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Revision Rhinoplasty - Not happy with results
UPDATED FROM sallyannelewis
1 year post
Disappointed in results and in Dr. D ????
sallyannelewisMay 9, 2017
$13,300
It's now officially over a year since my revision with Dr. Denenberg, and I'm beyond disappointed. Week after next, I'll be at 13 months post op and the goals we set out to accomplish are so far off from the results that I've come to see.
I emailed Dr. D back in September with all my concerns and at that time was advised that there was "nothing to do, but wait." Last Friday, I followed up with Dr. D and sent him photos I had taken that very morning, and reiterated the concerns I have over the length, projection, and bulbousness of the results. It's only been a few days, but I have yet to hear back from him and am starting to feel that I'm on my own in this. I'm trying to be patient, as patient as I have been all along with "waiting" and now I can't get as much as a response to my email.
I'm very disappointed in the results, even more so in Dr. D for misleading me into believing he could truly help with my revision. At this point, I've begun losing my trust in him and I want others to be aware of they're getting into by working with this physician for any procedure. I feel that there is zero integrity and lack of concern over the poor results. Who would've thought you shell out money for nothing in return, especially when it comes to your doctor. Very disappointed and feeling like I was taken advantage of.
I emailed Dr. D back in September with all my concerns and at that time was advised that there was "nothing to do, but wait." Last Friday, I followed up with Dr. D and sent him photos I had taken that very morning, and reiterated the concerns I have over the length, projection, and bulbousness of the results. It's only been a few days, but I have yet to hear back from him and am starting to feel that I'm on my own in this. I'm trying to be patient, as patient as I have been all along with "waiting" and now I can't get as much as a response to my email.
I'm very disappointed in the results, even more so in Dr. D for misleading me into believing he could truly help with my revision. At this point, I've begun losing my trust in him and I want others to be aware of they're getting into by working with this physician for any procedure. I feel that there is zero integrity and lack of concern over the poor results. Who would've thought you shell out money for nothing in return, especially when it comes to your doctor. Very disappointed and feeling like I was taken advantage of.
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August 9, 2017
I'm not sure how recent your last two pics are, but I actually kind of like your results. Your nose looks super natural, not surgical. The columella looks so good, I'm jealous of it. I
August 9, 2017
I also think it looks really nice from the front and 3/4 view. I'm not sure about this, but I have a feeling that some noses simply can't be made much smaller without making it to where the skin can't fit or be draped properly over the "smaller" nose. I think Dr. D did a good job of shaping your nose. There aren't any obvious assymetries or anything that looks deformed. Frankly, I think the "natural" look is best, and I feel like Dr. D. has a good feel for what looks natural on various different face shapes. I want you to know, I'm not trying to make light of your dissapointment. Believe me, I get it. I just wanted to let you know there's someone out here who thinks your result looks pretty, and my first impression would be, "wow, she's pretty"! I hope you are feeling better about your result.
November 26, 2017
Oh crap not him. Imo his results aren't good at all. I've seen many. Sorry this happened to you.
November 26, 2017
From these photos your nose looks nice. Maybe if he had shortened your nose more then this would lead to more unhappiness. I understand the unevenness of the nostrils but it's not very much noticeable. I was wondering if you could post more frontal pics so we would be able to evaluate things better.
November 27, 2017
Hi fzb123, I figure if we wanted our nose to be "natural" then we'd leave it just as it is before the surgery. When we go through so much expense, trauma, time and emotional upheaval it's because we expect something to change drastically for the better.
I too had a revision with this doctor. It was my 4th!!! And after we kept an extensive email exchange with my indications of WHAT I wanted and questions, etc. by approving everything, especially my main desire: straight and SHORTER!!! I thought he understood my unequivocal wishes, so I flew to Omaha, NE straight to consultation for the following day surgery. At that critical moment he tells me "We don't have to shorten it - it'll look shorter, I'll do this and that....." Well, not only didn't look shorter but it had a number of undesirable shapes, including new tiny cartilage(?) bumps on the tip of my nose. He said "I wish you lived here so I could see what could be done" BUT no way to go through all of that trauma, flying to that corner of the world... I have to live with it minus the small fortune that cost.
