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Regretting Cover-up Tattoo. Treatment with Picoway laser - Oslo, Norway

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Some years ago I got a tattoo on my lower leg in...

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Some years ago I got a tattoo on my lower leg in memory of my grandfather after his death (a knife blade - he was a knife smith and he also taught me to make knives.) but it did not turn out very well. Since then I`ve tried to fix it many times (including getting another tattoo of a knife blade over the old one as suggested by a tattoo-artist. Stupid I know, but I was really desperate. Totally regretting it now) until last fall I decided to get a cover-up. By then I was pretty desperate and just wanted a nice tattoo and be able to use skirts and shorts. I asked the tattoo-artist what kind of motive would work best, but he said I could choose whatever I wanted and he would make it work. So I did. I use a picture of a beatiful watercolor tattoo as an example, saying I wanted something like that. He said it would be very easy to do it. Turns out we had different expectations and I`m not pleased with the end result.

I`m now too ashamed of the tattoo to use shorts or skirts. I feel everybody is looking at it and judging me because of it. Through the last 4-5 years and my many attempts to fix it, there have been so many emotions attached to it. It began as a way to remember my grandfather and now I just feel I`ve destroyed the skin on my leg forever. I`ve been so depressed and shed many tears over this. It`s almost constantly on my mind and is definitely affecting my daily life. My family must be sick hearing about it by know. Sometimes I just want to trow up thinking about it.

I just don`t know what to do. Should I try and get it faded with a laser and have the cover-up redone by someone else? I know it will probably mean several years of summers in long jeans, a lot of pain and money, but I feel like I`m at the bottom of a deep, black pit right now. I`m also scared that my many attempts to fix it have made it more difficult to remove it now. There`s many layers of ink there by now. But the thought of having that thing on by leg for the rest of my life just makes me depressed and sick. I`m also scared of scarring, but right now I`d rather have a big scar there than the tattoo. What should I do? Is it possible to remove it or fade it (or parts of it) at all?

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July 5, 2015
From what I've seen, people have good results removing these colours with the picolaser. I'm no expert but I think a drastic fade would be possible at least if you're patient.
July 5, 2015
Thanks. But I`ve read that picosure doesn`t work well on red ink? I have the choice between picosure or medlight where I live so I`m going to book a consultation with both and hear what they have to say.
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July 5, 2015

Welcome to the community, thank you for joining us and sharing your personal story-- I am most certain you will find lots of support here, as many of us relate to your situation, including myself. I never thought it would be possible to fade my huge dark black tattoo, but after 9 laser removal session I did, and I now have a cover up that I am happy with. In the beginning it seems impossible, and the enormous suffering that regret brings upon us makes it very difficult to see the potential. I often reflect back to the beginning of my journey when I read a new story, the feeling that you describe very well, as being at the "bottom of a deep black pit", the lack of appetite, the sleepless nights, the endless walks trying to sort out my thoughts..."if only I did this" "why didn't I wait" and so on, the lack of confidence, the feeling of disconnect from my body, and the sheer desperation of just wanting the darn tattoo gone and longing for my normal life back before the horrid tattoo took it over. I, and all of us going through this get it. Regret is a very hard thing to overcome, and those negative thoughts that perpetually cycle through our minds are hard to stop....but I assure you that in time you will get past this, it just takes a little self compassion, forgiveness, acceptance...then you will begin to let go and move forward. Once you sort through the emotional turmoil this causes...take a step back and begin to put things into perspective, you begin to see things clearer and you start to work towards a solution at a pace that is right for you. You slow down, you stop judging yourself, and you logically work through this problem just as you would any other challenge you encounter in life—because let's face it...nothing in life is perfect and without challenges, and if it was....wouldn't that make for a boring life? Before my experience with tattoo regret, the term "what doesn't kill us makes us stronger" didn't have much meaning, but now...it does! Life challenges are really life lessons, an opportunity to grow...now, by seeing this as an opportunity, I am not asking you to put on rose-colored glasses, but rather asking you to draw on your internal reserve and choose to take a step forward and see that in the grand scheme of things it's only a tattoo, and as much as you think people are judging you, they probably aren't...sometimes this is difficult to put into words, as I don't want to make light of your situation, but I want to express to you that ultimately you will get past this, and this event becomes a building block of your life. I won't go on, because I tend to ramble :) I thought you may find this information helpful, as you are correct -- PicoSure may not be the best choice for red ink, here is an FAQ that speaks to that, which also offers some good information on what may work. However, PicoSure has a new attachment, what is referred to as a boost, check out this review -- they are getting good results on their red ink with it.  

