28 y/o female- invisalign treatment with acceledent

December 28, 2013

Congratulations on starting this for you! As an adult, you have a much better chance at actually complying, and wearing your retainer afterward to maintain your results for the rest of your life! I've seen a couple of other people in Australia talk about Acceledent. Here are links to their reviews:

Sounds Promising! - Australia

and this one:

Long Process About to Start - Cairns, Australia

In one of them there were a bunch of people trying to buy the used Acceledent, so there are a lot of deleted comments, but there is still some stuff left to read. :)

As for the 2 hours/day to fit in everything--yeah, that takes some getting used to and scheduling. My doctor gave us 4 hours/day, but my treatment time was shorter. I wonder what their criteria are for those sorts of things.

I look forward to following your journey! Thank you for starting to share it with us :)

December 30, 2013

Thank you for the positive reinforcement and the links. I think I am definately going to get acceledent, the thought of half the time makes me swoon! Can I ask you a question? If you look at my clincheck photo, my top left wisdom tooth looks like its only half as my teeth were scanned instead of molds taken and as invisalign make my trays based on this scan. However I have my wisdom tooth fully out but my tray just on that side only covers half the tooth (as per pic) I did phone my surgery to ask about this and they said its fine, but I am concerned that this could affect my overall treatment as that tooth is not properly supported. What is your opinion? Thanks

December 30, 2013

your wisdom tooth have no impact what so ever on your treatment hence why you can have invisalign with or without your wisdom teeth.

December 30, 2013

Thanks for that. Wasn't sure if the surgery was just saying that because they didn't want to have to scan teeth, get new trays etc. you have helped to put my mind at ease.

December 30, 2013

SnowyT is right :). For most people, even the back molars don't make a difference and they are regularly cut out of some people's trays. I have two wisdom teeth out, both impacted and neither out completely. It made no difference in treatment. And when I have the surgery to get them removed, they say it won't affect my result. The one thing that can make a difference is if you get them in and there isn't room for them, and they push all of your other teeth forward. Then they have to take them out.

UPDATED FROM NadineIliana

2 days post

1st trays update

NadineIlianaDecember 30, 2013

I just thought I would update on what I've found so far.. I am clenching my teeth at night and this makes me back teeth sore in the morning, does anyone else do this since getting their trays? I have been really lucky, my speech is fine (so far). Definately going to speak to my ortho about exceledent, I'm too impatient! I've now had my trays in for nearly two weeks and biting toast is still a bit sore. It's really important to clean the trays, I do this at least twice a day with vinegar and water. Biggest con- I can't wear lipstick as it gets in my trays, and I love my bright colours! All in all though I am happy with my decision and actually am looking forward to getting my attachments and bands as this means stuff will happen quicker.

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December 30, 2013

Hi NadineIliana, weird to see other people from Australia on this site let alone people from the same dental clinic as you ha ha , i am also undergoing treatment from Dr Duncan and i completely agree with you , i didn't meet him until my 4th appointment which i was very annoyed about, i also chose him as he was an elite provider but now after only meeting him once after about 6 appoinments i began to realize that he is only an elite provider because the clinic sees so many patients , i now wish i had just chosen a ortho that does invisalign so they can focus more on the single patients and not get handed around to a whole bunch of different people. I have been in treatment for 6 months now and also have 17 attachments you will hardly notice them , i cant tell you about acceledent as i have not used it but hopefully it works out for you.

December 30, 2013

Yes adelaide is a small place! haha! I spoke to a few people that had gone through them and they were really happy. it was more expensive through there though. Can I ask did you get your clincheck video emailed to you? I had to ask to see mine at my appointment where I got my first two trays and asked for it and still haven't received it..grrr!

December 30, 2013

Yes, i got an email to download the clincheck video, it was nothing like the ones i've seen on here just a fast 15sec video quickly going through the changes of my teeth. Yeah i payed the same amount as you plus the $300 that i will need to pay for the bonded wire at the end.

December 30, 2013

I have a feeling everyone pays the same through there. I'm gonna ask again for my clincheck video but that's a bit disappointing that you only got to see a short one.

Fionacc99

January 26, 2014

woow! Small city indeed!! I havent seen Dr Duncan at all. But have been told at first Appt that he is only supervising cases now . Im still on my first tray and Ill get my 8 attachment in Week 4 . Vedio sent trough via email the day after i got my first tray etc . Ive got so annoyed while they filing my teeth in between, worried about gaps between my teeth, brrr... Apart from that, so far so good. I use mouth washer to brush my aligners everynight .

March 17, 2014

Hi! Don't know how I missed this! It's good that you were told dr duncan is only supervising. I didn't get told that. I met him at my second appointment after my consultation and I am due to see him next month after tray 8. Have you seen the other ortho there then? I found his bedside manner to be quite abrupt! It's kinda annoying that we pay all that money for dr duncan but only see him once in a blue moon! I do hope he oversees everything though because I want the best results and that's why I went to him. How is your treatment going so far?

March 18, 2014

Yeah amen to that , seen him twice.. looked at my teeth once and have had a handful of other "dental hygienists" looking at my mouth , and have seen Dr Burki once (terrible breath haha)

December 30, 2013

I also started clenching once I started my Invisalign treatment. I did not do it prior. I did/do it so much that it pushes my back teeth into my jaws, and when I take the trays out, I have a posterior open bite. This means I can't chew food with my molars. And it's worsened my TMJ. It's a big deal. But I was kind of okay after my aligner series. I think I only had 18 or so. Now I've just been in retainers for over a year on top of that, so it's been worsening. I am going in to hopefully be fitted for a Hawley retainer so I'll stop clenching, but if you can get out of the habit, that would definitely be to your advantage. Maybe use chewies to put the trays in snugly, then try to only bite with those and not clench the rest of the time. It's a terrible habit.

