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Normal Liposuction at 365mc Clinic at Seoul
Hello community,
I decided to give my opinion on the procedure I recently did.
First a little bit about myself, I’m a scientist with expertise on biomedical sciences, skin, fat and similar, so it makes these decisions harder for me because I kind of know all the bad possible outcomes of cosmetic procedures.
Regardless, after years and years (more than 15) trying to improve my belly with lots of exercises (I don’t diet, but my weight is very stable) I finally decided to go for Liposuction in Korea. The reason why I did in Korea is because I live here.
In Korea there are so many options for cosmetic procedures that is super tough to make a choice. My advice on that scenario is: talk with A LOT of doctors and clinics. The budgets can easily vary from 1.5 million won to easily 6 million won for a couple of spots to treat. Also, there are plenty of clinics that charge differently foreigners and local, regardless if you have the national health insurance. In my honest opinion if you are living and working in Korea, speak basic Korean and health the national insurance, there is no reason for being charged differently other than clinics trying to take advantage of you. So that was one of my strongest cutting line.
Finally, I decided to go with the 365mc clinic after discussion with 5 clinics that treat foreigners and local equally.
First impressions:
The clinic/hospital is definitely a “factory” feeling clinic. When you arrive, there are thirteen floors (for the clinic in Seoul) with each one specialized in certain things (reception, consultation, post care, surgery, etc). If you want to have a feeling that you are the super special patient and everyone is there for you, I would say that it is not your type of clinic. However, if you want to experience a place that seems to have optimized everything for the success of specifically the procedure, I think it is a good choice.
Consultation and pre-op:
Most of the consultation is carried out with assistants and the nurses of the hospital. At the beginning this bothered me because I want to talk with THE person that will do the surgery. How can I possibly feel 100% safe and secure if THE person who will do the procedure is not there listening to me? But as I said this is the price of the “factory” like feeling. The doctors are too busy doing their magic on the operation room. So, one things that you will probably get is “Doctors with lots of experience”.
However, to counter the factory-like feeling the girls that are there to assist for translation (my Korean is too basic) are just super kind. I have to mention that Kyumi Kwon and Hyeri Jung give the extra care that unfortunately you can’t get from doctors. They are there to assist with the most various question that you might have. It is really impressive. And believe me, as a scientist I had tons of questions.
The prices seem to be fair; they are very transparent with how they charge. There is the base price and they add based on the size, areas treated, etc. One thing that is very interesting is, if you want to choose a specific doctor there is an extra charge and you must schedule a little bit in advance, they have some doctors that are super specialized and have done over 10.000 procedures. So, in my mind it is quite reassuring and I prefer to pay the difference, as far as I know it is just 10% more for this service. I chose the doctor Dae-Gyeom Kim who is the vice director of the hospital and has over 10k procedures. I gladly pay the difference because if I’m not talking fully with the doctor I rather have the most experienced person working on me, experience must count for something, right?
Also, you have a pre-consultation with a random doctor to assess the amount of fat that you can remove safely, most of the fat that the doctors work is on the deep layers of the subcutaneous fat, meaning that they won’t be working on the superficial layer just close to the dermis. There are advantages and disadvantages of that. The good point is that decrease the chances of irregularities and trauma to the skin (necrosis, etc.). The bad point is, if your expectations are really that high to remove the maximum amount of fat, this procedure will fall short.
The day:
I arrived as scheduled, I had a fast talk with the translator and I was introduced to the male nurse which was assisting the operation. Really reassuring guy, unfortunately I forgot his name.
After a small consultation with the doctor to talk about that areas, I’m pretty sure the doctors can understand English because I could understand some of his Korean, but I’m not quite sure why they don’t talk with you directly, again, the patient-doctor relation is very unpersonal. If there is anything major you should let your doctor know that is the time to spit it all out. From the expectation to anything that you might be experiencing lately and you think it might affect your safety or results.
The procedure:
Honestly, you feel nothing. Get inside the room after some sterilization, get covered in a solution that is supposed to keep you sterile. The sterile procedures are very professional, I know because I worked in laboratories that need extreme level of “cleanness”. You take a shot from the anesthesiologist, few seconds before sleeping you see your surgeon and boom, you wake up at your bed with the compression garment.