I wish you all the best, and I hope that you find lots of support and comfort here -- keep us posted. 

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July 5, 2015

Me again...I remember watching this as I sat on my bed sulking in misery - it really made me feel better...Tattoo Regret: Kathryn Schulz Shares Her Story of Tattoo Regret - Video

And one more thing...check out this review, I love how this person puts the fear of judgment into perspective: My Year with PicoSure: Un-sugarcoated. Buffalo, NY

And for what it's worth, I don't think your tattoo looks bad at all, and I had no idea it was a cover up. Take care :) 

July 6, 2015
Thank you for your kind words :) I`ve been lurking here for a long time fining a lot of comfort in the fact that there are others out there who are going through or have gone through the same thing and come out okay in the other end. My mother said much the same thing as you. That in the grand scheme of things there are a lot worse choices I could have made than making a mess of my tattoo. It is a minor thing after all. It`s just that it tends to distort the world around it and sucking all light and enjoyment of life into a big black hole. You are right, life is not perfect and we all make mistakes and hopefully come out stronger on the other side (now try telling my thoughts that :P ) But as you say, it`s the feeling that people are judging you, that "Yes, of course you are allowed to make mistakes, but not that kind of stupid mistakes. Not one that`s so visible and easy to ridicule and makes them think less of you" (not that I think anyone would actually do that, but the feeling is still there.) I try to take one day of a time. Right now I`m feeling okay, but I know from experience that that can change very quickly. Sometimes all it takes i a look or a comment and I`m down that black bottomless pit again. I try to tell myself that it`s not the worst thing I could have done, but that at the same time I`m allowed to feel this miserable. It`s okay to feel this way. I guess I try to accept it? Embrace the pain or something? Basically ride it out. Feel it and get through it/done with it so I can move on.

Sorry, guess I tend to ramble on as well :) Anyway thank you so much for your comment. It really means a lot to me.
July 10, 2015
i like your tatoo; it looks cool
July 12, 2015
Thanks! :P You`re one of the few. My friend once said "I`ve seen better tattoos, but I`ve also seen worse". And I kinda agree with her. I feel the middle part is just to dense and "heavy" to work.
January 20, 2016
What did you decide? My suggestion is to find a reputable tattoo artist. Not someone who knows how to tattoo. You need someone who can expand on your vision. It may cost a few dollars but your happiness is with it.
February 28, 2016
Hi. Sorry for the late reply. I`ve decided to not go for a cover-up. I know I might not be able to remove completely with laser, but I feel I just can`t risk another cover-up. I mean, what if that one doesn`t turn out well either? Then I`ll be in an even worse situation than now.
February 2, 2016
February 2, 2016
Is there a point to your comment? Or are you just trying to be mean?