sallyannelewis and I commented on her case and she hesitated to go back to the same surgeon, I don't know why she decided to go with him. On the other hand...many surgeons are unpredictable and we should keep THIS in mind. :(
I too had a revision with this doctor. It was my 4th!!! And after we kept an extensive email exchange with my indications of WHAT I wanted and questions, etc. by approving everything, especially my main desire: straight and SHORTER!!! I thought he understood my unequivocal wishes, so I flew to Omaha, NE straight to consultation for the following day surgery. At that critical moment he tells me "We don't have to shorten it - it'll look shorter, I'll do this and that....." Well, not only didn't look shorter but it had a number of undesirable shapes, including new tiny cartilage(?) bumps on the tip of my nose. He said "I wish you lived here so I could see what could be done" BUT no way to go through all of that trauma, flying to that corner of the world... I have to live with it minus the small fortune that cost.
sallyannelewis and I commented on her case and she hesitated to go back to the same surgeon, I don't know why she decided to go with him. On the other hand...many surgeons are unpredictable and we should keep THIS in mind. :(
November 27, 2017
I didn’t want a major change to the appearance of my nose on my primary. I did want a major change in the form of septoplasty. I had pretty major deviation on both sides. I didn’t really want to change my nose for the most part and communicated this heavily with my surgeon. I did agree to “a simple rasping of a small dorsal hump.” That was all that was supposed to change cosmetically. I’ve met countless others just like me. They either wanted the same thing I did or they wanted a minor change to another area. I’ve also met numerous people as you’ve described wanting a major change. Not all of start with the same nose and have the same aesthetic desires.
I looked at your profile and I see a positive review for Denenberg with photos. What happened?
I’m no longer considering Denenberg, because he has zero experience with perforation closures and subsequent saddling.
I looked at your profile and I see a positive review for Denenberg with photos. What happened?
I’m no longer considering Denenberg, because he has zero experience with perforation closures and subsequent saddling.
UPDATED FROM sallyannelewis
7 months post
Updated photos .... I think these express more than my comments...
sallyannelewisNovember 17, 2016
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November 17, 2016
The tip is horrendous.... I am super disappointed and if I could go back and choose a different doctor, I would. These 18 months are going to drag so slowly.
November 17, 2016
I know this doesn't help at the moment , but for your revision check out bahman Guyuron in Ohio , he actually pioneerd a technique for shortening a long nose . I know how you feel a famous Florida dr . gave me a terrible revision pollybeak crooked collapsed . Guyuron. Made it look normal again .
November 17, 2016
I do not recommend looking into revision surgeons just yet. One woman on here had 3 surgeries in 3 years and surgeons began turning her down because she had too many surgeries in too short of a time. One doctor told her to wait at least 3 years for her nose to fully heal before touching it again.
This is her review: https://www.realself.com/review/seattle-wa-rhinoplasty-surgery-booked-for-anxious#
Some quotes from her:
"I consulted with Dr Grigoryants online. Unfortunately he has turned me down and said he would not do my revision as he feels I've had too many surgeries in such a short amount of time. He highly suggests not touching it for 3 years to allow it to fully heal."
"For those who have had a rhinoplasty and there are small things you don't like.. Read my review top to bottom! I wish I didn't through with the next two rhinoplastys from the same surgeon. I should have just been content with the outcome of my nose instead of being a perfectionist. The more times you go in there and mess with it, the more chance you have of damaging it beyond repair."
This is her review: https://www.realself.com/review/seattle-wa-rhinoplasty-surgery-booked-for-anxious#
Some quotes from her:
"I consulted with Dr Grigoryants online. Unfortunately he has turned me down and said he would not do my revision as he feels I've had too many surgeries in such a short amount of time. He highly suggests not touching it for 3 years to allow it to fully heal."
"For those who have had a rhinoplasty and there are small things you don't like.. Read my review top to bottom! I wish I didn't through with the next two rhinoplastys from the same surgeon. I should have just been content with the outcome of my nose instead of being a perfectionist. The more times you go in there and mess with it, the more chance you have of damaging it beyond repair."
November 18, 2016
Dr Grigoryants turns down revisions because he is not skilled in doing revisions. That reflects his skill not the possibility of a revision
November 19, 2016
Yes, but he still recommended she wait 3 years before having another surgery.
November 17, 2016
Your nose looks great and very natural. Like I said before, this was a revision, meaning it's going to take twice as long to heal (around 1.5-2 yrs). Seven months is not enough time; you're just going to have to wait it out. I know it's tough but your tip will be the last thing to de-swell. It's very obvious to me that your tip is still swollen. Try to stop focusing on it and let your body do what it needs to!
November 19, 2016
What is it exactly that makes you still unhappy about your nose if you don't mind me asking?