Just after the procedure:
It feels like a train run over you; I honestly can’t imagine how people go to work on the next day. On the top of that you can get pretty swollen because of all the fluid is injected in you. And yes, the fluid spread everywhere to the closest regions of your body. I was NOT expecting that, I was advised that it could have some, but maaaan… it is a lot. I won’t post a photo but having the liquid from your lower abdomen going to the scrotum and penis and making it 3 times the size it is freaking scary. Almost went to ER because of how much scared I was. I met the doctor again to make sure this was normal and he was very confident it was normal, around 2 to 3 days after the sizes goes back to normal and 10 days after the bruising from these side regions fade.
Post-care and post-surgery:
From a scale to 1 to 10 I felt like 2 as pain. I only felt pain when I sneezed (peaks to 7) or when I was bending to put my shoes (peaks to 5). However, I was following medication, light diet and mild exercises religiously.
If you are planning to this procedure at 365mc and you don’t live in Korea I recommend staying at least 2 to 3 weeks in the country. The reason is that they offer and extensively FREE post-care treatment that lasts at least 6 weeks. But 6 weeks vacations are not doable for anyone, just talk with people about your schedule and try to enjoy the most of it, it should help the results and the recovery. Also, the nurses that helps with post-care are super kind and human. A special thanks to Boram Choi, what a lovely girl, even though she spoke very little English you can feel the dedication and care.
Impressions after the surgery and final comments (for the moment):
As everything in life there are positive and negative things. I think most of the experience was positive besides the very scary moments and unpersonal relationship with the doctor. The best was the human experience with nurses and translators, 100% sure.
I think it is early to talk about results since I have only 15 days post-surgery but I can see some of the results coming up very clearly, I’m posting one photo 4 days after very relaxed and one photo 10 days after pushing the abs out to see how dramatic it looks.
In my honest opinion, the fat removed seems a little bit lower that I expected, maybe it is related to the technique, maybe to short recovery time, I’m not quite sure yet…
Some scores to make things more tangible (I include overall experience, technique, availability, etc):
Translators: 9 out of 10
Nurses: 10 out of 10
Surgeon: 7 out of 10
Post care doctor: 7 out of 10 (always asking if you want diet pills is kind of annoying to be honest, it is like pushing you to generate more dramatic results through other techniques than the liposuction itself)
Installations and structure of the hospital: 9 out of 10 (some places would benefit of better organization or some renewing)
Post-care treatment: 9 out of 10 (but I just got 2 out of 6)
Costs: 9 out of 10 (not the cheapest but far from the most expensive specially if you can enjoy the post-care)
Overall I would rate a 8 out of 10.
I decided to give my opinion on the procedure I recently did.
First a little bit about myself, I’m a scientist with expertise on biomedical sciences, skin, fat and similar, so it makes these decisions harder for me because I kind of know all the bad possible outcomes of cosmetic procedures.
Regardless, after years and years (more than 15) trying to improve my belly with lots of exercises (I don’t diet, but my weight is very stable) I finally decided to go for Liposuction in Korea. The reason why I did in Korea is because I live here.
In Korea there are so many options for cosmetic procedures that is super tough to make a choice. My advice on that scenario is: talk with A LOT of doctors and clinics. The budgets can easily vary from 1.5 million won to easily 6 million won for a couple of spots to treat. Also, there are plenty of clinics that charge differently foreigners and local, regardless if you have the national health insurance. In my honest opinion if you are living and working in Korea, speak basic Korean and health the national insurance, there is no reason for being charged differently other than clinics trying to take advantage of you. So that was one of my strongest cutting line.
Finally, I decided to go with the 365mc clinic after discussion with 5 clinics that treat foreigners and local equally.
First impressions:
The clinic/hospital is definitely a “factory” feeling clinic. When you arrive, there are thirteen floors (for the clinic in Seoul) with each one specialized in certain things (reception, consultation, post care, surgery, etc). If you want to have a feeling that you are the super special patient and everyone is there for you, I would say that it is not your type of clinic. However, if you want to experience a place that seems to have optimized everything for the success of specifically the procedure, I think it is a good choice.
Consultation and pre-op:
Most of the consultation is carried out with assistants and the nurses of the hospital. At the beginning this bothered me because I want to talk with THE person that will do the surgery. How can I possibly feel 100% safe and secure if THE person who will do the procedure is not there listening to me? But as I said this is the price of the “factory” like feeling. The doctors are too busy doing their magic on the operation room. So, one things that you will probably get is “Doctors with lots of experience”.
However, to counter the factory-like feeling the girls that are there to assist for translation (my Korean is too basic) are just super kind. I have to mention that Kyumi Kwon and Hyeri Jung give the extra care that unfortunately you can’t get from doctors. They are there to assist with the most various question that you might have. It is really impressive. And believe me, as a scientist I had tons of questions.
