instructions that I received on Friday. Feel free to read them as they are very very important. I think if you follow the pre-post op care instructions to the T, you will recover as fast as your body will allow as long as you are in good health. Good luck and keep me posted! This is going to be so exciting! Good luck.
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May 1, 2013
I had an upper/lower bleph with chemical peel under my eyes on 13 March 2013. I have posted about my recovery and have posted pictures too. Please check out my post if you haven't already seen it. I chronicled my experience with daily posts for the first few weeks. Also, I am originally from nearby your area. I grew up in SLO. Good luck with your surgery and feel free to send me a private message if you have any questions.
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May 6, 2013
I will go take a look now. I am curious to see how your's turned out as you didn't mention that. That's pretty cool that you are familiar with this town. It's pretty great other than a little boring! Love the weather. I've been here most of my life (since I was 8 yrs.). Heading over to your profile now...
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May 6, 2013
I just had a look at your photo's and read your posts, and I think your eyes turned out really great. Your recovery looked a little scary though. I am glad you directed me to your profile because I got a chance to see how your recovery went, which was not super easy like some, but not problematic or unsatisfactory either, and your results are really very good. I also read the web page you shared the link to and that was full of very good, realistic information about the true length of recovery (which said up to 12 mos. for some, wow!). So it has been less than 2 mos. for you and your eyes really do look so much better, and with more time/healing they are going to be so great. Thanks so much and feel free to message me as well. Good luck!
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May 2, 2013
You are making a sound choice. I did both uppers and lowers (transcutanious) two weeks ago and the results are amazing. If you have a PS you trust - put your faith in him and ........ get ready to look GREAT!
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May 6, 2013
Thank you! I have done a great deal of research and preparation. I am being as proactive as I possibly can. So happy to hear you had an amazing result. That is awesome! Congrats.
May 2, 2013
Like Lindsay so eloquently put it, the thought of something going wrong is extremely frightening. While many posts & pics have been positive, the ones that haven't (while in the minority) sound scary and problematic and hard to fix. For you ladies who have undergone the procedure, how did you overcome this fear in advance of your surgeries? Any advice? Thanks!
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May 3, 2013
Research your PS above and beyond. Ask loads of questions. Ask worst case scenario questions. Take in loads of photos. Ask your PS to explain everything, including what to expect in your recovery time. Once you have made your decision, pay the invoice, sit back and stay off the internet. I know that sounds a bit trite and simple - but in my opinion, that is really the long and the short of it.
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May 6, 2013
September21, Although I haven't undergone my surgery yet (3 more days), most of my fears have resolved. Through weeks of research and preparation, in addition to feeling secure about my surgeon who is an oculoplastic surgeon who initially specialized in the eyes, and went on to study cosmetic facial surgery. I was terrified at first, but now I'm super excited. So to answer your question, my fears dissipated as I educated myself and as I realized I was a great candidate for this surgery. I think an experienced surgeon specializing in the eyes, and being a good candidate for this surgery are the two most important factors to consider for blephoraplasty, and finally, take extra good aftercare.
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May 6, 2013
I agree. I would add to make sure your doctor is of the conservative opinion. Too much fat/skin removal is very hard to repair from my understanding. As far as sitting back, staying off the internet, I will take that advice for myself.
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5/3/13 - I went to my pre-op appointment and got...

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5/3/13 - I went to my pre-op appointment and got some great instructions. I will list them below, but I wanted to share one of the biggest reasons I've decided to go forward with blephoraplasty and that is my age. I do not mean to sound vain, and I'd hate to offend anybody reading this so please understand that this is my personal experience. I have decided to share it with all of you for two reasons: to gain knowledge and courage to have the surgery, and to give the same back to anyone considering having surgery.

As I mention above, I am 38 yrs. old, and I am rather self conscious at a fairly young age due specifically to under eye bags. As much as I don't like this about myself, I am not growing older gracefully or wearing each new wrinkle as a badge of honor, although, I wish I could. I will be 40 yrs. old in 1 1/2 yrs., which means that 50 yrs. old will just be 10 yrs. away. For me, now is the time to make some cosmetic revisions so that I can enjoy self confidence while I am relatively young. I don't want to feel like I wasted my youth feeling self conscious and looking much older than I actually am because that is what eye bags do to one's appearance and they only get worse over time with age. Therefore, I've decided to have surgery now to feel attractive now, and in 12 yrs. I can look into the mirror and think wow not bad for 50 yrs. old.

PRE-OP TIPS:

1. DO NOT take any blood thinning medications for 2 weeks prior to surgery or you can cause excessive bleeding behind the eyes, and may cause blindness. The doctor gave me a complete list of medications to avoid, which includes Aspirin, Ibuprofin/Advil, Pepto Bismol, some cold/flu medications, and many others including some homeopathic medications suck as Fish Oil, St. John's Wort, Vitamin E, Gingko, Ginseng, Garlic, and lots of others. Make sure you get this list as I have only listed some of them.

