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25 Years Old, 1 Child, Working Full Time, Student Part Time. Overbite and Overlapping Front Teeth, over jet- Omaha, NE

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My parents always told me I had a beautiful white...

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Shan44
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My parents always told me I had a beautiful white healthy smile so even though I begged for braces in high school they felt it was unnecessary and wasted money. I beg to differ. I've been saving up for a really long time and I'm finally able to afford it. I have a set of 58 TRAYS!!! Top and bottom! Ugh! But I was told this orthodontist is a perfectionist so even though this will take 2 years I trust him. My smile has always greatly affected my life. I hate pictures especially! I'm on my first set of trays and figure I'll repost every 3 months so you can hopefully ???? see a difference. So far I've had a few issues 2 of my total 11 attachments have already fallen off in the first 2 days. I waited 12 hours after they were first put on before I wore my first set of trays so i already need to go back in to get them fixed. But here it goes. Hoping 2 years goes by successfully

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September 15, 2014
Hello, and welcome to our Invisalign community!  I hate to immediately ask for favors, but could you give us a few more angles on your teeth?  Whenever you have the time?  The frontal shots don't show your issues adequately, I don't think, cause your teeth don't look that bad, and certainly not 58 trays' worth!  Also, in your first picture, I can't even see an overbite (and you can never see them with the jaw open :).)  Those of us who will be following your journey would love to get a more-complete picture of your start state.

I know we have a couple of others with lots of trays like you--harpurp got 56 trays, for example.  But I'm wondering if your doctor was explicit about what was the most difficult to fix.  And also, did you get a ClinCheck?  Your price was great though, especially for such a long treatment!  Are retainers included?
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September 15, 2014
I can for sure throw in some better angles:) yes the price included all the trays, doctors visits, retainers at the end plus cosmetics so any teeth I need shaped or gums evened out at the end of it
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September 15, 2014
I'm also getting my attachments that fell reattached tomorrow morning, I'll ask the dr why 58 trays and what's most complicated to fix.
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September 15, 2014
That's a great deal, with all the cosmetic stuff at the end!  I look forward to hearing what the doctor has to say.

And thanks for the extra pics!  That makes a huge difference.  Now I think I can see both an overbite and an overjet (which isn't that unusual, of course, but I could see neither before.)  Your bottom teeth look relatively good, though--just a little crowding.  I'm wondering whether the doctor is planning on expanding the entire lower arch--cause that would take time.
September 20, 2014
I am on tray 8 of 52. I have an overbite also. The first 30 trays are basically moving my teeth back one at a time (sequential distalization). I wear elastics to prevent flaring if the anterior teeth during this process. Once the overbite is corrected and space created, the front teeth will straiten out in the last 20 trays. So basically, visibly, not much will happen for me until tray 30!
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September 20, 2014
Oh wow, Ontariogal, that is rough!  For a lot of us, seeing the results is what keeps us going.  Do you have a review so we can follow you?
September 20, 2014
Haha no review for me yet. It would be a pretty lame read at this point! I will start a review at the half-way mark when I can actually show some change tray to tray.
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September 20, 2014
Make sure you get some early before  pics and ones as you go!  I totally regretted not starting my review when I started :(.  Now I have no record of the changes.
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September 20, 2014
Yes! That's exactly what they told me. I get elastics (rubber bands) put on, on the 5th set of trays and my treys are as well moving my molars back one by one! Going to have some pretty unattractive gaps in the back for awhile! Curious to see how yours will turn out as well:)
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September 21, 2014
@Shan44, do you know whether there'll be cut-outs in your trays for the elastics, or whether they'll be on a button that is attached to your teeth (they're usually metal).
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September 21, 2014
They said there will be tiny hooks on both the top and bottom trays close to my back molars since I have to be able to remove them myself when I eat. That appointment will be first week of November. All my attachments are on my eye teeth(canines) and the teeth right behind those. I have 5 attachments on top and 6 on bottom. The bands will not be on the attachments but hooks already on the trays I guess.
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September 21, 2014
Yeah, when it's on the trays, there are cut-outs on the trays.  I wish I could remember which of our Invisaligners had them like that.  Here is a picture that I got from Invisalign's educational site.  