The prices seem to be fair; they are very transparent with how they charge. There is the base price and they add based on the size, areas treated, etc. One thing that is very interesting is, if you want to choose a specific doctor there is an extra charge and you must schedule a little bit in advance, they have some doctors that are super specialized and have done over 10.000 procedures. So, in my mind it is quite reassuring and I prefer to pay the difference, as far as I know it is just 10% more for this service. I chose the doctor Dae-Gyeom Kim who is the vice director of the hospital and has over 10k procedures. I gladly pay the difference because if I’m not talking fully with the doctor I rather have the most experienced person working on me, experience must count for something, right?
Also, you have a pre-consultation with a random doctor to assess the amount of fat that you can remove safely, most of the fat that the doctors work is on the deep layers of the subcutaneous fat, meaning that they won’t be working on the superficial layer just close to the dermis. There are advantages and disadvantages of that. The good point is that decrease the chances of irregularities and trauma to the skin (necrosis, etc.). The bad point is, if your expectations are really that high to remove the maximum amount of fat, this procedure will fall short.
The day:
I arrived as scheduled, I had a fast talk with the translator and I was introduced to the male nurse which was assisting the operation. Really reassuring guy, unfortunately I forgot his name.
After a small consultation with the doctor to talk about that areas, I’m pretty sure the doctors can understand English because I could understand some of his Korean, but I’m not quite sure why they don’t talk with you directly, again, the patient-doctor relation is very unpersonal. If there is anything major you should let your doctor know that is the time to spit it all out. From the expectation to anything that you might be experiencing lately and you think it might affect your safety or results.
The procedure:
Honestly, you feel nothing. Get inside the room after some sterilization, get covered in a solution that is supposed to keep you sterile. The sterile procedures are very professional, I know because I worked in laboratories that need extreme level of “cleanness”. You take a shot from the anesthesiologist, few seconds before sleeping you see your surgeon and boom, you wake up at your bed with the compression garment.
Just after the procedure:
It feels like a train run over you; I honestly can’t imagine how people go to work on the next day. On the top of that you can get pretty swollen because of all the fluid is injected in you. And yes, the fluid spread everywhere to the closest regions of your body. I was NOT expecting that, I was advised that it could have some, but maaaan… it is a lot. I won’t post a photo but having the liquid from your lower abdomen going to the scrotum and penis and making it 3 times the size it is freaking scary. Almost went to ER because of how much scared I was. I met the doctor again to make sure this was normal and he was very confident it was normal, around 2 to 3 days after the sizes goes back to normal and 10 days after the bruising from these side regions fade.
Post-care and post-surgery:
From a scale to 1 to 10 I felt like 2 as pain. I only felt pain when I sneezed (peaks to 7) or when I was bending to put my shoes (peaks to 5). However, I was following medication, light diet and mild exercises religiously.
If you are planning to this procedure at 365mc and you don’t live in Korea I recommend staying at least 2 to 3 weeks in the country. The reason is that they offer and extensively FREE post-care treatment that lasts at least 6 weeks. But 6 weeks vacations are not doable for anyone, just talk with people about your schedule and try to enjoy the most of it, it should help the results and the recovery. Also, the nurses that helps with post-care are super kind and human. A special thanks to Boram Choi, what a lovely girl, even though she spoke very little English you can feel the dedication and care.
Impressions after the surgery and final comments (for the moment):
As everything in life there are positive and negative things. I think most of the experience was positive besides the very scary moments and unpersonal relationship with the doctor. The best was the human experience with nurses and translators, 100% sure.
I think it is early to talk about results since I have only 15 days post-surgery but I can see some of the results coming up very clearly, I’m posting one photo 4 days after very relaxed and one photo 10 days after pushing the abs out to see how dramatic it looks.
In my honest opinion, the fat removed seems a little bit lower that I expected, maybe it is related to the technique, maybe to short recovery time, I’m not quite sure yet…
Some scores to make things more tangible (I include overall experience, technique, availability, etc):
Translators: 9 out of 10
Nurses: 10 out of 10
Surgeon: 7 out of 10
Post care doctor: 7 out of 10 (always asking if you want diet pills is kind of annoying to be honest, it is like pushing you to generate more dramatic results through other techniques than the liposuction itself)
Installations and structure of the hospital: 9 out of 10 (some places would benefit of better organization or some renewing)
Post-care treatment: 9 out of 10 (but I just got 2 out of 6)
Costs: 9 out of 10 (not the cheapest but far from the most expensive specially if you can enjoy the post-care)
Overall I would rate a 8 out of 10.
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