Many of the people who post here do so because they are at a dark place right now. Please don`t make it worst. Lucky I`m at a better place mentally than what I was when I first posted this, but if I had read you comment then. Well, let`s just say it wouldn't have helped.... I hope this sort of comments helps you i some way because it certainly doesn`t help any others.
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March 31, 2018
What did he comment?
UPDATED FROM Eci

Booked consultations

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I have now booked an appointment for consultations with two clinics just to hear what they have to say. One which uses the Medlight C6 and one who uses Picosure. I`ve learnt my lesson and are examining all possibilities before making a choice! The one who uses Picosure is the only one in my country and is only a year or so old. As far as I`ve been able to find out the people who have tried it at the clinic all have ended up with over twice the number of treatments they were told they would need when they started. The clinic that uses the Medlight have a max price based on size, colors, difficulty, etc. You pay per treatment, but if the number of treatments exceeds the max price, you get the rest of the treatments for free. Which is a comfort economy wise. I have also heard nothing but good things about them when it comes to removing tattoos. And then there is the whole red ink thing with Picosure. The Picosure clinic has something similar to the max price on the other clinic, only they offer free treatments for 6 months after reaching the max price (which would probably only mean 1-2 free treatments since you have to have a rest period between each session?). Anyway, I`ll be talking to both of them and seeing what they have to say.

I hope to be able to remove or at least fade a lot of the darkest, densest middle part (the one of the cover-up) of my tattoo and have it redone (though I really, really don`t want to step foot inside another tattoo-studio again... too many bad feelings). The upper an lower part are okay and something I can live with.

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July 7, 2015

Oh good, glad you're going to multiple places to see what your options are. I thought you might find this information helpful to prepare for your consultations: PicoSure: 7 Consultation Questions You Should Ask

July 8, 2015
Thanks for the links! :)
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July 9, 2015

You're most welcome - how are you doing?

July 12, 2015
I`m okay for now. Kinda trying to ignore the whole thing and concentrate on other things. But I think that`s only pushing the problem before me to deal with at a later time. I`ve also been in contact with some tattoo places and are going in later in august to have a chat with them about what can be done. Thanks for asking :)
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July 7, 2015
Hi there! It's great that your looking into your options in order to make a wise decision. I know all too well, the feelings of regret that come with a bad tattoo. I was so sick. I couldn't eat, sleep or think about anything else. Fast forward nearly 2 years and although I still have my bad days, it doesn't consume me anymore. I chose not to pursue removal at the moment. Not to say that you shouldn't. It's a personal choice. But , you do need to work on forgiving yourself and accepting what is. You have a tattoo. But, you know what?? It doesn't change who you are. Eva was right when she said that difficult journey will be a learning experience. You will become better for it. You will get to know yourself more. I know it's hard but you will get through it . Good luck at your consultations . Keep us posted. :)
July 8, 2015
Thank you :) It`s definitely a learning experience. That`s for sure! How long did it take before you felt better? I find my mood varies quite a lot. Sometimes, when I manage not to think about it or become "numb" to the thought of my tattoo, I don`t feel so bad. I can distract myself with other things. But it feel like a temporary solution because all it takes is one innocent comment or thought or incident and I can`t sleep and are back to feeling like I want to trow up and not thinking about anything else. I don`t so much hate having a tattoo on my leg as I hate having a badly done tattoo on my leg. For me I guess that`s the part where the shame comes in. How could I have let someone tattoo that on me? Anyway, thanks again for your comment. I`m glad you`ve been able to make peace with your tattoo :) I too hope to be able to do so one day as well.
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August 3, 2015
Thanks for sharing your story I suggest going for whatever makes you happy. It may not always be the easy road, by it's what you ultimately want at the end of the day. Hope all other things are going well with you :) I just started my removal journey and I have a large tattoo in the same location.
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February 14, 2016
Thank you for your kind words :) I wish you good luck with your own journey :)

Sorry, for the late reply. For some reason I didn`t see your comment until now...
September 18, 2015
Hi There... Take the time to read my story. Your tattoo is stunning, you may very well change your mind.
October 1, 2015
Thank you for your kind words! :) I checked out your post and your tattoo is really amazing! I`m glad you`ve made peace with it. I don`t so much hate having a big tattoo (I`m totally okay with that) as much as I`m ashamed of having a badly done tattoo. If you look at it in a mirror from normal eye height, all you see is a big dark blob.
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Think I`m going for Picoway....