2. BE PREPARED - Pick up all necessary medications and items you need for post-op care prior to surgery. You will get prescriptions that must be filled and your pharmacist may need to special order some. There are a few other things, including over the counter (OTC) medications you should have all ready for you when you get out of surgery. You should get a list of these items at your pre-op appointment, but I will list what I was instructed to have:

POST-OP - MEDICATIONS & ITEMS

1. Arnica 30 mg tablets OTC - to swallow 4 pills 4x a day for 7 days = 112 pills. They come in a bottle of 250 for $10.99 at any health food store.
2. Bromalain 500 mg tablets OTC - to swallow 2 pills 4x a day = 56 pills (they come in a bottle of 60 for $19.99. NOTE: Do not buy the topical creme. I was instructed to start taking both the Arnica and Bromalain on the morning of surgery. NOTE: I was told that I would not benefit by eating Pineapple as I could not eat enough to attain a beneficial amount of the derivative (Bromalain).
3. Extra strength Tylenol OTC - for pain
4. Vicodin prescription - for pain
5. Bacitracin ointment prescription - for incision area to avoid infection.
6. Eye drops prescription - I cannot remember the name or for what purpose they are.
7. Eye drops OTC (yes, you need 2 types of eye drops) - Systane, or any other artificial tears for moisture to relieve dryness due to lack of natural tear development. Comes in a squeeze bottle for $8.99.
8. Halcyon prescription - a calming sedative during the procedure. I will be awake with only a local anesthetic.
9. Phenegren prescription - for nausea from local anasthetic
10. Frozen peas - I bought 5 large bags on sale $0.99. Frozen peas are great because they fall all around your eyes little creases and curves naturally and easily unlike big lumpy ice cubes. I was advised to "ice" for 45 min. on, 15 mins. only off, of every hour for 2 days. I was told I will be doing myself a huge favor by doing this for swelling/bruising/healing.
11. Plastic lunch baggies (2) - to put the peas in and place over each eye.
12. 4x4" gauze pads - put between peas and skin for comfort and protection.
13. Wedge pillow, lounge pillow, or at least 2-3 pillows of normal size to elevate your head above your waist. Nothing drastic, and I was told I do not have to sleep sitting up, only elevated by an additional pillow or 2. I was advised to do this for 4 days.

POST-OP - THINGS TO BE AWARE OF, OR AVOID

1. No bending over at waist, or straining causing blood to rush to head for 3-4 days.
2. Eye lids may feel stiff, tight, itchy, and you may feel the lids don't close all the way initially due to swelling and should resolve after stitches are removed.
3. Mild seepage of blood-tinged fluid may occur for 1-2 days and to add gentle to firm pressure to stop. If that doesn't stop it, or its more than mild occurrences call the doctor immediately.
4. Blurry or double vision for several hours after surgery is normal.

The doctor advised that the worst case scenario situations generally happen within hours after surgery, not days.

I hope that helps anyone preparing for this surgery. I know it soothes me to be prepared. Only 3 more days til surgery! Wish me good healing, and a wonderful result!

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May 6, 2013
Thanks Mama Chichi and LindsayD74 for the advice! :-) Very sound advice and very comforting. I think staying off the internet is a helpful hint - the bad outcomes can be very heart-wrenching. Lindsay the Pre-op list is excellent...I had also heard to have under 1,000 mg of sodium helps too in order to reduce swelling. I read an article that said potassium-rich foods like avocado, bananas, cantaloupe, coconut water, and oranges help balance once's sodium levels and reduce bloat.so perhaps a smoothie with all those ingredients (less the avocado) + protein powder might be beneficial daily to aid in healing. I also read protein should be a part of every meal (perferably lean meat) in order to speed up healing. Hope this helps!
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May 6, 2013
Yes, I've heard that too about the sodium, but my doc didn't warn me away from it; however, I will keep the salt at a minimum. Thanks for the list of foods for a smoothie. That's some great advice! I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to throw a little pineapple in there too, even though the doc said you can't eat enough to be beneficial, it would taste good, and it shouldn't hurt, right? I have protein powder in vanilla and chocolate so I'm thinking Choc. & Banana or Vanilla, Coconut & Banana with some Vanilla Soy Milk. Yum! Great advice. I'm heading out to the store now, so that was just in time!
May 6, 2013
Good luck lyndsay. Hope all goes well u are well prepared. This will change urn life, it renewed me again. I will say, it won't hurt to try the pineapple. I took the bromaline and arnica as directed, but each time I ate pineapple I always felt my swelling went down. I still eat it daily. No matter how swollen and bruised u get, remember it WILL be short term. This will be hard, you will see, right after surgery to think this way, just keep it in ur mind and this will help to stay positive. We r all thinking of you!
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May 9, 2013
Thanks so much for your positive words. They have really helped me with the few fears that keep creeping up on me...I did buy a pineapple and I will eat it. If it helped you, it won't hurt right? I'm going to listen to my audio books and not look in the mirror too much. My 11 yr. old daughter will be tending to me. I spent the afternoon cooking lean meats and preparing meals for the first 3 days to help her with my down time. I want her to be comfortable too, since her mom is going to be quite creepy looking for awhile. I will remember that swelling and bruising always go away. Thank you so much. I'll post again after surgery in the morning.
July 25, 2015
peas are not a good idea around the sensitive eye area. My doctor recommended 4 by 4 gauze pad soaked in 12 oz distilled water with 1 teaspoon white distilled vingear. helps prevent infection. store container in refrig. use as needed