November 25, 2016
The front asymmetry, the tip is still big and entire nose still long..... so unhappy and regretting going to Dr D, he's not the best at revisions as I had hoped.
UPDATED FROM sallyannelewis
7 months post
Still very disappointed
sallyannelewisNovember 10, 2016
I know I need to be patient, and I thank everyone for the kind words and encouragement, but everyday I grow more annoyed at the results of this revision.... I really wanted a much shorter nose, the one we (Dr. D and I) agreed upon in multiple conversations... I didn't want to have to consider a 3rd operation, I just wanted him to deliver the results we discussed. I feel he delivered on some things, but the ones I stressed the most (length and projection) were never fully addressed. What's worse,I can feel that some of the cartilages on my left side are very prominent, which makes it so the tip of my nose feels like it's leaning towards the left. So this not only feels strange, it makes my nose more asymmetrical, one nostril bigger than the other. And because my nose is still longer than ideal, when I smile my nose appears more noticeably leaning towards the left. As swelling continues to come down I am able to notice the visible imperfections of the tip that I feel did not get addressed. Am I still unhappy with the results? Absolutely.... every time I look in the mirror I wish that I could do this all over, and over stress to Dr. D all these obvious issues that I wished he had addressed the first time. Especially, knowing the ordeal I went through with my primary, he knows how long I waited to have this procedure..... i wish he could've done more.
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November 10, 2016
When you feel comfortable will you think about posting more photos so we can get a better view. All I have to say is that, no matter what anyone says , it's about what you asked for and your unhappiness . I hope you can get this all resolved soon with whatever decision you make . All the best xo
November 10, 2016
Agreed. It would be very helpful to see some pics also where you're smiling for example, with a group, more zoomed out. Not discrediting your concerns at all, but it's so unnatural for us to take these selfies 2 inches from our faces, very hard to get a realistic persecutive and it's rarely flattering for anyone, even people with perfect noses! Also, I feel like most issues become more apparent when smiling. Still think you look beautiful :)
November 17, 2016
Thank you!! Btw.... how is the healing coming along?? Everything go ok with Dr Glasgold? Dying to hear how you're doing and what you think of the revision.
November 11, 2016
Aren't you and I in the same boat... wow. The thought of a 3rd surgery is scary. I hope you can get things worked out to where you feel satisfied. If you do undergo a tertiary surgery, are you planning to stick with the same surgeon?
November 17, 2016
Thank you for your post, and I'm so sorry to hear you're dealing with the same. I'm not confident that Dr. D has the ability to fix my concerns... so much in fact that I am willing to spend the $$ to go to someone else. I just can't do another bad result again... he helped *some* but I still am very unhappy with results, and think he was too conservative... my nose is still way bigger than he and I agreed to preoperativelu. I regret my choice of doctor for the revision, and I think I should have gone with Dr Robert Glasgold... and I am still strongly consider revision after the 18 months waiting period is over. :(. Are you strongly considering revision, as well? And if so, who are you considering??
November 17, 2016
I can see now why you are not happy, but still it looks like a natural nose. Would it be possible to post a before photo with the original nose and after the primary rhinoplasty? :)
November 17, 2016
I also had asymmetry during my healing process that mostly resolved itself. I know it's hard to hear but you've got to give it time.
I know you are disappointed in your nasal appearance, but please do not lose heart. You are pretty and your nose does look very natural. There are atleast a few subtle changes that are improvements from you nose prior to revision. I know that sounds like some consolation and it's not likely to help with how your feeling right now, but I was just bringing up the bright side in a consolation effort.
My original surgeon totally mislead/lied to me pre op and post op so I know how it feels. It seems they do this as a lack of empathy and grave concern over litigation. Atleast in my case. This behavior would by the driving force for litigation. It would be so much better to be treated like a damn human being. For surgeons to see the human first and foremost and say "I'm really sorry this didn't turn out well. Here is what is wrong with your nose and I think this is how it happened. Then it would be ethical to offer a full refund at a minimum and gentlemanly to offer to cover whatever additional costs you incur for revision f the doctor can't garauntee he can fix it for free! The answer certainly is t to blame it in swelling, need for tape, nasal massage, or something I recently heard your camera. It certainly isn't helpful to anyone to avoid the issue either.
Since it's only been a few days I'm going to hope Denenberg is on vacation, dealing with a family emergency, at a conference, etc. Please let me know what your outcome is.
Keep your chin-up. Your a pretty girl no matter what and you seem to have a big heart. You're going to overcome this and have peace and happiness. I wish you the best.