Eci
During the last month I`ve been to three consultations at different laser clinics in Oslo. All of the clinics had either a doctor or a nurse operating the laser. And all of them seemed very professional and friendly and answered all of my questions.

The first one I went to was the Oslo Kosmetiske Lasersenter that uses a Medlight laser. One of the things I liked best about this place was that the woman I spoke with said she simply could`t give me an estimate on how many treatments I would need because it varied so much from tattoo to tattoo. It`s nice that they are honest and don`t give you false expectations. All in all it seemed like they had long experience with removing/fading tattoos. The price for the first session was 246 dollars (2000 kr) and then 123 dollars (1000 kr) for each session after that, which is affordable. I could definitively go back there. They did not do a testpatch.

I also had a consultation at the Eraze clinic who have a Picosure laser last Friday (11. september). They are getting the booster for red ink this month. I think the people working there are all nurses. They did a small testpatch and I got a nice, big blister afterwards, but I was told that was normal. The clinic even called me a few days later to hear how the testpatch went! That`s good service :) They took the testpatch on an area in witch there was both red, black, yellow and blue ink. Since they didn`t have the booster yet there was no reaction on the red ink. I got frosting on both the black and blue ink. I`m not sure if I can see any fading on the black ink yet, but I`ll have to wait and see. The blue on the other hand, definitely had a reaction! The blue is a lot more faded. Right now it looks like a horrible bruise though! :P The price for Picosure was around 300 dollars a session (2500 kr) for a tattoo of my size. The price is a bit high, but it would be worth it for good results. However, from reading other reviews here, I have gotten the impression that due to the wavelength it operates on (755), Picosure isn`t really the best for dense, black tattoos.

The third clinic I visited, Remove, uses the new Picoway laser. I visited them yesterday (16. september). They opened a couple of months ago, so they are quite new. I didn`t even know about them until a tattoo artist I was discussing my future cover-up with told me about them. The man I meet with was a doctor (as is the others working there I think, which is comforting to know). He was very nice and professional. He also knew about knew about the realself-site (which none of the other clinics were aware of). The Picoway operates at two diffenternt wavelenght, both 532 for red, orange, yellow and 1064 for black and other colours. They did a small testpatch and I think I can see fading on both the red and black ink (they did not test any blue ink), but I don`t know if that`s just wishful thinking on my part. Is it possible to see fading shortly after a treatment or do you have to wait a few weeks? So far no blisters. The price was quiet high though. For a tattoo of my size it would be about 430 dollars per sessions (3500 kr). However, the had a special offer of 40% off of all treatments paid in september. Which means the price per session will be around 260 dollars instead (2100 kr)! The doctor thought I would need about five sessions to fade it enough for a cover-up and gave me an offer of five sessions at 40% off. Should I need less than that I get a refund for the unused sessions.

I`ve decided I`m going to go for the Picoway at Remove. Yes it is more expensive that the Medlight, but it is said to be the best laser on the market and are suppose to be less harsh on the skin. I know I won`t be able to pay full price for it, so if I want to try it it will have to be now. Hopefully I will only need five sessions.

I`ll post some pictures once the testpatches are healed.

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September 18, 2015

Thanks for your update, I wish you much success. I look forward to seeing your photos.

October 1, 2015
Thank you!
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September 18, 2015
I just want to applaud you for doing your research! You should be proud of yourself for taking this seriously and really digging in to find the best option for you.

I wish you all the best, I'm here rooting for you!
October 1, 2015
thank you! One learns from ones mistakes :P
September 19, 2015
Picoway is new, let me know if it works for you, because picosure work well when tht tech knows the machine ...post picotures! best of luck!
October 1, 2015
Thank you! I`ve not sure how it will work out. With the 40% discount the picoway was cheaper than the picosure so I figured I would try that.

Pictures will be posted soon. The scabbing is starting to fall of now :)
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September 20, 2015
Good luck! We are all here to support you on your journey.
October 1, 2015
Thank you! :)