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The one on the left is what the elastic hooks onto directly.  The one on the right is if they attach a button to your tooth--the cutout makes room for the button.  Sometimes they do one of each.  There are varying shapes, but that's the general idea :).
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November 9, 2014
So those hooks on the top aligners from putting on and taking off the rubber bands eventually start to pull the hook outwards I had to cut and file the point down because it was just tearing up my upper lip. But since then it's been fine. And every time you take the bands out you have to put new ones in!
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November 9, 2014
Oh and I have hooks cut out on top but the metal attachments on the bottom
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November 10, 2014
I'd like to see a pic of that modification you made.  It sounds truly awful, how it was sticking out!
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November 11, 2014
Your teeth are Hollywood white! They're gonna be gorgeous after this process!
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November 11, 2014
Hey thanks! Now only if they would stay that way! I was a crest white strip user before and I'm not allowed to use them anymore with the attachments being on. Depending on how much my ortho charges I'll probably get them whited again when I'm done with Invisalign. The most affordable way are the strips I'm proof they work amazing right?!
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November 24, 2014
I actually use a kit I got from Walmart for less than $10! It's called Plus White 5 minute. It's a gel you put in your slingers and then rinse out after 5-10 mins and it works well! And no sensitivity which is a huge factor for me. Others have raved about it so I gave it a try
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November 17, 2014
I posted the modifications on my page. I think every time I applied the rubber bands to the top hook first and then attached it to the bottom, with Invisalign being flexible and the hook being so small it gradually just pulled the hook outward. Few weeks in now then I don't have any problems with it at all. Can't even tell the rubber bands or trays are in my mouth anymore.
July 7, 2016
That's exactly the kind of trays I have. I am 8 days into Tray 10 at the moment, which is my first tray with elastics. The metal attachment on my right rear molar (which is a crown, by the way), cuts into my cheek, and I have to stick a cotton ball in there. Eating is really hard. I think that the cutouts on the tray over the canines are beginning to stretch a bit as you suggested, but they don't hurt much yet. Until I got the elastics, I would just snip that little cutout off and file it down, so this is a big change.
UPDATED FROM Shan44
12 days post

A few better angles still on first set of trays

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UPDATED FROM Shan44
2 months post

2 months in just started 5th tray!!

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From the front view there is little to no difference. I'm updating right now because as of 11/5/14 I just started wearing rubber bands to fix my over bite. They told me originally it would take about a year before I would see the crowding in the front start to straighten out because they are moving my molars farther back in my mouth one by one. My Dr said my teeth are moving so well though that instead of having to wear my trays 2 weeks at a time I now only have to wear them for one week at a time!! Which cuts my original treatment in half!!! Only down part is that my mouth is going to be constantly sore. Beauty is pain though right!! You can see that my back right(back left in the picture) molar had moved quite a bit from the others. Excited to see some change even if it's not a lot! Hope to see some changes within the next 3-6 months!

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November 9, 2014
Wow!  Now you're the second person I've seen who was recommended to go down to a 1-week wear-time.  This was highly unorthodox before, and very controversial.  I wonder if some new research has come out from Invisalign making this possible!  The other person doing this is suefox, and you can see her review here.  I'm going to send her your way as well.
November 11, 2014
my ortho told me that in Japan, they issue abt 100 trays(!) which patients change sooner than 2 weeks. the movements for each tray is made really small so they can control them to perfection. I wonder if this is the approach taken by shan44's ortho? 58 trays does sound like a lot considering that her crowding isn't severe...just a guess!
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November 11, 2014
I was thinking that too! Posted the same idea on suefox's page! That would be my best guess since I typically don't hear people going past a year. I'll ask my ortho how much my teeth are moving with each tray. That theory could be correct!
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November 11, 2014
I definitely have heard before about some doctors doubling the number of trays and making faster changes.  Makes for cleaner trays for sure :).  I am really curious what Invisalign thinks of this practice and whether they've tested it this way.  I can imagine they have.
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November 11, 2014
I haven't heard of it and it makes me worry about tooth resorption but I trust my orthodontist. I mean he even has that iTero machine to do the molds now instead of the nasty goop they use originally. It's pretty cool and so far has been an easy process.
November 11, 2014
wow lucky you for being able to cut down your wear time!