I can say that for me, at least, the teeth come back out over the course of the day. That was not the case in aligners because 20 minutes is not long enough--so chewing was really difficult throughout the entire treatment.

UPDATED FROM NadineIliana

6 days post

2nd trays first day

NadineIlianaJanuary 3, 2014

Last night I put in my 2nd trays which weren't too painful except for the sharp edges which i filed down,but still I popped a couple of nurofen and went to bed.

I also compared the discoloration of my last trays to the new ones and although they didn't seem too bad, when side by side I could see the difference. I think I'm going to try retainer brite (off amazon) and maybe get a cheap sonic cleaner as I want to keep them as sparkly and hygenic as I can.

Still really struggling with wearing them 22/24 hours a day. I am a big eater who enjoys food and a good chat over meals and am a very thorough brusher and flosser (this alone can take me bout 20 mins!) and even though I go fast as I can, I always end up leaving them out for too long which makes me worry that I'm going to take even longer with my treatment time. Also find at times I try not to have any snacks as I can't be bothered doing the whole routine for a quick cup of tea.

I also emailed my orthodontic surgery to ask about the cost of acceledent (which I have yet to hear back from) and finally received my clincheck video, however like snowyT it is only a short, quick view which makes it difficult to tell which teeth are going to start shifting first.

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January 3, 2014

Are you managing to keep the trays in a full 20 hours/day?

January 3, 2014

Definately, even maybe 21 but I was told to keep them in 22 hours and because I've just started I'm worried its not enough..

January 3, 2014

I find wearing the trays 22 hours a day gets easier , i can have brekky,lunch and dinner and possibly a snack all under the 2 hours , just use some good time management and watch the clock and you should be fine, try to get the most wear out of them as you don't want a mid course correction that's for sure!

January 3, 2014

Do you brush and floss after every meal?

January 3, 2014

breakfast and dinner yes , lunch no unless im at home but im usually out to lunch or on the run, so chew on sugar free gum for a bit then rinse and put the trays back in.

January 4, 2014

Yeah, my ortho told me between 20 and 22 hours/day. But I also had Invisalign Teen, so she was able to gauge my compliance. If the doctor tells someone 22 hours/day, then if they slip, they are likely to be within the time period. If they tell them 20 hours, then they're likely to dip under that. With Teen, it's obvious if you're dipping under, because the indicators don't go clear. So there's no slippery slope. On the other hand, I don't know if maybe some people have more stubborn teeth or more severe problems that require that extra two hours of wear. I definitely didn't have time to brush and floss after 3 meals/day, so I started cutting out meals, but as long as your trays continue to fit as they should, and moving to the next tray isn't getting more painful, you are doing fine. If you work on the time management, though, you will improve--just as SnowyT says. :)

item365

January 3, 2014

Hi, I'm on tray one and also love eating and talking and I feel I'm going to loose so much weight, as I'm not eating much at all.. Oh boy the first tray are so sore on my lower teeth and gums.. I'm also trying to find out more about the acceledent machine.. If it really works ? How do you buy the mouth pieces as I might buy a 2nd hand one. I have been using bonjela to help with some of the slight pain I have with my gums and lower lips rubbing on the plate. I'm keen to see if my dentist can send me the videos and pictures as I would like to post up here.. Thanks for the post keen to talk more as we are just around the same time I'm on tray two very soon..

January 3, 2014

Hi and congrats on your invisalign journey. How many trays is your treatment? Will you need attachments etc. exciting to find someone else who is just starting out. As for the eating.. I hear you! I am quite slim naturally (which I hate) and I too am worried about losing weight. I get bands and attachments in 3 weeks and I am a massive talker and I'm feeling like I won't even want to open my mouth! As for the pain.. Use the chewies A LOT the first few days I found it helped with the pain, and make sure to file down any sharp bits, this won't change the shape of the tray but will make them a lot more comfortable and they wont cut up your mouth, i filed mine last night and again today coz i could fewl that my top lip was going to get cut if i didnt. Also change your next tray at night before bed and take a couple of pain killers. I did this last night and I've had hardly any pain today. Acceledent- I've read that because it it a class 2 orthodontic equipment device it is not allowed to be resold, trays are molded to the individual again needs to be done by an ortho. I've heard that it does work for most people, it depends on the condition but expected to shorten treatment by 30-50% which is good enough for me. I will update any new information I hear about it but for now I'm just waiting to find out how much it will be through my ortho. I look forward to following your journey and feel free to ask me any questions (no matter how silly you think they may be) I'm new at this too but will help if I can.

item365

January 3, 2014

Thanks for your reply.. I have 37 trays in total and have attachments from day 1 =:) I hear you re talking and food.. I talk so much and I'm so sore it's getting less and less.. I'm sure my friends will say something soon. I will look into chewies thank you.. Where did you buy them from ? Thanks for the tip on the tray I will do this the night before now.. Pain killers are a must for the first 2 days I think well for tray one it was for me.. Acceledent very interesting it can not be resold... as they are so expensive I thought i might be able to get a 2nd hand one and just get a tray made. Thanks for helping and good to find a friend on here starting out as well. I hope to get some pics next time I do go the dentist in a few weeks for now it's all an experience and will be once I'm back at work on monday as well to see how I go.. great to meet you and keep in touch...